16 (edited by aaronfirebrand 2004-09-14 21:00:12)

Re: 9 / 11 - ARE WE TOLD THE TRUTH?

This is the last article I've seen from Wendy. She mentions 911 as the possible "signal event" opening the 4th seal of Revelation, when all hell breaks loose. If you want more chills.
http://www.paranoiamagazine.com/greenhorse.html

Remember, Wendy might also be owned, if we take her words literally.

17 (edited by JOSEPH 2004-09-15 15:32:40)

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Here is the other side of the argument that says a Plane really DID impact the Pentagon

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911 … dence.html


All the best - Joseph


P.S Just as an aside - ever looked at your money lately!?!

http://www.glennbeck.com/news/05172002.shtml

"IF YOU FALL DOWN EIGHT TIMES THEN GET UP NINE TIMES"

18 (edited by lyra 2004-09-15 16:54:28)

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JOSEPH wrote:

P.S Just as an aside - ever looked at your money lately!?!

http://www.glennbeck.com/news/05172002.shtml


You know, the first time I came across this website I wanted to laugh it off, but you have to admit, some of the results of the folding does make you stop and go "hmmmmm...."

(SIDENOTE!!!!!   I had an ear ringing in my right ear when I was smack in the middle of typing this................In almost 2 years of documenting my ear ringings, I have learned that the right ear for me is a confirmation, a big "yes!"    I usually always get right ear ringings when I'm having a thought that's relevant or important, or thinking a question about something.   Left ear ringings are usually monitoring.  Don't mean to sidetrack the conversation onto ear ringings since there is a thread already going about this somewhere here, but I just thought it might be relevant that I had one when responding about this link.)

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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That's telling. Whoa. I'm pissed now.

20 (edited by Lakme 2004-09-17 20:58:02)

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As Dave McGowan so succinctly puts its on his website "The Center for an Informed America:"

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr67.html

There are:

"...three nearly inescapable conclusions, each of which poses serious problems for those with a vested interest in selling the official mythology of what happened that day:

"The perfectly symmetrical and total collapse of three commercial highrise office buildings that day (WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7), the first such collapses in history, can only be explained as controlled demolitions, requiring a considerable amount of advance planning, preparation, expertise and access.

"The nation with the world's most formidable military apparatus, and with the world's most advanced air defense system, failed in every way imaginable to respond to the attacks, and failed to follow the most basic, routine, automatic procedures for responding to emergency situations. Not only did the Air Force and civil defense systems fail to respond, despite having more than ample time to do so, but the purported commander-in-chief also failed to respond, as did his staff and security detail, and all of his underlings.

"It is impossible to reconcile the documented damage to the Pentagon with the notion that it was struck by a 757 passenger jet. Evidence instead indicates that it was either struck by a missile (and not one launched from a cave in Afghanistan), or taken out with explosives planted within the building."

He also credibly debunks the whole "Peak Oil" theory of Mike Ruppert (fromthewilderness.com)and others, in a series of well-researched written articles, thereby enunciating further on the excellent "The Creepy Sides Of The 911 Truth Movement" article that aaronfirebrand referenced earlier.   

http://rense.com/general57/911.htm

There are "gatekeepers" in every movement and everywhere.

