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When we learn something new, or shift our perspective on things, it's as if our realm expands slightly. A realm is like your "reality bubble" and all the perceptions and experiences it contains. When you increase perception, the reality bubble gets bigger.

Montalk,

When training with energy in Taijutsu we call it "Expanding your Horizons" for obvious multiple reasons. The higher your perception with energy the greater your sphere of influence.

Early in my training, one of the higher level guys was said to be able to see people enter and leave his sphere from about 200 feet, regardless of the surrounding landscape and environment (including walls.

Our training was to be in the center of the room blindfolded, and others would sneak towards us - the goal to turn and face them when you felt them enter your envelope, or horizon. The Sneaker practices moveing silently, while the Seer practices being aware of his threshold. The sneaker should not try to hide their intent when first learning this - because we want the Seer to pick up on it.

the distance that you recognize people and intent increases over time and practice.

Later excercises involve just projecting intent towards someone to see when the notice it and acknowledge it.

"It's hard to advance freedom in a country that has been strangled by tyranny." - G.W. Bush 04/13/2004

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It's funny, but I've yet to find an answer, or rather a "deep" enough answer for this topic.

Lately it is becoming more apparent. Perhaps because I am focusing and setting my mind-intent on certain future goals. Whatever it is, the 11's and 33's are going off like crazy. When I went to my friend's room to get the matrix cd it was 12:11 with 11% on the progress screen. I watch the movie at 1:11, get back on the computer at 3:33...

The sychronicities go on...I'm sure there are more specific answers that can be given to the symbolic nature (mystical) of prime numbers and their multiples. 33 degree Illuminati brotherhood for example.

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Numbers overall have their symbolic meanings, when you study up on numerology.   1 is the number of beginnings, 2 is the number of partnership, 5 is the number of change, physical pleasures and materialism, 9 is the number of endings, etc. etc., and so on and so forth.  That would be "Numerology 101."    But when it comes to groupings of numbers, and sequences of numbers that follow people around, I think that's personalized / tailored towards the individual.   It has a special meaning, just for that person.     And that's why it's absolutely imperative to start a log like I mentioned earlier to keep track of when, where and under what circumstances one gets their number sighthings.  Without keeping track, I think for many it would be near impossible to figure out the pattern and the hidden meaning behind it these repeated number sightings.  If you want to figure out what your numbers mean, or why you get them at the certain times that you do, why you can have a dry spell with no number sightings, then all of a sudden get a whole cluster in a short time period..........keep a log.    It's really the only way to get to the bottom of this.   Nobody can give you the answers, you have to figure them out for yourself.   At this point in my life, I have the belief that before we incarnated we devised a little "reminder system", using numbers, to remind us of things.  It's up to us to remember what those numbers mean.   Also, I believe that other numbers are the sign of hyperdimensional influence in your reality.  I have direct proof for this in my own personal situation with my own number sightings.   I think in those cases it's either your hyperdimensional manipulators clueing you in to their meddling -- obeying the law of freewill --  or, it's your higher self clueing you in to their involvement.   Either way, SOMEONE'S clueing you in to the hyperdimensional involvement going on in your reality, and it's best to be alert and pay attention and take notes, so you can decipher the little code behind it.    It's not that hard.   Just takes a little bit of effort.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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At this point in my life, I have the belief that before we incarnated we devised a little "reminder system", using numbers, to remind us of things.  It's up to us to remember what those numbers mean.   Also, I believe that other numbers are the sign of hyperdimensional influence in your reality.

Very insightful. I think you are on to something. In regards to it being individualized to the direct person, I disagree, as if we are sharing a soul-pool, this is most likely not the case. Numbers share their symbology to adamics at the same level. Or so I think. The log is very important, indeed, as it is for lucid dreaming, etc, and I will do my best to follow your advice.

In regards to hyperdimensional reality, yes yes yes, I like the way this topic is headed. Very important.

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You say you disagree with the concept of individualized meanings of number sightings, but, then write "as if we are sharing a soul pool."   This contradicts.

Hmm. Well in your former post you said this:

But when it comes to groupings of numbers, and sequences of numbers that follow people around, I think that's personalized / tailored towards the individual.   It has a special meaning, just for that person.

And you have emphasized this point again along with your uncertainty that a soul-pool exists.

I personally think the subconscious along with everything we have described for centuries as the higher-self, exists in multiple forms. One form that governs 3D existence among soul-fragmentation, which could be the most efficient way of experiencing existence from non-existence, is a soul-pool. It's so confusing because this would mean that 3-billion incarnates on earth are part of this soul-pool and that we are all fragmented entities from the same one being, and I'm not speaking of GOD.

