1 (edited by Atlantis 2004-11-17 02:36:00)

Topic: The Matrix built by Sirians ? Sirius Serious ?

Many conspiracy websites content the stories of the Illuminati, the Draco reptilians, the Annunaki reptilians, the evil forces etc.

If there's is a subject of how aliens are manipulating us (even with shapeshifting hybrids) all alien stories seem to lead to the reptilians and/or Illuminati.

Sometimes there are books and websites available which talk about some Pleiadians.

But what about the aliens of Sirius ? Sirius-A ?

There are a very few books available mentioning them, and even fewer websites have put them in their scope.

What do we know of them ?

i.e.
Mrs. Murry Hope wrote in her book "The Sirius connection", the Sirians helped the Atlanteans/Egyptians in building the pyramids and the Sphinx.

Mrs. Hope even wrote that the Sirians are maybe the real Matrix Manipulators on a higher level than the evil forces and reptilians are operating here. She wrote the Sirians are able to control our solar space-time system by controlling our minds via our Sirian implanted DNA-structure, our alphabet and numerical system and via Kabbalism.

The tools to control these earthly/time sphere would be the Gizeh pyramid/the Sphinx and the pyramids/face on Mars in co-operation with their own Sirian space vehicles in our solar system in radionic connection with the Star System Sirius-A.

Maybe it can also give an explanation on how "synchronicity" does work in our solar system.

Does anybody else have some kind of this information or something which can lead/confirm to some of these issues ?

Does anybody have some info of maybe the Israelians are in contact with the Sirians and co-operate with them to control the Earth with Kabbalistic mind-control technology ?

For example, I found:

http://hiddenmysteries.com/xcart/produc … ctid=16715

Could the Sirians be the real "Gods" bringing the Atlanteans/Egyptians their knowledge ?

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Interesting idea. I've heard some stuff linking alien control to ancient Egypt before too. Hope someone has some more info!

Re: The Matrix built by Sirians ? Sirius Serious ?

Yep.

Read Lyssa Royal's The Prism of Lyra it explains how Sirians were one of the parents of humanity, and i believe the others were either Vegans or Lyrans, their stories kind of intertwine.

This is just one aspect of our "parents" and i think that Yes, Sirians did help seed Atlantis,
Other Aliens may have intervined at later points in time, such as more recently, and perhaps the Sirians have "stepped back" because of this?
(too much confusion about ETs, they would be ridiculed)

heres a link i just found
http://www.lyssaroyal.com/trans-atun01.htm

im sure theres more information on Sirius in her channel archives etc.

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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Someone made an excellent overview of some of the references to Sirius in occult or para culture, talking about the Dogon advanced knowledge of Sirius B (as popularized by Robert Temple), Idries Shah, Gurdjieff, Crowley and a connection to the Illuminati.

To which I can add some other bits:
- Arthur M. Young mentor Robert Temple (author of: The Sirius Mystery) took part in the "the Council of Nine" channelings in 1952, originating from Sirius.
- Timothy Leary's Starseed Transmissions were channeled from Sirius
- A play starring Sirius: "There is no more firmament" - by pioneer surrealist, Antonin Artaud (Collected Works, vol. ii calder and boyars: london, 971)

I am the eye in the sky
Looking at you
-Alan Parsons Project

the eyes of truth are always watching you

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zonabi wrote:

Yep.

Read Lyssa Royal's The Prism of Lyra it explains how Sirians were one of the parents of humanity, and i believe the others were either Vegans or Lyrans, their stories kind of intertwine.

This is just one aspect of our "parents" and i think that Yes, Sirians did help seed Atlantis,
Other Aliens may have intervined at later points in time, such as more recently, and perhaps the Sirians have "stepped back" because of this?
(too much confusion about ETs, they would be ridiculed)

heres a link i just found
http://www.lyssaroyal.com/trans-atun01.htm

im sure theres more information on Sirius in her channel archives etc.

That makes sense !

bumblebee wrote:

Someone made an excellent overview of some of the references to Sirius in occult or para culture, talking about the Dogon advanced knowledge of Sirius B (as popularized by Robert Temple), Idries Shah, Gurdjieff, Crowley and a connection to the Illuminati.

To which I can add some other bits:
- Arthur M. Young mentor Robert Temple (author of: The Sirius Mystery) took part in the "the Council of Nine" channelings in 1952, originating from Sirius.
- Timothy Leary's Starseed Transmissions were channeled from Sirius
- A play starring Sirius: "There is no more firmament" - by pioneer surrealist, Antonin Artaud (Collected Works, vol. ii calder and boyars: london, 971)

I am the eye in the sky
Looking at you
-Alan Parsons Project

Crowley yes and the OTO, I know.

