Topic: Meteorite crash causes illness in Peru

I saw this on Yahoo news and found it interesting. Any theories?

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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,4057,22439164-2,00.html

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This is an interesting theory about the 'metorite'. http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/feedba … atellite-0

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The odd thing is that they were quick to rule out a satellite.  http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ … 31F340.htm

FROM AL JAZEERA

""This is caused by the gas they have inhaled after the crash," Lopez said.

'Not fallen satellite'

Renan Ramirez, an engineer for the Peruvian Nuclear Energy Institute, said a team of scientists found no radiation at the crash site and confirmed that the crater was not created by a fallen satellite.

'Meteor' mystery


"If it had been the case, the strike would have let out radiation and contaminated the area," he said.

The illnesses that struck the local population may have been caused by sulphur, arsenic or other toxins that may have melted in the extreme heat produced by the meteorite strike, Ramirez said.

"It is a conventional meteorite that, when it struck, produced gases by fusing with elements of the terrain," he said."
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Do we know that meteorites produce gases?  What kind of gases?  They were sure it was gases and not radiation, but who suggested radiation?  Why would that even come up?  And why say they need to test the people who got sick in 6 months.  Just seems strange to me.

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Here's some more info on that "meteor." 

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/se … 07Peru.htm

Scientists dispatched to the site by the Peruvian government claim to have examined the meteorite and are now stating it is a "chondrite" meteorite. But the same scientists, according to the Peruvian government's official news service, are claiming that chondrite meteorites are not radioactive, nor do they release substances or gases which might cause people to feel sick.

Police and locals who visited the crater soon after the crash claimed a "foul odour" was coming from the crater.

The government is putting the story out that the meteorite itself is not to blame for hundreds of people falling ill. But at the same time a declaration of an official state of emergency is being considered. While a health centre in the closest town to the Puno crash site has had to establish an auxiliary 'tent hospital' to cope with all the sick people flooding ill.

Sounds like a cover-up is now in progress.

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Now they are saying the crash and resulting illness was a case of mass hysteria! Go back to sleep nothing to see here...:rolleyes:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20070927/ … E79rX737YB

'Meteorite' Crash Breeds Mass Hysteria
Andrea Thompson

SPACE.com

On what started as a normal Saturday night one week ago, residents of a small, remote Peruvian town saw a bright light streak across the sky, heard a resounding bang and suddenly found themselves at the center of a media frenzy.




Initial suspicions of an airplane crash quickly spiraled into widespread reports that a meteorite had plummeted to Earth and left a smoking, boiling crater whose supposedly noxious fumes were reported to have sickened curious locals who went to peer at the hole.




Despite doubts expressed by geologists that the crater was actually caused by a meteorite and firm explanations that a meteorite would not even emit fumes and that the "sickness" was likely a case of mass hysteria, numerous onlookers far and wide were fascinated by the idea that this event could be some real-life "Andromeda Strain" (the 1969 novel by Michael Crichton), where a mysterious rock falling to Earth from outerspace made anyone who went near it ill.




So what is it about things falling from the sky that fills us with such fear that we can make ourselves sick with panic?




Mass hysteria




Media reports of the number of locals afflicted by a "mysterious disease"--with symptoms such as nausea, headaches and sore throats--after visiting the crater figured in every news article about the Aug. 15 event, with some reporting that as many as 600 people had fallen ill.




But doctors who visited the site told the Associated Press they found no evidence that the crater had actually sickened such a large number of people.




If noxious fumes did emanate from the crater, they were most likely the result of a hydrothermal explosion that could have actually formed the crater, or were released from the ground when the meteorite struck, if in fact one did, according to many geologists.



Arsenic is found in the subsoil in that area of Peru and often contaminates the drinking water there, according to Peruvian geologists quoted on Sept. 21 by National Geographic News. Arsenic fumes released from the crater could have sickened locals who went to look, said one geologist who examined the site.


