Topic: Seditious Rosie

Well... slow news week, except for  Rosie O'Donnell apparently being the latest candidate for the media firing squad.

I'm sure most of you have seen or heard Rosie's comments on The View by now, or at least heard about them from some other talking head.

Her assertion was that World Trade 7 was the first time in history that fire had brought down a steel structure. It's curious why she'd think that, with Towers 1 and 2 having fell the same way hours before.... oh right the planes.

Estimates are that 30 million people watch The View, so this has got to be a little eye-opener to a lot of people who wouldn't otherwise have heard about WTC7, probably prompted quite a number of searches about it.

I can't decide if this is a limited hangout allowed by tptb, or if this is her view alone in the matter. If it was her opinion, and she held back somewhat the other details and evidence in order to make her statements more appetizing to the clueless dolts, then I understand.

But, naturally O'Reilly and his ilk are using this as an example of what happens when a celebrity goes against the grain, to try and discourage any rational thought, to make everything emotion-driven. A video site I frequent posted the clip- they have a comment section, and normally the comments on any particular video runs 3-500. The Rosie clip has at last check garnered nearly 6 THOUSAND comments.

I've seen poll info in the last few weeks about whether the American public believes the official story of 9/11, and it was running about 20% according to results. SO, 4/5 of Americans DO NOT believe the official story. If I am to go by the comments the Rosie clip got, however, then I would have to believe that it is more like 50/50, at best.

Yes I know there are plenty of thumbsuckers who register on those sites just to have an opportunity to be profane and stupid, but there were surprisingly many who had good info and links to 9/11 data pages, and were coming at it from a calm and educated angle. Didn't seem to matter much, the overall consensus was that "conspiracy theorists" should die and such.

So it was a little sad, seeing how so much of the youth, and even not-so-youth were armed with nothing but hateful and ignorant remarks. Yes, public education has indeed served its purpose on this issue, anything said in doubt of governmental authority and wisdom will be met with fire breathing vitriol.

My question is, do you think this will have any overall impact, or will she go the way of Charlie Sheen?

She is of course a known lesbian, so almost all of the negative comments are personal attacks, I don't remember there being as many personality trait- type comments directed at Charlie, but that one just sort of faded, and interestingly, her comments came almost exactly one year after Mr. Sheen's, is this all we get? One celeb per year, one conspiracy theory poster child to laugh at?

     .......sigh                              J

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Re: Seditious Rosie

They allow people that the general public won't like to talk about it so it can be said but rejected and they can move on to the next thing. Jordan Maxwell has said that the occult elite like to show the victim what they have done to it but watch them edit it away. It's just like all those other things the tv is showing of the truth in the beginning they have someone talking about the hidden things in this reality and than at the end they bring in the shills who debunk it. They give it to you and than they take it away so they remain safe. I think this relates to free will they need us to help them keep this going. The people reject the truth about this place and they get to keep it the way they like.

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I went on YouTube and watched the clip, and it just really warmed the cockles of my heart.  The 'shill' in this instance, wound up looking stupid and pathetic.  I can't decide if this was a propaganda move gone awry, or if Rosie just stepped up to the plate on her own and now they're dealing with her aftermath.  Either way, I'm not going to knock what se did, and I don't think it worked in favor of TPTB. 

One YouTube viewer responded simply with, "Boiling point."  I think those two words pretty much sum it up.  The frog is awakening, and if he plays his cards right, he won't be dinner.

4 (edited by Adama 2007-04-07 07:39:13)

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I think that if they let us see that kind of thing, it MUST be in their interest, it's just that we people are always a "ball rebound" later than them...
I was reading about Illuminati ten years ago, and there was only a few sites to talk about it, it was a kind of secret thing.
Free Masonery was still secret and there was not a lot of famous people claiming to be a part of it, and musea and TV speaking about it. "They" felt the wind coming their way at that time and thought about what to do later.
Letting people know that shit will angry them and they will feel terrible about who governs them. A good civil war would certainly serve NWO interests, as war always serves them.
We should care about very simple things between us humans like togetherness and let them throw their shit on TV and media.

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I tried to post the page, but couldn't get the site to post so had to do with just the address.
 
http://www.stoprosieendamerica.com/

6 (edited by ape-x 2007-04-08 09:39:09)

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Thanks for those vidlinks PJ, a few I had not seen. Rosie has been talking about this stuff for a few weeks now I take it.

I haven't kept up with all the developments, but it should be obvious for people with 2 brain cells to rub together that when the pundits and polits are this defensive, that there is something being hidden, and should be investigated.

She may continue on with this, but I think she just may be branded a nut- we will see what happens when she gets Prof. Jones, or whoever might be able to back her up, to talk.

In any case, she deserves respect for going out on a limb, especially with the daytime audience.                  J

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Who knows?  I wouldn't put it past the ptb to let all the
puppets go down by exposing their nefarious doings and then
installing a "savior" who will clean up this mess.  I'm sure they
run that program through their supercomputer to see how
the public will react, like they did the WTC before it happened.

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If they've "allowed" it to happen, it's for the express purpose of having her be called crazy for having her views.  This type of thinking is way too prevalent, so they may want to let her be a whipping boy for us conspiracy theorists just so we'll see what happens to people who stand up.

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I noticed on MSN this morning in video highlights, the caption read, "Is Rosie losing it?".

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

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I saw that too, Treehugger.  What's funny is that when you watch it, there is NO mention of her "losing it."  It's about who should distance themselves from her politically.  Typical sensationalism with no substance to back it up.