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Links to Insider Trading Info prior to 9-11, and the connection to CIA:
1. http://www.hereinreality.com/insidertrading.html
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/w … s_pt1.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/RUP110A.html
http://tbrnews.org/Archives/a048.htm
Also, about 100 million in credit card transactions were rushed through
the
WTC just before its collapse, and a German firm was recovering that
info
from hard drives pulled from the wreckage until they were bought out by
an
American company with longstanding ties to our government, who stopped
the
investigation:
http://www.rense.com/general39/germanfirmprobes.htm
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.ph … ber=124595
5
&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1&t=-1#Post1245955
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20an … appened_to
_the_wtc_hard_drives.htm
Links to Seismic data and eyewitness reports of bombs in WTC:
(also more on 9-11 profits, and other evidence o! f bombs)
http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/un … osions.htm
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/shake2.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/eyewitness.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_smoking_gun.html
How the Bombs were planted:
Links that tie Bush family to WTC security firm that called off bomb
sniffing dogs just before the weekend of Sept 6th, 2001, and the "power
down," that allowed them to plant explosives:
http://anderson.ath.cx:8000/911/hj05.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911security.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_smoking_gun.html
http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/man … 78sep12,0,
6794009.story
http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/powerdown.html
Here's where you can download the video and see the bombs for yourself,
and
other evidence
indicating a controlled demolition:
http://serendipity.ptpi.net/wtc5.htm
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_smoking_gun.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/trusstheory.html
Top Pentagon Officials cancel flights on Sept 10, 2001:
http://www.freepressinternational.com/sept10.html
Condi Rice warns Willie Brown not to fly on Sept. 11:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?id=1000
http://www.sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/08/1634286.php
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/05/Bush_knew2.html
Where was our Air Force and NORAD on 9-11? :
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0346/mondo4.php
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/time … fense.html
http://anderson.ath.cx:8000/911/pen10.html
http://www.vho.org/tr/2003/3/Elsis273-284.html#
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911stand.html
After a few years, they finally admit that they intentionally
demolished
7WTC:
http://www.infowars.com/print/Sept11/FDNY.htm
Engineers call 9-11 investigation a farce:
http://www.americanfreepress.net/Conspi … C_Probe/fi
re_engineers_call_wtc_probe.html
More Links to 9-11 eviden! ce:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC.htm
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_911.html
http://www.policestate21.com/
http://www.legitgov.org/9_1_1_oddities.html
http://911review.org/Wiki/Sept11WebSites.shtml
http://www.911investigations.net/
http://rense.com/Datapages/911_2.htm
http://www.911truth.org/
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911

All the best - Joseph

"IF YOU FALL DOWN EIGHT TIMES THEN GET UP NINE TIMES"

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Hot info en HARD PROOFS:

http://www.911inplanesite.com

http://thepowerhour.com/911_analysis/report.htm

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

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The 911 attack was carried out by the CIA, that is the fact. The cia, & the retilians and the neocons did the whole thing, there were missiles on the bottom of the planes, they were not american airlines, they were slightly smaller planes with no windows..., also a missile hit the pentagon, not a plane, no wreckage was ever recovered and the hole it leaft was way too small, the gasoline would have exploded like the planes that hit the buildings, yet the grass was still untouched at the pentagon, if u have any doubts then download and watch the movie
"911 - In Plane Site", its free and can be found on google.

Al-CIA-da  !!  get it!!

-the cia trained funded and set up the terrorists that did the attacks.Period!

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uhh, yeah exactly. Awake I just finished watching that vid and it said all those things . . . it was a really great one.

But I still don't feel like we even know the extent of the occurances that day . . . like there's something missing . . . but I'm just weird.

I am as is Void.

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In the case of 09/11 we have a big example how the Matrix is operating, ALTHOUGH respecting our Free Will:

In Montalk's article about the Matrix "Why Negative Forces Seem to Respect Freewill" regarding the concept of Clue Dropping, we have a huge clue:

The Carlyle Group connection of the Bush Family with the Bin Laden Family

The public is free to be informed about this connection, it has been broadcast on many TV-channels (also as clues ?), so IN GENERAL the public really does allow the invading of negative forces, exactly the way the mentioned article handles the concept of REALITY MANIPULATION.

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

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Thats very true Atlantis....I was thinking about that lately....Free will is always respected by negative forces....and would you know it.....the clues are abundant  and available to anyone who wishes to look at them....

In 1998...I was watching ABC tv one night and they played a fake video tape with Bin Laden face across the screeen proclaiming American blood....Ever since that year I was very interested in Bin Laden and talked to someone who was a family member of his...(it is quite large) they had told me he was not the monster the CIA was making him out to be....Indeed you are correct.......negative forces do respect free will.....We have to pay attention........

27 (edited by Atlantis 2004-10-22 13:25:18)

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Yes Menses, thanks for your interesting comments.

It seems the revealed/available clues are following a trend:

The bigger the "publiced" truth is, the bigger the clue, the bigger the reality manipulation.

i.e.

Carlyle Group ---> Fahrenheit 09/11 ---> Bush/Kerry Skull & Bones ---> Total Arrogance

or:

Moslem fundamentalism --> 09/11 Terrorism --> Middle-Eastern Wars --> Total Draft

The Matrix is full of correlations/analogies and synchronicities, however our FREE WILL is still respected !

