1 (edited by impatiens 2005-09-03 21:46:03)

Topic: URGENT, please see asap

Please see this.

http://www.electricmac.com/Hannity-Colm … Rivera.mov


This is a broadcast, Friday night (I believe) from Fox News in New Orleans, with Geraldo Rivera and others.


Whatreallyhappened posted this in the letters' section. It's from Fox News.

They're not feeding or helping the people in the Convention Centre. Neither are they evacuating them. AND THEY WON'T LET THEM LEAVE THE CITY even though they're close to the highway which exits, and which is clear and dry.

I know Geraldo's knack for outrageousness. But this is still creepy.

2 (edited by lyra 2005-09-03 23:43:26)

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That is indeed extremely disturbing.  Just hearing what was in the video from montalk who was watching it off to the side while I was doing something else made my stomach tighten up and my nerves stand on end.   I don't even know what to say, this is some serious SERIOUS shite, in a MAJOR way.  It takes the cake out of everything we've heard so far.

Basically for people who haven't seen it and are curious, there was an open bridge next to the Convention Center leading to a town that has electricity and food......................and the military set up a checkpoint and wouldn't allow anybody to cross.  They kept teling everybody to stay inside the convention center, that "help is on the way".................but help never came.  Day after day, they were forced to stay at the convention center instead of leaving through the open bridge to the next town.   



On a related note:

http://www.rense.com/general67/tofeds.htm

It's disturbing as well, as it recaps in the Mayor's own words everything that the gov't and the President did wrong in reacting to this, all the back and forth fiasco he continually went through fighting for every scrap of help he could get, and he lays it all out there, their total ineptitude, even saying that he's going to be in big big trouble later for what he's saying, but he doesn't care.


Three lessons that we can learn from Katrina -- everybody really read this and take note too:

1)  BE PREPARED.   Be prepared for whatever situation could happen to you in the area where you live.  California -- Earthquakes.  The Northwest - earthquakes and Cascade mountain volcano eruptions.   The south/east - Hurricanes, flooding, etc.    The Northeast - severe winters, cold snaps and flooding.  Wherever you live, assess what is the likely thing that could happen and just be on top of things.  Have supplies on hand, know your ways out, and have alternative forms of transportation in mind.

2)  DON'T EXPECT TO BE RESCUED AND CODDLED.   You're going to be on your own.  You have to have the mentality that you need to take care of yourself.   Don't expect that the gov't will take care of us like we're babies, cause they won't, and they proved it with Katrina.   Adapt the survivalist mentality when faced with a situation.   

3)  DON'T LISTEN TO WHAT "THEY" TELL YOU TO DO.   They corralled tens of thousands of people together in the Super Dome and Convention center.......................BIG mistake.   Be the sheep that slips through the cracks and ducks out.   Take care of yourself.  When they're corralling the herd one way, go the other way.  And do what you have to do to slip out.  There were people in New Orleans who made it out of the city through sheer resourcefulness.   People who stole school busses and mail trucks, did what they had to do to get themselves away from that situation.  They didn't just sit there and let themselves be corralled around.  That's the mentality we have to have.   I totally dug the story about the "renegade school bus" that showed up at the Houston Astrodome.   A 20 year old kid behind the wheel of a stolen school bus full of people.   I was grinning when I read that.   Good for him.

EDIT:   The first reports about the "renegade school bus" said it was stolen, and that officials at the Astrodome were a big hmm when it came to what to do with them, and then decided "they could stay";  But when I just looked it up online, the story now is that they were given the school bus by police in New Orleans who told them to round up as many people as they could find and get out there.  Here's the most updated version:

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mp … y2/3334317

"We took the bus and got out of the city. We were trying to get out of the city," James Hickerson said.

Several passengers on the bus said they took the matter into their own hands earlier Wednesday because they felt rescuers and New Orleans authorities were too slow in offering help.

"They are not worried about us," said Makivia Horton, 22, who is five months pregnant."

"took the matter into their own hands" indeed!!!!!!!!  Adopt this mentality!!!!!

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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lyra wrote:

That is indeed extremely disturbing.  Just hearing what was in the video from montalk who was watching it off to the side while I was doing something else made my stomach tighten up and my nerves stand on end.   I don't even know what to say, this is some serious SERIOUS shite, in a MAJOR way.  It takes the cake out of everything we've heard so far.

That is exactly how I feel about it, disturbed.  Who'd a thunk Fox News could provide some useful info. But, did you see how that bastard in the studio, far from the disaster cut the reporter off and tried to offer some "perspective". Had to admire the reporter, he wouldn't be silenced. Though he and others like him may be out of work when this is over. I sure hope not.

I agree with your advice to not listen to or trust authorities. I don't and it serves me well. I trust my instincts and only 2 other people in this world.

