16 (edited by calpamu 2007-07-27 00:46:55)

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Well now that's just made me think about a short vid I watched about phone tappings and technologies.

You seen this yet?

http://www.icomment.org/index.php/main/ … :Video:127

Federal Goverments wire-tapping system vunerable.


Israel spies? Organised Crime?  aye blame them, lol. My arse.

Watch Powells slip, the are being retained,...detained....

and the usual helping of "War on Terror" caption popping up.

Smells so bad I can smell it from here.

17 (edited by Bhang 2007-07-27 13:20:49)

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Great link calpamu but Israeli involvement in 9/11?

Nah... just because some "ex"-Mossad agents got arrested for giving high-fives and taking photos of the WTC disaster and Israeli companies broke their leases to leave the WTC weeks before, or Israeli's being tipped off not to come to work that day doesn't mean Israeli intelligence is involved... what are you anti-Semite?

http://www.wachadoo.com/forum/files/zionistowers3_462.jpg

http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/uploads/anti-zion-nazi-jews.jpg

Then I wonder why I would possibly be on a "watch list"...

http://i12.tinypic.com/6bepiqu.jpg

I shall respond in depth when I get more time... till then ciao!

Hyperdimensional Blogging

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Sorry about the above but it was relevant to the 9/11 statement/article/video.

MonAmie-Zylo:

Ah , dear one, I met a few young guys that 'been in Aghanistan, Iraq, etc.  Your Back Now.  Let it go,

Sorry MonAmie, but you cant just "let it go". While growing up I never understood why everyone made fun of Vietnam Vets. They would joke around "Well I remember back in Nam" and we would all have a good laugh... but after I hit my twenties and had learned a bit from real vets and learning in depth about the 60's and the hippy movement it began to sink in on me just how hard these fellows really had it. Not only were many drafted from their their children, family friends, home, jobs, and lives, they also had to face a bunch of pissed off hippies who had been been busy f*cking and tripping on LSD dreaming about love, while the vets had to deal with the psychological damage of murdering other human beings including women and babies... I was fooled into service because of 9/11 and have been to war lady. I didn't just sit around in some air-conditioned building pushing paperwork. I patrolled the streets of Baghdad every day for 17 months. I've been in multiple fire fights (shoot-outs) and was nearly killed and wounded in a rocket-propelled grenade attack. I was present when a car bomb exploded at an Iraqi military recruiting station that shred 47 to pieces. Arms and legs were hanging from the fence and people were torn in half, the survivors were screaming in agony. Blood and chunks of meat were everywhere... that type of stuff a person doesn't just "let go". You can't. It haunts you in your dreams. It lurks in the subconscious constantly trying to bubble to the surface and the mind struggles to subdue the inevitable memories returning... please remember that we can't "let it go".

Soloflecks:

That must be how they had those people calling their loved ones from the "hijacked" planes on 9/11.

I've pondered over this exact senerio. I have 3 soultions.
1.Real victims made real calls before they died.
2.The tapes were recorded by voice acotors/ governmnet cover-up.
3.The people making the calls were working on top-secret projects and have either gone to work in some underground facility for the rest of their days, or they have left the planet to work elsewhere in the universe (Moon/Mars/Peladies) hence real emotions when saying goodbyes.

Honestly I don't pretend to know but am suprised to learn I have "fans". smile

Freeme:

Some of that time is spent muti-taking, or multi-distracting

I'd like to quote you because that was well put! Yet I've never trust these studies. Even if you study 100 Million people for any topic... you still have about 8.9 BILLION people to account for. Most of these "studies" are only a small cross section of white upper-middle-class families. The kids who get to be kids, that is - their parents are not strict with them and let them do almost whatever, play about 8 to 12 hours a day. This I've learned from a small cross section as well yet my instincts tell me these kids reflect a percentage of the nation. The majority of kids in a school, after school program, or at home will tell you they would rather be playing video games. They would actually get bored of gaming if new games were not constantly pumped out. They get tired of playing but instead of getting up and doing something else they just pop in a different game - it's just like changing the channel. From my personal experience about 85% of the children I meet and speak with have no hobbies besides gaming.

Lyra:

BHANG!

Wow........I don't even know where to begin................In my book I talk about a near-same experience, the "marching boots" on the phone thing.  It's happened to me twice.

I also talk about being blasted with this loud, totally crazy noise thing, like what you describe.

This hasn't happened recently - the marching boots was back in late 2001 to early 2002, the blast of noise was back in '98.   But to see you talking about the same thing.....wow!!!!

