Topic: mind wars

I came across a website at

http://www.layinstitute.org

and then click on articles and then click on mind control

there are several articles about mind control and the early mind wars and synthetic telepathy there

apparently various agencies experimented on numerous people (including some of their own scientists) and drove these test subjects to early death by increased accident rates and suicide rates...

i have been dealing with not only schizophrenia (in which i genuinely need medications for and that control my condition) but also with

mind reading and thought projection

the best way i can describe it is that-- while i go about my daily activities (whether inside my apartment or outside in the city streets) i constantly hear external voices (of which i cant be sure where they emanate from), i cant tell if they come from invisible transdimensional forces following me and monitoring me (for whatever reason) or if i have really good hearing and can hear people's actual voices commenting on me (from passers-by or from the open windows of my nearby apartment courtyard neighbors)...

i have been dealing with and at times struggling with this for years now and it never stops (in some cases it gets worse)

sometimes i hear the voices (and the voices never sound like my own internal conscious-self voice, they sound like strangers) and they say things like "he's a hard one or hard case" (meaning that they have yet to succeed in driving me totally insane or to suicide or accident), or they say "he's a saint or angel", or they say "he's a secret agent", or they say "he's a psycho", or they say "he's a devil", or they say "he's a freak" or other such comments...

sometimes i find myself agreeing with them

mostly i tend to simply ignore them and not engage in debate or conversations with them

maybe i am some sort of test subject? with no forseeable escape...

it helps me to have an outlet like Noble Realms Forum just to try to explain all this and get it out into the open someway...

As a candle burning on, in the breezy shades of night, I keep up my faith and underset my hope, to call on a realm of light --Little Light of Love --Eric Serra --The Fifth Element (movie soundtrack)

Waving banners, swinging swords, queens and kings and other lords, and the battles of our pride, greed and hunger deep inside, all the sorrow born of pain, cruelty and cruelty again, who will stop this vicious spin, Open Arms and Let Love In  --My Heart Calling  --Moa and Eric Serra --The Messenger (movie soundtrack)

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we are such a judgemental species...

who says there's anything wrong with you, and most of the humans you interact with actually are programmed or just are being plain jerks. Did you ever stop to consider that the two are the exact same thing...

All it means is that it's time for nice people to take over the control system. yeah, right.

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I'll try to answer your questions and follow up with more details.

Yeah, they are jerks and the current control system doesnt seem likely to change.

I dont actually see the mouths moving, yes, they come from the direction of the persons speaking, but in some or many cases they seem to be in random locations from my apt complex, or from the city streets.  The voices have different intonations and dont sound like my inner self voice.

Once while with my mother and sister at a movie theater, I could hear the man behind us make statements like, "you three are cold, cold", and I asked my mother if she heard this man and she said yes, but she could not make out the exact words, a real jerk at a movie (which happens alot now adays).

At my apartment complex there is an outdoor courtyard and the apartments all face each other and when their windows are open I hear their voices (and sometimes cant make them out), I have trouble determing if the voices are from transdimensionals in invisble parallel dimensions in vans in the streets or in adjacent apartments.  While traveling and staying in hotel rooms for instance, I would hear voices from the nextdoor hotel room and when I walked out into the hallway, there was a house keeping cleaning woman, which tells me they must be in a parallel dimension in the same hotel room that the cleaning lady was vacuming.  Really strange.  One time I heard a clear voice emanate from a closed hotel door as I walked down the hotel hallway to get a soda.  He said-- "it's a sci-war, or psy-war". The voices are more intense while staying in hotel rooms.  They must be following me and they must have been wrongly told I am a threat (I'm non-violent and non-threatening, but I have got angry before at all of this and would talk out loud so the next door hotel room occupants (transdimensionals) would hear me.  At times I heard someone bang on the wall because I was talking too loud, so I stopped talking out loud as to not disturb the next room occupants.  If you've ever seen some homeless man talking out loud on the city streets, he is most likely mentally ill and on no medication, but still talking back to his voices.  I wonder how many homeless people are tragically victims of transdimensionals or earthly trapped spirits having sick fun taunting someone with ESP (extra sensory perception)?

