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Call it Chi, call it Qi, call it Orgone, whatever you call it, it's the single most important factor to bodily health.

The overall amount held in your energy field and how it flows, how it is exchanged and utilised, within your energy field and in your body fields relation to your environment.

The best example i've found is methamphetamine:

http://www.co.multnomah.or.us/sheriff/faces_of_meth.htm

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After five years of taking meth, Theresa Baxter says she has experienced everything but death. She says being on meth is the closest thing to being a zombie, a member of the living dead.

What this is, is the massive expendature of lifeforce, we know that a sexual orgasm feeds the lizzies, methamphetamine is a lizzy takeout, milking people for all their worth.

A while back i concluded subjectivity, emotion was the essence of lifeforce, expend emotion expend lifeforce, expend emotional during sex or taking drugs, this can have a negative effect on health.

Humans obvious are emotional creatures, we're all dying as we speak anyway and we are all going to die physically at some point, sex i believe can be important for ones body field, the flow of energy, atleast in those that aren't equipped to reap the benefits of abstination, which many aren't, i'm certainly not, although i like having control over my emotion.

I want to parrallel my theories with my own experiences, as this is where i've drawn my conclusion, reflection on my own life and understanding of my reality.

I've mentioned many times i was drugged with Methylphenidate, which is more potent in some aspects of function than Methamphetamine, but being generally weaker in half-life and in life force energy drain, still having the potensial to induce Methamphetamine like life force drain, requiring much greater abuse however, they are similar, methamphetamine is even used to treat ADHD!

Oh this system is sooo f*cked,but anyway...

Notice teresas comment, like being a zombie, the closest thing to being a member of the living dead, i would concur, meth drains and blocks and f*cks up, life force energy systems to an extreme degree.

This is what i've suffered with my methyphenidate addiction, lukcily i was born with alot of mental function and lifeforce, so while the drug has ruined most of my health and mental function, left with enough to be doing what i am doing now, finding a reason, finding answers, finding a "cure" which is just a word i use for a subjective resolution to whatever the hell karma i'm reaping.

I'm sure most have heard Ritalin(Methyphenidate) reffered to as the zombie effect, something i go through at times, even though i've been off the drug for almost 2 years, blocking draining of lifefroce, which manifests in the observable physical, as various physical obsrvable effects, such as DNA abberations, decreased blood flow to the brain, literally, thousands of observable bioligcal direct or indirect effects (indirect effects purely within a single lifetimes subjective reference, would likely be inumerbale, it will effect every bodily system directly or indirectly as it's such a potent life force f*cker upper).

So anyway, effects ineumerbale, physically and phycholigcally, but generally negative, too many to combat with any conventional means i have learned.

I've tried hormonal/endocrinological  manipulation and phychopharmacological manipulation, but have not had any real increase in mental or physical functioning, i'm too burnt out.

I'd say i'm prematuraly aged and severely damaged in various energy/physical systems

Physical is energy, i'm realsing, everything is so interrelatedi'm realsing, but not processing the infromation due to lack of mental charge, i'm not sure if i'm relearning what i knewwhen i was younger or what every sees as it's all subjective but things are becoming clearer as being energy, or maybe i'm becomingmore detatched i'm not sure, but physical systems i interpret as energy systems interelated with other enrgy systems, tied in with consciousness, this is just becomingmore clear i think.

Everything is too interconnected, you fix one problem and it causes another and another and basically end up having to reverse everything and there's no way of tackling all the problems, all the health concerns people have.

So what it comes down to is relying on your bodies own intelligent system of homeostasis and you bodies energy field intelligence, to rearrange things, no other option, trying to force your body to do anything, result in resistance from it, but can work okay for temporary manipulation of body energy in a subjective positve way.(what orthodox medicine is all about)

If you want to tackle your health concerns you need to increase lifeforce and get your body to utlisie it to correct energy imbalences, which it would hopefully intelligently be able to fix.

So, how does one increase lifeforce significantly in ones body and free up the general flow, so the energy fields own intelligent system can take care of the complex dynamics?

Any ideas, unique substances, foods, plants, technologies, technologies, minerals, energies?

