South-east Asian tsunami kills thousands (Page 5 of 8)

I've been around conspiracy theories since the early '80s, because of my ex-husband.  I've known about the Bohemian Grove, Bilderbergers, Travestock etc etc for 2 decades - the only value I could see then and now in knowing about this is how to live a life that is as much as possible "out of the box" ... I've found that discussing the conspiracies can become a form of intellectual snobbism and as such rather than bringing someone "very little" (as Andy mentioned) does a great deal of harm.
Mistrust becomes the order of the day.  The ability to find joy in a flower is lost ... as the horrors of the conspiracy and NWO cloud every thought.

So ... yes, be aware of evil and work damn hard not to shadow evil in any aspect of ones life.  A HUGE task, possibly one that only a saint can attain but, to me, a heck of a lot more fun than preaching hell, fire and damnation -- which under any guise is still fear based.

Christine B.

You think you're joking, but you're not.

Possible, my experience is some well-educated people remain attached on their "regular" science despite all the occult knowledge available. 

I want the TRUTH, then joy comes automatically.

Yes ok, be aware, monitoring evil takes not all your energies.

Yes, I respect your statement. We must repel fear , ok.

BUT, I can say and warn you this:

The plans of the Illuminati ARE MUCH MORE EVIL than the most of us can even imagine. And their plans contain even much more evil issues than David Icke is reporting, or is able to report. Also, the Illuminati do have MUCH MORE Technology available than the mean people even can imagine.

But don't panic.

And .. the Illuminati have their own weaknesses:
their inflexible black magic matrix coordinated system, that if well detected can be overruled.

Remind: Black Magic overrules Technology,
However, Consciousness of Mind overrules Black Magic.

Also, there ARE MUCH more abilities to protect yourself and to get a pro-active (and optimistic) strategy (as you also was mentioning).

See my topic-post in [spiritual & metaphysics].

The challenge is to get these abilities pro-actively out ASAP and effectively.

And this Website and this forum are very good examples of it.

if this is a true statement, you're telling a contradiction.

So, you're lying here ?

My wanted truth is independent of the Illuminati in the case of the spiritual.

I don't think so....

?  So, what are YOU doing here ??

ok, this sounds much more spiritual.

ok, also makes sense to me.

I'm not so sure about his.

thanks.

Beauty is Truth; Truth, Beauty. Right? Somebody or other wrote that. Some poet!

Maybe for some people, the ugliest truth becomes beauty, so much so that that very process of sorting through "the ills" is somehow uplifting for them .For others, beauty must appear before their "eyes": this, for them, is the ultimate truth.

Their truth. But, in truth, both are both beautiful and true.

I think its terrible of me when I, for instance, lecture or berate others simply because they like thinking about or doing something that I've simply lost interest in.
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Have I then "gone beyond?" the subject matter? No. I've moved on, but I haven't
changed the fact that the info is there for others to discover, explore, and yes, perhaps even obsess over. Rather than tell everyone to get with my program, I'd have been better off just feeling relieved that I don't have to think about what to me is so relentlessly negative and harmful for me.
Someone else may see things in there that I haven't even begun to consider, and if
never finding a final answer really destroys someones life, it could have been anything from Peoria to potatoes that did em in. Even God, love and life.You name it.
      I mean, I'm so OVER potatoes. Puh-leeze. They are such boring, brown, and dreary vegetables....I.....think...uh.....well....um....er...

Happy New Year to everybody...

Been following events in SE Asia and a friend sent me this. Very interesting facts to add into the mix for consideration.

V

WHAT A COINCIDENCE, 85 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE HIT BY THE TSUNAMI WERE MUSLIM

**Does one too many coincidences spell concoincidence?

Subject: Tsunami - - 85% of the population of Indonesia follows Islam

Forwarded Message:

As I wrote in the first email concerning the Tsunami, showing that INTENTIONALLY "there was no warning" (now confirmed on Drudge Report), and that ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) technology is available to cause earthquakes, by the powers of Novus Ordo Seclorum(New World Order), that Indonesia is on "the Pentagon's new map" for "War on Terrorism", and that death tolls in reporting have been greatly delayed, and that the Media has been spinning this in their propaganda-type manner. (Tonight ABC news wasted public air time about bloggers on the internet, interviewing a teen-age girl!) The U.S. media seems to be downplaying the bad news now, to protect American's delicate ears (being only able to hear "positive" things), while the death toll is CLEARLY IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS! While Drudge Report says the "official count" is 125,000, officials in these countries know better, as does their media, which is leaking out. One report we will quote later, says 400,000--which the Drudge Report headlines with a question mark (?). Why would they lie? In addition, another mark of suspicion, is that while Bush offered a few pence ($35 million of debt money) for aid, he is now rushing to out compete the U.N. in establishing pretended aid! Often, those who blow the trumpet in pretended compassion, are those who are hiding their guilty faces of the conspiracy they were a part of.

