• From: Upland, California
  • Registered: 2007-01-20

Topic: If you had half a million dollars what would you do?

Given the near future destruction of the U.S. economy followed by all the economies of the world, what would you do if you had half a million dollars?

With a major energy crisis, food would not be able to be transported as far. It would then be very important to move next to farms, move next to a major distribution center of food, and/or grow your own food by owning a small farm. If the dollar crashes, reliance on outside help with be the norm for almost everyone. Almost no one is prepared for this. I read a thread about Argentina's collapse and this one will be so much greater. To read about this one go to this thread  http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=3700 I highly recommend it.

The things that will be most important are food, water, and safety. We saw how our government responded to Katrina... would this not be a great warning sign sent by God? Warning! Your government doesn't care about you! Do not rely on them for food, water, and safety in the near future! They may provide safety (probably corrupt) with Martial Law.

So, with half a million dollars where would you move and what would you do? Would moving next to the coast be a bad idea? Would having a sailboat to fish for food work in addition to living next to a distribution center of food and owning your own farmland? Or would being next to the coast be bad, because of future tsunamis and massive storms (the area of most concern is the Northern California Coastline.)

I realize many believe that if you have heightened consciousness and a good heart that God will provide for you. You will attract everything you need with your awareness. In addition we will enter a phase in our evolution where we can will objects into existence. Is it wishful thinking to believe that? In a year or two we will be able to will food and water into existence?

I said in a recent thread that things are going to have to get ugly before they get pretty. Well, to handle the ugly times we gotta be serious. We shouldn't be afraid, but we should nonetheless prepare. Forcing yourself or allowing yourself to not be afraid of the future is like not being afraid while going 60 mph in a car headed towards a brick wall. Sure you could meditate yourself into an unhealthy lack of fear, but the consequences will be the same.

Imagine being surrounded by thousands of people in your 15 mile radius and grocery stores no longer have any food. What are people going to do? That will be complete mayhem. Crime increases with poverty. Poverty is going to increase. I doubt your going to be thinking about all these spiritual concepts and stuff when you are starving and struggling to survive.

There will be areas that are worse off than others. There may even be areas of prosperity. If I had to bet I would bet that the areas of prosperity are the places that will have clean water and an abundance of food. What if the middlemen in the food transportation line gets cut out and the only way to get your food is to go to the source? If gas becomes un affordable we will have to live next to the areas that grow the food. Sure, the military and Elite may possess advanced free energy technology, but what good will that do us if they keep assassinating the inventors and don't release the technology to the public. The Elite sees that overpopulation is a problem. They have a choice. Introduce free energy and increase population or don't do it and decrease it.... Gee I wonder what they will do...

Perhaps our energy on this forum needs to be directed towards unifying and moving towards the same geological areas to develop a spiritual community.

Being that our numbers are relatively low, how are we going to find others of like mind in our general vicinity to unite with and depend on for protection? The internet is a great medium for that.

There is a definite hierarchy of needs. We need food, water, shelter, and safety before we can focus on our spirituality. Would it not be wise to get those squared away, do everything you can to prepare, and then focus on your spirituality?

There are so many areas of the planet where starvation is a part of life, where suffering is the norm, and where crime is everywhere. Who's to say that this can't happen to us? The U.S. could be reduced to a third world country very very fast.

By thinking about this stuff and by planning am I attracting this scenario to affect me? Ummm... well it is going to happen whether or not I think about this stuff. The fundamentals of the U.S. economic system are so f*cked up. What's been attracting this situation into existence has been the ignorance of the population at large. If they were smart they would not be fooled by the tv's propaganda and thus they would elect leaders that will make smart decisions that benefit the country's economy rather than harming it. Until it happens, I can make a concerted effort to change direction or I can pretend it's not going to happen and be screwed when it does happen.

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  • Registered: 2007-11-25

Re: If you had half a million dollars what would you do?

I'd convert it to Euros, Pounds, and Reels. This could become ugly very fast. U.S. is addicted to imports. It will be really hard to buy imports as the dollar decreases and if things crash then importation may stop and buying it would be impossible anyway, I mean food mostly. But not just food form foreign countries, think about all the products you buy that are from hundreds of miles away, bad news for some.

If destruction is mapped I'm moving to the safe zone early to make sure I don't get caught in a rat race. I think the Tri cities are safe in eastern Washington, I'll go there maybe.

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  • From: Upland, California
  • Registered: 2007-01-20

Re: If you had half a million dollars what would you do?