So if I believe in this soul-pool idea, then I wouldn't agree with your above statement of 3D tailorized numbers. I think the numbers you see, in any case, are there from hyperdimensional triggers (like you have said) as little signs and road-maps of the MCS for those who are present for soul-pool interaction. I think that all numbers are of the same consequence to the entire adamic soul populace on earth.

Let me finish off with what you said contradicts:

You say you disagree with the concept of individualized meanings of number sightings, but, then write "as if we are sharing a soul pool."   This contradicts.

I think I've cleared it up now, but I believe in individualized meaning that correlates with the same meaning for all individuals that are open to the signs and triggers. Meaning they are observant and watching. What I disagree with is not this but that it is "tailored" to the individual. If there is structure in the Universe and we (or so I think) belong to something that combines us collectively, then MATH as the Universal language would not tailor itself for the fragmented entity but rather be harmonious for the entire Universe...or so I would think. Math does not bend for our means. It is objective.

Thanks for your thoughts Lyra.

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Lyra,

You misunderstood what I was trying to say.   What I was referring to when I said "this contradicts" was your missuse of words which created a statement that contradicted itself.   I wasn't referring to the idea of a soul pool, or my thoughts on number sightings.

You believe number-sightings are tailored to the 3D individual and that ultimately these numbers play their own individual 'note' to you. I believe if there IS a soul-pool, then tailoring is an ILLUSION.

Simple as that Lyra. Either of us could be correct, but there is a dichotomy here. I believe mathematics, to those of a soul-pool (or not) acts to us as gravity holds the universe together. It is the structure itself of conscious existence. Life equals a simple equation, no less.

Anyways, I just wanted to point that out since you seem to be heading a different direction...In regards to my grammar-structure and word-use, I apologize for any misunderstanding. English is my second-language and I tend to ramble with my words since I usually am speaking with those much older and more experienced than myself. However, I believe my points, as to date, have been valid and have been expressed clearly. Again, I apologize for any headaches.

Perhaps you, or others, could privately aid me with corrections for future mishaps?

At this point it's become a total communication error mess, so, I'm just going to let it go.

Total Communication Error Mess? I like that Lyra but did you just get off a roller-coaster ride? I mean, you'd have to be really dizzy to say this! From this mess a dichotomy has arisen (tailored signs = illusion?), so I think all things have a purpose and reason to occur, and this "error mess" has been beneficial.

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Think about synchronicities - sometimes they are close to archetypal. Other times they are specific to the individual. The same should be true for numbers, since they are just a numerical form of synchronicity.

Jung wrote that archetypes express themselves through symbols, and a collection of symbols point toward the essence of the archetype. Some symbols are more pure than others, meaning closer to describing the full essence of the archetype. The reason symbols differ is that the context in which an archetype is interpreted varies from person to person, culture  to culture. It's like a disco ball - a common light source reflecting off the disco ball results in different points of light. But variance in symbols doesn't mean the archetype itself is fragmented.

Synchronicities are meaningful coincidences. Whether a coincidence has meaning depends on its context. Because the context varies, different symbols may be used to get through the same mesage. Some symbols will be closer to the archetype, and therefore more universal (perhaps so universal that you can look them up in a dream dictionary because many different people have this symbol) and other times the symbol is more specific to the individual.

So as far as I see it, I agree with both BlackBox and Lyra. I think archetypes indicate some common soul connection between humans who experience their derivative symbols, but that symbols themselves can vary from purely specific to culturally universal depending on the context in which the archetype arises. Whatever works best.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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Montalk,

I think archetypes indicate some common soul connection between humans who experience their derivative symbols, but that symbols themselves can vary from purely specific to culturally universal depending on the context in which the archetype arises.

We're all pretty much talking about the same thing, I agree, but I think this leads to more thinking on the subject. Like I need to answer a question in regards to having faith in regards to the "adamic" soul-pool. I want to discuss it as an experiment itself, without putting left-brain limitation on what ideas may flourish.

To do this, we play out the null hypothesis as being WE (it's an experiment so who cares if it's not accurate in regards to who 'we' indicates) are part of the adamic soul-pool. The adamic soul-pool is a bad name for what is a higher-entity that exists as collective consciousness of all adamic souls. Adamic humans are all fragmented souls from the adamic soul-pool (let's call it BOB?). Crumbs of the cookie. Through networking we circulate energy and encouragement that aids our will to not break, but bend our programming to our soul's entrainment.

