Ron Paul for President? (Page 8 of 13)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHB2I83_ … re=related

Ron Paul on the war on drugs, entertaining to say the least

Pages 5 and 6, of this thread.

But another Kennedy?  Hardly.  He's a distant cousin to Dick Cheney, (again, see page 5 of this thread if this is news to you).  Kennedy supposedly was talking about abolishing the Federal Reserve before he was assassinated.  I don't believe Obama talks about stuff like that.   Ron Paul does though.  Ron's talked about the Fed, the IRS and income tax, and our faulty money system.  All the more reason he'll never be allowed to be prez.

And what exactly is your point, exactly?

You start out questioning the fact that I said he wouldn't be "allowed" to win, seeming to disagree that our election system is deceptive and rigged.

Then you go on to say that you'd rather have him than Clinton or Obama.  Which very few in this thread would disagree with you about as evidenced by the You Tube vids we posted on previous pages showing Hillary acting like a robotoid, and the various comments about Obama giving empty promise speeches.   

Then you go on to say that we have to buy bumper stickers and endorse Ron Paul and at least try......again seeming to show that you disagree with the idea that our election system is fixed, and that it doesn't revolve around the concept of bloodlines, as already proven by many alternative researchers.

Then you conclude by saying that if he still ends up losing it'll just reveal our election system for the joke that it is.  Which shows that you DO agree that the election system is flawed and rigged. 

???

So.........what was your point exactly?

And bumper stickers and voting will miraculously change and fix this problem?   No.  It's going to take an outright mass awakening and revolution to change the rigged and deceptive system.   And I don't see that happening.

This is just my opinion and two cents, but at best, what may happen is that Ron Paul's loss will be the final straw for a lot of people out there.  The voting and bumper stickers and lawn signs themselves won't change anything, but it'll be a catalyst.  The line will be drawn in the sand.  Once you've roused hundreds of thousands of people into thinking about the idea of our flawed money system, the IRS, the Federal Reserve, illegal wars in other countries, big government over spending, and other issues, you can't just expect that all those people will go back to sleep, back to business as usual.  Democrats went back to their complacent sleep after John Kerry "lost," feeling deflated and beaten, but Ron Paul supporters are a different breed.  After being stirred into passionately supporting Ron and the issues he endorses, coupled with the way our country is tanking worse and worse with every passing year, they're probably not going to be content to just go back to accepting and perpetuating the flawed system.   

The only thing I can predict is that he will lose.  But what will happen after he does, I can't be sure.  And I'll go on record saying that I think Obama will "win."  He's bloodline, he's Democrat, he's half black, he equals the illusory change that the American public craves.   But things can go in a lot of different directions in the next few years, and there are many possible upcoming events that can factor into the equation to shape where this country goes.  Providing life on earth isn't severely wiped out courtesy of pole flips, ice ages, asteroid/comet impacts, and who knows what else, then we're looking at some severe economic problems, bare minimum.  Our military is depleted, our economy is tanking, previously lower currencies have now overtaken the dollar and countries are dumping the dollar in lieu of the Euro and other currencies, the middle class is being wiped out, foreclosures are at an all time high, factories have been steadily closing for years en masse and shipping business overseas, imported products are the name of the game here, so, this country is going down the tubes, no doubt about it.  There will probably be a lot of civil unrest should Ron Paul lose when his supporters are told that they need to just go back to sleep now, meanwhile as Obama raises taxes and keeps the system as it currently exists, with the Federal Reserve, the IRS, etc., intact.   zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.    Just sleeeeeeep. 

So, maybe Vermont will finally go through with seceding after all instead of just threatening to every other year.   At least one Native American nation has already seceded, maybe more will follow suit.   I know a guy who does his own form of channeling (still not exactly sure what his methodology entails) but what he was told was that there would actually not be "martial law" and round ups and camps all that hard core conspiracy talk you always hear about.  He was told that the Federal government is basically going to come apart at the seams due to a series of economic problems centering on weather disasters and other issues that would drain whatever money this country has left, and states would be left to fend for themselves on an individual level.  I thought that was very interesting, and had never even considered such a possibility.   But possibly that's where things are heading, and maybe Ron Paul's loss will be one little piece that ties into that, a catalyst that causes people to think about cutting ties with the mainstream Federal government and the way it does things with printing money out of thin air, not backing it by anything, the illegal IRS, the Federal Reserve, etc. etc.   And then who knows what issues - positive and negative - will come about as a result of all that.  You know...invasion by China, etc. 

My ramble for the morning.

Ron Paul's 10% In Iowa Shocks Establishment Media

Ron Paul's double digit support in Iowa has shocked establishment media figures who have long derided the Congressman as an insignificant candidate with just 2 or 3 per cent of the vote. Even Fox News' own talking heads now agree that Paul should not be excluded from the upcoming presidential forum as campaign momentum builds.

Dr. Paul blew "national frontrunner" Rudy Giuliani out of the water, who got just 4% of the vote, and is handily placed behind McCain and Thompson heading into New Hampshire.
The Congressman's strong showing has led to new calls for Fox News to reverse the decision to exclude him from the January 6th presidential forum, not from Ron Paul supporters but from Fox News' own flagship hosts.

"Ten per cent is not insignificant - that's a huge number," said Fox's Greta van Susteren, appearing with host Shep Smith last night. Smith noted that Paul had more than doubled Giuliani's total.

"Should Fox News reconsider?" asked Smith, to which Susteren responded, "I'm not sure why he's out of it (the forum)."

"Here you have a candidate that 10 per cent of the people caucused in his party really want him and it's not like he's an insignificant player," she added.

"He didn't just drop in yesterday to the process, he has been running for president for a long time, and certainly many of the issues he's raised are rather provocative and certainly stimulate the debate, that's not a bad thing - and why not pull up another chair?" Susteren concluded.

CNN's Wolf Blitzer and Larry King also noted Paul's double digit finish during a discussion last night.

"Ron Paul I think is gonna be a factor in New Hampshire on the Republican side much more than he was in Iowa given all the Independents there so let's not neglect Ron Paul when we're talking about this," remarked Blitzer.

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Yeah I'm familiar with Sherry Shriner she is basically a good person but im sorry I don't buy that he is a front for NESARA.  She found it in the Bible codes, so what christians have made so many predictions and I don't recall one ever being true. She claims she is a prophet of god she may be a false prophet who knows, I don't think god reveals his plan to anyone.

Nesara don't exist and neither does faction 3.  Therefore Ron Paul cannot be a "front" for them.  I don't know, some days i find it difficult being the last sensible chap on the planet.