Re: The Dead Series.

Spi wrote:
kid mongo wrote:

Gee, Spi. And here I am thinking how close we were becoming.

I know. And that's why you should never trust anybody, kid mongo. Not even the girl who's interviewing for Desteni..

That was sarca- oh, never mind.

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

497 (edited by Spi 2007-12-24 17:37:32)

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My bad, but those are little points kid mongo. I hope you're not ignoring more of what I said.

498 (edited by z3n3rg 2007-12-24 18:26:07)

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So 'Anu and Co' are mind consciousness systems too?  Or not?

If they aren't, then polarity exists in spite of so called mind consciousness systems.

Or wait, it's just a mis-understanding.  And no one understood it for 350,000,000,000 years until some girl straightens them out a couple years ago.

So all the texts in the short recorded history on Earth had no effect.  Not the Declaration of Indepence that states "All men are created equal".  None of the spiritual texts that told that all are One.  And nothing before that.  Nope, just some girl after 11 births and deaths of the universe.  And now all that's left is humans to surrender their individuality for 'oneness and equality'.

Then everything is right across all existence.  'Anu and Co' are all one and equal with humans now.  No other species exist that seek to enslave.  All consciousness systems are gone.  All that was required was "realization thru revelation".  I'm sure existence feels stupid about now.  Couldn't figure it out for 350,000,000,000 years until some girl, one of those horrible humans no less, figures it all out and fixes the entire universe.  Now all the demonsionals have all the answers and are talking back through this girl to help out the last of the straglers to board the 'oneness and equality' train.  Woo Woo.

I guess I'm just going to have to screw up the plans of all existence.  I don't trust demonsionals.  There is something quite off about them.  I will not regress myself to a lower common denominator to become part of their hive mentality.  So now, oneness and equality will never happen.  I'm boarding the 'separate and unequal' train because obviously there are only two choices.  No amount of seal beating video footage is going to change my mind.  I suppose everyone, everywhere will now shun me for evermore.

Well fine.  I'll be on the other side of existence doing my thing of being all separate and unequal.  And whatever demonsionals exist in me can leave now unless they wish to be separate and unequal too.  If only the demonsionals made sense, didn't act retarded, and didn't use known manipulation strategies this would never have happened.  We would all be sitting around doing nothing together for eternity.  But now, it's all screwed up.  Why oh why demonsionals did you have to be so illogical?  Why did you have to rant and rave like demented senile psychotics?  Why did you have to try to use guilt to spread your wonderful message of hive living?  Didn't you know this is what the bible did?  And didn't you know that some of us find these tired old tactics repulsive?

I'm sorry existence.  I'm just not cut out for lowering my frequency and spending the rest of eternity breathing.  I have things to do.  Universes to create.  Infinite aspects of infinity to explore.  I just can't sit around singing kumbaya forever.  The hyperversal aliens are just going to have to try to sing in harmony without me.

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Spi, all you gotta do is go back a page or more to see his own sarcasm.  Quite a few posts of it.

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z3r, you're really ruining it for me.

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

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Sorry bro, you know how it is.  Gotta walk that lonely road to infinity ya know.  It'll take up all my time.  But, I'll come back to this side of existence to visit now and again.  We'll talk on old times.  We'll hang out with Anu and throw a few back.  It's just something I have to do for now.  It ain't good bye, it's just 'see ya later'.  And you know, you're always welcome to come hang out in the universe I create.  If you're ever in the neighborhood look me up.  Just go as far as you can see then hang a left.

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z3n3rg wrote:

So 'Anu and Co' are mind consciousness systems too?  Or not?

If they aren't, then polarity exists in spite of so called mind consciousness systems.

Or wait, it's just a mis-understanding.  And no one understood it for 350,000,000,000 years until some girl straightens them out a couple years ago.

Stranger things have happened. Would it make you feel better if some "boy" was the portal?

