Topic: Noble Realms Across America

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lyra wrote:

Hi Auendove,

...  I'm sitting here now frowning at my computer.   I had no idea about food stamps now being in the form of plastic.   That's pretty much right up there with the Visa Paycheck Card.    They really are - literally - trying to corrall us into a situation of "Get the mark, or starve!"    Just like the C's said.     And yes, you're right....What in the hell does VISA have to do with a bank's ATM / debit card?!?   I've thought the same thing!     And thanks for reminding us about those damn grocery store discount cards.     Forgot to include them in my list of other examples of all the cards we have.   That's a BIG one.   

God, last night I was pacing around, asking rhetorical questions like, "What can we DO about all of this???    What can the public do to STOP this?!?!   !!!"   The Paycheck card thing to me was the last straw.   That's too much.   And I realized that Joe Public wouldn't do anything.    Why?   Because the majority of the people actually truly LIKE having everything in plastic form because "It's Convenient!"  They will argue for it.   We have a nation of lazy people.    The Lizzies / Brotherhood / Illuminati / Anti-Christ has played society like a complicated chess game, always thinking 30 moves ahead.....I've been saying this for a long time.   Through a long series of moves spanning over the past few decades, they now have a nation of passive lazy people who don't want to have to THINK too much.    There's more than one reason behind everything they do, all of their agendas.   

So ---   unless it was a VERY convincing, VERY effective, MASS campaign on a nationwide scale, nothing could be done to sway Joe Public's opinion on the matter and instigate a mass rebellion.   Mailers, fliers distributed in public, door to door, internet, T.V. ads, college campuses.....it's a HUGE endeavor.    HUGE.    We have over 250 million people in this nation who would need the "Cashless Society For Dummies" crash course.  It would require a lot of manpower, and supplies, (brochures, leaflets, etc.)  a lot of political door knocking and letter writing and campaigning to Those Who Make the Laws, most of whom are probably agents of the MCS, as well as a crash course to inform the volunteers of the campaign of what they're up against.......The Matrix Control System.    You are up against those who are pawns of the MCS, you will face ridicule, you will face people who will argue FOR the System until they're blue in the face, even though it quite obviously screws them over.   Why?   Because many times, they're probably not even "real".   Realize that, have a thick skin, and don't give up!!  Press forward, distribute, inform, and "do it for the real people"  !

Man, I WISH this could be done.  I'll be the spear header.   Anybody game???   Seriously.....hmmm.....my wheels are spinning.  Give me the impossible mountain to climb, and I'm there!   Auendove, we'll take your "Noble Realms Across America" idea and put a few new spin on it and make it our campaign title.

It's been almost a week since you've written this post. Have you thought about it much? Are you still game, still wish it could be done, and wanting to be the spear header? Any or all of the aforementioned apply? I'm game to at least explore the possibilities, at least thinking about climbing that mountain... it's a pretty darn big mountain, bigger than Everest lyra big_smile, though not insurmountable.

I do have more to say about this, but I'll wait and see where you're at before I go any further because I have my own idea about "Noble Realms Across America" I've been mulling over since I brought it up. I'm still in the thought process myself of how I would like to "blossom" the concept of "Noble Realms Across America" to lay down some change in "real time", utilizing the knowledge, insight, and experience base that prevails in this realm wink. The possibility of what I'm thinking about is so grand I'm having to take this much time to consider how I go from what I've got sitting in my chair, little ole me, to something grand enough to promote consciousness raising. I guess we all have our mountains to bear... oops, I mean climb. smile

I'm really pleased you like the term. It is a multi-faceted concept as I see it, therefore it has potential... let if flow!

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Hi Auendove...

Quick reply since I'm at work and have to actually.........gulp!........work!!   AHHH!  big_smile  big_smile  hehe   But quick reply.........I've been giving this more thought as well and I realized...........why fight the onset of a cash-less society when the fundamentals of our monetary system / the Federal Reserve, are corrupt to begin with?   

Forget fighting the cashless society...............What's the point when we have nothing backing that paper money to begin with?   There needs to be a demand by the people to have money backed by something.   Our paper money is worthless.   Back to the gold / silver standard, I say!    There needs to be a push towards bartering.  There needs to be a push towards no credit.  People need to be "retrained" to stop purchasing items on credit cards.   There needs to be a demand to have an actual functional money system backed by something of value.

A lot easier said than done, of course.  wink

But those are my random ideas.   Good luck, I know.   But it's actually more do-able than the original idea I think.   (Dodging the assasination bullets notwithstanding.  wink  )   It's more narrow and focused.

Gotta run, let me know what you think..............

