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Topic: Is energetic awareness an extension of Maya?

What do you think? You may recall the Shaolin priests on that famous television series Kung Fu, an excellent portrayal of spirituality, how they can always sense who is around them or sneaking up behind them by their chi, and all other sorts of energetic awareness.. you've probably heard of star children, how many are born with a kind of energetic awareness, maybe some become healers as they grow older.. and you're probably aware of those types of people who focus on their energetic awareness for a variety of different possible reasons.. however have you not also heard of the concept of Maya, how the conventional world is ultimately illusory in nature?.. to me it seems that such questions haven't any real answers available in the modern marketplace of ideas, just perspectives that make the mistake to be wiser than they are.. perhaps one almost always underestimates how different one person is from the next, and takes one's own life context too importantly in imagining how other people truly are.. I don't even want to get into all the different ways this can be considered, like the difference between proper advice to be given to a particular type of star child, soul, practitioner of a particular way, etc., how different this advice must be in each case.. perhaps beyond the right-hand-path "enlightened" dismissal of the realness of reality, and the subsequent left-hand-path sentiment of revolt that nothing at all can possibly be an illusion.. perhaps one thing is well expressed in the categorical dismissal of reality at large.. that energy is part of that thing called Maya, that it is as much an illusion as anything else.. those of energetic awareness may say that it is more real than the physical, but still the point would be that it is still physical in nature (just a different plane), coupled with whatever (supposedly) "objective" information and belief extending therefrom.. it seems strange to me how it is so difficult to find any mention in the entire marketplace of ideas throughout history and even in entertainments such as television or film, any reference of full self-realization without the "subsequent" powers this entails.. I read here a lot about neg influence and related energetic problems.. and truly it seems to me that the answer is never ever found in a particular physical movement, ritual, routine, or energetic manipulation.. but rather the answers always necessarily lie in right knowledge, especially of self.. could it be that we all misunderstand what it means to be enlightened or self-realized, that we all have preconceptions in mind, and nowhere in the marketplace of ideas is an accurate portrayal available?.. could this be one of the greatest weaknesses of the new-age movement, along with all those apparently 'evolved' followers?.. it just seems to me that wisdom today is not respected as a practical solution, but more as an ideal that one would obviously employ were the obstructing ignorance already transcended.. I believe, in fact I know that I have Seen what real, whatever-you-want-to-call-it, real spiritually aware existence, is, and I see it nowhere.. I'm not just remarking on how spiritually backwards society is.. I mean that I haven't seen it in a single place other than my personal experiences, really not even a single place.. I take solace in the fact that it is multi-faceted, and I would not always recognize it in others when it is different from within me.. but I am willing to bet that these last sentences will come off as ego-ridden, while simultaneously all the questions I previously posited will not receive any sufficient answers at all.. I would be glad to bet on it... and so, perhaps wisdom is no longer recognized?.. I mean if things were *THAT* bad, then nobody would realize it, else it wouldn't be *THAT* bad, right?

Sometimes I feel like I'm selling shit on a stick because the Truth hurts so to speak that badly lmao...

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Re: Is energetic awareness an extension of Maya?

I've been trying to get to the bottom-line as to how I should be carrying myself each day.  The latest idea I've come to like is that we have within us as the most basic urge or perhaps not urge, but what is our most important life goal and maybe it is urge after all, but we dim it quite often, being possessed of intelligence and culture. 

Maturity being reached.  The primary and main antagonist being selfishness.  When anyone goes into their interior dictionary to come up with the definition of the word, I imagine it is very consice.  The idea that it may be that something that could be strived for eternally, might give some light as to how immense the complete definition is.

I don't know that there is good and evil, positive and negative, perfect and imperfect in the sense that only one half of each is to be kept and the other discarded.  Whatever works in the effort to evolve without negatively affecting another evolving being which appears to be engaged in such.  If someone appears to be engaged in a repeating pattern of thought and behavior that appears to be evolution backwards, well then it is not against cosmic law to...  well, anyway, anything done that springs forth from emotions of anger, hate, vengence, is something done out of selfish desire.  Of course, if some being of one hundred percent pure light came to me shewing examples of omnipotence and says, "Yes, I did write that Book" then there will be a golden dawn with green fields of cool rain.

