1 Topic by Moralman (edited by Moralman 2004-11-23 03:16:39)

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Topic: A few questions about your Biblical interpretations

Dear Friends
kind regards
I realise that this is an alternative forum dealing with metaphysics, conspiracies and the deeper meanings of life however I really have the urge to ask some biblical questions.
The Bible is Jewish and Christian in its origin but it is still an interesting book as people find ways to interpret it as the Bible has alot of truth in it.
Some Christians actually believe that UFO's exist and that they are Satans angels.
Here is an interesting link.........
http://www.echoesofenoch.com/index.cfm? … p;pageid=1
I have ten interpretation questions that I hope you can answer to the best of your ability.
1. What is your interpretation of the Tower of Babel?
2. What is your interpretation of the Four horsemen of the apocalypse?
3. What do you think the Resurrected body is?
4. What is the battle of Armaggedon?
5. What is the new heaven and new Earth?
6. What was the garden of Eden and what was the meaning behind the "forbidden tree"?
7. What is your interpretation of the kingdom of hell?
8. What is your interpretation of the lake of fire?
9. What is your interpretation of the second death?
10. What is your interpretation of the mark of the beast?
Hopefully you will take the time to give me your interpretations and knowledge.
If you could all post your answers A.S.A.P I'd appreciate it.
yours thankfully
John

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Re: A few questions about your Biblical interpretations

1. I believe the Tower of Babel itself was a spaceship (e.g. a rocket). Humankind may have been relatively free and developed at that time and they committed the greatest "sin", attempting spacetravel themselves. Of course the Annunaki overlords would not tolerate such things. The language aspect may refer to humans communicating telepathically at first (I believe when communicating directly with thoughts, one does not need "language"), but then humans were given the "superior" communication form of speech. Speech requires certain concepts and objects to be assigned certain sound vibrations (e.g. words/language), and distance between people automatically causes language to differ over time, thus scattering it.

2. It seems to be four different forms of attack. The first and fourth horse could be literally ships, the second (taking peace from the Earth) could be a mental attack (e.g. removing the concept of peace from the human mind), the third could be related to causing famine and/or rationing food.

3. This could refer to a new way of existing, i.e. not physical (a higher density).

4. Could be Enki and Enlil Reloaded. Those guys just love throwing nukes at eachother's cities (which are populated by humans).

5. Perhaps this suggests Earth will enter a higher density as well, or perhaps it simple refers to a new control system on Earth (New World Order), where the new heaven houses the masters and the new Earth houses the slaves.

6. The garden of Eden was probably literally a nice place to live in (possibly not on Earth itself but perhaps in orbit). Adam and Eve were most likely more than just two people (rather two groups of people). The forbidden tree was forbidden because it would give humans a free will, instead of being slaves. The snake is often said to have been Enki.

7. Could just be a scare-story to make people obedient.

8. Perhaps part of the scare-story, or perhaps some sort of all-purpose garbage bin where you can throw in anything you have no idea what to do with it.

9. Perhaps death of the mind after death of the body.

10. It could refer to microchips, especially using them as credit cards (VI is a Roman 6, S Egyptian and A Sanskrit so VISA is 666). The worship of material things and thus money might be equivalent to the worship of Satan.

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Re: A few questions about your Biblical interpretations

1)The tower of Babel: I think things were repeating what happened in babylon, that was people were doing great things but yet again were going to forget about the higher powers that actually lead them to where they were. In Babylon the King set himself up as being higher and greater than Marduk. Here man was going to put their buildings right up to the heavens. Once there what's to stop them from claiming to be "gods". Just some thoughts.

2) I saw the White horse symbolizing what Joel said about the pouring out of the spirit kind of a re-awakening to plant as many seeds and wake as many people as possible before something comes to distract the people. The red horse represents the dumbing down and giving up of self to others, lack of personal responsibility by the individual if you want. The black horse represents famine and struggle for base needs. The pale horse represents loss of health / spirituality. The complete debasement of humans. The last three horses only intent/desire is for the individual to focus on self.

3)The resurrected body is all the believers (not just christians) That persevered through all the enemy onslaughts to distract you from living how you should...STO. I think it will be the highest density.
It is where all the fruits you have cultivated in your life adorn you. Clothed in the love you planted, The joy providing your strength. etc.

4)I don't know. I take it as being the stripping away of the illusion which we call reality.

5)I think it represents a time/ a world were we live as we were intended to live.

6) I think the Garden was where God was teaching us pain free how to obey him and was wanting to teach us reality. I think there would have been a time when man could have eaten the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil...it would have taken time.  Taking the short cut to THAT knowlegde so to speak... we were required to have other restrictions put on us until we could work things out in a longer route. ie shorter life span and I think control of the elements.