Anyways, with this as the null hypothesis, the Universal "dream dictionary" is in fact a product and effect of the virtue of structural objectivity. Creation out of nothingness. Duality of the two.

Two things stand in the way of the "universal" idea. One is the subconscious illusion of manifesting what you "want" to see. It often seems to be the plot of a movie or two and I think it is pretty relevant to at least give it some merit. The other thing is that if we allow the counter-null hypothesis of "tailoring of numbers for the individualized 3D entity" which is in fact simply a fragment which fills the space (matter) for a purpose of 3D experience, then tailoring implies that every individual will have his or her own things that come out to "wake her up". I agree with this but I think it's because it's a very confusing topic. I think just the thought of this is indication enough of the "thought = matter" and "ALL attempts have probability of success" to the extremes, allows so many parallels as there is no limit to the hard-drive of existence. I think limitations involve the "physicality factor", and past 4th density, no such thoughts need be relevant.

Anyways, just wanted to suggest this type of train-thoughts to actually network purposefully. I need to either find out if one of these null-hypothesis(s) are fallacious or if they are both correct and perhaps blind to us due to 3D limitational perspective. I can't, until some deduction occurs, agree that "tailoring" occurs. The Adamic Soul-Pool, if existent, indicates our higher-function and our group-mind collective. Regardless if we rebel now due to ignorance, if this null hypothesis is correct, for adamics alike, more sleep, smarter thinking, and ultimate YCYOR philosophy will bring our societies and generations whatever we wish to concentrate/focus our energies. It is as simple as that. Or so I think.

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BlackBox wrote:
"I agree with this but I think it's because it's a very confusing topic."

Are you saying that you agree with what Montalk said BECAUSE it's a confusing topic?  I'm a bit unclear here.

I was following your post until it hit this part and then you lost me.

Also, could you define how you are using the word "Adamic."  I found several very differing definitions and I'm not clear on this.

Thank you BlackBox - I have the feeling this is a very important topic but I can't quite wrap my wits around it because first of all there is some confusion just in the sentences and definitions for me. 

So, if you wouldn't mind going over it again...in littler steps, I'd appreciate it.

Christine B.

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Christine,

No problem. Like Lyra has said, I often may speak in a confusing manner. Perhaps it's because I am presumptious of the audience due to hopping from different forums for the past few months.

Do you need the C-transcripts in regards to Adamic / Pre-Adamic background?

Simply put, the "Fall of Eden", when Eve took the apple.

Now that tale is symbolic of a group-mind 3D STO collective (the reverse of what we are, which is STS, Service to Self. The biggest example of our current destructive way of life is a black-hole) took the "apple". The female counter-part (hope there are no feminists around...:( ) was seduced (as I can recall) and the male was brought down to the depths of heavy physicality alongside the female.

Collectively we do not share this type of connection as we did before. We acquire amnesia, 99.999% of the time just from birth alone. I do not believe birth occurs in the same manner in STO existence. I do not believe Female and Male counterparts are even divided. Very odd for someone used to McDonalds and The Simpsons. smile

Adamics live under this environment. We are right-brained "drivers" of these human bodies. We are are much more in totality, and hence our purpose is more elaborate and webbed than the other 3-billion lives upon this earth. We equal into a higher-consciousness that is maturing and evolving with every experience and learnt lesson from it's fragmented scouts (John, Victor, etc etc). One under these principles must understand that Time does NOT exist and IS an illusion in objective reality, however by the virtue of subjectivity, where beauty and emotions are given their time to shine, time is as heavy as gravity. One under these principles will then understand that all karmic events are due to one half-objectivity and one half-subjectivity. Like the entire equation basically equals 'black = white'. For everything that is important, ultimately it is valued as highly as that which is NOT important. It's all a matter of perspective and attachment.

Adamics can understand these principles, innately and after study of course, but Organic Portals do not. It is not that OP's are dangerous or vampire-like brothers and sisters of the human race, but that they are not living under their natural purpose of a 2nd density-bridge (This means when a bird or dog (all 2nd density life) learns all it can in 2nd Density, it moves up to Human or alike existence). They are acting as the DOMINANT minds and powers-that-be that influence society as to limit those of us who are of a different purpose. They do this not of their accord. It is not of their fault. They are being manipulated as mindless sheep against us. We are not so much 'mindless' because we exercise will-power via the confidence that is given by resonation of intuition.