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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ps

Or is this all just too much focus on 3D illusion?   Should we just give it up and focus instead on more spiritual / 4D STO stuff?

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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4 (edited by Auendove 2004-10-12 09:58:03)

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lyra wrote:

Quick reply since I'm at work and have to actually.........gulp!........work!!   AHHH!      hehe

   

Congratulations on the job! I hope it's okay for you.

lyra wrote:

(Dodging the assasination bullets notwithstanding.    )

Yeah, you're going to be doing nobody any good up in "heaven" with nothing better to do than whistle "Only the Good Die Young"! Going about the huge task you're talking about undertaking... well, forget about facing a mountain, you'll be swimming head on into a barrelling tsunami, looking to create a sea-change... I'm concerned you may get creamed. smile
 

lyra wrote:

Or is this all just too much focus on 3D illusion?   Should we just give it up and focus instead on more spiritual / 4D STO stuff?

How about stradling the boundary line between the two?

My idea focuses on a "Noble Realms Across America" Anthology, or anthologies actually. Rock solid publications that expose the NWO agenda, as well as those cretin bastard 4D/5D STS forces. You like to write, I like to write, there's a fine collection of great writers that are NR members... but even more importantly there's already a mountain of information printed as we put our heads together on this today... the information needs to be combed through, prioritized, edited, reintroduced for further forum discussion, reedited and published (plus many other steps). It would be a group effort, and as one who has always felt compelled to write a darn book roll, I have in the past year felt even more compelled to believe that in its most effective form it will be of a shared effort.

Anyway, I gotta run this time! I'll get back with you later, more about what you've written about cash and a functional money system and how that would dovetail into my idea. What do you think about this? Could this become our idea?

It feels good to finally put this out there, I've certainly been wanting to. wink It feels even better to know somebody may actually want to work with me!

BTW--I haven't breathed a word one to montalk about this yet, maybe I should give him a little knock-knock heads-up and see what he thinks. big_smile

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

5 (edited by Auendove 2004-10-12 10:03:47)

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PS to you too...=D

If you are totally adverse to something like I've described lyra, pulications, please wait to dismiss the idea altogether until I can 'splain some more, okay?

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Auendove,

Regarding an anthology of lid-blowing info, one phrase goes through my head: "all in good time". I think it's a great idea, but there's a stretch of road until we get there. Small steps ensures steady progress, right?

In the Announcements section, there's discussion about expanding NR to include, among other things, a wiki (web encyclopedia anyone can add to). That would be the first step, I think. Then an anthology pretty much writes itself over time.

Let's see what others have to say about this idea.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

7 (edited by Auendove 2004-10-12 11:26:51)

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montalk wrote:

Regarding an anthology of lid-blowing info, one phrase goes through my head: "all in good time". I think it's a great idea, but there's a stretch of road until we get there. Small steps ensures steady progress, right?

I agree, I've thought about this before, and was just thinking about it a bit ago. My enthusiam is undeniable, but not an overwhelming factor. As I wrote, being involved in the publication of a book is a goal for me, I'm just so attached to and impressed with NR and see it's value, so it's not a stretch for me to look it's way <wink>.

montalk wrote:

In the Announcements section, there's discussion about expanding NR to include, among other things, a wiki (web encyclopedia anyone can add to). That would be the first step, I think. Then an anthology pretty much writes itself over time.

Okay, I see how with the wiki the information is provided for free, this is of course a "greater" idea than what I suggest, what I'm talking about would generate income, and this is probably really the major difference. Generating an income is second best only to sharing. big_smile

montalk wrote:

Let's see what others have to say about this idea.

Good enough. wink

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Maybe a screenplay or movie?

If there is no time
      Then you have time for everything.
   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.

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I'll help.  Do you have a series of topics/chapters figured out? 

Some ideas:
Another potential step in this process might be a FAQ for this site which then grows into a wiki.  Ebooks can be free, or you can charge for them.  You could also do an ebook in conjunction with a wiki. Use each to promote the other.

Affiliate programs are a potential way to make money.  For example, you can sign on with some online bookstores to sell other relavent books through your ebook.  You make a little money when someone buys another book through your link.

Kathy

Never Give Up!

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Selling a collaboratively-made book would be difficult, ethically-wise.

In case you don't know this: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Main_Page

I'll also be happy to help... I write a lot and have quite a few notes to share.

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ermolai wrote:

Selling a collaboratively-made book would be difficult, ethically-wise.

Let me assure you my intentions were ethical.