Getting gold and silver is an obvious must. Gold and silver are not just increasing in relation to the dollar, they are increasing in relation to the Euro as well. If there is a gold and silver seizure by the government, It would also be wise to have Euros also. What I am thinking is, with some of the money I'd buy like 2-5 acres of good quality farmland. I would want to buy land that is close to farms and/or a major food distribution center. The land would also have to be close to a fresh water source. I would invest some of the money for a year supply of food, but I bet a 90 day supply would be sufficient. I would then make friends with the neighbors. I'd probably have a chicken coop, and maybe some goats in addition to whatever food I would grow.

I am not completely sure if the earth's natural catastrophes will increase in frequency and intensity. If this is the case then a boat would not be a good idea, but if the weather is relatively fine, fishing for food would be a really good option.

I know this may seem like it is in the wrong category, but it kind of isn't. In order to develop your own spirituality you need your needs met. Thus spirituality is dependent on your physical survival (unless you continue to develop your spirituality after death) in the future unless we magically become multidimensional beings rapidly in a year or two. Carlos Castaneda once said that sorcerers rarely leave much to chance. We can improve our odds of survival greatly by making smart decisions right now pertaining to geological location.

History repeats itself. The great depression caused mass migrations and this upcoming one will too I think. With less oil there will be less machinery and more human labor. People will migrate towards where the food is located. They will want to be by the major food hubs and the clean water.



Is there any chance a depression won't happen as soon as a year or two? Could there be another bubble like the real estate bubble? The way I see it is, there will either be an immediate depression or there will be another bubble. To create another bubble something new would have to be introduced that would cause everyone to want and buy it. Does the Elite have a trump card up their sleeves that they are going to release at some point to postpone the depression? Maybe they'll release some new technology that will be a must have on everyone's list? Then again... everyone is already far in debt and living pay check by pay check. More debt would be needed to create another bubble and the financial institutions are already eating their losses for lending money out so stupidly.

So, the only thing that would postpone the depression would be more debt and that is not possible. Now I know another bubble won't happen.

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  • Registered: 2006-01-11

Re: If you had half a million dollars what would you do?

Without being too happy-fluffy YCYOR or anything, I will say this: By spending too much time and energy dwelling on this subject, you are definitely more likely to bring it into your life.  Yes the fundamentals of the economy are screwed, but even in bad economic times, many people make do, while others don't.  Which of those two happens to you is just as likely to be caused by what you bring into your energetic sphere, as anything else.  And while I don't wish to support an "ignorance is bliss" approach, I would still recommend that if you feel a strong need to make some kind of "preparations" for whatever you feel will occur, you should do so in as non-emotional a manner as possible (don't get sucked into fear), and with an understanding that the main thing you're accomplishing is to soothe your own concerns, rather than actually prepare.

I spent several years with a doomer-survivalist mindset surrounding these kinds of issues, and made "preparations" as well.  Physically, all it got me was a lot of wasted effort, and not just because it was too early, but because it ultimately ended up being the wrong kind of preparations.  The thing is, I couldn't have prepared for them any differently; the information I needed to make the "right" choice wasn't available at the time, and that's a big part of what I learned (and the only really truly important lesson to come out of that whole chapter in my life):

The only preparation you can make for this kind of thing, is within yourself.  The more spiritually prepared you are, the more aware you'll be capable of being during moment-to-moment situations, and that's the only kind of preparation that's really going to matter.  On the physical level, things are changing so fast now (and this change is accelerating) that long-term plans are becoming increasingly useless.  We are being taught, at a very deep level, how to remain present.  Initially it was just a "good direction to move in", but as we approach this "event" it's switching over to being the only way to really navigate the world around us.

The survivalists, the hoarders, the doomers, the zombies, all of them are going to have a hard time, and that tough time will be rooted in fear from all sides.  Fear of losing what they have, fear of losing while their peers aren't, fear of going down and not taking everyone else around them with them, all of that is likely to find its way out of the woodwork.  None of those kind of physical preparations will stand up in that kind of situation.

Get spiritually prepared now (while your hierarchy of needs is met so you can do so), get your awareness in check, and above all, extricate yourself from all that worry.  The most effective sword is the one you never have to pick up.

And if you still feel the need to prepare, use that energy and put it towards meeting and becoming friendly with your neighbors.

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Re: If you had half a million dollars what would you do?

Yaaaaa...What Kinsei Said!  smile

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  • Registered: 2007-06-27

Re: If you had half a million dollars what would you do?

Beautiful picture, DanB! I love cloud pictures. Looks like Heaven's right behind that cloud.