Adamics simply vibrate their FRV's (frequency resonance vibration) at a rate that is open to bending rules and allowing equality of speech. Not because it is RIGHT but because for all importance that must be given to rules, there must be an equal value of importance put into that which exists outside the jurisidiction of rules, and hence limitation.

For Adamics, knowing that we are truly fragments/fractions, collectively summing up to the eternal existence of a higher-self, we are simply NOT alone. Even though this is a subjective topic, to discuss emotional values such as desperation of expression, etc etc, it is still a nice thing to know. Organic Portals would not even care when reading a paragraph like this. They would sneer. They would repel. But this is natural and I have nooooo problem with this. Filtering is always a blessing.

BlackBox wrote:
"I agree with this but I think it's because it's a very confusing topic."

Are you saying that you agree with what Montalk said BECAUSE it's a confusing topic?  I'm a bit unclear here.

Sorry about that. I knew that I wrote that a bit too fast. It's that I'm trying to imply that I agree with his logic, but that is because it is very logical to think philosophically, get "influenced", and agree to all sides. What I'm trying to say is that the Universe creates all thought. All thought, even that of which a kid thinks up, day-dreaming away while eating a sparkling vanilla 2-scoup sunday, is MANIFESTED and CREATED IF focused and concentrated. Perhaps the concentration needed is already supplied at the point of thought...but WHO can really be determinate in discussing such things? In our society, such topics end with dismal results. Nothing progressive. AS intended by the controlling system that keeps us sheep aligned with negatively resonated vibrations responding in correspondence with our positive vibrations of ambitions and hopes, and therefore continually feed the system with energy by loops.

I ramble and I hate it sometimes, but I am no Dhalai Llama and I can only express what I can through the language we are given. The medium is only so wide and flowing. I may sound insane to one man and inspirational to the next. Who knows?

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BlackBox, if I understand you correctly, you're attempting to investigate the possibility of mankind sharing a common soul pool at some higher level of metaphysical reality? And how this relates to synchronicities being universal?

I can follow that much, but you lost me in other parts of your last post. Language has its limitations, but through analogies and less formal phrasing you can be like McGuyver and be very resourceful with the limits of what you have. The limits of language is in how complicatedly you can phrase something. The limits of your wit is in how concisely and clearly you can phrase something wink

That aside, here is some additional info on the term "adamics" so that we're all on the same page:

Background:

"Adamic Man" and "Pre-Adamic Man" are terms invented by Boris Mouravieff (French philosopher and historian) to describe two types of humans.

These terms are derived from the Book of Genesis, which says that God first created earth, plants, animals and man, then later created Adam and Eve. This suggests a difference between pre-existing humans and Adam/Eve. The difference, according to the Bible, is that Adam/Eve and their descendants contained the breath of God, the divine spark of individualized consciousness also known as spirit. Other humans before them did not have spirit, only souls and bodies.

Therefore, "adamics" implies divine heritage, while "pre-adamics" implies something else. These two types of humans presently exist side by side in society and even within the same family.

As currently used, the terms mean the following:

pre-Adamics - those with souls and bodies, whose souls are extensions or recent graduates of 2nd Density. Those who are extensions are known as Organic Portals, and those who are recent graduates are beginning their evolution toward inheriting the divine spark of individualized consciousness.

Adamics - those with spirit, soul, and body. They are humans who "fell" into 3rd density STS from a once higher state. From the beginning of human existence, they always contained the divine spark of individualized consciousness, but after the "fall" they fell asleep and became little different from pre-Adamics.

It is toward Adamics that many schools and methods of spiritual evolution are directed, to wake up their higher chakras and help them regain their former power and awareness. Pre-Adamics are for the most part hopeless because there's nothing in them to "awaken." There are also Adamics who are so asleep that they cannot be awoken either.

For the most part, the Adamics in this world (half of humanity according to Mouravieff and the C's) are now no better than pre-Adamics as far as the decency of their behavior goes.  So I disagree with BlackBox saying "Adamics simply vibrate their FRV's (frequency resonance vibration) at a rate that is open to bending rules" -- I think this is only the case for those Adamics who make use of their divine abilities.

So now the question is - do Adamics share a common soul pool? If they have a common divine origin, how strong is the link between one Adamic person and another? This relates back to the universality of synchronistic symbols and numbers.