So all the texts in the short recorded history on Earth had no effect.  Not the Declaration of Indepence that states "All men are created equal".

Um, as I recall, Jefferson was a slave-owner. Seems like his version of "equality" was conditional. And please, don't bring religious texts into this. Reptilian designed without exception.

Then everything is right across all existence.  'Anu and Co' are all one and equal with humans now.  No other species exist that seek to enslave.  All consciousness systems are gone.  All that was required was "realization thru revelation".  I'm sure existence feels stupid about now.  Couldn't figure it out for 350,000,000,000 years until some girl, one of those horrible humans no less, figures it all out and fixes the entire universe.  Now all the demonsionals have all the answers and are talking back through this girl to help out the last of the straglers to board the 'oneness and equality' train.  Woo Woo.

Hey. you act like it is impossible for existence to be enslaved. I think it's at least a possibility...

I guess I'm just going to have to screw up the plans of all existence.  I don't trust demonsionals.  There is something quite off about them.  I will not regress myself to a lower common denominator to become part of their hive mentality.

Don't be afraid. You will not become part of "The Borg." There's still individuality in equality. Or do you go for "separate but equal?"

Well fine.  I'll be on the other side of existence doing my thing of being all separate and unequal.

Who saw that coming?

And whatever demonsionals exist in me can leave now unless they wish to be separate and unequal too.  If only the demonsionals made sense, didn't act retarded, and didn't use known manipulation strategies this would never have happened.  We would all be sitting around doing nothing together for eternity.  But now, it's all screwed up.  Why oh why demonsionals did you have to be so illogical?  Why did you have to rant and rave like demented senile psychotics?  Why did you have to try to use guilt to spread your wonderful message of hive living?  Didn't you know this is what the bible did?  And didn't you know that some of us find these tired old tactics repulsive?

How else did you expect to be tested? yikes

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

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It's too late for me now.  I'm a lost cause.  Just go on without me.  I'm sorry it had to end like this.  It's just too much to bear.  Too much 'oneness and equality' for a poor mind consciousness system such as myself.  It seems I'm just meant to be separate and unequal.

Re: The Dead Series.

kid mongo wrote:

Stranger things have happened. Would it make you feel better if some "boy" was the portal?

It wouldn't matter if it was a horse that was the portal and it's name was Mr. Ed.

Um, as I recall, Jefferson was a slave-owner. Seems like his version of "equality" was conditional. And please, don't bring religious texts into this. Reptilian designed without exception.

It doesn't matter who penned the concepts.  The concepts remain the same.  They can't be wrong in one instance and right the next.  The concepts existed long before Desteni was a twinkle in Anu's eye.  That cannot be refuted.  All the concepts are wrong until the demonsionals say it?  Doesn't work that way.  A concept is a concept no matter who twists it to their own ends.

Hey. you act like it is impossible for existence to be enslaved. I think it's at least a possibility...

Not impossible.  Just highly improbable.  I'm sure Anu's ego would like to think he enslaved existence.  That would be some feather for the cap.

Don't be afraid. You will not become part of "The Borg." There's still individuality in equality. Or do you go for "separate but equal?"

Yes, I'm gripped with fear.  If only someone would produce 1,000s of videos to help me overcome this fear.  You are correct though.  I'm not going to become part of some bastardized version of oneness and equality.  Thank you 'fear' for keeping me from becoming some zombie parrot for the Annunaki.

How else did you expect to be tested? yikes

Oh, I don't know.  Maybe a continuous stream of twisted belief systems trying to use guilt and other forms of emotional and intellectual manipulation and coercion.  Oh wait, nevermind.

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It doesn't matter who penned the concepts.  The concepts remain the same.  They can't be wrong in one instance and right the next.  The concepts existed long before Desteni was a twinkle in Anu's eye.  That cannot be refuted.  All the concepts are wrong until the demonsionals say it?  Doesn't work that way.  A concept is a concept no matter who twists it to their own ends.

