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Re: The galactic alignment of 2012 already happened......In 1998.

More from Gary--this could also be in the WIH thread tied in with "soul revision"

There will be those who decide to be rescued from Earth instead of going through the shift to unity and ascension. This happened at the end of the Atlatian epoch and will happen again.  (he says Atlatian on purpose)

What you believe within your core will manifest in physical terms during the Twelve Days of Light. Many Triads, especially those believing whole-heartedly in the "salvation" of the more technologically advanced off-world beings, will see this as an opportunity to advance, to graduate from the wheel of birth and death through their other-worldly solutions. The Triads that do this will not have an ascension signature within the etheric body of their Soul and will therefore not be able to manifest a physical form at will, but will instead have to take a form being created for them. This taking of a physical form, instead of manifesting a physical form, will imprison them again. If not in this system, then in one very similar in frequency.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

Re: The galactic alignment of 2012 already happened......In 1998.

druid wrote:

Control over matter and over the ether via control over the fallen ethers, resonating with their own fallen being. They can assault the ether-life world and take it down with them, corrupt ethers or materialize its forces, in both ways they take out the life from it to serve forces of death, even though it manifests like living powers in matter (fior instance parasitic entities are forms of inorganic 'life', but their activity is  deadening, calcifying. They can also enliven a body with their doppelganger consciousness, but still it does not give life, this manipulated being will take life-stuff, as always.

Do you believe this technique is anti-life? There's a person alive who, I believe, would be dead if I hadn't done it. Never can prove it, of course. Why is this "ahrimanic"?

zenden wrote:

In those moments when we are wholly lucid, we live as we are meant to live: aware of how all things are connected and interrelated; of how one simple movement in one direction causes numerous responses in other directions. This is a child like state of wonderment that is witness to the very active and subtlety magical hand of the First Moment as Dyadic awareness, with its corresponding forms, seeks to bring the First Vision to rest in an eternal constant.

Kind of resonates with the Jesus quote.

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.

Re: The galactic alignment of 2012 already happened......In 1998.

I wasn't talking about your technique but about the fact that many entities play in the ether realm, and manipulate time, in a deteriorative way, working in upon us sometimes, when he open ourselves to their influence or when they karmically come back to us forkarmic reasons.

If you can extract your consciousness from matter only a think and exist in the etheric realm, this is the bestwayto understand the most immediate spiritual realm surrounding dense matter: the ether realm. From there, among many things possibles, you can manipulate dense matter. But to cure somebody from the etheric/astral realm is something that involves a great responsibility because you're working on the etheric/soul organization of the person. It is like the shamanistic practices of old times, where the shaman was taken by exctatic visions to the energy working necessary to cure the sick person. Re-enacted today those practices do not fit in our modern consciousness and modern-way of 'karma expurging'.

I know about an alchemist who works directly on the etheric Fabric of the body. Distorsions of this fabric happens because of traumas, emotions and stress. This is also a way from the past because it involves the patient to become in a state of semi-consciousness, or relaxed consciousness. Working directly on the etheric body of someone, instead of through medicinal herbs or concoctions, can also be used for mind control purposes. Also, the person is cured through psychic powers, which means he has been worked over by somebody else, who took on himself to reconfigurate or reorganize the wounded and deformed etheric body.

But maybe it's not what you do. Actually I was more talking about manipulations 'from the other side', from the etheric realm, as a manifestation of power potentially harmful for the Spirit.

Re: The galactic alignment of 2012 already happened......In 1998.

The whole idea about moving backwards in time and receiving communications from our higher selves in the future seems highly suspect to me. If it is really I in some distant future communicating with myself in the present, why am I viewing it all from the point of view of myself in the now? Why cant I switch to the perspective of myself in the future? Why is there a gap between myself in the now and myself in the future? I personally dont find any shared experience with "I" in the future. Everything that I experience I experience in the present moment.

Secondly, if past, present and future are existing simultaneously, why is it that I am constantly stuck in the present? Why cant I live through a day of my life in the past? Or can I?

I think we give to much weight to the whole idea of "I". When I wake up in the morning, I often have to remind myself of who I am in this life, what my responsibilities are and what I did yesteday. In my dreams and during astral projections, I am not the same person - I might be a woman, a savage in some jungle, a chinese worrior, or anything else. All these roles and personalities are just outward shells for something that observes and experiences. There is something immutable that keeps watching the play. I think that this very watcher is the only real thing out there. And this watcher watches your life too. You, as a man or a woman in this particular life and in this particular time is just the next play that the watcher is watching.

When we receive communications from somebody, when we hear the inner voice of somebody that most of us tend to call "Higher Self" it is not the voice of John or Mary some thousand years in the future. It is more likely the voice of some super consciousness that is not bound by the limit of particular personalities of Johns and Marys.