I'll just cut and paste from my book to save having to re-type it all over again.  I've highlighted the stuff that's relevant to what you posted, as well as including the other examples just in case you're curious to read:

I must reply with a WOW as well! I told my close friend about this and even told my blogger buddie jedimaster, both of whom entertained my story but I could feel the doubt lingering in the forefront of their minds. If I asked them if they believed me they would say yes but I feel if I speak about it anymore with them the bullshit detectors will come on. So to see that I'm not the only one is a GREAT sigh of relief because I thought no one would believe it. I mean us getting called by some men in black - whatever, put the crack down man!
So to see you have written about this (book title please) hints that this is a program or project still in operation that is targeting those who seek answers and who are not afraid as other sheeples.
In my opinion it was like some sort of control room. If any of you have seen 'A Scanner Darkly" then you can get a feel of what I was envisioning. Some real life agents called to send me/us a message. Lyra seems to have ignored them but I must ask what were your major actions/events in your life months after those calls? What were you doing to receive the call? Did the call effect your habits? (Social,personal, pyschological) and why not care/ignore it? Were you 'supposed' to "no longer care" about the calls?

When you stop caring, and they'll stop harassing.

Or maybe when you have stopped caring they have achieved victory?

Amen to that.  I haven't owned a cell phone since I moved to Florida in 2002.  I can't stand the whole technology culture of our society, every other person out there with a fricking cell phone in their ear, or ear plugs in their ear so they look like they're talking to themselves, this need to constantly be yammering away to somebody at all times about pointless mundane nothing, even while being rung up by cashiers at the store or while sitting at a restaurant eating a meal.  God forbid we have some silence and actually face ourselves and go within.  Oh no.  Can't have that.  NOISE! NOISE! NOISE!  TALK! TALK! TALK!  DISTRACT! DISTRACT! DISTRACT!   I absolutely hate it, and seeing people with cell phones in their ears makes me angry at this point.  I want to grab the phones right out of their ears and throw them under the nearest moving car or stomp on them.

Amen.

Pinkrlyq:

a very loud and strange static-like sound was blared through the phone.  It sounded like someone held something up to the phone, that's how loud it was!  And it wasn't only static, but there were what sounded like frequency generator tones, from high to low range, but all at once.  It startled me so badly I didn't know what to do, but right after that sound was blared through the phone, the caller hung up with an audible "CLICK"

That's a very compelling description and must concur that the "Men in Black" gave you a ring.

It was sometime after 11:30 pm when the house phone rang.  My parents went to sleep a couple hours before, and they forbid any of our friends to call after 8 or 9 pm, but I didn't have any friends that would be calling me, so I wasn't worried about getting in trouble.  I didn't want the ringing to wake up my parents, so I grabbed the phone and said, "Hello?"  But there was only heavy breathing, but it didn't sound like a crank... it sounded like someone who was huffin' and puffin' from being out of breath.  So I asked again, "hello?"... And a few seconds later, the breathing on the other end seemed to ease a bit, and a soft, male voice that sounded very distant, hesitantly and timidly said, "h-hello?".... So being the idiot I am, I repeated again, "Hello?"  And after another short pause his voice came distantly again, "....p-please h-help me...."  I said, "Who are you?"  He said, "Michael.... please help...."  He sounded scared, as if running from someone or something.

What an awful loose end. I hope it was a prank because that sounds bad.

As far as these calls are concerned I'd love to read any other stories of "phone anomalies". Is it a warning from some federal agents? Is it a mind control program? I just don't know but I do know just from this thread(if everyone is being honest) that wherever these calls are placed from it is an office type environment with curious technologies involved.

I hope to hear from others on the list.

Hyperdimensional Blogging

19 (edited by lyra 2007-07-29 09:54:53)

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Bhang wrote:

I must reply with a WOW as well! I told my close friend about this and even told my blogger buddie jedimaster, both of whom entertained my story but I could feel the doubt lingering in the forefront of their minds. If I asked them if they believed me they would say yes but I feel if I speak about it anymore with them the bullshit detectors will come on. So to see that I'm not the only one is a GREAT sigh of relief because I thought no one would believe it. I mean us getting called by some men in black - whatever, put the crack down man!

So to see you have written about this (book title please) hints that this is a program or project still in operation that is targeting those who seek answers and who are not afraid as other sheeples.

Here's the direct link:

http://in2worlds.net/abductions2

(the main website is www.in2worlds.net)

You don't have to worry about having to pay to read it either, the PDF version is free/donation only, although there is the option of a hard copy for purchase for those who'd like to have a physical book in hand. 