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Qi Gong - meaning energy work in Chinese is all about energy manipulation especially in the body. Learning Strategies Corporation has a good program for it. Chunyi Lin is the guy that develops their program. He has learnt from many Qi Gong masters and is very deep in it. I haven't really got into the program yet but it is something I want to work on eventually.

"The universe is on fire with wonder, beauty, and ecstasy." - From the Undines to Humanity
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You've just touched on the latest area of research that Barbara Bartholic (alien abduction researcher) is working on.  Her theory is that there are a number of alien "programs" going on, and the "meth project" is one of the most insidious.  According to her, you're exactly right and have reached the same conclusion she has.  Meth users feed the Lizzies an amazing amount of energy and burn themselves out in the process. 

Even being the pleasure-seeker that I am, you couldn't pay me to touch meth with a 10 foot pole because I've seen what it does.  I have an entire branch of family that's been wiped out, some physically, some mentally and spiritually by meth.  I grew up visiting cousins, aunts and uncles that I really liked, and now they're nothing but shells of themselves.  Toothless, maniacal, paranoid, skeletal shells.

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Finding a good Orgone therapist may help. You have to do some searching though. There are practically no Orgone therapists in the midwest. The one nearest me is in PA, but there are others on the east and west coast. The proper term is "orgone therapy" and not "Reichian therapy".  I talked to the guy in PA that has a practice where he does Orgone therapy for people, and we talked about the shams and gimmicky stuff out there that is more or less full of placebo even if they are helping people. Its whatever you gravitate towards I guess, but I tried Reiki therapy once and I jumped off the table because it felt like there was somthing wanting to rip out of my stomach. Not my bag, there is another advanced psychic in AZ and the same thing happened to him when he tried Reiki. Its not for all, but Orgone may be your best bet if you can find somone near your area.


http://www.orgone.org/therpy00.htm

THis website has the numbers of Orgone therapists from around the world. Good luck!

Migo

5 Reply by Worldbridger (edited by Worldbridger 2007-08-15 06:30:36)

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You could also try Traditional Chinese Medicine... i'm no practitioner but sounds like chi deficiency to me... although there is always more going on in the body than we can imagine

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Lono wrote:

You've just touched on the latest area of research that Barbara Bartholic (alien abduction researcher) is working on.  Her theory is that there are a number of alien "programs" going on, and the "meth project" is one of the most insidious.  According to her, you're exactly right and have reached the same conclusion she has.  Meth users feed the Lizzies an amazing amount of energy and burn themselves out in the process. 

Even being the pleasure-seeker that I am, you couldn't pay me to touch meth with a 10 foot pole because I've seen what it does.  I have an entire branch of family that's been wiped out, some physically, some mentally and spiritually by meth.  I grew up visiting cousins, aunts and uncles that I really liked, and now they're nothing but shells of themselves.  Toothless, maniacal, paranoid, skeletal shells.

I get that, people sya i am shadow and shell of my self. It is like there's a emotional and mental void.

ofcourse the lizzies have something to do with it, drugs invented about 100 years ago, a massive amount of the population take them now reguarily, most have used at some time in their life.

Ritalin and like drugs "treating" millions, how could they get away with that, right under our noses, if they are that cockey i think it's safeto say they aren't expecting us to wake up anytime soon, or even be worried aboutit.

I personally don't believe in a happy ending to all this...(am i wrong?)

It's all to do with the lifeforce, emotional, subjective energy they feed off of, meth use induces porbably one of the most severe lifeforce drains possible on earth, infact i'd say it definietely does.

Meth rushes are the essance of the human condition, addicted to subjective emotion, we were design to be limited, we were design for physical/emotional/mental pleasure, so that we would remain addicted to gratification, despite what effects it would have on others or ourselves.

I'd have alot to say about what potent stimulants like Meth to do a persons, mind, body, personaility, health and energy, it's a subjectively f*ed up thing and it's all about milking a person through the hook of addiction for all their energy, even after the addiction passes if it passes, the person would be left crippled and would be liable to become a hatful and negative person.

Anything that's addictive, anything that feels good, i think anything you feel at all, is a lifeforce energy expendature.

I'm not sure if this can be recharged, or if a person has a limited and dimishing amount over a lifetime, or if flow blocks off and energy systems get damaged within the body due to cut off flow and it's a deteriorating patern as we age.

Anyway, peace.