That one thing you mentioned, I experienced only once.  Hearing from the aspect of a tiny insect.  You don't miss many sounds.  Sometimes I understand, and other times I can't, the following; empty the body of self and fill it with oneness.

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Re: Is energetic awareness an extension of Maya?

Hmmmm, noble ideals, certainly, and noticing your sig as well, I have only one thing to say. If you wish to take charge of your life in a spiritual sort of sense, as you speak of, then is it best to strive first for an ideal state of awareness, taking into account for what it's worth what you know of and learn of how the Divine, the universe, and everything in general exists and works, or is it best to strive first for complete knowledge of how the Divine, the universe, and everything in general exists and works, taking into account for what it's worth your states of awareness as they come and go?

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Re: Is energetic awareness an extension of Maya?

Hello Transcix,  Antaeus,

Good questions, thoughts!

What about applying the k. i. s. s. program to everything we are and everything we do and everything in front of us?!

Keep It Simple Spirit  smile

What if everyone we met every new day in front of us was treated like a long lost friend or loved one by us?!...and I mean with the real energy we have and project when we meet up with a long lost friend or loved one! 

What if everywhere we went was a spiritual gathering place because we are gathering at that place...what if we saw and felt everyone and everything around us as an extension of our own within-ness!?

Here is a kind of recent simple synchronistic post of mine from another forum I frequent:

Thanks Z!

"We Are The Ones We Have Been Waiting For!"

The More We Connect Within,
There Will Be No Thing In Our Lives Without!

Time to Re-awaken Love and Oneness with
Every Step We Take and Every Move We Make!

And a short clip from the movie "Powder":
"You're Part Of Everything!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ2Cg6koHPQ

http://www.awakening-spirits.net/images/ghm3.jpg

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Re: Is energetic awareness an extension of Maya?

Transcix wrote:

Hmmmm, noble ideals, certainly, and noticing your sig as well, I have only one thing to say. If you wish to take charge of your life in a spiritual sort of sense, as you speak of, then is it best to strive first for an ideal state of awareness, taking into account for what it's worth what you know of and learn of how the Divine, the universe, and everything in general exists and works, or is it best to strive first for complete knowledge of how the Divine, the universe, and everything in general exists and works, taking into account for what it's worth your states of awareness as they come and go?

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I am not my Spirit, I'm the caboose pulled along by it.  When I review my previous thoughts, words and actions, It might evoke from me, "that there is no way I'm still connected to my Spirit."  To keep it kind of simple, I see myself as septenary.  (The seven can be described as a trinity however).  A ray branches into seven, each of the seven also have seven aspects.  So we might say we operate from our Ego which we call the upper and lower mind.  It still has seven aspects, Ego simply happens to have apparent dominance.  So even though my inner god is seperate from my Ego, it can be said that there does exist a ray within my Ego of the Inner God.  We each have seven aspects, and perhaps ten.  I'm only speaking of seven, I'm also saying each of the seven contain seven.  Let me use an example, one of our lower aspects is the astral body.  It contains all seven aspects within it, it's simply that the astral body is the dominant aspect.  I wonder if in all seven aspects which each in turn, possess seven aspects, if the Inner God of each, can be made the go-to guy.  The number seven represents physical completion; the number forty-nine is seven groups of seven.  The number fifty, therefore, represents a departure from the physical realm into the spiritual one, just as does the number eight.

Personally, I think the K.I.S.S (keep it simple Spirit) is best done by those who can also be intensely complex.  Existence is enormity, complexity.  That is what makes it so enjoyable to be simple, when being simple.  I can happen to come across a circumstance, where my taking an action can be an aid, or a hindrance to another.  I will naturally want to aid the other, but I'm not necessarily going to be effervescing bubbily foam of huggy love with my toes barely touching the Earth while meandering along my way on the path.  On the other hand, one never knows do one?

