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I forgot to add, I didn't intend to discourage others about garlic, but personally I will continue to avoid it like I do MSG, the experiment was a + result for me, as in, no more for me.

And as you said lyra, it is a conspiracy. I am now to the point where I wonder if aspartame and sucralose aren't being universally blended in with either HFCS, or even cane sugar, because the minute these chemicals become cheaper than cane sugar will be like a small food apocalypse. It may not even have to do with price (or price-fixing) at all, but merely to achieve their ends rendering us all toxified beyond recovery.
                                                            J

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ape-x wrote:

Part of my problem is, I don't have any health food stores close by. And I wouldn't know what to do with most health food to make it edible. I'm inclined to think I would rather die young than eat most of it.

Depends on how you define health food.  I think eating simply is the way to go.  Lots of fresh organic veggies from small farms - I make these mega salads with homemade (organic smile ) dressing.   Clean free range meat that's hormone/antibiotic free.  Organic fruits.  Brown rice.  Things like that.  Healthy doesn't have to equate to being yucky tasting and inedible.  I wasn't talking about like, soy or anything. haha  I wouldn't eat that stuff, and yet a lot of so-called healthy types snarf up soy milk and tofu and all this weirdo stuff that may actually be bad for you, little do they know. 

Keep it simple, is the key, and sometimes simple is really tasty.....

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Ohhhhhhhhh sad
Fried garlic it is sooooo tasteful as a spice...
Well, fried probably is less worst.

Count Dracula also recommends no garlic tongue

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lyra wrote:

Depends on how you define health food.  I think eating simply is the way to go.  Lots of fresh organic veggies from small farms - I make these mega salads with homemade (organic smile ) dressing.   Clean free range meat that's hormone/antibiotic free.  Organic fruits.  Brown rice.  Things like that.  Healthy doesn't have to equate to being yucky tasting and inedible.  I wasn't talking about like, soy or anything. haha  I wouldn't eat that stuff, and yet a lot of so-called healthy types snarf up soy milk and tofu and all this weirdo stuff that may actually be bad for you, little do they know. 

Keep it simple, is the key, and sometimes simple is really tasty.....

Good advice Lyra. I drink soy because pastuerised milk sucks even more. What do you consume for calcium? Nuts and veggies I suppose.

I like garlic. I might experiment later if it's good for me or not. But they're minor details. Get your basic food regime right - fruits and veggies and then be picky about whether garlic is good for you or not.

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I recently learned that garlic lowers one's blood pressure and so obviously has incredible power in replacing all those high blood pressure medications that hook you into a life long dependence - if you stop taking them you go even higher than you were before. I wouldn't therefore be surprised to see a lot of negative stuff about garlic as with all natural remedies providing independence from the pharma co's. I know about the lowering blood pressure effect because I actually suffer from low blood pressure -as in feeling faint and week when standing for long periods or standing up too fast- and have found that if I have too much garlic in a meal, say the combined total of a couple of cloves (cooked not raw), I feel incredibly tired and disorientated as if having narcolepsy or really low blood sugar levels. That would explain why pilots don't take it before flying - aside from lowering reaction time, they need their blood pressure to remain fairly constant if not rather high in order to pull those high g moves without blacking out.

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Hildegarde wrote:

Good advice Lyra. I drink soy because pastuerised milk sucks even more. What do you consume for calcium? Nuts and veggies I suppose.

I do the dairy thing still, still consume cheese, butter, sour cream, half and half and stuff.  Not like, in mass amounts, but I do eat it here and there.  I don't drink milk though, think that's gross.  Not that dairy is actually a good source of calcium anyway, so I've read.  But I'm sure there's some in there.  wink  And yeah, in the veggies too, that's another source.  Oh......and I take a calcium supplement.  Almost forgot.  Country Life's Calcium, Magnesium and Vitamin D capsules.  On the label it says it's calcium in the form of calcium hydroxypatite, citrate, alpha-ketoglutarate, aspartate and lysinate.   ?!  Whatever all that means.  haha  Who knows, it could be bad for me but oh well.....


FreeSpirit wrote:

I recently learned that garlic lowers one's blood pressure and so obviously has incredible power in replacing all those high blood pressure medications that hook you into a life long dependence - if you stop taking them you go even higher than you were before. I wouldn't therefore be surprised to see a lot of negative stuff about garlic as with all natural remedies providing independence from the pharma co's. I know about the lowering blood pressure effect because I actually suffer from low blood pressure -as in feeling faint and week when standing for long periods or standing up too fast- and have found that if I have too much garlic in a meal, say the combined total of a couple of cloves (cooked not raw), I feel incredibly tired and disorientated as if having narcolepsy or really low blood sugar levels. That would explain why pilots don't take it before flying - aside from lowering reaction time, they need their blood pressure to remain fairly constant if not rather high in order to pull those high g moves without blacking out.

This is a really good point about garlic's affects on blood pressure and how that will make people feel sick, as well as possible negative press against garlic and nutritional supplements in general for taking away the power from big pharma.......

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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http://www.rense.com/general76/Dpi.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1939485.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garlic
Garlic is used for thousandths years!
A substance being bad for cat&dogs do not mean it is the same for humans.

Hummm...
As the difference between poison and remedy is the dosage, I bet small use
as spice is not bad.

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I can be a test case!  I eat it as a food and take as a supplement.  I take a lot per day....2000mg I think.  Maybe it was something else I did, but my health has been better after upping how much garlic I take.

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Soloflecks wrote:

I can be a test case!  I eat it as a food and take as a supplement.  I take a lot per day....2000mg I think.  Maybe it was something else I did, but my health has been better after upping how much garlic I take.

Hmm, I have also been eating a lot of garlic as of late in cooked meals, though haven't been taking it as a supplement. 

Soloflecks, you mention your health has been better, how about your meditative abilities, do you feel more/less/the same connected, when you're on garlic?  I think that was the point of BD's original post.

I think it may be a ripe time for me to test... ie. stop eating it for a while, and see how it affects mental/spiritual states.  If I notice anything I'll do a follow up post.

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Why garlic is good for the heart...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7045557.stm

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The eating of garlic aside, I recently discovered another use for the stuff. I've got several moles on my body which I decided it was about time I got rid of, so I looked into laser treatment or cosmetic surgery to remove them. The cost would have been obscene (well over £1000 total), so I looked around for alternative methods. In so doing I found several forums on the net where the use of garlic is recommended for mole removal and I thought 'yeah right!'. But after researching some more and reading lots of convincing stories about how effective it is, I decided to give it a crack.

Well, I ate my words because it works! If done properly there is only slight scarring, which is often the same result  following the more expensive methods. For a total cost of less than a few £'s I have so far saved myself around a grand's worth of expensive treatment at one of the money grabbing High Street skin clinics that have recently sprung up in abundance accross the UK.

There is the unfortunate side effect of smelling dodgy for a few days while you apply the treatment, so don't bother trying to pull during this time wink

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Pictus wrote:

Why garlic is good for the heart...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7045557.stm

I am always a bit suspect of zionist organastions like the BBC when they have news stories like this.
I firmly believe in Garlic as medicine but i have doubts about the long term effects of daily consumption , if nothing else it may well wipe out the good bacteria in our bodies along with the bad just like antibiotics aside from the issues of getting past the blood brain barrier stuff. Would it suit TPTB to have those of us who look to alternative remedies on low immunity due to having little internal bacterial flora and have a more artificial protection from a herb who's side effects may cause brain fog too? They seem to like things that pass the blood brain barrier which is why fluorine is used in so many drugs as things bond to it and it drives stuff deeper into brain tissue or helps drugs generally get into body tissues more effectively.
I honestly can't say with any authority but its food for thought.
I still think cayenne pepper and hawthorne are the number 1 heart and circulation remedies and may be a lot safer to take daily.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.