Franz Hartmann (also the OTO with Theordor Reuss) spoke he found proofs in Tibet/India of a Sirian history on Earth.

ok, thanks for your addition.

BTW: It's written in the books of the Montauk Project, the Sirians were involved (as technical facilitators) in the MK-Ultra project as well. Maybe you can use this.

Alan Parsons Project has more songs about these items (Sirius/Lucifer).

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

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sweeet... timothy leary channeled sirian entities, i did not know that !!!

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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But, HOW dit Timothy Leary channel the Sirians ?

Was it in an astral or a radionic way ?

I found something about space/time manipulation and the Kabbala on

http://www.sangraal.com/library/gnomon.htm

Interesting is the concept of pyramids and octahedrons for space/time control.

Because in the books of Montauk project, there's written the Sirians were able to create a time-travel machine based on electronic antennas in the schape of an octahedron.

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

8 (edited by lyra 2004-11-18 08:07:46)

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Thought I'd throw one into the pile too smile  but in Bob Frissell's "You Are a Spiritual Being Having a Human Experience", he mentions the August 1972 event (anybody here heard of this?)  and how supposedly the sun had a little booboo in August of '72 where it expanded out beyond Jupiter...........which means, Earth was engulfed and wiped out.  But there was a little bit o' intervention on the part of the "Sirians" who put a protective grid around the planet.

Now, when I first read that I took it with a grain of salt.  I mean, come on, that sounds ridiculous, right?   But here's where it gets interesting.......somebody I know has a family member who recalls seeing a MAJOR anomoly with the sun in what she remembers to be.................the summer of 1972.  When pressed for the month she thought that yeah, it could have been August.   To sum up in a nutshell, she saw two suns one afternoon.  One out of the front of her apartment building, and another out the back.   MAJOR anomaly there.

When you read up on the August 1972 event, supposed what the "Sirians" did was create a holographic image of the sun to make things appear normal, so people here on Earth wouldn't realize what was going on, meanwhile, as the real sun went beserk.   This matches up with this above personal account I just reported, where the person saw two suns during the summer of '72.   Seems she was possibly seeing the holographic image of the sun that was projected?

If this is true, then basically, um, none of us should even be here right now.  wink

Another interesting side note is that Ellie Crystal said a few months ago that when her and a friend went astrally traveling to the sun that they discovered that well, it's not real.

Pretty trippy food for thought!   

And on ANOTHER sidenote, in the Harry Potter books, Harry's good guy godfather is Sirius Black, an anamageous who can shapeshift into a black dog.   Sirius - Canis Major - Dog star - also "Sirius Black" anagrams to "Basilisk Cur" - basilisk as in reptilian serpant creature, cur as in, slang term for a dog.    The Dogon tribe of Africa claims that their gods were a reptilian / amphibious race from the "dog" star system Sirius.

Think JK Rowling was trying to tell us something?  wink   Clever clever woman she is.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: The Matrix built by Sirians ? Sirius Serious ?

lyra wrote:

Thought I'd throw one into the pile too smile  but in Bob Frissell's "You Are a Spiritual Being Having a Human Experience", he mentions the August 1972 event (anybody here heard of this?)  and how supposedly the sun had a little booboo in August of '72 where it expanded out beyond Jupiter...........which means, Earth was engulfed and wiped out.  But there was a little bit o' intervention on the part of the "Sirians" who put a protective grid around the planet.

I know, but I don't think this book is helping me (BTW it follows the disinfo of CIA-agent Drunvalo Melchizedek)

Now, when I first read that I took it with a grain of salt.  I mean, come on, that sounds ridiculous, right?   But here's where it gets interesting.......somebody I know has a family member who recalls seeing a MAJOR anomoly with the sun in what she remembers to be.................the summer of 1972.  When pressed for the month she thought that yeah, it could have been August.   To sum up in a nutshell, she saw two suns one afternoon.  One out of the front of her apartment building, and another out the back.   MAJOR anomaly there.

When you read up on the August 1972 event, supposed what the "Sirians" did was create a holographic image of the sun to make things appear normal, so people here on Earth wouldn't realize what was going on, meanwhile, as the real sun went beserk.   This matches up with this above personal account I just reported, where the person saw two suns during the summer of '72.   Seems she was possibly seeing the holographic image of the sun that was projected?