Transcix, sorry, I didn't touch upon the subject of awareness, did I?  Maybe it is a Freudian thing...

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Re: Is energetic awareness an extension of Maya?

Hmmmm, interesting. You use many terms which I do not recognize, such as higher/lower. I wonder, why is your Spirit "your" Spirit, if "It" is not "you"?... would not you rather belong then to It? Personally I am more familiar with reference to the proverbial caboose as the place of control agency, as the person in the chariot directs the horses and not the other way around, and in this vein I am familiar with interpreting the horses as the mind or the ego and identifying yourself as the person directing the chariot, who must in some fashion first break the horses in.

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Re: Is energetic awareness an extension of Maya?

DanB, I thank you for your reply. What you bring up is interesting, although I am not sure that we see it very similarly. For instance, of course I am part of everything, for I am not the entirety of existence. smile I do not know you personally, but I do know a thing or two about new-age spirituality and how divine inspiration is being instilled in humanity these days. Because of this I must be cautious, and not take words like yours to heart unless I have reason to believe that you treat yourself always as a long lost friend or loved one. For those who do not choose to be quite as discerning, then perhaps some of the positive trigger words in your reply will help to awaken something Divine in them.

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Re: Is energetic awareness an extension of Maya?

Transcix wrote:

Hmmmm, interesting. You use many terms which I do not recognize, such as higher/lower. I wonder, why is your Spirit "your" Spirit, if "It" is not "you"?... would not you rather belong then to It? Personally I am more familiar with reference to the proverbial caboose as the place of control agency, as the person in the chariot directs the horses and not the other way around, and in this vein I am familiar with interpreting the horses as the mind or the ego and identifying yourself as the person directing the chariot, who must in some fashion first break the horses in.

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My study is a process still in progress.  I'm mainly devoted to Theosophy, but I find I have a group of books which are Hermetic and utilize Kabalah formulas and a study of Elementals among the involved context.  I find myself wanting to deny any personal favoring of Buddhism or Hinduism, and yet, find that I continue amassing knowledge from both sources.  I like to often study the Tree of Life of Judaism, its interesting.  I might even say that it is the most fascinating to me.  I like getting myself in over my head with regular old hard science as well.  To date, however, the format of looking at humanity, Earth, solar system and the universe, is through the eyes of the Theosophist.  Souls are vessels, the physical body can be called a soul.  There are points that are reached when a soul can become more than just a soul.  The lower mind is most closely aware to the material plane, and the main utilizer of the five senses.  The higher mind is what I might say, is the Spirit, this is immortal.  When the lower mind attains communion with the higher mind, a precious event has occurred.  However, what is our Inner God is the Monad which is an indestructable, immortal, intense intellegent piece of the Boundless All.  It is rarely alone as it uses Buddhi as its vessel, Buddhi is a Divine Soul which will itself become, in time, a Monad.  The Monad has to create a Earth-suit for manifestation in matter, and not only that, it also does not put itself entirely into the suit, so there is a sort of remote control involved.  A picture to use as a reference might be the Tree of Life: you notice that above Malchuth are several globes that appear to be seperate and ascending.

That is the way all hierarchies work, they may appear to be seperate, as that is what they are, but not completely, in that they are all interblending.  So if you are on the topic of awareness and I am operating from the regular ole part of the brain that is constantly vigilant of perceptions received by the five senses, I would say that I would want my awareness to be evolving, growing, unfolding 'that which I know' exists even within my lower mind, a ray from my Divine Monad.  At times, I might describe myself as being under the influence of elementals, as some event has provoked a passion within me.  You see?  I have to be ever vigilant if I want my lower mind to become that which the higher mind might find compatible.

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DanB, I thank you for your reply. What you bring up is interesting, although I am not sure that we see it very similarly. For instance, of course I am part of everything, for I am not the entirety of existence. smile I do not know you personally, but I do know a thing or two about new-age spirituality and how divine inspiration is being instilled in humanity these days. Because of this I must be cautious, and not take words like yours to heart unless I have reason to believe that you treat yourself always as a long lost friend or loved one. For those who do not choose to be quite as discerning, then perhaps some of the positive trigger words in your reply will help to awaken something Divine in them.

