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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SZefGr9aUk Marilyn Monroe 3-- Sex and Passion

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107 (edited by z3n3rg 2007-09-10 00:38:42)

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I've watched/listened to some more of these just to reevaluate my earlier evaluations to ensure my objective analysis.  Total, I've probably watched around 150 of these things.  I have some further thoughts which are basically finer clarifications of my earlier thoughts.  Oh, and I'm just pretending that it's actually an IDP as stated, for ease of writing.

As far as the basic concepts presented, there is absolutely nothing new here.  The only thing that could be considered "new" would be the addition of minute details on some of the concepts.  These details are rather unimportant though in the scheme of things because they can not be verified from our current human perspective.  So they may actually be obstructive if not ignored or just allowed as possibilities.

One of the main themes is that humanity is responsible for all the current systems in the world.  Which, collectively speaking, can be considered accurate.  If humans collectively did not allow our enslavement then it wouldn't exist.  However, we know that 99.99% of people on the planet will not breach any of the higher level concepts we have all been exploring for years now.  So, these videos are basically for those people that will never see them.  The old adage of "Preaching to the Choir" is apropos here.  Nothing inherently wrong with that nor am I suggesting there is.  Just playing the umpire and calling them as I see them.

The whole "God does not exist" theme in these videos does seem to be the current collective human concept of God which indeed does not exist.  But as stated above, most here have already gone past that.  So just repetition.

The ommission of something beyond the astral may simply be because of the lower level these messages are speaking to.  Or it may be because these beings don't know about anything beyond.  Or it may actually be programming to nullify any thoughts of further levels of reality.  As long as the concept of higher levels of reality are already in the mind of the receiver then really no harm done.  We don't know for sure about much of anything but we have the possibilities and that provides us with a level of protection against enslavement on the other side.  So again, it's just repetition with the possibility of programming.

The ommission of the hyper-dimensional alien control systems is a bit suspect.  Granted, as said before, if humans didn't fall for it then it wouldn't work (collectively speaking) but that does not absolve the aliens of their part in this.  I personally think it's a necessary piece of the overall puzzle before we can jump right into the "oneness and equality" concept.  I say this because it can be damn near impossible for many humans existing today to see the clues and the levels beyond where they are forced to participate in.  Not everyone has internet access to study and in fact a good portion of the population doesn't even have enough food to eat.  Putting myself in such a situation I don't think I would stand a chance of much of anything except dying of hunger.  And without the aliens' help via high level technology and other things, the current leaders of the world wouldn't have been able to maintain their positions over the many 1,000s of years.  So I feel it's a very important concept to integrate and should not be ignored while putting the full blame on humanity (which these videos do).  Those few that do actually see through all the systems not only have the aliens they can't see or get near, and not just the so-called human elite, but they have the collective human situation that we currently see in this world.  There's no way those few can overcome all those odds by simply "taking responsibility" as has been repeated incessantly in these videos.  There's no way those few can stop the suffering of all the world and teach them higher level concepts.

There is my current analysis for any keeping up with the thread.  Kid mongo please don't take it personal as you always seem to do when you perceive someone making a "negative" comment.  Unless you have something to personally gain from posting these videos here, then it really has nothing to do with you.  Overt diversionary tactics (which you employ here) are well known within such a circle of people and it's not becoming of a human reaching for a higher level of knowledge.  Objectivity and a disconnect between belief structures and emotions is the only way to move forward in the growth we have all willfully undertaken.  By making those with opposing viewpoints appear unwanted on this thread you make your own motivations for posting become suspect.  If there's one word that most here do their best to adhere to, it's Discernment.  You have offered nothing in this regard.  You have simply posted links.  A defensive position is always one of little to no movement forward.  That is not a good position to hold when the objective is spiritual growth.

If the people actually involved with this undertaking would like to come on here and address some of the things then I'm sure it would be welcomed.  It's pretty obvious you (kid mongo) are not directly involved or you wouldn't circumvent the direct questions by deflection.  I'm not speaking about my posts here, obviously, because I'm not directly asking you anything.  Anyway, I think that should about cover everything.

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Thank you for your views. Your comments are noted. It is refreshing reading a critique without ridiculous comments about the portal reading off cue cards.

I have personally actually participated with the interdimensional portal and found the results fascinating. My only motivation is to bring the comments of the interdimensional portal to the NR community. From the number of hits to this thread, and those newly arriving at the Desteni website, I can only say there is quite a bit of interest in the material. So I will continue posting the links as a public service.

Enjoy

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Thank you for taking my comments in the exact non-emotional non-attacking manner in which they were presented.  I'm glad to know that you have participated personally, so that the question of 'you being there' is resolved.  It just didn't look good when you diverted the question back to the person that asked.  It made it sound like the answer was 'no' and that you were trying to not answer it.