This all reminds me of what the film industry has shown somewhat in films like Scanners (where in Canada, the main character walks into a mall and can acutely hear what the two older women are saying about how he looks, ragged and homeless).  Of course the whole head exploding bit in that movie is pure invention for sci-fi effect/plot.  In that movie they give the main character a shot of medicine and the tangled mixed voices he hears goes away (yet he is still able to mind read).  Another movie called The Next One (or Time Traveler) has a scene in it that shows the main character hearing a mixture of tangled voices talking about him.  Another movie, They Live, shows an invisble flying mechanical orb that monitors people and can only be seen with special sunglasses.

To further answer your questions, yes, I have very acute hearing.  The voices coming from actual people would be heard by others while most of the voices I make out definently come from invisible sources and cannot be heard by passer bys.

When I am bombarded by words they feel like they are actual differentiated words/voices and not my internal fualty imaginations (audial hallucinations).  They respond back when I engage in mental dialogue, but I tend to not engage and ignore them.

I guess I am hyper-keen, as you say

Thanks for the interest in my struggle.

My understanding is that I am dealing with one:

departed spirits trapped in the ethereal nearby dimensions

two:

synthetic techno transdimensional secret black ops wavelength intrusion and monitoring voices

three:

fallen angels/demons

four:

good angels occasionally (when I breakthrough to higher more benevolent realms/dimensions)

five:

purely brain dysfunction hallucinations (though rarely)

I guess you could call me a disabled psychic or clairaudient/clairvoyant (because I can also see violet spirit and angel etheric forms even when I close my eyes), or you could simply write it off as another nutty schizophrenic.

I read once in a Brad Steiger book that a preacher researched into paranormal/supernatural/conspiracy fields and then began to be harrased by them and when he traveled to Japan to give a lecture and they scanned his passport, they would not let him into the country.  It was also mentioned in the same book that there were supressed studies in psychiatric hospitals on the mentally ill that determined in some cases the sufferers were being possessed by demons and harrased by demonic voices.

Also from my point of view I am hyper sensitive (or sensitized, as a counselor once told me) which would explain the voices and coincidences/synchronicities I am having.

As a candle burning on, in the breezy shades of night, I keep up my faith and underset my hope, to call on a realm of light --Little Light of Love --Eric Serra --The Fifth Element (movie soundtrack)

Waving banners, swinging swords, queens and kings and other lords, and the battles of our pride, greed and hunger deep inside, all the sorrow born of pain, cruelty and cruelty again, who will stop this vicious spin, Open Arms and Let Love In  --My Heart Calling  --Moa and Eric Serra --The Messenger (movie soundtrack)

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hello KeenTraveller,
Most people do not even understand Mental Illness where one 's body needs medication.  My biological-Dad, needed
medication...It's to calm the body, the mind, and to allow the spirits in form.  Sure, It's ok to hear voices,
yet, you hear the voices outside of your body. 

Schizophrenia is a BIOlogical Disorder, not your heart, soul/spirit, nor Mind.

Dear Those that responded to this KeenTraveller, you are missing the point,...
I'm mean do you guys/gals, smoke pot, do  you do recreational drugs?

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THIS   ................IS ......................TOTALLY.....................DIFFERENT.......................

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No drugs, alcohol needed here, no tobacco, no nothing, One gets "naturally HIGH",,,,

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KeenTraveller,   like I suggested, get touched therapy, like Shiatu/Acupressure, take your Medication for you really do have  A Biological Imbalance within the Brain....NO   SHAME..........NO shame, dear one...........................................

My dad did too.  I re-member, He phoned me up one day, and said that he wasn't 'sick' for over 11 years.
(His Manic-Depressive!)...But like I wrote , his physical-body, got damaged from the 'lithium'.  "Lithiun is a derorative from the
rock Lepidolite!

Another suggestion, is leave the CITY, move to the Country.............PERIOD.....and eat well...

Bless, you are ok....for now, yes , take the medication, and live to your fullest, and enjoy!!!!

And what kind of Medication are you taking?  ....Which Rock is it from? 
If you find out, then bless that Rock...