Hi Transcix,
  One of the very first things that I share with those in my life that ask me about changes coming and what one person may do to help in a positive way is this:

Go to a place in your mind where you love to sit with nature, a personal place of peace;  the ocean beach, stream side, your own garden in your yard, the mountains...anyplace that is special for you.
See yourself walking towards yourself smiling with arms out...embrace yourself and tell yourself,
" I Love You! "  If need be, do it a number of occasions until you really feel a smile within. This is a very strong step in re-learning to trust your own self as your own counselor and adviser to help you co-create love and oneness. This one simple gesture is an empowering and gratitude based energizer of the wisdom we all are within. It begins to allow you to be the best you you can be.
Great talk by Dr. Woolf on the matter of what matters:
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/vwoolf.htm

Also, you may get to know me just a bit from my sharing in this thread last year.
http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 87&p=5

I am one of those people that have met a good number of people on the internet in the last seven years or so and have met many of them in person...including flying to the northwest from the northeast this summer to help build a couple custom townhomes, meeting the person I helped for the first time when I stepped off the plane. I have done this a dozen times or so...I am simply letting you know I am the exact same person on the net as I am in real life...I feel most of the people here at noble are that way too.

Sincerity is the backbone of the uprighting ethical period we are now in, imho.

I presume You have read the book and thus this thread, Transcix!
http://www.simulatedworlds.com/main.html
http://www.simulatedworlds.com/images/maya.jpg
I will re-read the introduction and other sections on that site today.
It is a rainy friday...I will be at the 'puter this morn.

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Re: Is energetic awareness an extension of Maya?

very interesting!! thanx for the knowledge.. I just thought I will add something that I personally know of from the Hindu scriptures. I have been born and brought up as a very strict muslim infact I have been to mecca thrice and the soical and family programming of me was in such a way that I didn't only fail to notice things around me as I was growing I would live oblivious to an extent that I didn't learn speaking english untill I was in like 7th grade where I learnt the meaning between increase and decrease. But yeah at  that point I looked at any religion as a threat against my believe system of Islam and so, I lived giving all my faith and believes in the hands of Allah and ma mum that I loved. But as I grew up sufferings were unbearable to a point where I had to ask myself and look back at my whole life why and how I became who I am at this point and it wasn't untill 2005 that i would wake up from my dream state..but this is all irelevant to what am about to write about Maya...

Well, according to hinduisim Brahma is all there is its undefinable and it enters everything that manifests from quarks to atoms or even artificial beings or crystals anything that will manifest Brahma will be a part of it but it only acts as a silent witness what acts is the power of Brahma that is Maya. And from Maya came the primal waters to everything so she is the great cosmic mother so to speak which gave birth to everything.  Brahma is cit which mean its bliss it cannot be modified its a conciousness of wholeness which is the highest attainment of spiritual evolution where ONE can experience himself as every particle to anything that is there. What we call Kundalini is the mother force its the love between the spirit of our minds and the soul that we carry and kundalini is all together shiv-shakti.... when a person is fully illumiated he becomes a seed of brahma who becomes one with all there is. shiv being the positive pole the three higher sacred chakras and shakti is the lower chakraz the negative pole(negative is not taken for its literal meaning but mere difference of masculine and feminine in terms of higher knowledge where forces can't be defined as man and woman). So, Maya is the working of all there is she is the cosmic mother force behind every force and laws of physics that we have for electromagnetic to nuclear energy its her working.

I more on a personal level for some reason convince and think in terms of Love between the brahma and Maya that resulted all the existence. it doesn't matter what we call them but there is a great cosmic father ONE MIND on who we all are subsets and when our spirits come to existence with the help of the Father the ONE MIND we make our instruments in this physical realm in the love and with the help of the mother that gives birth to our bodies. Now, if we see the working inside of an egg or even in any organism its the rule that its the feminty that gives brith which is explained in our physical realms that there is a cosmic mother that gives brith to all there is and father being the Mind and conciousness but I think even the force is concious. Now, I feel people who are highly negatively charged up in hate and all that play and manipulate the conciousness of the ONE MIND that results in jacking into our own minds or making us slaves thru their teachings from our birth.