Here's a good link addressing this subject:

http://www.uppertriad.org/Volume1/jfset140.htm

There it talks about soul groups versus group souls. I think it's an important distinction. Don't have time right now to post excerpts, but will add them later.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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montalk wrote:

   I can follow that much, but you lost me in other parts of your last post. Language has its limitations, but through analogies and less formal phrasing you can be like McGuyver and be very resourceful with the limits of what you have. The limits of language is in how complicatedly you can phrase something. The limits of your wit is in how concisely and clearly you can phrase something wink

Amen.    Over complicating sentences seems to be an issue.  In an effort to sound super intellectual. the end result often seems to be a convoluted mess.

And thank you as well for the clarification of what Adamic man is all about.  It's very helpful for those members who don't have the background in this termonology.............which had already been pointed out before.  (ahem, cough cough)

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BlackBox, it is a complicated subject, especially when attempting to consider the seeming all/one dichotomy. As an example of one cultural interpretation, that your comments made me think of, I found this:

The teachers of the Quetzal-al-Coatl-Atl Temple said:

Unification of the Self is the human's greatest healing. The Higher Self brings Pure Intellect from all higher numbers where the Higher Self dwells. The Higher Self is the balance of energy.

The teachers of the Temple of Chim-Atl-Lan-Helan said:

Madness results when humans are not present with their bodies and with Life. To be completely separated from the Self and totally separated from the presence of Life results in madness. Humans who have gone mad are separated from Life's energies and do not know how they relate to existence.

The Zero Chiefs of of old teach us that Ten is Intellect and Measure---the measure of all existence. Every human has the potential to measure Life and thought, and to reason,  because Creation has created Pure Intellect; this is our Ten.
     
To evolve and become a higher being, within Essence, is the Challenge for every Spirit born into Substance.

The Pure Intellect knows that Life is not long. Spirit does not fear Death. Pure Intellect is Spirit and is Deathless.

The center force of the Medicine Wheel can also be seen when we look at the example we have from the early Greeks. In this way we can understand the thinking of our Chiefs here in the Americas.

Ancient names within teaching stories like Psyche ("Circle") and Cupid ("Cube") described the the center force of the Wheel. The Circle and the Cube describe the ideas and realizations discovered through Mathematics.

It should not come as a suprise that Spirit and Substance were thought to have "fallen in love" as Psyche and Cupid.

Psyche is the beautiful Goddess. She is the Circle or Sphere. Cupid is the beautiful
God. He is the Cube or Square.

Like WahKahn and SsKwan, every angle or mathematical formula is born from the Sphere and the Cube, the Circle and the Square. This is Psyche-Circle and Cupid-Cube.

When they are centered in the Self, humans are a "true Five" according to the Zero Chiefs. A 5 person will consider all things from a five Self point of view first.

Sexuality is one. There are people who are driven by their sexuality; they place one before five.

For the Centered human, sexuality begins with the five.

Both figures express themselves in the Present, the six. But the approach, and the result, are very different.

It must be remembered that hundreds of combinations exist as relationships among the Numbers, but here are several:

A 2 + 5 (Will plus Self) person is not the same kind of being as a 5 + 2, a person who is centered in the Self first.

The woman or man who places emotions first, 3 + 5, is not a balanced person. It is better to be a 5 + 3.

When the equation is 4 + 5, instead of the 4 being courage, it becomes fear or rage. It is better to be a 5 + 4--- a human plus courage.

As you can see, placing the Self, 5, first is very important.

                                                                              Source: H. Storm


So the concept of facets, or number aspects, which are rarefactions of Pure Intellect/ Math/ Number, correspond to the Higher Self, and "adamics", or humans,
(as defined for this expirement purpose here), who are individualized identities with unique combinations of numbers manifested as substance.

Thus each human and his individual created form is a particular variegated creation and will percieve his numbers symbols and synchronicites in a unique way. So each one can be a human, or adamic, yet quite different type of being from other humans.

The Higher Self is Pure Intellect, but individual synchronistic expressions of number are our Selves. Numbers not as divisible fragments, synchronicities not as tailored, but as indestructible essential Essences created, drawn, "brought forth" by the Creator as indissoluble, unique and eternal.

                                                                            sedna

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Apparently I was writing this at the same time as y'all were posting, so I missed your further comments BlackBox, and I missed Tom's explanation of adamics and the link there, so please disregard my equating all humans with adamics. Also, I would have responded differently if I had seen some of your other comments.

                                                                                 sedna

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BlackBox, if I understand you correctly, you're attempting to investigate the possibility of mankind sharing a common soul pool at some higher level of metaphysical reality? And how this relates to synchronicities being universal?