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Adama...related to your comments on the other thread:

Rosie O'Donnell wrote:

Posted by ro on April 1st at 3:58pm in in the news

when joy and i
alluded to bill oreillys
sex scandal
on the view

we were told the following day
that we couldn’t bring it up anymore
or else bill o
would “go after” all the hosts of the view

hmmmmmmm

i saw his friday rosie spin
on you tube
where he edited my statements
to make it seem
as he wanted

like 1984
molding the facts
2 suit the needs
of big brother rupert

“Parsons was Winston’s fellow employee at the Ministry of Truth. He was a fattish but active man of paralyzing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasms—one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the thought police, the stability of the Party depended.”

question authority
america
b4 its too late
spin spin spin

“Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought?… Has it ever occurred to your, Winston, that by the year 2050, at the very latest, not a single human being will be alive who could understand such a conversation as we are having now?… The whole climate of thought will be different. In fact, there will be no thought, as we understand it now. Orthodoxy means not thinking—not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness.

we r awake
PEACE OUT

http://www.rosie.com/blog/sections/in-the-news

also maybe worth a read...

http://feeds.feedburner.com/rosie/LcwI

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Wow! Did Rosie write that? 
If so, she's a lot more right on than I'd've ever known,
since I don't watch tv.

This may be an example of what Dr. William Deagle was talking about
in his videos:  "Hey Deagle!  How come you're still alive?  I'm surprised
they're letting you tell us this stuff!"  To which Deagle replied something
to the effect of:  They know a lot of people are waking up and are
starting to question what's going on and they're afraid what might happen
if some people like Bill Clinton and others were to BOLT and spill the
beans.  So they let me "shake the tree" while still calling me a fringe
conspiracy freak, and they watch what happens.  And I might add, they
incorporate that data into their supercomputer to be able to predict how
people are going to react in situations.

This may show that Rosie just might want to be some sort of a Crusader.
For Truth.

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Good catch lilmomma. Into Orwell's vision we bound forth blindly. Ok not all of us....

Yeah I read a bit of Rosie's own feedback, seems she is much too human to be in the biz she is in- not one response did I disagree with.

Same there tho, some people have the idiotometer way in the red.
The Patridiots! Go team!                 J

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14 (edited by lyra 2007-11-19 13:33:57)

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I know this post is a little late to the game for this thread, where the last post was in April, a month before Rosie even left The View.  And now it's oh, you know, like, November. wink   But when I stumbled across this thread I just had to note this:    Rosie coincidentally popped her top with Elisabeth Hasselback in May, resulting in her "early departure" from the show, and guess what?  Suddenly the engineering expert had to be canceled - this was the dude who was scheduled to go on live television, on a show watched by millions, to explain how the planes could not have possibly taken down the WTC's singlehandedly.   So, amazing "coincidence" that she pops her top and gets quit/fired days before it happened.

So then regarding her departure itself, there were several stories floating around about what happened.  First it was that Rosie quit early because of the brawl and didn't want to come back to even finish her final three weeks.  But then Rosie later was quoted as saying that she purposely instigated the brawl, actually asking Elisabeth to pick a fight with her about something and push all her buttons so she could fight and have a reason to leave earlier than planned. (!)  When I read that I thought What??? Why would she do that?  It makes no sense, and somehow I didn't believe it.  The brawl certainly looked spontaneous and authentic to me. Also, that totally contradicts the "poor me" victim thing she was doing on her website, where she was milking her fanbase's sympathy for the way Elisabeth was treating her and the way ABC handled the whole deal.  Then it was revealed that The View actually fired Rosie as a result of her tempestuous antics, and didn't want her to even finish out those final three weeks.  So if that's true, then why would Rosie say that she had made a deal with Elisabeth to create the brawl?   Is Rosie you know....really kind of a little bit crazy in the noggin?   And then again, isn't it amazing timing that it all went down just before the engineering expert was due to come on the show?

And if the brawl truly was spontaneous, and not planned as Rosie claimed, then did "something" program her to go down in flames just before the guy was scheduled to appear on the show?   And if she really did instigate the brawl on purpose, then why would she sabotage the engineeering dude's appearance on the show?  I mean, that would have been a really big deal for him to be on.  It supposedly meant so much to her to have her point of view validated and for America to know the truth.  So, does that mean she really isn't a 9/11 truth movement person as claimed, and instead is somebody who's actually - knowingly - inserted into the works to discredit the movement?  Rosie is supposed to be a liberal after all, not somebody prone to all that Ra! Ra! Ra! pro-Bush, "believe anything they tell us and blindly follow and support them no matter what they do"" sort of person.  Right?  ??    Or is she not who we think she is?    If she isn't who people think she is, then maybe when it was within days of the engineering dude coming on the show, "stuff" was like, "Okay, the charade has gone on long enough, we never truly intended for an engineering expert to appear on the show, it's gone too far, we need to stop this before it actually happens."  Then boom...next thing you know, she's gone three weeks early and the whole thing is canceled.

Nothing is what is seems to be, that's for sure.   

All in all, I'd say that while I like that Rosie was talking about this, I think she actually did more harm than good for the movement.  The way she went down in flames like that kind of negated anything positive that may have been developing.  It gives the skeptics more fuel for their fire when a crazy acting person has become one of the major truth-movement spokespeople.

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I think she did end up ruining a golden opportunity. And taking credibility away from the movement. But yeah, who really knows what goes on behind the cameras. She could have been blackmailed from multiple sides even. It does seem they were getting too close to the actual appearance for comfort.

I can almost hear the execs now- "she WHAT?
That B*tch! Do what you must to make sure this doesn't happen!!"

The least we can hope for is the handful who may have pursued the topic afterwards, stayed awake!

The curious thing is that not many people seem to even remember Charlie Sheen questioning any of this... like it never happened. Oh well. The memory hole spares few.

  J

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