16 Reply by Moralman

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Re: The universe after 2012?

Dear Zonabi
kind regards
Well I expect that the Nordics will rule and possibly the ET souls will help them.
Of course if there are other alien species who are STO souls then obviously they would play their part.
My belief is that by 2012 battles will take place in space where all of the Alien STS souls will be banished in Orion and the STS souls of humanity will join them a short time later.
I am not entirely sure about humanity being wiped out or whether they survive-I am sure that the Alien STO souls will want to preserve the positive aspects of humanity and STO souls in human form but who knows.
I think humanity needs superior elders and teachers-yes it is good to allow us to evolve but I feel that we were the victims of many scams and manipulations from other realms in the past anyway.
We need to evolve and perhaps the advanced ET souls can teach us.
yours thankfully
John

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Re: The universe after 2012?

Xenopope,
I'm bringing this topic to the top as I think that it will address your question.  Of course, this is a huge topic.

18 Reply by Moralman

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Dear Friends
kind regards
I have a few more questions about the World after 2012.
1. What will the family unit be like after 2012?
2. What exactly is the 12 strand DNA that is being put in reference to 2012?
3. What exactly is the Pleiadian Light Body DNA Activation that is being put in reference to 2012?
4. Do you think that everyone will find or be with their twin flame by 2012?
5. Apparently all karma,deformities and illnesses etc will be removed by 2012-is this true?
If you could get back to me A.S.A.P I'd appreciate it.
yours thankfully
John

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  • Registered: 2004-09-03

Re: The universe after 2012?

Moralman wrote:

3. What exactly is the Pleiadian Light Body DNA Activation that is being put in reference to 2012?

okay I'll take a stab at the Pleiadian Light Body one - there's this photon belt that originates in the center of our galaxy and it consists of high frequency energy. So, this photon belt provides our planet with a very rare opportunity to make a cosmic evolutionary leap straight out of the physical 3rd density only during the time when our planet is passing through the photon belt. Earth only comes in contact with the photon belt once every some odd thousands of years (26,000?) and it lasts [correct me] a couple thousand years. This cosmic evolutionary leap is only possible for those who are capable of embodyment of the 'light body' so from what I hear there will be those whose bodies cannot 'cope' with the high frequency energy necessary for the leap and those people will unfortunately loose their physical bodies on this planet and re-incarnate elsewhere.

but . . . maybe they won't die . . . maybe the DNA activation itself is what makes us into a light body capable of withstanding the high frequency energies . . .

you can read about the photon belt online it is usually found at 2012 or Pleiadean sites . . .

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Re: The universe after 2012?

The C's have a different sort of interpretation.  According to them, as I understand, there is a wave that comes every 309,000 years.  They described the wave as 'hyper-kinetic sensate'.  It will cause a splitting of Earth into a 3D one and a 4D one which will co-exist at different frequencies, 4D sort of superimposed on 3D.  I don't know what will happen, though.  Seems like one or both of these theories is disinfo.
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21 Reply by Atlantis (edited by Atlantis 2004-09-29 01:38:13)

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  • Registered: 2004-09-08

Re: The universe after 2012?

Moralman wrote:

Dear Friends
kind regards
I was wondering if the enlightened people on this forum like Montalk could please explain in detail what life on Earth after 2012 will be like.

Everything is possible. 2012 is not necessary an End of Time.

When people believe something about 2012 as an end point in time, life, dimension or whatever, this probably is a sign of being mind-controlled by the ruling powers these days.

There exists a wide installed mind-program among many people with made by  methods like MK-ULTRA; the so called  "End of time" programming"or "suicide 2012" programming. This is, of course, to prevent people to think for themselves when Earthly changes are getting bigger.

Be very carefull in your 2012 fantasies. 2012 seems to be a very powerfull TRIGGER-symbol.

Some people are calling this the "golden age", "the transformation" and "the wave".
What will the World be like?

That depends on what we believe that will happen.