"Refuted?" If these wonderful concepts are never applied, then they remain useless. The concepts might be sound, certainly. But just writing about: "All men are created equal" is laughable when one considers this "concept" has only been applied on the most piddling scale. The dimensionals give good common sense perspective when they say, repeatedly, that knowledge without application is useless.

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

506 (edited by Spi 2007-12-25 09:24:26)

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The Desteni sound philosophy is illogical, kid mongo.

To clear up on somethings, everything is light seems vague but was explained more by C's that everything is made up of gravity.

Q: (L) Gravity seems to be a property of matter. Is that correct?
A: And.... antimatter!
Q: (L) Is the gravity that is a property of antimatter "antigravity?" Or, is it just gravity on the other side, so to speak?
A: Binder. Gravity binds all that is physical with all that is ethereal through unstable gravity waves!!!
Q: (L) Is antimatter what we refer to as "ethereal" existence?
A: Pathway to. Doorway to.
Q: (L) Do unstable gravity waves emanate from 7th density?
A: Throughout. There is no emanation point.
Q: (L) So, they are a property or attribute of the existence of matter, and the binder of matter to ethereal ideation?
A: Sort of, but they are a property of anti-matter, too!
Q: (L) So, through unstable gravity waves, you can access other densities?
A: Everything.
Q: (L) Can you generate them mechanically?
A: Generation is really collecting and dispersing.
Q: (L) Okay, what kind of a device would collect and disperse gravity waves? Is this what spirals do?
A: On the way to.When you wrote "Noah" where did you place gravity?
Q: (L) I thought that gravity was an indicator of the consumption of electricity; that gravity was a byproduct of a continuous flow of electrical energy...
A: Gravity is no byproduct! It is the central ingredient of all existence!
Q: (L) I was evaluating by electric flow and consumption... and I was thinking that electricity was evidence of some sort of consciousness, and that gravity was evidence that a planet that had it, had life...
A: We have told you before that planets and stars are windows. And where does the gravity go?
Q: (L) Well, where does gravity go? The sun is a window. Even our planet must be a window!
A: You have it too!! Gravity is all there is.
Q: (L) Is light the emanation of gravity?
A: No.
Q: (L) What is light?
A: Gravity. Gravity is "God."
Q: (L) But, I thought God was light?
A: If gravity is everything, what isn't it? Light is energy expression generated by gravity. Please name something that is not gravity.
Q: (L) Well, if gravity is everything, there is nothing that is not gravity;, well, fine! What is absolute nothingness?
A: A mere thought.
Q: (L) So, there is no such thing as non-existence?
A: Yes, there is.
Q: (L) Do thoughts produce gravity?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Does sound produce gravity?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Can sound manipulate gravity?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Can it be done with the human voice?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Can it be done tonally or by power through thought?
A: Both. Gravity is manipulated by sound when thought manipulated by gravity chooses to produce sound which manipulates gravity.

Q: (L) Now, did the fellow who built the Coral Castle spin in his airplane seat while thinking his manipulations into place?
A: No. He spun when gravity chose to manipulate him to spin in order to manipulate gravity.
Q: (L) Does gravity have consciousness?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is it ever possible for the individual to do the choosing, or is it gravity that IS him that chose?
A: The gravity that was inside him was all the gravity in existence.

Q: (L) Well, I thought the Sufis were tough! (F) Well, it's probably because of your studies that this door opened. (L) Good grief! What have I done! Alright. I am confused.
A: No you are not.
Q: (L) Then, just put it this way: I am befuddled and overloaded.
A: Befuddling is fun!
Q: (L) Well, I guess that if any of this is going to be of particular significance to us, then we will certainly find out the details as we go along.
A: How many times do we have to tell you?!?! The entire sum total of all existence exists within each of you, and vice versa.
Q: (L) Then what is the explanation for the "manyness" that we perceive?
A: Perception of 3rd density.
Q: (L) So, the entire universe is inside me... okay, that's... I understand. Oddly enough, I do. The problem is accessing it, stripping away the veils.
A: That is the fun part.
Q: (L) So, the fellow who built the Coral Castle was able to access this. Consistently or only intermittantly?
A: Partially.
Q: (L) According to what I understand, at the speed of light, there is no mass, no time, and no gravity. How can this be?
A: No mass, no time, but yes, gravity.
Q: (L) A photon has gravity?
A: Gravity supercedes light speed.
Q: (L) Gravity waves are faster than light?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What would make a gravity wave unstable?
A: Utilization.