Some health officials suggest that the symptoms described by the locals, the large number of people reporting symptoms, and the apparently rapid spread have all the hallmarks of a case of mass hysteria.


"Those who say they are affected are the product of a collective psychosis," Jorge Lopez Tejada, health department chief in Puno, the nearest city, told the Los Angeles Times.


This psychosis could have begun as a result of fear of the meteorite and the mysterious "disease" on the part of the residents and spread as official and media reports seemed to confirm it and give it credence.


"The Peruvian event seems to be a rare case where we may be witnessing collective anxiety that is approaching near hysteria," said Benny Peiser, a social anthropologist at John Moores University in England. "The major[ity] of the affected Peruvian town hinted that some of the mass anxiety is due to fear of imminent impacts and psychological stress which is not surprising given the premature speculation and media hype."


Fear of outer space


Fear of a meteorite impact is nothing new--humans have long looked to the heavens with a wary eye.


"The fear of cosmic disaster, in particular cometary impacts, has existed in all cultures for millennia," Peiser told SPACE.com


But the space age revealed just how many dangers, including comets, meteors, asteroids, and cosmic rays, await us in the final frontier.


"Only since the late 20th century, humankind has become aware of the risk posed by asteroids and comets," Peiser said. "Unfortunately, this risk has been wildly exaggerated by popular culture."


Our curiosity and fear of impact events has increased their coverage by the world media, Peiser says, which in turn has increased the number of meteorite impact reports, even when the evidence doesn't point that way.


"In recent years, there have been numerous cases where alleged meteorite falls were linked to mysterious explosions on the ground--only to be proven wrong," Peiser said. "One of the main reasons for the significant increase of such claims is almost certainly due to the growing media interest in the cosmic impact risk. It is part of human nature-- and extremely tempting for the news media--to hype any event that initially looks mysterious."


While this fear is normal and understandable, it's been blown out of proportion so that the public thinks that impact risks are higher than they are, Peiser argues.


"Most people are simply not aware that we are making enormous progress in finding and identifying the population of Near Earth Objects and that the impact risk is thus diminishing year by year," Peiser said.


And when meteorites have struck, they have never carried any hint of some mysterious space disease.


"I don't know of any known record of a meteorite landing that emitted odors so noxious that people got sick from it," said geologist Larry Grossman of the University of Chicago.


So much for the Andromeda Strain.


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But there's not really anything in the article that tells us how the investigation was done.  Lots of "may bes" for any conclusive studies, eh.  One geologist looked at the crater?  Or only one had anything to say about it?  Why the bit about fear of space?  I don't agree with that.  People have always been in awe, but fear?  What b/s.

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Right on Soloflecks! Totally b/s.

The moment I read this news on bbc site 2 days ago I saw a lot of - tons of - inconsistent pack of nonsense here. So, the more they struggle to hold "the matrix" together, the more stupid they look.

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson

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Why is the simple explanation - that it penetrated a layer of earth that is rich in arsenic and released toxic gas - so hard to believe? Yes there are cover-ups, yes the media can't be trusted, but NOT EVERYTHING is a conspiracy!

Vincit omnia Veritas: Truth conquers all.

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Very easy, if there is something like a simple explanation, you would not rush to divert the attention like "mass hysteria", "space-phobia", "get out, nutin' to see here" type explanations.

And fabricated explanations vs natural explanations has different vibes. One can "feel" the difference if he/she's careful enough.

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson

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The journalists who interview and write for these mainstream media agencies don't always have a credible background in space science, geology, medicine, or pretty much any other specialised field. Don't assume that the 'mass hysteria', 'space-phobia' or 'get out, nutin to see here' type vibes and explanations relate to a cover-up. They simply end a story, a story they knew very little about to begin with, and so instead of publishing 'umm, I don't really know what I'm writing about here', the 'mass hysteria' line diverts attention away from their limited understanding and probable ignorance.

Vincit omnia Veritas: Truth conquers all.