Let me know,

We love you,

We honour you!

5 (edited by MonAmie-Zylo 2007-08-03 09:28:24)

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There are alot of good-non-physical-spirits, like humans, animals , etc, plants, flowers, that will support your journey, Regardless of the 'mental' feelings, you are welcome back from the War.  Period.  Now , move on, keentraveler,,,,, Love and Honour, regardless of what you have seen, been , or heard!

You are not alone, Love's energy  does support one's journey!

True enough, so you must seek physical enjoyment, physical- touch therapy, and cry, and cry,

And Behold the Child Within

6 (edited by MonAmie-Zylo 2007-08-03 09:36:42)

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Maybe I'm Tottaylly Wrong, here.  But if you don't need medication, thank god/goodess, I'm just as a nut/may walnut  case too..My biological family , thinks os....But Hey, Man/Woman, An artist, is an artist, and we get away with things

Bless the ROCK,
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(can't spell....bilingual, too, go figure)

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It's a sticky mess, wondering if homeless people are just more attuned, thereby unable to fit in with normal society. OR, they have serious drug/alochol problems that tweak thier brains ever so slightly and then they can't turn the stuff OFF.
       You can never really tell, though I can't say I haven't considered going over 'the deep end' due to inability to just fit in these days. I'm too darn stubborn to be a homeless drunk/drug user though.
       The other sticky spot I too came across in figure out why I see and feel what I do is how much of it is 'normal' psychosis justified by all the information out there on the internet. I had to really humble down at one point, and stop playing the 'cloak and dagger, they are watching me' stuff, just to see if I was IMAGINING it all.
   This is not to say you are Keentraveler. All I'm saying is that you have to entertain all manner of possiblities and narrow down your choices based on true observations. The first thing I did in that area was go back to experiences of when I had NO KNOWLEDGE of conspiracy theories or hyperdimensional realitys. In my case, childhood. Indeed, there were enough expeirences there to warrent considering that I wasn't trying to just make myself seem even more different and important.
  A few things that have helped me immensley.
  Mediate...alot. Not for New Age mumbo jumbo reasons but to distinguish where your voices end and THIERS BEGIN. Your posts suggest that you are aware of that, which is good. Another thing about mediation that I just figured out, is don't just BE IN YOUR HEAD. Theres a spot, just below your navel where Don Juan says is your Will. I started concentrating on this just as much as my, higher energy centers and the results were quite extrodinary. Firstly, I could FEEL certain people and things tug on my will. This world is designed to exhaust you so much by day, that at night all you want is to just pass out. I found that I could dodge alot of these 'will sappers' which gave me alot more energy.
   If you join the spot of the will, with the spot in the center of your head, you have the will to turn off alot of the voices, or at least pinpoint them better. I've had a clarity of mind rarely experienced for the past few months, which increased my perceptions ten fold. It's amazing what we overlook...
  Diet.
  Diet is really important. too much crap gum's up your works and makes it harder to function. Be sure to have a well rounded diet with lots of greens. Dump sugar and especially ASPERTAME. This stuff is DESIGNED to muddle your brain.
  Exerciese.
  Not to look buff or anything. Just to cleanse your lymphatic system and keep your circulatory system tuned enough to keep everything flowing. Stagnant energy means avenues for attack.
   There are alot of people fighting with this stuff, myself included. It's not fun or easy, and most times quite daunting.
   Especially when you consider a hyperdimensional race of time traveling beings aeons more technologically advanced than you as your foe.
   One step at a time...

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Pamelajean,

I'll go into a bit more detail for those interested in my experiences...

Yes, I do hear occasional good voices... its when the angels or departed spirits who are of a higher dimension than the oppressive neg beings (whether they are trans-dimensionals, ghosts, hungry ghosts, malevolent departed spirits, spies like CIA, NSA, DIA, AirForce, FBI, or ultra-terrestrials- highly advanced humans or extra-terrestrials, demon/fallen angels)... when the good ones break through the spiritual eggshell around me... I hear them say things like "he really is a previous angel", or "he really is a saint", or "he's a wanderer", or "he's a spaceman", or "he's a good person", or an Irish voice say "you made it sonny!"