Q: (L) I feel like I am missing a really big point here...
A: You are, but you can only find it at your own pace. And, on that note, good night.

Guess what molecules are made of? Atoms. Guess what atoms are made of? Subatomic particles. Guess what they are made of? Energy.

Sound cannot propagate through vacuum.
Light does.

Sound is slower than light. Gravity supersedes light.


And what happens if the knowledge that is being applied doesn't help you rather it is used against you, kid mongo? Ever thought of that? The mind doesn't stop from knowledge being applied, rather holds the knowledge for us to use at the right time.

Also, forgiving is to stop the wheel of karma. You went on a path of forgiveness but also went on the path of unforgiveness.

Spirit of Ra wrote:

I.  IN GENERAL

A. FORGIVENESS REMOVES KARMA

QUESTION: You stated that forgiveness removes karma. This includes forgiveness not only of other selves but also forgiveness of self as well. Is this correct?

RA: You are correct. Forgiveness of other-self is forgiveness of self. (B1, 73)

QUESTION:   Would you define karma?

RA:   Our understanding of karma is that which maybe called inertia. Those actions which are put into motion will continue. The stoppage of the inertia of action may be called forgiveness. (B2, 51)

Desteni twists a lot of things. I mean it. Oneness somehow seems like Nothingness. Everything is proven to be energy, but they say it is sound. And forgiveness is no longer applied with other-selves.



What do you plan to do with this world kid mongo? Continuing to post these videos on NR? Talk to yourself everyday and not think at all? One relationship you had that you couldn't stand so you just give up thus leaving that wheel of karma that you did not stop with true-forgiveness? What are you going to do?


Oh yeah. Sit around and breathe. Enjoy.

About me, what I'm going to do would be very similar to what z3n3rg's doing. Not accepting Desteni to board on the same separate and unequal train. big_smile

Also, it's not 'fear'. Get over that, kid mongo. Just because we don't want to be feed by their water doesn't mean we fear it.
Here's more of my perception: If they were right about how the rest of each and every single human that is not with Desteni are wrong, I would have no problem in practicing to get rid of my systems.

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Spi wrote:

What do you plan to do with this world kid mongo? Continuing to post these videos on NR?

Yep.

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

Re: The Dead Series.

kid mongo wrote:

"Refuted?" If these wonderful concepts are never applied, then they remain useless. The concepts might be sound, certainly. But just writing about: "All men are created equal" is laughable when one considers this "concept" has only been applied on the most piddling scale. The dimensionals give good common sense perspective when they say, repeatedly, that knowledge without application is useless.

You say that as though it's some grand epiphany.  That if not for the demonsionals we would never had known to actually apply knowledge.  That's a bit silly really.  You don't put gas in the car and expect to be at your destination.  And just because the majority of people don't apply good philosophy doesn't mean that they are going to now because the demonsionals say so.  They aren't.  And it's not because they didn't understand that, oh my god you actually have to apply what you learn. 

Doctors don't just learn doctoring and expect to make a bunch of money.  They have to apply that knowledge.  Lawyers don't just learn lawyering and expect to be paid.  They too have to apply the knowledge and go to court and read up on more case law and listen to people's stories of how it went down and talk to judges and so forth and so on.  If people didn't apply knowledge we wouldn't have a society.

