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Topic: the wizard of oz

So the other night I was a bit drunk and bored, so I started googling the urban myth about the ghost on the set in 3 Men and a Baby.  Yuh, I need to get out more smile

On my e-travels, I came across another urban myth about a munchkin committing suicide on the set of the Wizard of Oz.  Which I  found plausible, because from what understand, the actors who played munchkins were badly underpaid, and there was a lot of dissent among them that the dog was earning more than them.  Also, given the year when this film was made, life was probably very very hard for a dwarf.

Found a few snippets of footage on youtube from different scenes, but I think if it happened, then it was most likely in this shot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAfByQmMoYg
If you look under the letters 'KIN' in the heading, you'll see a figure who looks like they're swinging, rather than dancing.  But it's hard to tell because the quality is so bad.

You've probably all heard that if you play the wizard of oz with the sound turned down and play Dark Side of the Moon on CD they sync exactly.  I can't see how this ties in to a suicide, but have always found it odd, so worth noting.

Not to mention movie's reputation for being used in mind control programming.

WTF is with this film??? 

Has anyone heard of this myth before?  Does anyone know for a fact, if any suicide (whether in the above shot or not) took place on the set? 

Also any other creepy, random tidbits about the Wizard of Oz should be posted here. 

Thanks smile

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Here's a great link with a bunch of information on the Wizard Of Oz Programming: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/oz.htm

The man who wrote the book The Wizard of Oz was a member of the Theosophical Society. L. Frank Baum lived in South Dakota and created The Wizard of Oz book as a theosophical fairy tale incorporating the “ancient wisdom” of the Mystery Religions. The books have so much material from inside the secret world of the Illuminati, that the few who understand the Illuminati wonder if Baum wasn’t an insider.

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Remember the rumors that Pink Floyd's Dark side of the moon album synchronized  with the wizard of oz film.

The track "the great gig in sky " synchronized with the tornado bit in the film is weird.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNbv0L1x0iA

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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Barefoot Doc wrote:

Remember the rumors that Pink Floyd's Dark side of the moon album synchronized  with the wizard of oz film.

The track "the great gig in sky " synchronized with the tornado bit in the film is weird.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNbv0L1x0iA

I've listened to the dark side of the moon with the wizard of oz.  Bizarro to say  the the least.

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The C's said that The Wizard of Oz was inspired by 4D
STO's.

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Without exception the most mind bending predictive programming film ever to get cranked out of Hollywood. The targeted audience were 3 to 5 year olds. Three directors had their hands in this. The first two thought they were actually making a children's film. Two hundred midgets and pastel ponies , what were they thinking?

" The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it "

Ayn Rand

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Dark occultists have this old cliche of inverting positive symbols for negative purposes. Simplest examples is inverting the cross, or inverting the pentagram. So if Wizard of Oz was a positively inspired story, all the more reason for it to be inverted and used for something like mind control programming. The more sacred, positive, or innocent something is, the more the sickos jump to defile it. Maybe the law of action and reaction.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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montalk wrote:

Dark occultists have this old cliche of inverting positive symbols for negative purposes. Simplest examples is inverting the cross, or inverting the pentagram.

Don't forget the swastika.  Probably one of the nastiest perversions of an ancient positive spiritual symbol that I know of.

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in high school, my psychology teacher showed us the clip.  it was when they are walking in the woods.  if you look closely in the background forest, you can see what looks like a midget hop off a ladder and dangle.  im pretty sure its before "lions and tigers and bears O MY".

she also showed us hidden shit in disney cartoons.  i dont know what her point was though. 

"darkside of the rainbow" is on youtube.  you can watch the whole thing in 16 minute clips.  but its horribly boring, even with bong in hand.

pardon my fear, friend

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I thought I read somewhere that you could play Pink Floyd's album Meddle with Wizard of Oz too.

As a candle burning on, in the breezy shades of night, I keep up my faith and underset my hope, to call on a realm of light --Little Light of Love --Eric Serra --The Fifth Element (movie soundtrack)

Waving banners, swinging swords, queens and kings and other lords, and the battles of our pride, greed and hunger deep inside, all the sorrow born of pain, cruelty and cruelty again, who will stop this vicious spin, Open Arms and Let Love In  --My Heart Calling  --Moa and Eric Serra --The Messenger (movie soundtrack)

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pickinNgrinnin wrote:

in high school, my psychology teacher showed us the clip.  it was when they are walking in the woods.  if you look closely in the background forest, you can see what looks like a midget hop off a ladder and dangle.  im pretty sure its before "lions and tigers and bears O MY".

she also showed us hidden shit in disney cartoons.  i dont know what her point was though. 

"darkside of the rainbow" is on youtube.  you can watch the whole thing in 16 minute clips.  but its horribly boring, even with bong in hand.

her point was more then likely subliminal messages..

This isn't pancheta DAVE!

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if you look closely in the background forest, you can see what looks like a midget hop off a ladder and dangle.

I thought that was a bird...but you've seen it, I haven't.  Do you think it was genuine?

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i honestly dont know, and frankly i dont really care; but it did LOOK genuine when watching it.