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
------
If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Well, here's my several cents worth on this very interesting topic. Firstly, although this thread's title is "Noble Realms Across America", you should realize that this is not exclusively an American problem. It is a problem affecting many other countries, especially within the wealthier Western European nations (Great Britain, France, Germany, etc). In order to effectively combat this situation, you'd have to extend your influence into these areas also.

To attempt such an undertaking would require a high level of coordination and organization. Writing a book is all very well and good, but how many people really read books anymore? If you seriously expect anyone to listen to you, if you really desire to affect change, you'd need to place yourself firmly within the public spotlight. Human beings are dumb, stupid, fearful animals who will only listen to people with some form of perceived "authority". Unfortunately, this means getting your hands dirty within the world of politics. Sorry, I know it's a nasty word with some extremely unpleasant connotations, but this is the territory into which you would be venturing here.

This is definitely not a subject to be taken lightly, however. In today's world, and especially in today's America, even attempting to disseminate such information to the general populace could put your life in very real and present danger. You, as a person, mean nothing to The Powers That Be. You are a number, a taxpayer, a proletarian, a slave; nothing more. It's very easy to make individuals or even families disappear. They have removed Presidents in the past for committing similar "offences", so they certainly wouldn't face any problems in removing you. Strength in numbers would be the only real safeguard.

There are many other problems, however. You're not just fighting against the system here, or against the elite financial cabal that presently controls the monetary supplies of just about every nation upon the earth, you are also fighting against human nature itself. Most people today are living under some very deeply ingrained illusions about the world's financial system, namely that the present day system of slowly converting to a cashless society is much more secure and convenient than anything that has come before it. If you even attempt to change this belief without presenting some water tight arguments in your defense, they will simply say that you are fighting "progress" and ignore you. As Lyra stated, most people actually like having everything in plastic form. People want progress, even if that only amounts to improved means to unimproved ends.

The only way to get the herd to come across to your way of thinking would be to explain what's wrong with the present system, why such flaws exist, and then offer a better solution. You can't be subtle about it, either: You'd have to be direct, to-the-point, and very in-your-face. If what you are saying to people about this doesn't upset them, at least initially, then you are not getting through. This is because the essence of your argument would have to be something like, "You are being f*cked. The money that you have tirelessly traded your time for, and into which your have invested all of your hopes and dreams for the future, is absolutely and utterly worthless." Even if you recognize that people need to hear this, they are not going to want to hear it. It flies directly in the face of the life lie that they are living.

It is a very noble undertaking, but very hard and very risky, and no one is going to thank you for it. I'm all for it :-)

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

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Hi all,

Neomatrix is right.  Those were my thoughts exactly.  For starters, I wasn't thinking in terms of writing a book.  I really have no interest in writing a book (anymore....)   If I ever did write one I think I would do an E-book, that's just the way to go nowadays.  But even then, I have no plans in the works for that.  As far as getting out there in the spotlight...that's exactly what I was thinking about, although I get a little "spotlight shy" to say the least.  But that is what I was originally picturing.   Hitting the pavement and "spreading the word".   

But the fact is, that costs money, which I don't have, it costs time,  and like I mentioned before, and Neomatrix mentioned here....the Powers That Be would take anybody like that out in a second.   They've removed presidents, they'll remove regular people. 

Also, nowadays to do such things gets one labled a "Terrorist."   The mere mention of going against an ingrained "American System" is cause enough to have the Patriot Act Police / TIPS snoopers /Homeland Security kicking in the front door.   That's what this nation is becoming, unfortunately.  We're becoming the former Soviet Union.  Give it another 10 years and that's where we'll be.   

So at this point, I'm not sure what to do.  Something needs to be done, but like Neomatrix said, we're up against a super powerful long standing cabal of intertwined power...that runs the WORLD.    How in the frickity frackity can anybody even begin tackling that?    Even despite all the books that have come out on this same subject and related matters, (Jim Marrs, David Icke, William Bramley, et al) and all the websites and all the information exchange....nothing has changed.   The system is still chugging along on schedule, as planned.   Those books and websites don't seem to have changed anything.   Unless I'm being too cynical. 

I think of people like Gandhi, one person who changed an entire nation, but the fact is, we don't live in that world anymore.  He could do what he did because it was that time period.  Nowadays, its black helicopters, Homeland Security, assassinations, troublesome people "committing suicide" or "mysteriously disappearing", government agents, life in prison with no parole, etc. etc.   It's not the same world.