But why don't they apply the higher order philosophical knowledge when they apply all this other knowledge?  Because they aren't getting paid for it.  There are no tangible benefits to the average human.  Only those that are ready will actually apply the knowledge.  Only those that understand that intangible benefits trump tangible benefits.  And it doesn't matter how many times you tell them.  If they aren't ready they won't get it.  The reality is that the majority of humanity isn't ready to apply the higher order philosophical knowledge. 

In case that doesn't show that the demonsionals are just repeating things that have been around for awhile, here's a quote.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
May 31, 1997

Q: And acquiring knowledge is akin to acquiring energy? Or light? Light energy?
A: Not exactly. That would be like saying that "filling up" at the gas station is akin to acquiring speed.

Q: So, knowledge and light are like the gas for the car, but speed comes from utilization?
A: Yes.

Q: And utilization means...
A: Knowledge application which generates energy, which, in turn, generates light.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: The Dead Series.

z3n3rg wrote:

You say that as though it's some grand epiphany.

Hey, you brought it up.

That if not for the demonsionals we would never had known to actually apply knowledge.

I haven't come across that point of view in my experience with the material. The point was that the New Age loveburger-type tends to soak up spirituality without acting on it.

But why don't they apply the higher order philosophical knowledge when they apply all this other knowledge?  Because they aren't getting paid for it.  There are no tangible benefits to the average human.  Only those that are ready will actually apply the knowledge.  Only those that understand that intangible benefits trump tangible benefits.  And it doesn't matter how many times you tell them.  If they aren't ready they won't get it.  The reality is that the majority of humanity isn't ready to apply the higher order philosophical knowledge.

Eventually, humans will prove oneness and equality for themselves, either on earth or in the dimensions. From what the dimensions tell us, I'd want to do it here first, because believing in the fairy tale picture book of ascensions, angels, masters, gods and goddesses isn't going to help you there.

In case that doesn't show that the demonsionals are just repeating things that have been around for awhile, here's a quote.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
May 31, 1997

Q: And acquiring knowledge is akin to acquiring energy? Or light? Light energy?
A: Not exactly. That would be like saying that "filling up" at the gas station is akin to acquiring speed.

Q: So, knowledge and light are like the gas for the car, but speed comes from utilization?
A: Yes.

Q: And utilization means...
A: Knowledge application which generates energy, which, in turn, generates light.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Not sure why you are so obsessed about which message being "first." The White Light representatives like the Cassiopeians often gave about 75-95% of the truth, only to enslave humans with the shit they left out. For example, often in these channeled messages were adoring reverence for "Light" and "consciousness," conveniently leaving out that consciousness and light were an eminence front (it's a put-on) for their enslavement program; a trick on humans.

I'm very sorry, z. You must be crushed to realize that you have been led around like a lost puppy by these profound messengers of the White Light. The Cassiopeians  were just another unit of astute bullshit, and you and Spi fell for it. Hey, ring 'em up for me and tell them kid mongo said they're scared chicken yella, and I dare them to repudiate the Desteni message. OH, I FORGOT! They no longer exist since they were an automated, programmed bullshitting device. All Hail Bucky Beaver!! woo woo. lol

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

510

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OH, I FORGOT! They no longer exist since they were an automated, programmed bullshitting device.

kid mongo, how about some SOTT wine if you like?

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4893/cassiowineiq9.png

http://www.sott.net/signs/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2007

Laura wrote:

Indeed.  But, after "all that mess," we understood that it is better to convey the understanding/information via the persepctive of the Signs Page since that is the context of much of it.  The parts of it that relate to our quest for higher understanding are also conveyed in articles and commentary.   Now and then, if an issue comes up in our groups or in the forum that might be elucidated by some of this material in a more direct way, we might quote it.  But again, after "all that mess," we learned that as long as psychopaths seek to steal and co-opt and twist, we have the right to preserve, protect and maintain.

Looks like they still exist kid mongo. Can you dig it?