4 (edited by lyra 2005-09-04 14:15:33)

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Well, the stories keep trickling in.  Now we hear "The Guardsmen Played Cards While People Died in New Orleans":

http://www.rense.com/general67/guards.htm

This is why I had those 3 ideas last night of what we'll have to do to help ourselves if we ever find ourselves in a situation that's even remotely like New Orleans (which I listed in my previous post).   This is what our government resources are like.  This is why we can't rely on them, and will have to make sure we don't sit around waiting to be rescued, and instead, take control of the reigns.

And for me, it's been pretty much cemented that there was "something else" going on in New Orleans, yes, of a conspiratorial nature.  There supposedly were "agent provocateurs" shooting at the very people who were there to help them;  The Mayor could not get the assistance he needed from Bush for over 3 days no matter how much he begged;  The National Guard closed down a viable route out of the convention center keeping the sheep locked up in the pen, and endangering lives for absolutely no logical reason;  now we're hearing that the troops arrived on the scene then basically just sat on their asses and did nothing..................which is EXACTLY what I was saying in another thread yesterday, based on the photos we saw of them trolling up and down the streets of NO with blank empty faces, ignorning the people around them who were suffering..... and which I got blasted for by another poster who happens to be in the military and so probably felt like I was dismantling his personal "sacred cow."

But you know what?   It ended up being the truth.  I, and others were right.  The National Guard showed up and did nothing, and worsened the situation.

These stories are going to keep trickling in, mind you.   This won't be the only controversial stuff we eventually learn about in regards what really was going on during those 6 days.  So the only thing I can advise for anybody who's going to get upset is to keep in mind the three ideas I posted previously - learn from the mistakes of what we saw happening here, and make sure it never happens to you. 

Also, freeme just started another thread entitled "Katrina SOLUTIONS", which expands on this, so take a look at that as well for ideas and where to go from here. 

These  stories are going to generate a second round of loosh feeding due to people reading them and getting all upset with no outlet, feeling helpless to fix anything.  Let's try to avoid that, and concentrate on what we can do from here on out, not only to help any way we can, but to prevent this from happening again, and to get our own selves prepared as well.

On a sidenote, it's been said that the Bush cabal is going to take a hard hit for this.  They're not going to be able to get away with what happened this past week, and they're going down as a result of it.  Remember hearing about how Condalizard was shopping in New York City while all of this was going on?   There's too many stories coming out, too many groups kicking up a stink.  The black activist groups are not going to let this rest, because in their minds, these are their people that were purposefully ignored and encouraged to suffer and die by the evil white politicians.   So, that's not going to go away. And now the mainstream media is picking up on the delayed response like a windfall and just running with it.  Somebody on another thread mentioned that this is by design, that it's "time" for Bush to go down, because the media isn't just "allowed" to talk about these things unless they're given the green light to do so.   So if they're talking about it then it means they've gotten the green light go ahead.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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5 (edited by Lakme 2005-09-04 18:48:51)

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lyra wrote:

And for me, it's been pretty much cemented that there was "something else" going on in New Orleans, yes, of a conspiratorial nature.  There supposedly were "agent provocateurs" shooting at the very people who were there to help them;  The Mayor could not get the assistance he needed from Bush for over 3 days no matter how much he begged;  The National Guard closed down a viable route out of the convention center keeping the sheep locked up in the pen, and endangering lives for absolutely no logical reason;  now we're hearing that the troops arrived on the scene then basically just sat on their asses and did nothing...................

Right on the money with these observations, Lyra.  This is all BY DESIGN. 

lyra wrote:

learn from the mistakes of what we saw happening here, and make sure it never happens to you.

I agree.  Words of wisdom.
 

lyra wrote:

...(let's) concentrate on what we can do from here on out, not only to help any way we can, but to prevent this from happening again, and to get our own selves prepared as well.

Again, great advice.


lyra wrote:

On a sidenote, it's been said that the Bush cabal is going to take a hard hit for this.  They're not going to be able to get away with what happened this past week, and they're going down as a result of it.  Remember hearing about how Condalizard was shopping in New York City while all of this was going on?   There's too many stories coming out, too many groups kicking up a stink.  The black activist groups are not going to let this rest, because in their minds, these are their people that were purposefully ignored and encouraged to suffer and die by the evil white politicians.   So, that's not going to go away. And now the mainstream media is picking up on the delayed response like a windfall and just running with it. Somebody on another thread mentioned that this is by design, that it's "time" for Bush to go down, because the media isn't just "allowed" to talk about these things unless they're given the green light to do so.  So if they're talking about it then it means they've gotten the green light go ahead.

That somebody would be me. smile The NWO controlled media does not put anything out there mistakenly, or without an agenda.  Bush and the neo-con gang may be sacrificed, since they are just puppets after all, but who knows?  You can be sure though, that the mainstream media spotlight on the deliberate incompetence shown by the government and its agents is all by design.  It would not be shown otherwise.