If this is true, then basically, um, none of us should even be here right now.  wink

Another interesting side note is that Ellie Crystal said a few months ago that when her and a friend went astrally traveling to the sun that they discovered that well, it's not real.

Pretty trippy food for thought!

Yes, so we have to be very carefull.

And on ANOTHER sidenote, in the Harry Potter books, Harry's good guy godfather is Sirius Black, an anamageous who can shapeshift into a black dog.   Sirius - Canis Major - Dog star - also "Sirius Black" anagrams to "Basilisk Cur" - basilisk as in serpant creature, cur as in, slang term for a dog.    The Dogon tribe of Africa claims that their gods were a reptilian / amphibious race from the star system Sirius in Canis Major.

Think JK Rowling was trying to tell us something?  wink   Clever clever woman she is!

Yes, but the Dogons got their info from the Egyptians/Atlanteans, not the Sirians.

Mrs. Murry Hope still is the only serious source for me concerning the Sirians.

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

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Atlantis wrote:

I know, but I don't think this book is helping me (BTW it follows the disinfo of CIA-agent Drunvalo Melchizedek)

True, but I wanted to include it in the list of sources that talk about Sirius, because this is definately one.   Keep in mind that just because the book "folllows the disinfo. of CIA-agent Drunvalo Melchizadek" doesn't mean the entire book and everything in it needs to be dismissed.  The phrase "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" comes to mind.   wink 


 

Atlantis wrote:

Yes, so we have to be very carefull.

Of what?  I'm not sure what you're referencing here.


Atlantis wrote:

Yes, but the Dogons got their info from the Egyptians/Atlanteans, not the Sirians.

That might be true, but we can never know for sure.  They claim it was from their reptilian "gods" from Sirius.  Not Egyptian/Atlanteans, although that may very well be the case.  We don't know.


Atlantis wrote:

Mrs. Murry Hope still is the only serious source for me concerning the Sirians.


Don't put all your eggs in one basket.   wink

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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lyra wrote:
Atlantis wrote:

I know, but I don't think this book is helping me (BTW it follows the disinfo of CIA-agent Drunvalo Melchizedek)

True, but I wanted to include it in the list of sources that talk about Sirius, because this is definately one.   Keep in mind that just because the book "folllows the disinfo. of CIA-agent Drunvalo Melchizadek" doesn't mean the entire book and everything in it needs to be dismissed.  The phrase "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" comes to mind.   wink

Ok, I agree with this..

Atlantis wrote:

Yes, so we have to be very carefull.

Of what?  I'm not sure what you're referencing here.

It seems of all these kind of stories 1% is info and 99% is disinfo.

Atlantis wrote:

Yes, but the Dogons got their info from the Egyptians/Atlanteans, not the Sirians.

That might be true, but we can never know for sure.  They claim it was from their reptilian "gods" from Sirius.  Not Egyptian/Atlanteans, although that may very well be the case.  We don't know.

Yes, but there was a reasonable proof the Dogons were remnants of the early Egyptians. I don't have the source with me here.

Atlantis wrote:

Mrs. Murry Hope still is the only serious source for me concerning the Sirians.


Don't put all your eggs in one basket.   wink

Very true, but I still only have 1 egg.  wink

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Atlantis wrote:

Very true, but I still only have 1 egg. wink

hehe  big_smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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I too have read Frissell's work, and yes it indeed mentions Sirius and the Dogon and other related subjects.
Although i have some suspicion in his work, i cant help but resonate with some of its concepts and ideas.
The part of Frissell's work that i dont agree with is when he states (in "Nothing in this Book is true ...") that the Greys(or Grays) are Martians from Mars and that they infiltrated Atlantis during some wierd thing Atlanteans were doing were they split a continent up into 4 parts and each section would have its people focus/study on one specific aspect of existance. well one of these sections supposedly was kind of empty and the Atlanteans called for help and supposedly the Martians(Greys) saw this as a chance to jump on earth (i guess Mars was screwed up?)  So yea that kind of doesnt make sense to me, and since i feel the Greys are more like what Lyssa Royals describes (and many others) as coming from Zet 2 Ret and Orion areas... it doesnt match up too good. but who knows maybe the Greys moved on to Mars or Maldek (or whatever that blown up planet was here between Mars and Jupiter) after a while then moved to earth... bla bla

um, yes i think i read something about an event in 1972, but it wasnt the one u mentioned Lyra. I have heard of that event you mentioned, in a sense. I did hear that the Sirians had to build a special grid around the planet to help us get thru something that was going to happen.