BTW she also showed subliminal stuff in disney cartoons(Alladin, lion king, etc).  and i kinda got the message that she was showing us wierd subliminal stuff.  also she was hot, so i probably spent more time fantasizing than learning big_smile

pardon my fear, friend

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I just received this via e-mail:

The Real Meaning Of "The Wizard of Oz"

"The Wizard of Oz," written by L. Frank Baum, is not a mere child's story.

What is "Oz" a symbol for? Ounces. What is measured in ounces? Gold. What is the yellow brick road? Bricks or ingot bars of gold. The character known as the Straw Man represents that fictitious, ALL CAPS, legal fiction - a PERSON, the Federal U.S. Government created with the same spelling as your birth name. Remember what the Straw Man wanted from the Wizard of Oz? A Brain! No juristic person - legal fiction - paper corporation has a brain because he/she has no breath of life.  What did he get in place of a brain? A certificate: a Birth Certificate for a new legal creation. He was proud of his new legal status, plus all the other legalisms he was granted. Now he becomes the epitome of the brainless sack of straw who was given a certificate in place of a grain of common sense.

Now, what about the Tin Man? Does Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN) recall anything to mind? The poor TIN Man just stood there mindlessly doing his work until his body literally froze up and stopped functioning. He worked himself to death because he had neither heart nor soul. He's the heartless and emotionless creature robotically carrying out his daily task as though he were already dead. He's the ox pulling the plow and the mule toiling under the yoke. These days, his task masters just oil him nightly with beer and place him in front of a hypnotic television until his very existence no longer has any meaning or value. His masters keep him cold on the outside and heartless on the inside in order to control any emotion or feeling that might arise.

The Cowardly Lion was always too frightened to stand up for himself. Of course, he was a bully and a big mouth when it came to picking on those smaller than he. (Have you ever noticed how bullies are really the biggest cowards? They act as though they have great courage, but, in reality, have none at all. They roar, but with no teeth of authority to back them up.) When push came to shove, the Cowardly Lion always buckled under and whimpered when anyone of any size or stature challenged him. He wanted courage from the Grand Wizard, so he was awarded a medal of "official" recognition. Now, although remaining a coward, his official status allowed him to be a bully, but with officially recognized authority. (He's not unlike the Attorneys who hide behind the Middle Courts of the Temple Bar.) et al ad infinitum.

What about the trip through the field of poppies? Did you notice how this had no narcotic effect on the Straw Man (no brain) or the Tin Man (no heart or soul)? They weren't real people, so drugs could not influence them. The Wizard of Oz was written at the turn of the century, so how could the author have known America was going to be drugged? The Crown has been playing the drug cartel game for centuries. Just look up the history of Hong Kong and the Opium Wars. The Crown already had valuable experience conquering all of China with drugs, so why not the rest of the world? What was the Emerald City? The Federal Reserve System.

Who finally exposed the Wizard for what he really was? Toto, the ugly (or cute, depending on your perspective) and somewhat annoying little dog. Toto means "in total, all together; Latin in toto." What was it that the witch wanted after she alleged that the little dog had bitten her? TOTO. ... everything. Notice how Toto was not scared of the Great Wizard's theatrics, yet he was so small in size, compared to the Wizard, that no one seemed to notice him? The smoke, flames and holographic images of Oz were designed to frighten people into doing as the Great Wizard commanded. Toto simply padded over, looked behind the curtain (the COURT, etc.), saw it was a scam, started barking until others paid attention to him and came to see what all the barking was about. Who was behind the curtain? Just an ORDINARY PERSON controlling the levers that created the illusion of the Great Wizard's power and authority. When Toto pulled back the curtain and completely exposed him, the charade was at an end. (The veil hiding the corporate legal fiction and its false courts was removed.) The Wizard's game was UP. What was he after all? .... a con-man. A FRAUD.

We can see, in this tale, just how loud the bark from a little dog can be. How about YOUR bark? How big is it? Most of us remain silent and wait to be given whatever food and recognition, if any, by our legal master. Let us not forget those pesky flying monkeys. What perfect mythical creatures to represent the Bar Association Attorneys who attack and control the little people for the Great Crown Wizard, the powerful and grand Bankers of Oz: GOLD! How, finally, was the evil witch destroyed? .... pure, clean water LIQUIDATION! How, at last, did Dorothy get home? She simply clicked her heels. She always had the power, and SO DO WE! What would it take to expose the Wizard for what he is, tearing away his veils? We each need only a brain, a heart and soul --- and COURAGE. Then, and perhaps of the greatest importance, we need to learn HOW to WORK TOGETHER. Only "in TOTO," WORKING TOGETHER as ONE Body of the King of Kings, (whatever name or form that may take for each of us), can we have the freedom given to us. Thought this would be refreshing in light of this continual topic and need for resolution.

bh edit: ... to her benefit, what often protected Dorothy throughout her journey was the ruby slippers, which were previously in the possession of the late Witch of the East.  In Baum's original story written at the turn of the century, Dorothy's shoes were silver.  In other words, she was backed by silver and, therefore, protected against anything that might come her way.  The shoes always kept their value and strength even against a scary new banker (or witch in this case).  Interestingly, the movie was made just shortly after the Great Depression, which included the government's vicious "gold grab" on behalf of the bankers and wall street.

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