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Lakme wrote:

I agree.  Words of wisdom.

Even if they were badly written!  big_smile  Ahh, oh well.  I had just rolled out of bed this morning and wrote that, so it's a bit dodgy in the coherancy department, and I didn't really clean it up too much afterwards either.  Too lazy. smile  Oh well, at least you can tell what I was trying to say.  haha


Lakme wrote:

That somebody would be me. smile  The NWO controlled media does not put anything out there mistakenly, or without an agenda.  Bush and the neo-con gang may be sacrificed, since they are just puppets after all, but who knows?  You can be sure though, that the mainstream media spotlight on the deliberate incompetence shown by the government and its agents is all by design.  It would not be shown otherwise.

Usually I'm freakishly good at remembering who said what about who in which thread and when, so I'm sorry for forgetting it was you. smile   But you're right.  It's going to be interesting to watch where this all goes and how it unfolds in the next few weeks / months in regards to Bush and the Federal government's negligance and slow response; how needed $$$ was funnelled to Iraq instead of being used to repair levees, etc.   And I'm still reeling at the Matthew channelling posted by Jen which reminded us about what acts of war will now possibly be delayed, or cancelled outright, because of this hurricane.  SO much stuff will come out of this, both bad and good, as well as things we can't even begin to forsee right now............

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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lyra wrote:

And for me, it's been pretty much cemented that there was "something else" going on in New Orleans, yes, of a conspiratorial nature.  There supposedly were "agent provocateurs" shooting at the very people who were there to help them;

I have believed all along that agent provocateurs are at work in New Orleans.  I just came across this article that alleges delta force involvement there.  Very interesting.

This was posted at www.conspiracyplanet.com

Pentagon -- Delta Force Snipers in New Orleans?
    by TOTAL411.INFO

(EDITOR'S NOTE: Total411.info has provided excellent coverage of government incompetence and/or conspiracy in handling the Katrina catastrophe in New Orleans. As Michael Rivero of What Really Happened.com points out "This sounds really way out there, but the suggestion is not without historical precedent. Some historians believe Nero himself set the fire that burned Rome in order to clear the land for an ambitious rebuilding project. The fire got out of control, and Nero framed the Christians for it to save his own skin.

Delta forces in New Orleans? The case builds.

On Thursday, Sep. 1, there was a report on the net that Delta Force had just dropped into New Orleans. This was at about the same time this website noticed a couple helicopters full of unidentified troops being dropped off the helipad at the Superdome. If the "Delta Force" story is true (and even Army Times says forces are engaging in combat in New Orleans), or another small special ops force were dropped into New Orleans, they would be well placed, for provocateuring more than anything else.

Such as laying down sniper fire on boats evacuating patients from a hospital or setting fires, or sniping at firefighters.

This item is from the LiveJournal blog of someone holed up in a functioning datacenter on Canal St. at 1pm CDT Saturday:

"The Riverwalk may be on fire (shopping mall at the river at end of CBD/Quarter). Everytime we talk to the police, we hear about sniper fire at the fire scenes. I cannot confirm that there is any. This is all hearsay, but it's coming from the police. The police we talk to, while consistent about claiming there is sniper fire, are conflicted about whether it's police sniper fire trying to take out arsonists or criminal sniper fire trying to take out police and fire rescue teams. Again, this is rumor for now, but we're hearing a lot of this rumor.

Delta Force is a criminal organization, having previously engaged in the murder of Americans at Waco, so any fire from them would by definition be "sniper fire."

It seems like someone is going up and down the river, setting prime real estate on fire and laying sniper fire to make sure it burns down. First the warehouses, now the Riverwalk shopping mall, a structure orginally constructed for the 1984 World's Fair.

Are there other special forces teams out there that could take out these provocateurs?

Anyone that gives a damn about America or New Orleans? Could someone call France and ask for a hand?

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Thanks for posting that.   Another possibility is mind controlled pawns.  There's a level that's known as "Delta", which isn't the same as the actual Delta Force, but they are the disposable pawns used for dirty work, whether it be the larger missions such assasinations, down to the smaller terrorist acts - arson, sniper work, blowing stuff up, burglery, and just all around mayhem when needed.  Gunther Russbacher, ex-husband of Rumor Mill News' Rayellen wrote an article about these kids / men, and where the government finds them and how they're programmed and trained.  http://www.whale.to/b/rm8.html

The DC snipers would fall into this category as well, for a well known example people will be familiar with.  The older guy out of the 2 was former military, with sniper training.  He was probably programmed ala "The Manchurian Candidate", then set loose to go do his thing, for whatever agenda it served. 

But anyway, it's another possibility of who could have been behind at least some of the sniper shootings and deliberate interference going on down in New Orleans.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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