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All good suggestions, but i'm looking for something drastic, if i don't find a drastic solution i'll work on whatever solutions to lifeforce drain and bodily energy imbalences i can.

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Miles, I know this suggestion will be unpopular, and perhaps even unwelcome to you.  Normally I don't advocate turning to pharmaceuticals, especially the ever-popular anti-depressants.  However... HOWEVER... The main thing that meth (as well as related amphetamines) changes in the brain is the area that produces serotonin, dopamine, etc.  The hippo campus, I believe it is, actually shrinks over time with usage.  This results in the brain being completely  unable to re-balance itself.  Short term usage of antidepressants has been shown to increase these shrunken areas of the brain, enabling it to eventually re-establish balance without the use of drugs.  You might do some internet research on this to see how you feel about it.

I have a very good friend who used meth for 3 years straight and managed to go cold turkey one day.  Clean as he was, he battled intense depression for years afterward.  He finally broke down and went on short-term therapy with Lexapro  or something similar.   After 6 months to a year of that he gradually decreased his dosage and stopped, and now needs no antidepressants.

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Lono wrote:

Miles, I know this suggestion will be unpopular, and perhaps even unwelcome to you.  Normally I don't advocate turning to pharmaceuticals, especially the ever-popular anti-depressants.  However... HOWEVER... The main thing that meth (as well as related amphetamines) changes in the brain is the area that produces serotonin, dopamine, etc.  The hippo campus, I believe it is, actually shrinks over time with usage.  This results in the brain being completely  unable to re-balance itself.  Short term usage of antidepressants has been shown to increase these shrunken areas of the brain, enabling it to eventually re-establish balance without the use of drugs.  You might do some internet research on this to see how you feel about it.

I have a very good friend who used meth for 3 years straight and managed to go cold turkey one day.  Clean as he was, he battled intense depression for years afterward.  He finally broke down and went on short-term therapy with Lexapro  or something similar.   After 6 months to a year of that he gradually decreased his dosage and stopped, and now needs no antidepressants.

Interesting...

One thing you might not know about Methyphenidate, Methamphetamine and probably cocaine and amphetamine is that they decrease cerebral bloodflow, Methyphenidate studies have shown up to 30% and that wasn't even what they were looking for.

Remarkably, this never gets mentioned ever and in all the PET scans conducted to determine Ritalins effects on the brain, only 1 set of researchers, from Brookhaven National Laboratory have even mentioned this...

Methamphetamine, methylphenidate, amphetamine and cocaine all cause brain atrophy and type-2(negative or opposite of) schitzofrenia, negative symptons are lack of affect and avolition, zombieness or deadness.

Ritalin and amphetamines are a whole norther animal to cocaine though, Cocaine is very weak by comparison.

The decreased bloodflow results in brain atrophy, asone of it'smost severe side effects, for growing children, it also diminishes brain and physical growth.

To your suggestion, i had consideredn a mild tricyclic anti-depressant, which would stimulate my dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin systems, the 3 main neurotramitters systems that stimulants mess up.

I've considered it, in combination with an antioxidant or other potensial regime of potensially curing substances.

I've also considered Nootropics, mental regeneration drugs, which can increase bloodlfow to the brain and other things.

Also i'd like to thank Tom for recommending Spirulina, it's pervoked and interest in other plant based substances with power to heal.

I've also came across something called silica hydride:

http://www.silicahydride.com/

Anyone know anything about this stuff, i've been on bodybuilding forums and it get great reviews as an energy booster, something i'm really missing.

Which adds credit to the state that it is "The Worlds Most Powerful Anti-oxidant"

Anyone know anything about this stuff at all?

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I really didn't want to go back on any drugs, but when i realised the whole term drug is subjective and basically anything can be a drug and how what constitutes body damage is even subjective, it mattered less, whats important however is my spiritual development, i don'twant to get side tracked into gratifying myself as soon as i get more personal power, freedom,emotion and energy.

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hey Miles, hope this gets to you well.  I dont know if you feel overly anxious a lot of the time, but somthing helped me to completely overcome a hard time in my life.


I used to suffer from panic attacks, depression, and general anxiety. The thing that helped me is the Linden Method. Its a very practical thing and non medicinal. I really thought my panic and anxiety would never end and that I would need meds my whole life, but then when I found the Linden Method and actually did it my life turned around quickly.