Conspiracy? Absolutely! Again, this area was on the target map for the "War on Terrorism", and just WHO do you think is the predominant religion and idealogical power in that region?

"The majority (about 85%) of the population follows Islam." http://www.asiatour.com/indonesia/e-01land/ei-lan13.htm

But there is more! The HARDEST HIT AREA, THE NORTHERN AREA OF SUMATRA, IS THE MOST DOMINANT IN ISLAMIC LEADERSHIP, ON THE ISLAND OF SUMATRA:

" Today, the most hard-core of the indonesian muslims lives in Aceh, the northern tip of Sumatra, where Islam is said to first take hold. They have always been fierce fighters, giving both the Dutch and the Indonesian state a hard time. Aceh strived for a long time for an independent Islamic state and has today a special status." http://home.swipnet.se/~w-15266/indons/ … ligion.htm

Note now, IT IS THIS AREA, OF "ACEH, THE NORTHERN TIP OF SUMATRA"--THAT WAS NEAR THE EARTHQUAKE ZONE, BUT ALSO, THE HARDEST HIT BY THE TSUNAMI. Now, pray tell, what is the death toll there?

KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 30 (Bernama) -- The death toll in Acheh, the region worst hit by last Sunday's tsunami, may exceed 400,000 as many affected areas could still not be reached for search and rescue operations, Indonesia's Ambassador to Malaysia Drs H. Rusdihardjo said Thursday. http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news_ … ?id=111574

Viola! 400,000 of mostly Islamic souls! How strategic, this "act of nature", "act of God" (conspiracy of Man playing God!) warned of in the vision of Daniel in the coming evil global government! There was INTENTIONALLY "no warning given", and the true cause of it can be seen by the propaganda, shifting, pretended humanitarian support, and guilty smirks standing in front of the secret ELF low frequency technology, or sub-marine drilling and setting of thermonuclear devices behind the curtain of Shadow Government, at the controls. There was intentionally NO WARNING GIVEN, and the cause is highly suspect, knowing that the technology IS employed in these modern times! (source: http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO409F.html)

Atolls and islands have been tested before using nuclear devices, including one in the Bikini Atoll in 1946, called Operation Hardtack:

"When the shot went off, at first, there was only a large mound of water similar to a "ground-swell" that appeared. I thought, 'there wasn't much to that'! But after a moment, it burst through the surface, and water and debris went up as high as I could see....Then, the concussion came, feeling like a very hard slap especially to the face. Then the sound came so intense that one would really need ear protection, which we didn't have, except to plug the ears with our hands....Next, we could see the tidal-wave approaching and we could see it on the other side of the blast site as it rolled over the island in the distance. " http://www.aracnet.com/~pdxavets/rodgersj.htm

Interesting, they too had a tidal wave. Here is a picture of Operation Hardtack: http://www.aracnet.com/~pdxavets/hardtac1.htm

Could this have been a larger one set deep in the sea floor? Whether by ELF or sub-marine thermonuclear device, the earthquake and Tsunami that ensued has already been compared in the Zionist Media to "9/11" (their words), with "pictures....remembrances.....acts of heroism", "except this one was not man-made" (interesting they felt they shoud say that). It nevertheless fits the pattern of the Iran earthquake on Dec. 26, 2003
(20,000 dead), and the PNAC's plot to make a War on Terrorism (largely in Islamic nations, like Indonesia) to "re-order the world around us"
(PM Tony Blair).

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Warning: Reading this material might induce significant anxiety or depression. Individuals with a history of heart problems, or who are being treated for depression, may find it advisable not to read this report. http://www.apfn.org/apfn/population.htm

SOS Tsunami: It's Time For a United Media Appeal http://www.mediachannel.org/

More than anything Lyra, I think it's the tone you use more than anything else.  But that is the readers problem, and not yours.

This happens to me all the time in life.  People know what I am like; I can sound really shitty when I say something.  That's just the way it comes out, it's not how I mean it.  Yet people know I am like this, they know I don't mean harm, but the still take offence.

Goes back to what we were saying in another post the other day.  People seem to have trouble with opinions being expressed.

There is of course a difference between judging, and discernment.  I tend to take your posts to be your discernment; and I believe that is genuinely the case.

To be judging, you would have to be passing a critical statement upon someone / something, with the intent to have a certain affect.  Seeing as you aren't critasing, nor intending any sort of response to your posts, you clearly aren't judging.

Anyway, it's a difficult issue to get around.  In my own experience, I have found that I have had to be the one to "let go".  That is; "If they want to think I am judging let them."  All I would do is make a simple statement that I intended no offence.

Why have I had to be the one to "apologise" or let go of the issue?  Because I was the one to identify the problem, so letting go was the only way not to exasperate the issue.

I guess there's no easy answer.  People always want to defend their perception / ego, and so feel attacked when that perception is discussed in a way that doesn't match their beliefs.

I don't know...maybe this says as much about me as it does about anything else...