When I was on the run (trying to find a place with good vibes) scouting for greener pastures (an illusion) and staying in hotels, the strangest phenomenon occured...

I would hear celebrity voices (especially Bruce Willis who once said "he's hard, really hard" while I drove from Mt. Shasta, CA to Salt Lake City, UT in 14hrs/one day), and like Nicole Kidman (divorced from Tom Cruise, whom I have met in dreams, in one or two Tom was malevolent), Nicole would comment on my thoughts while I lay in bed in the hotel room, she would say "uh hum, uh hum" in agreeance, and other things too...

When I stayed near Sacramento, CA, many old departed movie star spirits protected me from the malevolent voices and I slept better that night.

Plus, and this is a big one (I have posted in detail on the Shirley MacLaine, actor's, website), I seem to be interacting with the spirit of Marilyn Monroe.  At first I thought it was military project blue beam tech trying to play and fool with me.  But, when I learned to close and cover my eyes I would see her indigo colored outline and she frequently dances for me and blows me kisses to brighten up my spirits.  She whispered in my left ear once while I was living in Oregon, the coast, and was thinking of suicide by drowning myself, I did not attempt it.  I have had a connection with Marilyn ever since my high-school days (the mid eighties) when I read the Antony Summers controversial book Goddess (where they detailed how she could have been killed by the Mafia and/or the Kennedy's, they pointed out a bruise in the autopsy that could have disguised an injection site for a lethal dose of chemicals).  Marilyn shares something else in common with me too, her mother had schizophrenia and was institutionalized with it, something Marilyn always feared, going crazy like her mom.

I believe my connection to Marilyn has gone on now since the mid-eighties and continues today (just saw her the other night) because our soul group is the same and we are like soul-mates and friends (nothing sexual), almost like siblings.

There are theories that Marilyn, while sleeping with the President (JFK) and Bobby (Kennedy), learned of the extra-terrestrial presence and was finally going to hold a press conference on the Monday following the day she died (Sat).  Also, there would be full motive to silence her just for the fact that she was having affairs with the President and his brother (I dont hold a high opinion of the Kennedy's like some baby boomers do, they were womanizers).  I dont approve of Marilyn's judgment in having these affairs, but I certainly forgive her.

I have collected alot of Marilyn Monroe photobooks and other books (bios) and always buy the new Graphique de France yearly calanders.

I think Marilyn is in a better place (I once believed I had to rescue her someway, either presently, or after I die and pass over) and her possible function is too cheer up people like me (who have mental illness like her mother had), with her saving me from suicide and my wanting to help her (maybe I was an angel looking after her while she was alive, I was born in 69) she has accomplished her goals.

As of late I have had less celebrity encounters.  Though just last nite (as I write in my journals) I kissed Winona Ryder, and talked with Natalie Portman.  Once, Kate Winslet called me dangerous in a dream.  I listed the over 100 different celebrities that I have interacted with in my dreams on the Shirley MacLaine web board (and once Shirley replied to my "travel widens perspective" thread, it was really detailed with my wanting to travel with the ultra-terrestrials aboard flying silver discs and time travel to various historic periods, basically I wanted to be an angel again).

It seems when I travel and stay in hotels, the voices increase and I even hear real sounds and voices/agents outside in the hallways (I ignore them).

While staying in Half Moon Bay, CA in 2005, there were govt license plated cars parked outside and I heard one of the agents next door to my hotel room say "should we haul him in?", and the phone rang and the two agents said outloud after hanging up that "we cant, its a movie and music industry thing"...

I must have protection or immunity from higher sources (whether real world govt ops, or ultra-terrestrial, angels)?

Friends in high places, which I am grateful for.

The sad thing is, I lost my mom last May and I live alone now in a big city, though I drive out to the natural scenic environment sometimes to get a spiritual uplift.

Like in the Harry Potter movie "Prisoner of Azkaban", where Ron Weasley reads a tea cup fortune--"your gonna suffer, but you'll be happy about it".

MonAmie:

Thanks again for your input...