I cant help but think;
Maybe around 1970 we went into a self-destruct mode, like MJ12 said. BUT, my main point is... if it is true that Sirians were our original Parents, it would make perfect sense that they would intervine to save us....

Anyways what i heard that happened in 1972 was something to the effect of some lady in Peru was able to lift up some magical monolith-kind-of-thing from the ground which unlocked something or locked something in place. Frissell says that this ended the Greys from having access to earth.

So, either he is wrong, or the Greys we see recently are MILAB projections, or in other words, FAKE.

What a Siriusly Complex Situation.

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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zonabi wrote:

Although i have some suspicion in his work, i cant help but resonate with some of its concepts and ideas.

Same here, I agree with some of his points and I can tell that he means well, but honestly, I don't know WHERE he comes up with some of his stuff.  I guess it's like Atlantis pointed out, the influence of Drunvalo what's-his-face.  I think when reading anything that's inspired by channeling it's good to have the ol' intuitive radar going to alert you to hogwash.  When I read Frissell's work a lot of sifting is required.   But he does have some good points.  But not enough though that I consider him recommended reading.


zonabi wrote:

The part of Frissell's work that i dont agree with is when he states (in "Nothing in this Book is true ...") that the Greys(or Grays) are Martians from Mars and that they infiltrated Atlantis during some wierd thing Atlanteans were doing were they split a continent up into 4 parts and each section would have its people focus/study on one specific aspect of existance. well one of these sections supposedly was kind of empty and the Atlanteans called for help and supposedly the Martians(Greys) saw this as a chance to jump on earth (i guess Mars was screwed up?)  So yea that kind of doesnt make sense to me, and since i feel the Greys are more like what Lyssa Royals describes (and many others) as coming from Zet 2 Ret and Orion areas... it doesnt match up too good. but who knows maybe the Greys moved on to Mars or Maldek (or whatever that blown up planet was here between Mars and Jupiter) after a while then moved to earth... bla bla

Yeah, there's just so much confusion swarming around out there pertaining to Atlantis, (the continent, not the NR poster wink  )  Mars, the Grays, and every other supposed race of aliens who supposedly intermingled and influenced human history.  It'll make your head spin.  So much channeled material on this, so much disinformation and crazy speak.   I usually try to avoid most of it because when there's no way to prove anything there's no use (for me) in going round and round in circles. 


zonabi wrote:

I cant help but think;
Maybe around 1970 we went into a self-destruct mode, like MJ12 said.

And the plot thickens......see, supposedly MJ12 is a load of hooey.   Well, it's suposedly partially true, but for the most part, it was staged.  If I remember correctly, weren't the Majestic 12 documents "discovered" in an old copy machine, having been "forgotten" for later discovery?   Something along those lines anyway.  But I believe it was Jim Keith? who claimed that they weren't true.  Or William Cooper said it.  It was one of them.  I'll have to look into that later when I get home....


zonabi wrote:

  Anyways what i heard that happened in 1972 was something to the effect of some lady in Peru was able to lift up some magical monolith-kind-of-thing from the ground which unlocked something or locked something in place.

I know that wasn't supposed to be funny, but for some reason I was laughing when I read this!  big_smile big_smile  Oh my.  See!  So much stuff out there.  Who knows what's true! 

Actually there was something else that happened pertaining to 1972.  Some woman took a trip to some church to see and photograph one of those Miraculous Statues, and when the photo was developed the numbers "1972" were on the photo, scrawled in curly-cue handwriting.  You can find a copy of this photo in the book "The Final Warning" by Kathleen Keating.   Weird. 


zonabi wrote:

Frissell says that this ended the Greys from having access to earth. So, either he is wrong, or the Greys we see recently are MILAB projections, or in other words, FAKE.

What a Siriusly Complex Situation.

It sure is!  smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Drunvalo makes me uneasy in the sense that he keeps his material strongly non-falsifiable - neither confirmable nor deniable by anyone but him. For example, secret rituals held at secret locations to avert something no one knew about before or since. Or the history and political melodrama among various alien races only he was privy to via his secret contacts. It's like he's making the fabrications extra wonderful to overwhelm people's desire for discernment. Some stuff definitely fits, but he tries very hard to keep his material rooted in the reader's blindspot where they must take it on faith it's true. Compare this to better channelled material that can be largely confirmed or denied via its level of correlation with mythology, archeology, anthropology, abduction accounts, inner recognition, and personal experience.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.