This method is a step above paying to see a cognitive behavioral therapist because it doesnt give you "time off" of doing what it is you need to do which is to literally reprogram your amygdala.  This really is the conclusive, scientifically proven method to cure anxiety on all levels.  The spectrum of this condition is very wide which is why there are so many different " kinds" of anxiety, but we all know it must be comming from the same place. The amygdala just needs to be retrained to be completely non anxious through following a few rules and adamently applying them IMMEDIATELY and do not look back. I stopped having panic attacks in just 4 days by practicing one of the methods I learned on the CDs. Its very simple, you just need to change what you think anxiety is and where it comes from. it takes courage to see it for what it is, but if anxiety and panic are your issues then you already have more than enough of that.  Saved my life really haha. I shamelessly promote this method where I feel it should be.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kUCPVx3hieg

Ive come off of drugs before, never meth though. Ive been addicted to a few things and had hella times just getting off, but it DOES happen. 

Another really neat thing I found is called emotional freedom technique.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aQp0kA5a5OI

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Miles wrote:

... whats important however is my spiritual development, i don't want to get side tracked into gratifying myself as soon as i get more personal power, freedom,emotion and energy.

As well this should be your main goal.  However, the spiritual path is harder to focus on when you have to fight depression every step of the way.  Joy and a light step will carry you much farther, and yet they can be completely out of reach for people who find it hard just to get out of bed each morning. 

Whether you choose the completely natural path (spirulina, 5-HTP, Sam-E, etc) or pharmaceuticals, don't resent the time off for building a good foundation one bit.  Get yourself straight, then aim for progress and growth.  That strong foundation is essential.

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Thankyou Nyarlathotep and all posters for suggestions and contributions to the thread.

I am in quite a difficult situation being 17 and unable to work with no qualifications, even though i was once "gifted" and the second most intelligent male for my age in our county population of 500,000, predicted to get the highest qualification grades possible in the UK 10, A* GCSE's. As i said i was addcited to the stimulants i was given from 11-16.

Now i am on diability benefit, even though i'm still fairly intelligent in some aspects of function, i'm severely dumb in others and the depression and emotiness is not easy to conquer and it's not easy to get my feet on the ground from here...

So doing things like finding alternative medicine practisioners, psychtherpists and hyponotherapists,is no easy.

I can however buy things with the little money i have, things that hopefully will make a difference.

I probably could get anti-dperessants from the National Health Service, but i am currently sueing them and i've told what i believe the drugs have done to me, it might seem hypocritical to then turn around and ask for anti-depressants, as i'm sueing them for giving me them and it alsohappened  might make whats to me look like common depression, not complete burnout of happiness and pleasure opathways and massive loss of psychological function due to the drugs they gave me which i became addcited to.

I don't think i have a choice but to get myself straight otherwise i'd probably off myself, as long as i have a goal to rebuild myself and mylife i have hope and so i will keep striving, it seems i've leartn and grown on the way in any case, just my path maybe.

Welli've decided to add spirulina to my diet as it comes so highly recommended, does anyone have any information on how much i should take, or any experiences with it.

I'm gonna guess and say it's revitalising and likely helps with life force energy systems.

Thanks,

Miles.

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Miles, I really feel for your situation and I read that article you posted about meth, my God.  You can see it in their faces, the loss of spirit energy in their eyes.   I cannot know if this will appeal to you or not, but meditation can be far more powerful than people give it credit for.   It can be deeply restorative and healing in many ways.   Now given your needs probably going to the local meditation class won't do the job, but if you have access to any Tibetan Buddhist groups you might find some techniques of great value which can restore the particular energies you have lost.   If not that, then yoga focused disciplines also.   What I picture is a discipline that specifically works with channelling back lost energies and balancing energies in the body.   I'm all for going with traditional routes simultaneously as well - is there a doctor you can trust to talk to about these issues?