So, the MATRIX must reveal some secrets while keeping on parasiting on our Free Will.

That's the only way the matrix is able to exist.

So, we have to stress how important the articles about the MATRIX and OPs here actually are.

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

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Hi, stopping in to read a few posts. I find all this interesting, even though some seems far fetched, and I first came here because I found the Montalk Organic Portals theory very very interesting and credible. I have to admit I cannot say one way or another, that I find it credible that some of this stuff is for real, and aliens reptiles and a lot of it seems like propganda or just hard to believe. Im just being honest, tho, not critical. Its interesting, but it seems kind of hard to believe. I read it all with interest thoughfully...and respect all posters but honestly dont know what to think of some of it.

"every good thought is adding to the rest of your life"

29 (edited by Lakme 2004-10-25 03:35:47)

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mermaidlinn wrote:

Hi, stopping in to read a few posts. I find all this interesting, even though some seems far fetched, and I first came here because I found the Montalk Organic Portals theory very very interesting and credible. I have to admit I cannot say one way or another, that I find it credible that some of this stuff is for real, and aliens reptiles and a lot of it seems like propganda or just hard to believe. Im just being honest, tho, not critical. Its interesting, but it seems kind of hard to believe. I read it all with interest thoughfully...and respect all posters but you dont know what to think of some of it.

Hi mermaidlinn --

There are plenty of resources out there on the ideas and information written about and presented here.  That is especially true about this particular topic of 9/11 and the garbage and fallacies we have all been fed concerning who is responsible, and what actually took place on that fateful day.       

You mention in this particular post that "...I cannot say one way or another, that I find it credible that some of this stuff is for real, and aliens reptiles and a lot of it seems like propaganda or just hard to believe."

For many, if not most, some of it is indeed "hard to believe," I do agree.

But, I would then ask you particularly, do you also find that what you have learned and are being constantly fed as "truth" by the mainstream media, government, politicians, the medical establishment, the educational system, organized religion, and all of the rest "seems like propaganda and is hard to believe?"

If so, I would suggest that you are in the right place.

For myself, this forum represents an exchange of ideas and information not easily or generally found elsewhere, and it contains a level of insight  that strongly resonates with where I'm at particularly in this process of "awakening" that I'm experiencing.  I, too, do not always necessarily agree with, or see things quite the same way as some others do on a variety of  topics that have been posted here.  On the other hand, I would say that much (if not most) of what is discussed and written here does resonate with my own feelings and thoughts, and I do believe that for those of us who are "waking up," this is an ideal place to learn, as well as to "teach."  If that is close to what you're feeling, then I would again suggest that you have found a great resource.

The other thought I had, regarding our own search for the truth -- relates to a statement many have alluded to right here in this forum, and that is that  "the answers have always been with you" (or some variation of that idea).  I believe that to also be true, and that in the end, we are all ultimately our own source for that which we seek.   

I wish you well in your journey.

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lyra wrote:
JOSEPH wrote:

P.S Just as an aside - ever looked at your money lately!?!

http://www.glennbeck.com/news/05172002.shtml


You know, the first time I came across this website I wanted to laugh it off, but you have to admit, some of the results of the folding does make you stop and go "hmmmmm...."

(SIDENOTE!!!!!   I had an ear ringing in my right ear when I was smack in the middle of typing this................In almost 2 years of documenting my ear ringings, I have learned that the right ear for me is a confirmation, a big "yes!"    I usually always get right ear ringings when I'm having a thought that's relevant or important, or thinking a question about something.   Left ear ringings are usually monitoring.  Don't mean to sidetrack the conversation onto ear ringings since there is a thread already going about this somewhere here, but I just thought it might be relevant that I had one when responding about this link.)


Sorry I overlooked responding to this Lyra. Like you I get strange ear stuff. It is an alternating two-tone pitched sound of a very high frequency. So high in fact that I'm not sure whether it is audible or sensed through some other means. A vibe? This two-one sound happens as a precursor to an abduction. Around ten / twelve hours beforehand. The sound last for about an hour.

All the best - Joseph

"IF YOU FALL DOWN EIGHT TIMES THEN GET UP NINE TIMES"