" Love is the understanding and unspoken bond between you and the creator "

"Loving is an art that is the state of creation"

..........Lyrically am suppose to SHINE.........
..........I am the ONE that makes you  BLIND........
..........And am that darkness that lets you SHINE.........

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Re: Is energetic awareness an extension of Maya?

Hmmmm, well explained EON, that is more or less what I understand of Hinduism... if only still but for the pigeonhole nature of the term "Hinduism" which really incorporates a bunch of different faiths and beliefs lumped together under a common label when the British were in India and wanted a simple check box to tick to qualify one for a sort of financial aid (I believe because there were some religions at that time the British thought to be too evil to be conducive, so they created "Hinduism" to encourage "better" religion)..

So you are saying, to clarify perhaps if a reader is in doubt, that Brahma is among other things the male potency that in a spiritual sense inseminates Maya, really like energy that powers the machine of convention? Hmmmm personally I do not see Maya as anything more than a term, a sad instance, one of many that cannot seemingly be avoided, when in order to describe the nature of reality, it is necessarily to separate one thing into two separate things with labels, in order to describe the one thing in the first place.

I will post more later!

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EON wrote:  Now, I feel people who are highly negatively charged up in hate and all that play and manipulate the conciousness of the ONE MIND that results in jacking into our own minds or making us slaves thru their teachings from our birth.
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This helps me a bit with understanding the 42 Principles.  Nothing we create simply vanishes, it has to run its course, and this includes thoughts.  The course is forward, evolving, becoming more than what we currently are.  Now, there are those who are so completely intransigent in being of a nature non-conducive to becoming.  This ends up being grinded in Nature's furnace to simply become once more Nature's constituent base material.  What an individual is, becomes aware of concepts such as 'only those higher aspects of their being ascends' and may become a bit disturbed by this concept.  I think I can confidently say that in the case of most people, there is not so much of them after all is said and done, getting left behind and being a cause of sorrow.

EON, I would like to hear more of what you might say on your comment that I pasted at the top of this msg. 

So many people continue stressing their belief that material existence is maya, illusion.  Hey!  Have we not concluded that matter is light? energy?  So you are saying that energy and light are not real?  I would simply submit that the only reason we might consider this physical existence as illusion is because we know the physical body is mortal.  This makes us sad.  So we try to mitigate this sadness by saying it is not real anyway.  IT IS REAL, but we have beginnings and endings.  Periodicity, revolvings, evolvings.  We try to reach the very pinnacle of perfection and even that which we would name Perfection can at will go after another self portrait of Perfection.  We strive to emulate Perfection, that is why we are eternal.

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I wouldn't want to point my fingers at anything but to me for this world to exist there has to be balance. Now, when I wrote that phrase what I tried to insist and bring up was that when we get too positive or too negative we are giong out of balance and what I personally experience and struggle in the existence is that people who are highly negatively charged are soo stubborn with their ideas that its the the energy which is to say Maya or the force, the light which is ofcourse, a part of the God like everything else but they live their life's forgetting the love between the force and the its base conciousness which is pure conciousness and just fight for their believes. And they go to any extent to make the mind sleep and push that person to make choices in a dream like state. I am glad all the choices I might have made didn't work out for me and there must sure be a reson for it. I don't want to sound like an ego-mind driven person I am from the bottom of my heart passionate about love and peace and good for all like anyone else with highest frequency of heart. 

Control I said it due to the fact that since my birth my family brought up in a way and my father played a bad guy's character who is lost in alcohol and gambling and sexual driven person but let me say i still love and respect him since I know him as my father and most of all the same part of the ONE. Now, all the mind programming and everything stressed on me to quit the idea of Father from my mind and believe in mother. Now, since am Muslim for my name sake and I believe I don't want to be catagorized by some concepts that don't represent the whole aspect of me but in Islam they always insist that the heaven is right under the mother's feet or they would say Allah holds the love of 70 mothers. Well said, I would agree to it but why is the name of the father is not their why is it I feel they are all one sided beings who act from their hearts oblivious of their true spirits. Now, my whole family is negatively charged they understand that am as of now blanced and respect both the mind and my soul and trying hard to make me a one sided.