If this whole 2012 thing is really the beginning of a reality shift then we are literally running out of time.  To ensure we are prepared for any eventuality, brutal honesty can be the only game in town.  Anything else just won't do at this point.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH-fFZ5aL4I Shi 9 -an Alien View on Parenting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnuQbGMiBcA Shi 10 - an Alien view on Celebrity Sex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCIe-x3J0Rs Shi 11-- an Alien View of a Picture Demon World

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APcyophsIiA History of Man 83 -- Paranoia Exposed

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKC8B-IYmz8 Prophet demon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHWTRuT7F8 Time Demon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw-GThvH-Pg Child Abuse Demon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUKmKAYy7RA Trust Demon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIUBO_5Du7U Father Demon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o69ED-n67Q Fear of Loss Demon

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More "system demons" to watch out for:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atQTRb7WMD0 Edgar Cayce 3-- The New future for Earth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flbLKGk6p4o Ascension Demon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPFjbLALwTw Meditation Demon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzI5fGKznK0 Peace Demon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdAmDJy3SIU Health Demon-on Nano Technology

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0TCyAgNvDA History of Man 91-- 2012 Exposed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw-ERe_7fuE DIY Demon Removal Tool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH6fAMjwBss Obsession Demon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzQ1hsrj4EU Possession Demon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaj0iURd7CQ Swearing Demon

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Hmmm.  The 'Health Demon on Nano Technology' is pretty interesting.  I know that back in the late 70s early 80s they were getting the nanites into people via vaccinations.  At that time it wasn't as wide spread as they were testing more specific cases.  I've surmised that the early test subjects were the ones that were implanted by the Grays.  If the Grays were interested in certain humans then the government figured that would be the best place to start.  It's an interesting idea that they are implanting nanites via health food and vitamins now.  Seems to follow the line of 'ingest this for your own health' as was propagated concerning the vaccinations.

Still not sure why there is little mention of the alien involvement except the whole Anu enslaving existence via systems thing.  Listened to most of that Anu stuff and it was very general in terms of any current specific programs going on.  The whole 'blame humanity for everything' still seems a bit lopsided to me in that respect.  It just seems to me that the full scope needs to be understood in order to gain a level of protection.  The 'mind consciousness system' meme is also a bit off target in my opinion.  Certainly the lower intellectual is nothing but programs (systems) but the higher intellectual is infinite.  They don't seem to go into the higher intellectual.  The true mind has no boundaries.  If they don't have a mind then how are they able to think and communicate.  Still a bit off balance in my opinion but I have hope they (whoever you believe "they" are that is talking) will get that balance.

115 (edited by z3n3rg 2007-09-13 04:27:58)

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Just watched "History of Man 91 - 2012 Exposed".  The jist is no 4d, no god, no prophecy, nothing going to happen in 2012.  Specifically mentioned was "4th density".  Nothing "higher" than where these dimensionals are, etc.  Then they confuse the point by saying that humans have to take responsibility for self and stand up and that nothing is coming to "save" them.  Which is true but is mutally exclusive of there being higher levels of existence.  Specifically, the idea of a 4th density is being cojoined with the idea that there is still seeking for a savior.  This is not what was expressed via the C's, Ra, and others that have mentioned 4th - 7th density.

In one of the earlier videos talking about Anu, Anu went to Records of Alcyone to see if he could find his origin.  He found that the original entity of his race asked the same question and was unable to find an answer.  So, the logic leap was made that since he couldn't find the origin then he must be the origin.  I immediately saw the logical fallacy in this.  If you are the origin then you would remember creating everything.  If you don't remember creating everything or remember anything prior then you are created.  This 'I must be the origin' seems to be the same logic used when saying there is nothing higher.  If you can't see anything higher then you must be at the highest level, in other words.  How many humans right now have the same perspective about the 3d physical realm.

It's certainly not a bad thing to push people to take responsibility but there is some twisting of logic going on here which could be dangerous.

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What if there is no beginning...

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I will inquire about the Cassiopeians. Should be interesting.

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Re: the Cassiopeians. "They were of information that became knowledge as the manifestation of Entities that were 'deleted' along with the White Light.

Therefore - they don't exist at all - but in and as the minds of those who have define themselves according to such entities of knowledge and information."

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ9De0Hi090 DIY Embarrasment and Forgiveness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfdtZqXp5iw DIY Fear of Change and Forgiveness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4xiCqErUhI Crocodile tears Demon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSTiqcE1tec Energy Demon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5Zj4g685nE Embarrasment Demon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfWGW8q2j-8 DIY Sacred Geometry and Forgiveness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM7ug_KS-2U DIY Knowledge and Forgiveness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgM--uxaS2k DIY BeliefSystem and Forgiveness

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Re: The Dead Series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6A6pSQl2Zg History of Man 93 -Knowledge is USELESS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IuNIGnWZ10 History of Man 94 - The Second Death

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlSXAlwHi4k History of Man 95 - What happens after Death

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3umCXdkLxQ Whales form Earth -- Oceans DEPLETED

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KuAKzAcQtw DIY Crocodile Tears and Forgiveness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY0QCurCBgw DIY Energy and Forgiveness

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