a sudden insight, perhaps (Page 2 of 2)

I was just confused because it seemed like a contradiction and was wondering if I had read all that wrong.

To reply to as how we can know anything, my personal way is to continually hold information in a waiting room, without admittance to any sort of belief unless it seems to hold up under scrutiny.  This 23 theory is just a theory.  I can't say that it's true, and wouldn't bet money on it.  I can say that it seems to be a path I continually see and feel like I should look into.  I know from my own experienc that I saw a lot of 311s before I started learning about synchronicities, and then seeing 23s.  Today, I know a lot more about this stuff than I ever did before the 23 thing.  Taken from that perspective, and if 23 means that ideas are going to manifest, then I can say, yes, there might be something to that.

As to the cat analogy, I would think that people seem to have an idea that the human mind can percieve other dimensions, to some degree, and information or knowledge comes from intiution, or a type of deeper thinking, which coincides with my belief that true thinking comes not from the mind, but from the heart, or this other consciousness that resides deep inside each of us.  We can't say that anything we know is fact, because it's all blind faith to one degree or another.  All I can say is that, if I am to take anything as a given, I take this "I" to be the only truth that I can rely on.  Otherwise, it'd be a loss of individuality, with me just floating around in a sea of ideas and merely observing, instead of participating.

I can't start from square one, because I'm continually starting from square one as to what I truly believe to be true.  But, given certains givens, I can formulate a hypothesis on certain avenues.  This 23/alien thing is one of them.  Given the "clues" I've seen over time, and years of minute references, seeming to crop up, then I can assume that perhaps there's something to it. 

I don't go looking for these things, per se, because a lot of times, I think I just have to let it come to me.  And it always does.  Not just the alien thing, but all sorts of different things.  Think of it as a key, or a step in enlightenment.  To get to this truth, you must first see things this way.  From what I've read, enlightenment happens that way.  After learning about one thing, I move onto another, and now I can pretty much cross-reference anything new I read with old information, and it lets me see the whole picture a little more clearly.

consider it destiny - at least you know youre on the right path!

i have a similar example;
i found some old high school papers i wrote 5+ years ago, and one of them really surprised me: it was a history paper on Mesopotamia/Sumeria !! I read the paper as if for the first time, and i was amazed to find out i had already unconsciously began my search for the truth as a freshman in high school. I had things in there such as "alot of mystery surrounds Mesopotamia and Sumeria.." although i didnt go off claiming Aliens etc... i did state that this ancient culture has something about it.

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to lyra,
i know you may not like it when I, or someone else, goes off on a tangent talking about what we think of the Greys, but like Haven stated, all talk about Aliens should be considered Theory, because, well- we cant really prove anything...yet.

but, i'd like to make some points about your argument to us:
- you seem to say that everything said/known about Grays is "bunk" - yet in numerous other "fringe" topics, it is considered that even though a work is said to contain disinformation; there is still some fraction of valuable truth data that can be extracted... why is this NOT the case with the Aliens (Greys/Grays) ?

- you also seem to agree with this statement u excerpted;

this to me is a very strong statement that could not really be proven/disproven unless we could see till the end of time. what im trying to say is that the same way you say [we dont know this for sure] - you don't know this statement for sure either, but u seem to believe we will not ever understand/know these Alien Greys? i dont see it that way...

and then you go on to conclude that the reason we believe all this stuff is because of fake books and disinformation thats been fed to us. thats totally not true. we arrive at these conclusions (that aren't set is stone) the same way you do, by analyzing information and resources and seeing what the intuition says about it.

sometimes its just a feeling of something we think is close to how things are.

let's take my statement as an example;

I think you should/would agree with the first statement, of them choosing to master External Creation, Technology. This is the nature of the STS orientation. Its pretty obvious

Now, the second statement is more of an intuitive theory of mine that i see happening all over the world.

Many will say that Roswell, or other UFO crashes have yielded advanced technology. Not just one or two books, but a plethora of writers and ex-alphabet boys etc.. they all say it. There's reports of UFO crashes , not just in the US, but worldwide, in which strange microfiber technology was found, i've even hurd that there were something similar to flatpanel screens inside the Roswell ship.

Now, i realize that some of these reports are over the top, and that some may be disinformation. but are ALL of them FALSE? i mean there's obviously a reason for these reports and stories to be circulating. and i do accept the fact that the reason for some of the stories can be to disinform.

Beyond that "data" - i see this theory (Alien-Seeded-Technology) all over. My old example used to be, "take a look at the back of your Computer -- What would you make of all those Symbols, had you no idea what a Computer was?" the USB Symbol is a great example of something resembling an Alien Symbol kind of thing.

Then there is the most obvious (yet most un-ackknowledged) proof: this technology is way ahead of US, we are not mature enough for it yet. What i mean is that we have these wonderful technologies that have been born since the Computer Age, yet we Humans always seem to screw them up and misuse them. my main examples of this were the INternet and its great potential-- yet its been screwed up by Spam, Pop-Ups, Porn, Spim, and all kinds of immature tactics. The internet could be the closest thing to Telepathy to us 3d humans, yet we are dumbfounded by it.

Now, if that doesnt make you think that this technology was prematurely forced upon the earth human civilisation, then i dunno. if anything it shows our dark side.

We stand on opposite ends of this spectrum regarding the Greys/Grays, you and I lyra, so i suppose the reason behind this is to find the middle ground, to meet halfways to see whats the most reasonable explanation or information.
I may be looking at these Aliens in too much of a positive light, while you may be looking at them in too much of a negative way.

remember what i said about "them" playing both sides of the coin!

*also - did u get to post up those excerpts you were talking about ?