But yeah...Brahma is Cit which is to say is the conciousness of everything that is bliss the pure conciousness that includes anything that plays on it wether generated artificially or generated thru us in our thoughts and it enters all. Therefore, I termed it as ONE MIND since we play on it and we learn from it but what sets ones state of conciousness is feeling and how we feel and how we recieve what we feel. So, to me the soul of the Brahma is Maya. Now, if we take that term in our own life we live as  concious beings but what makes our state of conciousness and feelings is our heart and soul. but soul is the energy of our conciousness only we are unaware of it and we are restricted to our conciousness to surrender unto the religious believes which what they do is you deposit the soul energy of yours under that depot that we surrender unto. Now, people become psychic using their soul energy. PSi in greek means soul. So, for our conciousness to get that pure conciousness we need to realize the oneness with everything around us and at the same time loving our heart and soul under the love of the ONE. Which for me is Brahma and Maya the great cosmic father and mother. When I say too much negatively charged it implies to both the ego driven minds and souls that are blinded thru emotions.  So, when entities are rejecting their souls and graduating as Father sided lizard like cold blooded beings they try and divide the new ones to follow their path and control the whole world. And when the entities are graduating as mother sided full of soul and love being and too much love with no direction and unconditional understanding hate towards the lizzies making and calling themselves angles for love and in love they are manipluation the very same new ones that are part of the system being born as complete entities.  So, basically saying too much negatively charged means not being able to understand and being blinded by the purpose and their believes.

To me Brahma is truely blissed because he loves his energy in every aspect of it and energy realizes it. But it cannot feel the pain and sufferings of us because we are reflected beings of him and anything that we do is ultimately an experience for him the whole conciousness and when these negatively charged entities have access to the whole conciousness and they try and manipulate our minds in our dreams and in our life. The love andlight beings do with their love and light and the dark side beings do with their mind programming and both of them are playing on the same ground not realizing that all we need to do is let go off what we cannot hold. Just rejoice our existence in love and grow as what ever we are and learn and respect every aspect of our cuz its ultimatley the same source that gave birth to the whole existence.

ANTAEUS: I would like to know all the 42 principles if its possible for you to post for me thanx...and I do agree with what you wrote. It explains me how my thoughts are always controlling me and making me do things that i don't intent or will too. Even in hindu scriptures they say when the universe dissolves everything that is here will not be vanished it will become a product for its next manifestaion of big bang and will come back.

Me speaking too much about Hinduisim please don't get the idea that I follow it. I have read few religous books and scriptures what resounded made me who I am and I have a long way to go its just that what i want is something too hard to achieve but I hope with all my love to make it. About British making hinduisim I doubt it but am not sure...In hinduisim they have lot of Gods and Deitys but just like Islam its a cover for the same mother force which is ofcourse not wrong if they can respect someone else's existence as a complete ONE entity and let everyone play their own part the way its being played. All and all we are praising ONE in his every aspect wether christanity or hinduisim its just our social behavioural patterns that make us and command us to fight for the rigteousness.

" Love is the understanding and unspoken bond between you and the creator "

"Loving is an art that is the state of creation"

..........Lyrically am suppose to SHINE.........
..........I am the ONE that makes you  BLIND........
..........And am that darkness that lets you SHINE.........
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DanB wrote:

What if everyone we met every new day in front of us was treated like a long lost friend or loved one by us?!...and I mean with the real energy we have and project when we meet up with a long lost friend or loved one! 

What if everywhere we went was a spiritual gathering place because we are gathering at that place...what if we saw and felt everyone and everything around us as an extension of our own within-ness!?

Beautiful, DanB, just beautiful.