Anyway, 500 000 dollars? I'd probably use it to pay off all the debts my family owes to various companies, colleges, etc. After that... I'd probably buy stuff to build a proper garden and then create my own passive money maker, so I'd always have time for my garden and my painting. I'd buy some fancy art stuff- good proper paint, not the nasty discount store stuff. I just don't think things will turn out as bad as people make it... or maybe they will because people do make it. I'd buy presents for everyone I knew too.

  • From: Melbourne, Australia
  • Registered: 2005-07-11

Re: If you had half a million dollars what would you do?

kinsei wrote:

The only preparation you can make for this kind of thing, is within yourself.  The more spiritually prepared you are, the more aware you'll be capable of being during moment-to-moment situations, and that's the only kind of preparation that's really going to matter.  On the physical level, things are changing so fast now (and this change is accelerating) that long-term plans are becoming increasingly useless.  We are being taught, at a very deep level, how to remain present.  Initially it was just a "good direction to move in", but as we approach this "event" it's switching over to being the only way to really navigate the world around us.

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Get spiritually prepared now (while your hierarchy of needs is met so you can do so), get your awareness in check, and above all, extricate yourself from all that worry.  The most effective sword is the one you never have to pick up.

And if you still feel the need to prepare, use that energy and put it towards meeting and becoming friendly with your neighbors.

Affirmative.

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  • Registered: 2005-12-20

Re: If you had half a million dollars what would you do?

Build STO enclave, help others build same.

9 Reply by titmouse_ (edited by titmouse_ 2008-01-22 14:40:10)

  • From: Shores of Lake Titikaka
  • Registered: 2006-05-25

Re: If you had half a million dollars what would you do?

"A million dollars can be exchanged for a billion in community goodwill when meaningful opportunities are made possible to those worthy of the grace they bestow. The opportunity to fully live rests in the gift of independence."
~~carefulcarpenter


I'd hire DanB to build a fine and worhty deck(composite green materials of course)--and one for my crippled neighbor, too. I would not leave much to my children except a small subsidy for education. Any greater subsidy would rob them of the gift of independence. smile

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  • Registered: 2006-05-30

Re: If you had half a million dollars what would you do?

If I had 1/2 a mil I'd invest in zeropoint energy.  Zeropoint energy, which supports every atom and molecule, will soon be used directly to power a car, house, or spaceship. This is the only uninterruptible fuel supply for the near future that will be here sooner than you think. Thomas F. Valone a former community college teacher was the innovater. My kind of guy.  Anyway, I'd then have money to invest in Valone and take zenden for a space trip.
Entrepreneur anyone? Check it out.  http://www.zpenergy.com/

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  • Registered: 2007-08-05

Re: If you had half a million dollars what would you do?

Millenium wrote:

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  • From: Shores of Lake Titikaka
  • Registered: 2006-05-25

Re: If you had half a million dollars what would you do?

In my area it is illegal to collect rain water. Governments need tax dollars and water companies need customers.  We get over 80 inches of rain per year on average and we have one of the highest water company rates in the country.

Fun fact: Great Tits are common in Europe

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Re: If you had half a million dollars what would you do?

titmouse_ wrote:

In my area it is illegal to collect rain water. Governments need tax dollars and water companies need customers.  We get over 80 inches of rain per year on average and we have one of the highest water company rates in the country.

Wow, that is absolute insanity. Where are you again? In the Northwest?

I hope they never make it illegal to grow vegetables and herbs in my backyard as well.

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  • From: Upland, California
  • Registered: 2007-01-20

Re: If you had half a million dollars what would you do?

Kinsei wrote:

The only preparation you can make for this kind of thing, is within yourself.  The more spiritually prepared you are, the more aware you'll be capable of being during moment-to-moment situations, and that's the only kind of preparation that's really going to matter.  On the physical level, things are changing so fast now (and this change is accelerating) that long-term plans are becoming increasingly useless.  We are being taught, at a very deep level, how to remain present.  Initially it was just a "good direction to move in", but as we approach this "event" it's switching over to being the only way to really navigate the world around us.

...

Get spiritually prepared now (while your hierarchy of needs is met so you can do so), get your awareness in check, and above all, extricate yourself from all that worry.  The most effective sword is the one you never have to pick up.

And if you still feel the need to prepare, use that energy and put it towards meeting and becoming friendly with your neighbors.

Kinsei, can you please define what it means to you to be spiritually prepared?

I believe in the law of attract no doubt. I also think we get help from angels. We have things that protect us when we are in tune with reality. If I am constantly worrying about an economic collapse causing mass starvation, mass unemployment, and increased crime, then I believe I am more likely to be aligned with experiencing those realities. If I indeed have fear for that, then that is what will happen. I believe our thoughts and intentions have a say so in our futures.