I'd like it to be explained in great detail.
1. What will the nations be like in terms of Moral, political and economical terms and what about poor nations like India and Africa?

Africa is planned by the Illuminati to be completety destructed (see Nigeria these days)

2. Will Atlantis arise again?

No idea.

3. Will America regain its power but be a positive force?

The USA did never had any power. The USA is a Tobacco company owned by the Windsor family since the 17th century.

4. What about the other nations?

I don't know. I can just speak for myself.
Maybe only the Maya nation/race and their genetics have something to do with 2012 in relation to a sub-Pleiadian breeding program. I don't know the details.

5. Where will the Illuminati and the Satanic bloodlines be after 2012?

Depends on what we want where and what they will be.
They do not decide on this. We do, and only if we want to do.

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I think that everything is indeed possible.  I think that it may indeed be a trap if a person thought that everything will take care of itself in 2012.  That type of thinking could be related to mind-influence programming.

I imagine that each of us is here on this planet because we have a role to play or at least something to learn.

With regard to belief, it is something that I try to avoid altogether.  I'm defining belief as thinking something is true without question.  Rather than relying on belief, I prefer to consider flexible possibilities.

One of the possibilities that I consider is that there may be a large qualititative shift in the way that consciousness occurs on this planet.  This shift may be coming up within the next decade.

In the coming years, I think that being flexible will be increasingly important as the level of change gets larger in several areas including Earth systems and the economy.

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wandering1 wrote:

I talked with David Wilcock (www.ascension2000.com) about this topic.  The following is the main part of what I can remember from what we talked about in this area.

I consider the following to be a possibility and I am not saying that this is "how it will be." I don't think that we'll really know just how it will be until it happens.

At the transition point, a surge of energy will come from the Sun.  It will basically destroy 3d life as we know it.  There will be very few plant or animal or human survivors after this major energy input, and given the 3d conditions they will likely not live long. 

A "clean-up" crew of higher density entitities (4d and maybe higher) will come in and detoxify the planet.

Entities will then come back to re-populate the planet.  Except for 4d will generally not be lived on the surface of the planet.  People will live in the atmosphere where the clouds are now (and further out).  For me, this brings the image to mind of heaven being in the clouds. 

4d is 100 times more harmonious than 3d.  It's a great place to be!  It feels great!  There may be some initial battles with 4d STS, but this planet is on a path to become 4d STO.  It will be harmonious and wonderful. 

Now I will switch to a few items of what 4d is like from my research in this area.  Individuals still have a recognizable individual form but in 4d, there are few if any secrets as all individuals are telepathically in contact with the other individuals.

It takes some time to learn how to live in 4d.  There will be a period where there will be no 3d souls coming to incarnate on Earth.  I understand that this is because if there were 3d souls here when Earth is newly a 4d planet, there would be a violation of free-will as the 4d entities would not have learned how to appear invisible to the 3d entities.

In terms of nations and politicians and TV I think that these may not exist as we currently understand them.

Dear Wandering1
kind regards
I thought that I would expand on "the universe after 2012" subject.
I have a link that resonates with David Wilcocks interpretation of what will happen in 2012.
http://www.wisdomofsolomon.com/psp17.html
Paul Solomon states things along the same lines as David Wilcock.
The Sun is obviously in connection to the Photon Belt, the higher density entities are the Shining ones and the World will populated by a new and more advanced population who value Morality, righteousness and justice.
I was under the impression that the Earth was becoming a 5th dimensional entity rather than just an eternal training ground for 3rd dimensional soul entities.
I am sometimes in confusion about what exactly the perception of a 3 dimensional soul entity is.
I think that if the Earth remains a 3 dimensional entity then the new 3 dimensional soul entitys arriving on this Earth in the future should be free from vermin and parasitic influences like Satanism, Illuminati and deceit.
The evil should end after 2012 and remain ended forever.
A New heaven and Earth forever.............the bible states this and I go along with it.
yours thankfully
John