Stuart Wilde/ghouls/yoga (Page 1 of 6)

Hi Christine,

As someone who's visited Santa Fe twice, and NM / AZ in general several times, I can vouch for your observation.      I noticed that in the southwest, the people are so incredibly blank.  I wanted to move there because of the scenary / climate, but then I realized I don't think I could ever deal with those people.   When you pass through the small towns it's even weirder.   REALLY strange.   

On a sidenote, I visited a place called Chaco Canyon in New Mexico back in 1999, and got violently ill while I was there, some of the worst sick I've ever been.  Now, I may have eaten some bad food beforehand, as we were traveling around and eating in restaurants.   There was supposed to be a shipment of orange juice delivered to the Reservations that was contaminated with salmonella, and the day before we went to Chaco, I drank some OJ at a Reservation.    But I don't know for sure if that's what I had, or how long it takes for salmonella to kick in.  Does it take a full 24 hours??    That's the question.  At any rate, we showed up to Chaco, and that's when I started getting sick.  As we began walking around the ruins, in and out of the remains of the structures, I got progressively more and more sick.  I felt like my life force was literally being drained from me.  I could barely stand up.  It wound up getting so bad I had to give it up and went back to the car.  By now I had a really high fever, I could barely stay awake, and I had severe intestinal problems.

While I was resting back at the car I read a free issue of Archaelogy Magazine we had gotten from the main museum building thing there at Chaco, which had a cover story about Chaco Canyon.   As I read the story, I came to find out that Chaco in its hayday circa 1000 - 1200 AD was a site for mass slaughter and cannibalism.   Archaelogists had uncovered the remains of hundreds of human skulls, many babies, which had been roasted on a fire.  Other human remains indicated abuse as well as cannibalism.

I didn't know this though back when I was walking around through all these structure remains.  I was walking on a spot where thousands of people had been tortured and killed and eaten.   Funny enough, my sickness didn't peter out until about 3 days later, which means I was still really ill as we walked around Santa Fe and plaza area.   So I can relate to your story about being ill in Santa Fe.     Maybe my sudden and violent onset of sickness was coincidence and caused by salmonella which just so happened to strategically kick in as we got to Chaco, who knows.  But it's REALLY weird.

Will check out those Stuart Wilde articles too, thanks for posting the link.

Cameron.  Thank you for this reply.  I like the balance you bring!! 

Stuart can sometimes get a bit dogmatic with his non-dogma <grin>.  I've noticed a huge change in him after he went to Brazil and did 2 or 3 Ayahusca "voyages".  It might only be a coincidence but to me that marked a change.
And as far as I can tell...rather than being the "perfect" voyage as he claims and promotes to others, it - like everything else - has a very negative potential.  So, while I like him very much, I don't take everything he says whole cloth.  I just had NO experience with yoga so needed a perspective.  Again, thanks.

And Lyra...sounds to me like perhaps your immune system might have been weakened  by the bad OJ BUT...had you not been in that very yukky sounding area...you probably would have not gotten sick.  I'm finding more and more that first something attacks my immune system (weakens it) {chem trails, bad food, mean spirited people, empty people whatever} and then...bacteria etc gets a chance to go nuts on me. 

I also find that I get affected by areas/people/stuff more than others.  Doesn't mean I get sick cuz I rarely do, but I will feel "off"...whereas it seems others can just go tra-la through the mess of lower vibrational stuff and not miss
a beat.  But...the walking dead don't seem to be affected by much of anything, sadly.

Christine B.

Hi Lyra,

You crack me up...I must say you remind me of me - raawther outspoken !!

But, I concur - Stuart seems really out there at the moment.  However, to add a different slant on this - I have some friends who live in England.  They went to several of his seminar/workshops in the early mid 80's.  They really liked him but then he got "too far out" and stopped following him.

ANd, I suspect that in the mid '80s he was MILD compared to now.  So, perceptions change as you said with your Icke example.  I can tell you that a friend of mine can rant endlessly about the lizards, New Mexico tunnels, etc etc and while I didn't see any lizards in NM or have any really strange occurances - the place was weirder than sh*t, that's for sure.

(I did have an ear ringing episode though).

Thanks for your input.  My thinking is it's important to take what is real to me...at this moment...and work with that.
Then, to take what is possibly real, to me, and let it sort of bubble along, looking for other things that might validate it and then whatever is left that seems - NOPE - not me (like the Ayahuska), I just discard it - for me.  (unless I later get a huge insight into something and it now becomes a truth for me).

What is becoming more and more clear is how little I KNOW (in stone). Truths seem to be rapidly changing.

Best,
Christine B.

I agree, Cameron.   Yoga is supposed to be some big time thing with a lot of Hollyweird celebrities, and look how balanced and sane and normal they come across.   I see these stories and paparazzi pictures showing whatever latest celeb off to their yoga thing, toting their yoga mat.  I hate the entire idea of formal yoga, it's so trendy, and has become an entire $$ money $$ making $$ industry in itself.  The other day at Whole Foods Market I saw that they have all these yoga mats, and yoga mat carrier bags, and all these other assorted yoga "accessories" for sale.   Model Christy Turlington has an entire yoga clothing line.  I mean, come ON!    Ugh.  It's too much.   The second you have to buy special clothes for something, and Specially Designed Tote Bag for your Specially Designed Yoga Mat then forget it, stick a fork in it, it's done!! 

And on a sidenote............what's up with this whole Kaballah trend??!?!?!!?!?  Holy cow.  That's another something that Hollyweird is heavily promoting.    Trendy spirituality is what I call the whole thing.

I cited my source, right there in my post if you go back and re-read.   It was Archaelogy Magazine.    You can go online as well, there's info. all over the place regarding the negative aspects of Chaco canyon, and the cannibals with their front teeth shaved into points.  They found the hundreds of skulls, including babies, whose skulls had been roasted on the fire, and the bones were scraped in the exact same manner as what's done to hunting game.

I'm not here to negate your personal experience, or anybody else's for that matter, at Chaco.  I was just sharing my personal experience.   And it happened to be negative.  If you experienced something different, that's fine.  I'm not going to challenge you on that.   You stand by your intuition, and I stand by mine, which was the same intuition that also caused me to flee (literally, running away from) Alcatraz island after stepping foot in one of the five solitary confinement isolation cells they have.   My intuition alerts to me to negative areas with highly charged negative energy.   I won't negate your experience, and I would hope you won't negate mine.

cameron...

i suppose it does look strange or questionable to the untrained eye.  tee, hee.

the first letter of my name is "n".  people just called me n, but it eventually evolved to ehhnus... think n + us.

lyra:

i was by no means negating your experience at chaco.