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Vajra wrote:

Miles, I really feel for your situation and I read that article you posted about meth, my God.  You can see it in their faces, the loss of spirit energy in their eyes.   I cannot know if this will appeal to you or not, but meditation can be far more powerful than people give it credit for.   It can be deeply restorative and healing in many ways.   Now given your needs probably going to the local meditation class won't do the job, but if you have access to any Tibetan Buddhist groups you might find some techniques of great value which can restore the particular energies you have lost.   If not that, then yoga focused disciplines also.   What I picture is a discipline that specifically works with channelling back lost energies and balancing energies in the body.   I'm all for going with traditional routes simultaneously as well - is there a doctor you can trust to talk to about these issues?

Another factor in this is that while i've always been rather compassionate and noble subjectively, i've been told i'm too nice by other people and such and couldn't understand why other people would want to hurt another when i was younger, it used to really disturb me.

I know find myself not so opposed to being selfish, my reasoning in this is, it's all subjective and objectively it doesn't matter what i do, i'm just doing my thing being part of the one.

So from this logic, i could really go for the STS thing, now my father apprently was alot like me when i was younger, quite humble and meek, until he left school at 15-16 then he changed, basically became an STS individual, he's very broad shouldered like me (athletic body) my uncle much the same but worse and addictive personailties run on our fmaily, my sister who is a year older than me had an addiction to meth for a short time, not a serious day after day one however, my father has abused just abouty eveyr drug there is including meth now has less severely than me symptoms of depression, probably due to drug use and his lifestyle, took 40 years before he got bruned out however and he's still not as worse off than me.

Anyway the point is, don't we genetically choose are parents for soul compatability? So was i supposed to be egotsicial and self serving and the drugs have made me less egotisical than i was going to? Or did the drugs confuse me into believing it might be my path to be STS by exposing me to addiction?

I don't know who i am, i could see the reason to rid myself of hate as much as rid myself of love, both have merit as a choice in my eyes, one seems fun and one seems noble, because one is endulging in subjectivivty, the other is objectivity,obviously i don't want to stay in this dimension, i want to go to the 4th or above, but not the one immdietly above the 4th lol.

So if i set that a goal, it's either going to be STS or STO, even if i don't make it this time around, i need to choose a path somehwere, but maybe i've already chosen it and i'm just lost.

So for now i'm just trying to get my self together physcially and mentally, so that i can better make the the spiritual choice, of which there is one that's right for me and one that's wrong i really don't know which i am right now, but for now i've decided to stay balenced and not entertain thoughts of either in a major way and if possible not entertain any thoughts of anything other than ridding myself of my fatigue and depression so i can make better spiritual descisions.

So the point was, that i don't know if going and hanging around with a bunch of monks is right for me, it would probably make me feel peaceful and loving, but is that really what i want, maybe it's my ego keeping me in the place i am? I hypothesised this had all happened as a "dark night of the soul" type scenario to battle my demons and disolve my ego so that i can progress on my spiritual journey when 2012 came, i came to that conclusion whe i first woke up in january febuary and was told i was an indigo children or whatever, but it made sense stright away this ego thing, even though i didn't really understand it like i do now.

However, i could also look at this as ego hardening or reforming, where it gets broken and b attered so much, that if it withstand you get off stronger for it.

So it cna be played both ways, it depends if i listen to my ego voice or my higher self, right now there's not all that emotion involved, so i am thinking mostly just logically and objectively.

For example, when i do something bad i feel guilty(but i don't have much emotion!), but my ego says then remove the guilt and you wont feel guilty whereas my higher self says then dont do it.

Not much emotion to guide the descision, so i just leave it at that, i've got the logical descision between good and evil, it's jnot an emotional descision because most of my emotion is gone,but obviously emotion is still a big part of my psychology it's just dampened and abit damaged, that's why i want to lift the depression first, so then i know who i really am and my emotions will likely be the decider, unless i find one to be logically better, but i guess it's like the c's said, some like darkness somelike light, i like both and neither, i don't know what i like the most, because of the nature of the damage the drugs have inflicted on me.

What to do?

Doctors are pretty useless, they won't accept Ritalin as the cause of my problems, even though i'm showing them the studies, telling thme i was addicted, this is psychaitrists i'm tlaking about however, other doctors can't really help they cna only referme to psychiatrists, they're all quite blatently within the matrix, i've noticed with people like that certain things just dont go into their minds, like they don't want to know certaint things, they've got tomaintain their illusion type of thing and they will only obsorb information at a certain level, nothing that's too much truth for them kind of thing...

Thanks,

Miles.