Re: The galactic alignment of 2012 already happened......In 1998.

GenSek wrote:
When we receive communications from somebody, when we hear the inner voice of somebody that most of us tend to call "Higher Self" it is not the voice of John or Mary some thousand years in the future. It is more likely the voice of some super consciousness that is not bound by the limit of particular personalities of Johns and Marys.
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I tend to feel that is correct.  I just can't conclude with that thought.  In otherwords, I can't define specific boundaries to that which we are limited in our communications.  Knowledge and intuition is very critical, especially intuition, which is greatly enhanced by the possession of a great deal of knowledge.  Which is for the very first priority of knowing just who or what a person is communicating with.  So, when the above is really not the major aspect of a channeller, but rather, simply becoming open and passive, this probably means they really do not know the identity of that which they are communicating.  I read somewhere, that in times past, if anyone was aspiring to be an Adept, they immediately eliminated that possibility if they initiate these type of correspondences. 

I feel that much of the Bible when it was hurriedly compiled by Constantine in an attempt to coalesce the people in his realm, for security and stability in an empire beset by regular assaults from outside marauders, actually used as much of its material, stories related to Initiation into the Mysteries.  Many warnings were given to aspirants not to dabble in this area as they were not prepared and corruption received through these communications was pretty much guaranteed. 

This knowledge was all the external information which may be required, that I will not even begin to attempt to list due to my inadequacy, but just as important, if not more so is to know yourself.

Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement.
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You have to believe in the impossible in order to become.

Re: The galactic alignment of 2012 already happened......In 1998.

hello!

hehehe!....maybe we can all agree that we don't really know what is going on with something as large as our galaxy?  or how it relates to Earth?  hmmm...

i don't mean to snuff debate on it, but coming off like saying this that or the other based on some earthly events and more specifically "movies" from one city "hollywood" in a country "usa"...etc.  i mean, we really have no idea.  are there maybe a million other things to focus on?  what if lyra is right and its already past? then we are all waiting for something that's already happened?  what if lyra is wrong and it will happen in 2012?  do we really know what "it" is?  what if nothing will happen for another 32,000 year cycle and we move into another hindu yuga of giants or something?  does ANY of that have a bearing or influence on what is happening in YOUR life, in YOUR town, in YOUR family, in YOUR country?  i mean, really, that is a lot of hubris in thinking that we can change manipulate or influence things that we probably don't even have a sensitive enough instrument to detect (i.e. our human bodies/minds).

i know everyone here are the avant gaurde of the spiritual community in english speaking countries, so not to offend, just want to bring it down to mother earth a little bit. things like that are happening on such a massive scale i can't see why any individual would presume to understand.

now, if we had a wicked cool atlantean-type culture where all minds were melded into the harmonic frequencies of the earth and we had a healthy and day-to-day reparte with gaia, we just might be able to ride that wave!  to the streets soldiers of the One True Consciousness!

peace,
pulsar

"We must be the change we wish to see in the world."
                                       --Mohandas 'Mahatma' Ghandi

Man as he is now is asleep.  In order to change, we must first awaken.
                                       --Georges Ivanovich Gurdjieff

Re: The galactic alignment of 2012 already happened......In 1998.

pulsar wrote:

.......maybe we can all agree that we don't really know what is going on with something as large as our galaxy?  or how it relates to Earth?  hmmm...

i don't mean to snuff debate on it, but coming off like saying this that or the other based on some earthly events and more specifically "movies" from one city "hollywood" in a country "usa"...etc.  i mean, we really have no idea.  are there maybe a million other things to focus on?.........does ANY of that have a bearing or influence on what is happening in YOUR life, in YOUR town, in YOUR family, in YOUR country?  i mean, really, that is a lot of hubris in thinking that we can change manipulate or influence things that we probably don't even have a sensitive enough instrument to detect (i.e. our human bodies/minds).

It sounds to me like maybe you either really didn't read the opening post, or this thread in its entirety before commenting, or if you did, you misunderstood in a big way where I and others were coming from.

And that's about all I can really say on that.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: The galactic alignment of 2012 already happened......In 1998.

To echo the first post on this thread, yes it is interesting how much red-flag-waving there is around 2012. I think it originally originated from the Mayan calendar being calculated to end on that date. Yet over the past maybe 10 years or so, it's become the "in" thing to talk focus on.

There's a high probability that it's being over-hyped, of course. But how important was it in the first place? Even the Cassiopaeans, who did view 2012 as an important year, emphasized that this was a wave and not necessarily a specific event.

So, the question begs. Where do you want to be in 2012/12/21? What do you want to be doing, and why?

Food for thought... lest they become the opposite. wink