7)8) The kingdom of hell/lake of fire I see as being essentially the same thing. Though the lake of fire just may be the boundaries of the hellish realm. If you read some of the apocolyptic books by Peter, Paul etc hell is basically where the unteachable will go. Those who rebelliously refuse to soften or change.

9)I think the second death is the death of the soul. It is based on how you lived. Who will be grouped with this? I think what gets classified here as neg. beings will be but what degree of negativeity? I don't know.

10) As per Aprogas, but I also see it as the lack of self control and responsibility. It is consumer credit that really makes anybody a slave here and now. Lack of self control and responsibility in this day and age is what enslves you. Most consumer credit is spent on your wants/needs which is STS. And in some regards the ultimate because you just file for bankruptcy and let others deal with your mistakes.

Just my thoughts.

Peace,
Teddy

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4 Reply by Moralman (edited by Moralman 2004-11-23 07:39:29)

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Re: A few questions about your Biblical interpretations

Dear Friends
kind regards
Thank you for your interpretations and hopefully more people will contribute to this thread soon.
Here are my interpretations of the 10 questions.
1. I believe that the Tower of Babel was created by Humanoids of rebellion to go right up into space and so forces took a stand.
It is interesting to state also that in the Bible it states that at the Tower of Babel people were split up to stop them from rebelling against God and thus different languages were created.
Here is a link about the Tower of Babel.........
http://ambilac-uk.tripod.com/cometlee2012/id6.html
2. The white horse symbolises war without compromise, The red horse represents the forces of chaos, The black horse represents starvation and the Grey horse represents death.
3. The Resurrection body is the 12 strand DNA Light body that is multi-dimensional.
However I definately think that it has to be earned and we will only get what we give.
The bible states that the righteous and the believer will receive the resurrected Body.
I believe that the Souls who are on Earth either fell from grace or are here for some other reason nonetheless one day the righteous will possess the light body which was at one time our original equipment.
Here is a good link about this.........
http://www.soulwise.net/21owocre.htm
This website has a pretty good article about the "fall from grace" and the 12 strand DNA light body that some of us may aquire after the changes in 2012.
Another good link with several articles is the main 2012 site online that has several articles about the 2012 changes and the 12 Strand DNA Light body.
Here is the link.........
http://www.2012.com.au/unlimited.html
4. I think that the battle of Armaggeddon is two things.
It is the coming World war 3 and on a current level(as it has been for a long time now) a struggle between good and evil in every possible way.
5. I think that the New Heaven and Earth will come in the future-the World and the second coming of Christ will remove the forces of evil, chaos and injustice.
We will live in a World where good souls resonate with each other, standards and Morals become the new culture and civilisation recognises justice and balance along with technological advancement.........it will be a Moral World civilisation.
6. I think that the Garden of Eden was real-perhaps the Garden of Eden was the "old heaven" and somehow Souls fell from grace because of rebellion and ignorance.
In todays World people are still tasting the forbidden fruit and making the World a worse place than it should be.
7. Hell is much like our World today-a place of lies, chaos, evil, immorality and darkness.
Politicians are overlords anmd rule us with a rod of iron.
8. The Lake of fire is a realm where the most evil of souls(Illuminati members and their puppets) will end up in the future.
Perhaps the lake of fire is the planet Orion.
9. The second death means either the death of a Soul(People on this forum states that the Soul is immortal however the Bible says otherwise) or the death of ALL evil in all of its forms.
I don't believe that evil has an infinite life and thus one day once evil is removed on a mass scale it will one day suffer a second death with the rise in the collective soul consciousness and human race thus ending evil forever.
Evil will be dead.........I hope that this day comes and comes quickly.
10. I believe that the mark of the beast is a spiritual obedience to the Anti-christ.
An Illuminati puppet may not take a microchip but he has spiritually taken the mark of the beast because he is obedient to a perverse and vile system that defies God.
The mark of the beast is also the microchip as well.
In the future the vast majority will take this unknowingly because they acted in an evil manner and had no decency therefore they will be the unwitting ones who fall for the Satanic agenda.
The righteous will be saved.
yours thankfully
John

5 Reply by zonabi (edited by zonabi 2004-11-23 08:07:19)

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Re: A few questions about your Biblical interpretations

6. What was the garden of Eden and what was the meaning behind the "forbidden tree"?

I believe this story represents Man's creation (as in being artificially created thru genetic engineering) by "aliens". the story is full of symbolism (as much of the bible) - such as "god" created adam from the dirt/clay of earth, i believe that refers to Aliens genetically altering apes from earth. the apes being the "clay" of earth, or primitive animals on earth at the time. Whichever Alien Race was responsible for this (Sirian?) was a "control-freak" type of people. they wanted their new creation(man) to be pretty much dumb and slaves- just living in complete bliss (sound familiar?) and thus the Tree does represent our Free Will. What is interesting to note is that the Serpent probably symbolizes another Alien Race who did NOT think it was fair to keep the new humans under such strict control, and thus they felt the need to liberate Mankind.