Yes, the medicine is necessary for me, and it helps (no shame).

I am a bit of an artist too, a poet (I have written a collection of 100 poems registered with the copyright office, couldnt get them published though).

Yes, touch therapy is good (like hugs from friends or relatives), though I did not like reiki therapy.

Well, thats enough of this typing for now.

As a candle burning on, in the breezy shades of night, I keep up my faith and underset my hope, to call on a realm of light --Little Light of Love --Eric Serra --The Fifth Element (movie soundtrack)

Waving banners, swinging swords, queens and kings and other lords, and the battles of our pride, greed and hunger deep inside, all the sorrow born of pain, cruelty and cruelty again, who will stop this vicious spin, Open Arms and Let Love In  --My Heart Calling  --Moa and Eric Serra --The Messenger (movie soundtrack)

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GreyCat:

thanks for the thoughts and advice on meditation and diet, I never was a good meditator (though i am mostly calm most of the time)

yes, i know what's happening to me is real and not an illusion of my mind, mainly because I have been dealing with it since 1990 (during my tour of duty overseas in Korea) and before the whole internet proliferation and mass disinfo mechanizations...

its way too constantly present and palpabal to dismiss, I am sure there are others out there with similar life stories (I have met some on the city streets and in Vets Hospitals), my God, just think of all those Pink Floyd lyrics and songs about On the Run, or One of these Days (were gonna get you!), or Shine On you Crazy Diamond, and Echoes, The Wall, The Division Bell, --all which I can relate to...  also the Roger Water's solo music effort where he sings of the bravery of killing someone from far away like from jets, or how much a submarine captain makes (as of a few yrs ago, over $200,000 a yr)

again thanks

As a candle burning on, in the breezy shades of night, I keep up my faith and underset my hope, to call on a realm of light --Little Light of Love --Eric Serra --The Fifth Element (movie soundtrack)

Waving banners, swinging swords, queens and kings and other lords, and the battles of our pride, greed and hunger deep inside, all the sorrow born of pain, cruelty and cruelty again, who will stop this vicious spin, Open Arms and Let Love In  --My Heart Calling  --Moa and Eric Serra --The Messenger (movie soundtrack)

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KT,

    No problem. Like I mentioned, the first is to figure out what is real, and what you could potentially be fabricating. Also, one of the key observations of the homeless is that thier diets are crap and substance abuse is usually at a maxium. This usually leads to maddness and depression. Your body is your tool and I like to think of it as a physical EXTENSION of your inner self as opposed to something we are just stuck in, or some 'vehicle' we will discard eventually. It can give you sure signs of what is going on with your inner self. Sort of a basic road map for the journey inward.

    Meidtation is the language of the inner workings. There are all sorts of things going on in your head that may not be yours. The only way to figure it out is to GO IN THERE AND LOOK AT IT ALL. Theres a whole universe of stuff your connected to in your head that you either learn to regulate or it regulates you.
   
  Good luck, and don't let the bastards grind you down...

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Hi again,

Pamelajean,

Yes, i have a big disability when it concerns energy and concentration.  Its why I stay inside my apartment alot and am sometimes fearful of going out onto the city streets.  I go to get daily walking exercise when I can, to a coffee cafe for instance.  I try not to drive much in city traffic and only to the video store or grocery store or Vets Hospital (once every couple of months, for them to treat and monitor my condition).  I am also so dragged down by the constant litany of voices that follow and plague me.

Lately, I have not been getting my mail, and am worried someone in my apartment complex is stealing it (a federal offense).  Someone slided my bank statement under my door the other day and it was opened and so now someone or many know what I  make each month, but I am not worried much since i dont make much.  The apt complex is labeled secure entry, but thats a joke since people sometimes leave the doors open to the outside city streets and just the other week the office put out a sheet of paper warning people not to let in strangers, and that a stranger gained access and was fooling with opening apt doors...

When you're already paranoid, things like this make it worse.

I have not received my credit card statement, so now I am worried about identity theft and those in my apt complex knowing my debt status.

As far as living an exciting life, I often wish my life were simpler and less troublesome.