I agree, preparation towards being spiritually prepared is good. I need to be generous yet wisely so, I need to be a good decision maker, and I need to be calm. Okay... I got those covered. I consider myself very aware. I can see through people. I know when someone is trying to fool me. I know how to live moment to moment. I know how to abandon everything if I have too. I know when to cut my losses. I have a good heart. I don't worry much. I am willing to accept a doom scenario. I know being loving and helpful will be a must for survival. Anyways, death I'm sure isn't so bad, (depending on how you die.) Anyways, this isn't something I fear or worry about. It's a simple matter of choosing to put oneself in the best position possible.

Our world operates under certain rules and laws. If we know what is to happen in the future we can place ourselves in the best possible position. No amount of meditation and self reflection will get you food when you need it.

If you are on a boat in the ocean and you know a massive storm is going to come would you not analyze this situation? Wouldn't you say... "A storm is heading towards me thus it would be a good idea for me to avoid this storm. I better sail to calmer waters."

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15 Reply by Kahnsentrayshun (edited by Kahnsentrayshun 2008-01-22 20:02:49)

  • From: Upland, California
  • Registered: 2007-01-20

Re: If you had half a million dollars what would you do?

What do we KNOW?

We KNOW that the Elite wants a world population of about 500 million.

We KNOW the dollar decreased 11% in relation to the Euro over this past year.

We KNOW that the housing market is on it's way down, (down markets take twice as much time than up markets.) It takes twice as long because houses are hard to liquefy. We know that there have been a million foreclosures so far and that number is on the rise. We know that the credit industry is really messed up. We know lots of banks are suffering major losses as so many people have defaulted and continue to default on their loans. We know that in March of 2006 the Federal Reserve stopped releasing statistics about the total money supply. They had been releasing these statistics since before 1959. We know they are hiding the fact that they are printing more and more money. We know the value of the dollar is rapidly decreasing. We know nothing can save it, because in order to save it we would have to get rid of the income tax, have a federal sales tax of 30%, reduce spending tremendously (may have to get rid of medicare and social security,) withdraw from the war, and stop devaluing our currency by borrowing tons of money and printing off tons of money. Only Ron Paul could do something like that. I don't see that happening even if he was elected. He could easily be assassinated. Who knows... maybe he could be assassinated and replaced by a clone. It's very possible our secret black op government can do that. As soon as cloning was discovered I'm sure they started to try and clone humans right off the bat.

We KNOW the gap between the rich and poor is growing increasingly wider. The middle class is being wiped out.

We KNOW beyond a doubt that the dollar is going to collapse. Whether this is a fast crash or slow crash is another question. I think the Elite don't want a fast crash. They want to avoid as much civil unrest as possible. They don't want people rebelling. They want people being compliant. Thus the crash will probably be in steps. Every month and year will get progressively worse.

In other words. We KNOW or SHOULD KNOW that a crash is going to happen. It is inevitable. So we must ask ourselves how will life be after the crash? Maybe that should be a topic all on it's own...  By the way, these are good things to think about, "B-b-b-b-but but they are negative things to think about and you will attract them into your reality!"

The people that survive, survive because they are more knowledgeable, they are smarter, they think fast, they make good decisions, and they know the value of community. They strive for knowledge that will help their situation. Most importantly, they maintain their composure. That is one thing I am very good at. I am always calm. It could be hell on earth and you could come up and ask me, "Hey, what's up Matt?" and I'd be like, "Uh... Not much.. you?" I am this way because of all the hours of meditation I have done. I have learned how to detach from the circumstances around me, analyze them from a bird's eye view, and then make the best decision as objective as possible.


I think it would be both fun and a good idea to analyze what life will be like after the crash. What major industries will survive? Will there still be fast food restaurants? How will I get the things I need? What jobs will be available? What role will the military and government have in our lives?

If this isn't spiritual (Love, Faith, KNOWLEDGE) then I don't know what is. Knowing what is to come and being mentally prepared for it is what being spiritual is about. Knowing exactly what to do in any situation in the future will help. If you have to migrate you need to know where to migrate too. You need to know your geography. You need to know the locations of military bases (what if there is a nuclear war, wouldn't you want to be far out of the way of foreign military targets?) You need to know good routes to travel on. You need to know the lay of the land basically.

A reality is going to hit us. Peace won't come until we know death intimately. Only when the fear between us all dissipates, will we learn to love one another unconditionally on a massive scale.

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