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EON wrote:  ANTAEUS: I would like to know all the 42 principles if its possible for you to post for me thanx...and I do agree with what you wrote. It explains me how my thoughts are always controlling me and making me do things that i don't intent or will too. Even in hindu scriptures they say when the universe dissolves everything that is here will not be vanished it will become a product for its next manifestaion of big bang and will come back.
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If you check out any of Kahnsentrayshun's messages, you will see as his signature, a link to Montalk's article on the subject.  I had simply come across a different way of describing the 42 Principles.  When I was reading of loka's and tala's.  In the realm of manifestation there are seven Earth's.  In this case, I only speak of the seven.  Globe A is on a grade more ethereal than Globe B, as Globe B is more ethereal than Globe C.  We are on Globe D, the most material.  The next, Globe E, is on the same plane of ethereality as Globe C, as Globe F is with Globe B, and Globe G with Globe A.  What is beyond that, I'm not speaking of as it is very abstract, and even with what I am discussing now, I'm being concise to a fault.

This brings to mind how the Hindu's, or rather, since we are now to assume that Hindu is a generalizing term for what are really a lot of many different religions: I feel like I should now say, that which is written in Sanskrit describes that there are many different levels, grades, planes of existence.  In fact, the only reason they might be described as hells is that ANY existence that is not Devachan or Nirvana may accurately be described as a hell.  With this said, I can actually say that there are many so called hells which are quite a bit better than this existence you and I share right now.

It was when I was reading of how manifesting began, starting with Globe A, elemental group number one began, living out their cycle of lives and then becoming dormant.  As elemental group number two begins its cycles of lives on Globe A, the complete manifestation of elemental group number one is on Globe A, but somehow there is a surplus of elemental group number one that is pulled down to, attracted to Globe B to begin cycles of lives on it.  This is where the text made reference to the 42 Principles or 42 Fires, or 42 Sons of God.  Third description I added.  It was when explaining how there is something left over of the first elemental group, some sort of surplus that goes on to the next Globe.  All three elemental groups do this with all seven Globes.  Then minerals, plants, beasts, and humans.  There is a point where all seven Globes are peopled with humans.  We are not contemporaneous to each other, but we will be at some point in our evolution.  As it still does not explain the 42 Principles completely to me, and causes a nagging in my mind, it does lead to some idea's.  As to what it is of me, you, everyone here on Globe D that goes on to Globe E.  As time approaches for us to ascend to the next Globe, (Globe E) perhaps we simply finish our lives, conclude our lives here and when we manifest again on Globe E we will consist of a finer quality of being living on an Earth more ethereal.  I would say it would be a much more beautiful existence than even this currently magnificent Earth we now enjoy.

The term Middle Earth is probably familiar to most people from seeing the "Lord of the Rings" movie.   Four levels, four grades, four planes, four heavens.  It seems strange, three levels above our Earth, the fourth heaven, is Globe A.  We are more advanced than they are.  However, three levels up is also Globe G.  I wonder which Globe humans of Globe G would find more commonality with; Globe A or our Globe D?  If you were to draw a diagram of these Globes it would look sort of like the letter V.  Globe A top left; Globe D bottom; Globe G top right.  Note the distance between them?  This forth heaven is very ethereal, I would even say exalted by its very nature.  Do you understand how a human of this Globe D might judge angels?  We've already lived out lives on Globes A; B; C.  Our degree of sophistication is much greater, yet they possess whatever attributes, qualities, abilities, information that only a being existing in the higher heavens could possess.  Humans on Globes E; G; and F would have the above inherent in them as well, but add to that an even higher level of sophistication than we have on Globe D.  Especially so on Globe G.  I wonder what, if any, interactions go on among these different Globes.

It makes me wonder.  If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now.  It's just a spring-clean for the May Queen...

Yes, there are two paths you can go by,  but in the long run, there's still time to change the road your on...

When I first came here, I saw a person smoking a cigarette, so I tried one.  I didn't know that you do not inhale the whole cigarette with one inhalation




Hahhh, just trying to freak you out.  That's from an old science fiction movie I saw a long time ago.

Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement.
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You have to believe in the impossible in order to become.