What i find so amazingly strange is that it appears that the Serpent actually did something good in this case, while our Creators seemed to be the control freaks.
Add that the theory that Souls switch roles between lives and flip-flop between orientations, and u can kind of see a connection.

Lake of fire may be that huge, bright, flaming star Betelguese? it is in Orion. just a thought.

Another thought, actually i read this somewhere- the mark of the beast was said to be the Roman Catholic Church or the Roman Empire. i forgot much of the reason, but i remember that ti stated the Bible says the Mark of the Beast has 6 crowns or 6 heads or something, which the person related to the countries or places the Roman Catholics engulfed. i dunno.... just throwing things out there. I also can see the Microchip as a mark of the beast but then again a million things can be the mark of the beast, maybe it is supposed to be symbolic and metaphorical not literal. microchip sounds like it fits the descrption too, u remember how everyone thought the Barcode was the mark ? maybe they werent too far off....

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6 Reply by Atlantis (edited by Atlantis 2004-11-23 09:23:51)

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Re: A few questions about your Biblical interpretations

Moralman wrote:

Dear Friends
kind regards
I realise that this is an alternative forum dealing with metaphysics, conspiracies and the deeper meanings of life however I really have the urge to ask some biblical questions.
The Bible is Jewish and Christian in its origin but it is still an interesting book as people find ways to interpret it as the Bible has alot of truth in it.
Some Christians actually believe that UFO's exist and that they are Satans angels.
Here is an interesting link.........
http://www.echoesofenoch.com/index.cfm? … p;pageid=1
I have ten interpretation questions that I hope you can answer to the best of your ability.

1. What is your interpretation of the Tower of Babel?

The illusion of matter/man made constructions.

3. What do you think the Resurrected body is?

The body illuminated with knowledge.

4. What is the battle of Armaggedon?

choice between arrogance and knowledge.

5. What is the new heaven and new Earth?

God & Humankind as partners in managing nature.

6. What was the garden of Eden and what was the meaning behind the "forbidden tree"?

Free will in line with God's Will. Forbidden tree = free will neglecting God.

7. What is your interpretation of the kingdom of hell?

Lack of knowledge.

8. What is your interpretation of the lake of fire?

Maybe the astral realms ?

9. What is your interpretation of the second death?

You mention Jezus Christ ?

10. What is your interpretation of the mark of the beast?

3 times level 6:  3 x the star of David without Christ-spark.

Spirit: 6
Soul: 6
Body: 6

Look at card nr. 18 (666) of the Tarot Cards.

Last stage before enlightenment (illumination): 777 (salvation by the Christ-spark)

Card nr. 21 of the Tarot Cards.

Hopefully you will take the time to give me your interpretations and knowledge.
If you could all post your answers A.S.A.P I'd appreciate it.
yours thankfully
John

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Re: A few questions about your Biblical interpretations

zonabi wrote:

Another thought, actually i read this somewhere- the mark of the beast was said to be the Roman Catholic Church or the Roman Empire. i forgot much of the reason, but i remember that ti stated the Bible says the Mark of the Beast has 6 crowns or 6 heads or something, which the person related to the countries or places the Roman Catholics engulfed. i dunno.... just throwing things out there. I also can see the Microchip as a mark of the beast but then again a million things can be the mark of the beast, maybe it is supposed to be symbolic and metaphorical not literal. microchip sounds like it fits the descrption too, u remember how everyone thought the Barcode was the mark ? maybe they werent too far off....

Dear Zoniabi
kind regards
Yes some people believe that being a Catholic or accepting the Roman Catholic religion is taking the mark of the beast.
I don't think that it is.........
I think that the mark of the beast is symbolic for being a puppet for the Illuminati and to take the dreaded microchip which will be used as a NWO tracking device but they can apparently do much more than just track someone with a microchip.
However there are some people that believe that the Roman Catholic Church is the great Satan.
A protestant faction called the Leon Kilkenny family have very negative views on the Roman Catholic Church and have quite a few interesting articles.
Here is the link.........
http://www.reformation.org/page2.html
It is quite interesting and even though you might not agree with all the views on that website it is always good to get an alternative spin on things.
Yours thankfully
John

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Re: A few questions about your Biblical interpretations

Umm yea what Atlantis wrote,
I certainly look like I have diarrhea of the mouth next to her/him.:)

I've never read much of revelation I figured the first white horse to be the same white horse a few chapters later, with the first white horse being a "call to arms", "be alert" type charge.

I have definitely gained food for thought.

Peace,
Teddy

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