I can follow that much, but you lost me in other parts of your last post. Language has its limitations, but through analogies and less formal phrasing you can be like McGuyver and be very resourceful with the limits of what you have. The limits of language is in how complicatedly you can phrase something. The limits of your wit is in how concisely and clearly you can phrase something.

Precisely. I admit my communication needs work but everything has been expressed properly and now the topic hits higher importance with others responding to my post. Like I said, I feel sometimes awkward as I know that my words sometimes ramble but ultimately I will learn and these errors and mistakes will diminish. I promise you all this! Especially with the lineup of books I have ready to read! smile

So now the question is - do Adamics share a common soul pool? If they have a common divine origin, how strong is the link between one Adamic person and another? This relates back to the universality of synchronistic symbols and numbers.

I'll read the article you linked to. In mid-exams right now, but I just wanted to note that this is exactly where I am going with my thoughts.

And....I'm not arguing with you about this.   This isn't even an issue.   I already mentioned two posts ago that I don't have definitive proof either way regarding whether or not we belong to a soul group, so, who knows, you could very well be right.  I did say this, so why you're "shouting" at me with capital letters that you believe tailoring is an "ILLUSION"   !!!  is beyond me, since I'm not even debating that, nor did my last post to you even address this issue.  (my last post concerned confusion with the way many of your posts are written.)   So I'm not sure where this is coming from.

I think you misunderstand me lyra. Personally I enjoy debating with you. But do not act like a victim at times as it does not suit anyone to do so here, as you have said recently. In regards to what you said and what you didn't, you're the one that is confusing the issue now. Check the posts. I understand you allowed the possibility for the reverse and I would never consider you ignorant. You are intelligent and articulate. My communication will become more effective and efficient from discussions with people like you.

To evolve and become a higher being, within Essence, is the Challenge for every Spirit born into Substance.

Sedna, thank you very much for your resourceful response. I think you are touching at one of the core factors right there. I think maybe the "challenge" being accepted by the "will" of the adamic fragment (individual) already creates, in the non-linear equation, the products that create the soul-pool. I hope you get what I'm trying to say, because I have a hell of a time. tongue

In the SAME way that non-linear dynamics work in this thought of mine:

Linear existence allows consciousness of progression. Separation of existence to be divided between 3 states. Present, Past and Future. Pretty basic stuff right?

Well humans tend to speak in regards of so much that is essentially diverting topics (ie. smoke) that many of us do not realize that the "gods" that manipulate us, the beings that control us like sheep as we do our own sheep, they are US in the future. Beings that exist above our state of consciousness live OUTSIDE time.

Imagine dying...not a nice thought, but if one did die, he or she would transition to the 5th Density. This is the recycling zone of existence. Souls may progress through the learning curve and reflect and review via the 5th Density. But what if the soul has just graduated 3rd grade?

What happens when one finishes grade 3? Easy, they go to grade 4. Yet ALL of this occurs in NON-LINEAR existence. This means that in linear-perception the grade 4's already have progressed up the entire learning curve and become one with the big bang and all of which that represents. Past human-like existence (3D), experiences and lessons NEVER occur in the same manner. When the curtain of time falls, everything occurs simultaneously. Separation of thought and matter is no longer divided by gravity but rather our perception changes to see thought and matter as precisely the same thing. Hah!

Now the reason I brought this whole thing up was in regards to your last statement: To evolve and become a higher being, within Essence, is the Challenge for every Spirit born into Substance. I wanted to note that if the above is true (I dont mean your statement), then the challenge itself in 3D form is representing the construction or installation of the program or whatever mode of creation one is using. This MEANS that the creations, the actual manifestations occur at the same time of the initiation. At that point, perhaps parallel realities are created as symbolisms of the different choices one could make. We are discussing a webbed topic, so we must stumble a lot to get around to the main points we are implying. Just like the creation of ALL EXISTENCE is created in reverse (7 to 6 to 5...to 1) and TIME is created once perception is lower than 50% of the learning curve.

Anyways, I hope you see where these thoughts head. I appreciate all your thoughts and enjoy where it is headed.

The Higher Self is Pure Intellect, but individual synchronistic expressions of number are our Selves. Numbers not as divisible fragments, synchronicities not as tailored, but as indestructible essential Essences created, drawn, "brought forth" by the Creator as indissoluble, unique and eternal.

I smell a haiku-poem coming tongue

Oh and this is officially the 33rd reply in regards to this thread! smile Muahahhaha