I remember a song lyric by the Doors and Jim Morrison (from the song, The Movie, maybe) where he says: "have you lived a "" life?, enough to base a movie on?"

As far as writing a book, I thought I could try, and I did, but it went nowhere.  I dont have the concentration, energy, drive, motivation, or talent to.

I have not written a poem in years and feel depressed alot.  With my mother's passing, I have felt a real wake up call that I am on my own now for better or worse.  I have no relatives nearby (they are thousands of miles away), but i have chosen my particular city (which I wont name for privacy) because its the only place I feel i fit in... i have a sister and step father that i talk to on the phone weekly, but I never discuss any of the strange parts of my life because they dont want to hear it.

Thus, i began posting here again for some little consolation.

As far as the physical realm being the weakest and our bodies being subtly possessed (perhaps overshadowed as David Icke describes as demonic reptilians who take ahold of certain bloodlines and dna corrupted genes), I agree, and am one of these, though I feel non-possessed in recent years, as opposed to previous years or a few times when I was ranting and raving in hotel rooms and my apartment abodes (even being kicked out of one apartment complex due to severe decompensation).  I am 100% certifiable, yes, but basically good hearted and well meaning easy going whatever gets you through the day or night kind of  person.

Like GreyCat pointed out:

How can one defend themselves and deal with a race of aliens and human collaborators that are eons ahead of us?

Its really tough, and I am surprised I have made it this far, and some of my veteran friends are in an early grave due to all this...

Well, that's all I can think of for now,

I dont mean to seem in my threads to always get the last word in, I only mean to respond as best I can.

As a candle burning on, in the breezy shades of night, I keep up my faith and underset my hope, to call on a realm of light --Little Light of Love --Eric Serra --The Fifth Element (movie soundtrack)

Waving banners, swinging swords, queens and kings and other lords, and the battles of our pride, greed and hunger deep inside, all the sorrow born of pain, cruelty and cruelty again, who will stop this vicious spin, Open Arms and Let Love In  --My Heart Calling  --Moa and Eric Serra --The Messenger (movie soundtrack)

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Somebody posted on this site the subject of predator and prey.  He even suggested that we are here to resolve our predator/prey issues.  I didn't really put much weight to the matter, I didn't toss it out with the bathwater either.

hmm... prey would have excellant periferal vision, hearing, smell, perhaps even extra-sensory perceptions.

and... predator would have focused vision, excellant hearing and smell also, and perhaps even extra-sensory perception.

Predator might need periferal vision too, they have to fight other predators.

Prey might have focused vision also, the sooner you discern a predator, the more time allowed for evasion.

The ones who do best are people who nurture other people and allow themselves to be nurtured.  The ones at the top fight with others who want to be at the top.  The ones at the bottom are remembering bad treatment from those at the top and the inevitability of more of the same.  They are trapped by the illusion of being perpetually victimized.  Predators are concerned with would be challengers taking what they possess, grrr!

aah, I don't even know what I'm talking about.

Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement.
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You have to believe in the impossible in order to become.

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Antaeus,

Interesting thoughts.

There is a dualistic nature to your thoughts, predator vs prey.

But there is truth in it.

I could have possibly become the predator if I would have joined Special Forces in my military days, or the Intelligence Agencies.  Though in the end it was not my path or professional choice.  I decided to rebel instead, and now find myself to be the prey.  All with acute senses and perceptions in the hunt and the hunted.

I know some veterans who have chosen the same path as me, some Spec Forces vets, who are now on the receiving end of harrassment and surveillance. 

Our lives are based on the choices we make, and perhaps i created this situation for myself.

I do feel like a lone wolf, and have been told by other former military vets that I might actually be part Sirian wolf-like in dna and origin, though if I am a wolf, and misunderstood to be a danger (most wild wolves are not liked by ranchers and have a bad reputation of predators, but the social and nature of wolves is amazing to study and watch them in their natural environments), I am a good wolf, hunted and taunted by higher up evil serpents and wolves... maybe even the vampiric humans (I have seen them in nightclubs, they are a weird subculture in major American and European cities, who actually drink blood and believe themselves to be vampires, its a condition they're in and there are groups like Facade who exist to role play and who knows what else they malevolently do?)