I don't know.  I've had this itch for years now to "do something", anytime I see another NWO injustice being slipped in on us.  I see it, it bothers me, I get stirred up inside, I want to do something, and all I *can* do is rebel in my own piddly little way within my own little reality, like not having a bank account, not having credit cards, insisting on cash money all the time, no plastic, not owning a t.v., not having a cell phone.   Etc.  But it's not enough for me.   I want to go bigger and affect what's out THERE.   Not just here, in this little reality.   But I also always felt like it's just too big and there's no way to tackle it.  And the thing I'm rebelling against....has gotten way bigger people killed.   JFK was assasinated in 1963.  One year later, once he was out of the way and it was free and clear, the Federal Reserve officially did away with the silver standard and we've been on a financial downward spiral ever since.    That's heavy duty stuff.   I'm sure it's not the only reason he was killed.   Vietnam probably had a lot to do with it too.   (understatement.)   But it was certainly one of many things he was "interfering with."   They wanted Vietnam.   They wanted to have money backed by nothing.  He was an obstruction.  Buh bye. 

sigh.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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manyeagles wrote:

Maybe a screenplay or movie?

I thought about this many times. I think making a movie with a specific message would be a good way to reach a lot of people. But it would have to be really well done, because no one is going to pay much attention to a bad movie.

Here's my idea for a screenplay that I've considered writing: It would basically be a better version of the original Matrix movie but with more specific symbols instead of vague symbols that can interpreted to fit anything you want. It would basically be about someone who's very absorbed into 3D material life suddenly 'waking up' and seeing what's going on in the world: that most politicians are puppets, that there may be alien life visiting us and that this alien life may be orchestrating human events behind the scenes, using world leaders as their puppets. There would also be a spiritual aspect to the movie and include scenes of OBEs and past-life memories.

I don't know how much of this could be said outright in a movie and still be released into theaters by a major movie corporation. Some things would have to be implied and never said outright probably but that's what always bugged me about the Matrx et al. Those types of movies always skirted around the issue and dropped hints but never said outright what the hell is going on.

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lyra wrote:

Even despite all the books that have come out on this same subject and related matters, (Jim Marrs, David Icke, William Bramley, et al) and all the websites and all the information exchange....nothing has changed.   The system is still chugging along on schedule, as planned.   Those books and websites don't seem to have changed anything.   Unless I'm being too cynical.

No, you're being realistic; there's a difference. When I said on another thread--I think it was in response to a post by moralman asking for opinions on what'll happen between now and 2012--that I fully expect that by 2012 we'll all be living within the New World Order, it's not because I was being deliberately cynical or pessimistic. Not at all. I was simply being realistic, forming an opinion based upon the actions of human beings in the past. It isn't so much a case that TPTB are too powerful to overthrow, but rather that your everyday Joe and Jane Public *think* that they are too powerless to attempt to do so. Hence, they won't get off of their collective butts to change a damned thing, even if they *are* aware of it. If I am to be wrong about my prediction, I honestly think it will take an event at least 1,000 times worse than 9/11 to really affect such a dramatic change. Humanity is not proactive, it is reactive. The blood of millions would have to be spilled before anything will change here. It is always nice to be idealistic, though, even in the face of such brutal realism. Idealism isn't childishly naive, like some people think, it is simply childishly innocent. To me, that is a very good thing, albeit seriously lacking in today's world :-(

lyra wrote:

I don't know.  I've had this itch for years now to "do something", anytime I see another NWO injustice being slipped in on us.  I see it, it bothers me, I get stirred up inside, I want to do something, and all I *can* do is rebel in my own piddly little way within my own little reality, like not having a bank account, not having credit cards, insisting on cash money all the time, no plastic, not owning a t.v., not having a cell phone.   Etc.  But it's not enough for me.   I want to go bigger and affect what's out THERE.

This is a perfectly natural desire for anyone who still qualifies as a thinking, feeling, self-aware human being. I think that perhaps we have a residual need to try and change third density reality into something more akin to that which we experience within the higher densities, where thoughts can and do manifest reality. Maybe?

lyra wrote:

JFK was assasinated in 1963.  One year later, once he was out of the way and it was free and clear, the Federal Reserve officially did away with the silver standard and we've been on a financial downward spiral ever since.    That's heavy duty stuff.   I'm sure it's not the only reason he was killed.   Vietnam probably had a lot to do with it too.   (understatement.)   But it was certainly one of many things he was "interfering with."   They wanted Vietnam.   They wanted to have money backed by nothing.  He was an obstruction.  Buh bye.

When Lee Harvey Oswald's wife, Marina, was asked who killed Kennedy, she simply replied: "The Federal Reserve." They removed him because he tried to put interest-free, Government printed money into circulation.  The Elite didn't like that; it would decrease the US deficit and they'd lose interest payments. He also wanted to change the oil-depletion allowance, which pissed off the Wall Street power brokers.

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe