Bipolar Disorder (Page 2 of 2)

I love moon cycle associated synchronicities! (synchronicity isn't in the spellchecker? Yikes! is that mozilla's doing?)  I didn't know this thread was here.

I have been labeled with this affliction.  I don't believe I ever threatened anyone bodily harm but there were a few cases where I was pretty far gone.  Luckily I was able to get back, and in time figure out how not to go to those placed again.  Damn are they hard to get back from!  I think among a dozen or more other factors, I was tuned in in an off way to serious time period factors like the 2000 election debacle, good ol' 9 / 1 1 , and the unparalleled psychological torture environment of the buildup to the Iraq war in the U.S.

I'm fine enough now and I don't take any meds with any regularity.  The only ones I take are only to help me sleep, and I was lucky enough to have them prescribed by a shrink who was cool enough to say just take them as needed.  I rarely do.  They had me on regular stuff for a while and did blood tests to make sure I was taking it, I'm pretty sure.  The whole thing was obscenely political and I thankfully don't want to go into it here.

globug, with regards to your niece, I would lay off and give her some space if that's an option.  If you think she might fall under the old classic cliché of "a danger to herself or others" then get someone to talk to her whom you think is sympathetic, and one of you try and get an idea of the terms on which she can be reasoned with.  I always wish more people had tried harder to talk me down, but to be fair it is an awful lot to expect from any individual.

I hope she's able to recover and adjust as well as necessary to this f@#ked-up society and that a minimal amount of psychiatric or other type of authority is necessary to be involved.  Remember that any loved-one who is able to talk to her on reasonable terms is keeping an "agent" type from possibly doing the same but not as sympathetically if things were to get out of hand.  There is little or no doubt in my mind that this ""'disorder'"" is frequently used to single out and ostracize troublemakers, those who make the good kind of trouble of course

No, my niece does not live with me or my children. But my mother (her grandmother) had asked me and my children if we would live with her (she is 70 and I think she didn't want to live alone). My niece does live right down the street though, I can see her home from my home. I called the cops because it was the second time she threatened me, I felt I had to because even though she told my mother that she would never hurt me, I just can not take that chance when she's in the state of mind she's in when she attacks me. This has my mother so upset, one because she doesn't like family conflict, and two because now my niece's children can not come to the house to see her. Well I told her that she can go to visit them any time she wants, I'm not stopping her! My mother is a wonderful woman, would give the shirt off her back (which I think is half the reason for my niece), but I also realize that it is HER choice if she want's to do things continually for my niece. But I see it taking a very big toll on my mother's health. She is on a heart medication. So now, just an hour ago, my older sister (my nieces mother) has asked me to see if I could lift the restraining order enough so that my niece's kids could come here to visit. She feels this is putting a major strain on my mother, but she also realiizes that my niece has severe mental issues, but she also doesn't want to get a phone call in the middle of the night that her mother has died of heart failure. When she first mentioned this to me my body instantly when into upset mode! She said it was my decision, but I'm not sure if I can do that. I do think it's time for me to walk away! for good!

Well, cool.    Lately in reading obnoxious Dear Abby letters I've come to realize I have a more male mindset and way of dealing with things.  I was just reading some article on the 'net regarding the way females deal with "frenemies" - friend enemies - and in reading it I was just shaking my head.  It's not anything I would ever tolerate.  Towards the end of the article it talks about males having a low threshold of tolerance for the complications that women go through with their friendships.  (and you could probably insert family relationships in there as well, as I've read or witnessed many a female who tolerated obnoxious crap from family members or spouses for years.)  I just have no tolerance for things, when people have shown what they're about, that's it, they're out of there, and I'm done.  Buh bye.  Moving on with my life, I have no patience.  I have things to do, and I'm not going to allow people to get in the way of that, being some annoying energy draining distraction.  So yeah, my advise is always coming from that mindset, probably unfortunately for the people who receive it and don't have that mindset and can't relate.  haha

BI-POLAR dis-order....Carl Jung calassified humanity as bi-polar.
However, MANIC DEPRESSION is NOT bi-polar as Carl Jung defined it.
Bi-POLAR nowadays, is ' a POLITICALLY correct terminalogy.

We asked my DAD what is was like to get 'high' (manic).  His reply was that
it's like having a few beers (you get that high) and then eventually we would want to go to sleep, but he said that in his case, he keeps on getting higher, and higher, and higher and never wanted to go to bed when it was time...Dad did not drink alcohol nor took drugs.

Because those that are 'manic' (high) don't want to go bed and rest, they can die because the PHYSICAL  BODY gets exhausted.  No rest. No sleep.  They just want to keep on going.

Myself, I believe it's the mis-firing of one's kundalini (sexual energy).  A few years ago, I came across of biography who suffered from this (manic depression) and  explained of the mis-firing of the kundalini.  He was from India.  His wife took care of him for many years, until he was able to resolve his 'dark side' and forgive.  In other words, in previous lives we were murderers, killers, etc.  This is recorded in the bilogoical cell tissu of our physical body.  When the Kundalini is ignited, the rememberance of past behaviours is consciously awakened within us.  Obviously this seldom happens with most of us.  The author did not take medications, but he was 'suffering' from this for many, many years.  He would be 'depressed' for weeks on end, and then high.  His wife is the one who truly allowed him to recover.  He also had a friend who was his spiritual advisor.  Note:  INDIA is a very spiritual nation.  Western civilization would have a great difficulty in accepting this.

I trylu apologized for not knowing the author (GOPI?) but when I go into the big city of Victoria I'll try to find the book. (and I haven't been there in 2 months, so be patient.

It's also important to note, that one cannot get low (normal) in this condition.  If you are capable of becoming normal without medication, I suspect you are not manic-depression.  Maybe Bi-Polar, but not Manic!

BeWell in Movement,
Monique

I like ermolai's post at the beginning of this thread. I work as a hsopital pharmacist. The last place I worked at had a psych unit. It seemed that every single patient had the diagnosis of bipolar disorder. We were pumping out tons of tegretol and depakote to these people. Now I recall back in the 70's there was no such thing as "bipolar disorder". It was known as manic-depression and it constituted about 10% of the mental health patient population. It seems that big pharma dictates which "new disease state" will be prevalent.

And from ermolai's post     :http://www.theicarusproject.net
I sent this www address to a mental health association that work directly with clients in Victoria, BC. I hope this may be of benefit for them!!!!!