As a candle burning on, in the breezy shades of night, I keep up my faith and underset my hope, to call on a realm of light --Little Light of Love --Eric Serra --The Fifth Element (movie soundtrack)

Waving banners, swinging swords, queens and kings and other lords, and the battles of our pride, greed and hunger deep inside, all the sorrow born of pain, cruelty and cruelty again, who will stop this vicious spin, Open Arms and Let Love In  --My Heart Calling  --Moa and Eric Serra --The Messenger (movie soundtrack)

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Pamelajean wrote:

"There is a dualistic nature to your thoughts, predator vs prey"

Personally, I feel we are all predators and we are all prey.  The almighty ego sees to it that we seek gratification/sustenance. Even in our doing good toward others we get energy; it's a symbiotic universe. We're all just food...

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Keentraveler, Pamelajean is getting tired now and needs a nap. Ha, I'm just kidding Pamelajean, but to end on that note can't have felt real good. 

Now the Cross of Red
Points to the Grave of the Mighty Dead
Within in it burns a wondrous light
To chase the spirits that love the night
That lamp shall burn unquenchably
Until the eternal doom shall be

No earthly flame blazed e'er so bright...

Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement.
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You have to believe in the impossible in order to become.

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keentraveler wrote:

Antaeus,

Interesting thoughts.

There is a dualistic nature to your thoughts, predator vs prey.

But there is truth in it.

I could have possibly become the predator if I would have joined Special Forces in my military days, or the Intelligence Agencies.  Though in the end it was not my path or professional choice.  I decided to rebel instead, and now find myself to be the prey.  All with acute senses and perceptions in the hunt and the hunted.

I know some veterans who have chosen the same path as me, some Spec Forces vets, who are now on the receiving end of harrassment and surveillance. 

Our lives are based on the choices we make, and perhaps i created this situation for myself.

I do feel like a lone wolf, and have been told by other former military vets that I might actually be part Sirian wolf-like in dna and origin, though if I am a wolf, and misunderstood to be a danger (most wild wolves are not liked by ranchers and have a bad reputation of predators, but the social and nature of wolves is amazing to study and watch them in their natural environments), I am a good wolf, hunted and taunted by higher up evil serpents and wolves... maybe even the vampiric humans (I have seen them in nightclubs, they are a weird subculture in major American and European cities, who actually drink blood and believe themselves to be vampires, its a condition they're in and there are groups like Facade who exist to role play and who knows what else they malevolently do?)

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When an old Celtic warrior, such as Cuchulain, returned from battle, the whole community would take part in the ritual.  Sometimes a group of women, his mother among them, would bare their breasts at him to awaken compassion, and the men would place him, still in the madness of the heated midbrain, into three tubs of water, one after another, to cool him down.  The first tub would vanish on contact, the second would boil away, and so on.  We asked men to become soldiers. But there have been no ceremonies emphasizing compassion, no acknowledgement of heat, no honoring of a requested madness.  The Vietnam veterans would be in better shape today if we had arranged a festival in every small town in the country, in which the veterans had ridden by, and a young woman had thrown them golden apples.  That parade would have honored their return to domestic life, and included them in ceremonies of the golden apples, thousands of years old.  The army flew them to New York and dumped them into the street.  We all know what happened. 

More Vietnam veterans have now committed suicide since the war than died during it.  Our pacifistic women here in America actually killed more of our soldiers than the Vietnamese did.  No, I don't believe that to be true.  Nevertheless, I felt compelled to make that unqualified statement.

The good conscience is the invention of the devil.

The pacifist is bound to be right some of the time.

The situationist could be wrong everytime.  Some wars are unjust.  I don't know that Bush is wrong, I don't know if he is right.  I know what Islam is all about.  They seem to forget that you are not supposed to conquer all the evil in the world, but rather confront it within yourself.  Nearby there is a rainbow and pretty little songbirds of many colors and the sound of falling water with mist shrouded green hills.

Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement.
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You have to believe in the impossible in order to become.