Something else that's mentioned in the book that you might find interesting (speaking of "control rooms" later in your post) is how some MILABS (military abductees), myself included, have experienced the neg entities that come around in the sleep state to harass once we start questioning things and looking closer.  So there we are duking it out with neg entities, duking it out...duking it out...then we notice that wait a minute....there are human male voices talking back and forth on what sounds like radios in the background of our minds.  So yeah, it has that "control room" feel to it, like you described.  If I was the only one who'd experienced that I'd be liable to dismiss it, but one other person close to me has experienced it as well, and another person I know through NR who I've emailed with experienced what seemed to be neg entity harassment the second he started questioning his life's events and realizing he very well may have been programmed in his younger years. (comes from an air force family, family dynamics were really bizarre, not normal, etc.)   He didn't get the people talking back and forth on the radios thing, but he did get the weird neg entities coming around "coincidentally" the second he started looking closer.

There was another time I was duking it out with a supposed neg entity and a sarcastic male Them "cut in on the line" to make fun of a particular technique I was using, snickering about it all.  !!

So male voices on radios in the background and cutting in on the line leads one to have to ask....how real are these "entities"??   Are they manipulations of the mind being orchestrated remotely by human elements? (like through implants, or microwave/energy beams).  Real entities being sent by human elements who are knee deep in occult doings?  Programs that have been instilled in one's mind to deter them from going further in the event that the begin waking up?  I don't know, but I get into it all in my book, among a ton of other stuff.  So if you're interested, check it out.   Again, it's both for sale and for free, so easily accessible.


Bhang wrote:

...but I must ask what were your major actions/events in your life months after those calls? What were you doing to receive the call? Did the call effect your habits? (Social,personal, pyschological)....

Oh, there was definitely "activity of interest" to them going on at that time when this stuff happened.  wink  I get into it all on my website, (see link above, or click on "website" under my name lyra).  It all traced back to my brother, who had "stuff" going on to him.  (talk about that in my book too.)  When I was trying to get him back in my life, and we were on the phone long distance, we'd get the phone tapping harassment, including that loud blaring noise I mentioned.  There's so much to say about it all, I don't want to get into it all here unless you're interested, don't want to bore you or repeat what's already on my website or in my book, but yeah, I mean, this stuff was going on because of the people I suddenly was connected to in life, people who also had MILABS and/or alien abductions going on and monitoring and programming.  But at the same time it must be noted that it seems I had stuff going on my whole life.  But I didn't have the weird, overt harassment going on with the phones....until I linked back up with my brother in life.  And then the neg entities didn't start until I began....talking about all of this.  Writing a book, looking closer, seeking answers, connecting up to people who also have craziness going on, and thus causing them to look closer and question their lives, etc.


Bhang wrote:

....and why not care/ignore it?.....Were you 'supposed' to "no longer care" about the calls?.......Or maybe when you have stopped caring they have achieved victory?

Based on everybody else whom I've read about or talked to or emailed with who has also experienced the various forms of harassment, whether it's phone tapping, black helicopters, neg entities or open signs of having been abducted and programmed, it seems quite clear that their goal is to instill fear.......and keep the target in that state permanently.  Not to have a target stop caring, although I understand what you mean by that.  By "not caring" you're thinking it means that one gives up and lets Them just have their way and do whatever they want.  That's not what I mean.  I mean, dropping the fear...........then combatting them in a head on, matter-of-fact, leveled frequency way, seeing through the silly games, as I'll illustrate shortly.

I connected up to my higher self one night in early 2003, and in our brief exchange (which I talk about on my website  http://in2worlds.net/the-higher-self ) I was given input about the fear frequency, and when I asked if it was "them" that was behind all this crazy harassment that had been happening to both Tom and I all those months prior, I got a firm Yes.  They were doing it to keep me scared, all the time.

And literally like that, overnight, I lost most of the fear.  How could I keep being scared of these things that are happening when I now knew there was a "Man Behind the Curtain" orchestrating it all?   You just can't, it now becomes REALLY ridiculous, like a game.   

I still experienced a few heli harassments after that into the spring and summer, but my higher self walked me through those too, and showed me what to do and then they stopped coming around as well. (which is mentioned in my book.)  Haven't had any since.

But to answer your question, losing the fear and no longer caring was not supposed to happen, imo.  That does NOT seem to be their goal.  They don't seem to want, or anticipate, people becoming blase and eye rolling about it.  My research and observations have confirmed this, since in nearly all cases people become completely worked up by this stuff....and then remain in that state, often times to the point of shrinking up and withdrawing from living a normal life.  That seems to be the goal of it all..........................lower a person's personal frequency and terrorize them to the point where they're not living normally.  Where "THEY" have become the center focal point of  a person's life.  Everything soon becomes about "Them."  Every thing that happens, "Their" behind it and a target becomes extremely self conscious of "them" to the point where it impacts everything they do. 

I believe, based on my own personal experience, that when a person loses the fear then this petty sidetrack circus diversion harassment (helis, tapped phones and silly phone craziness, vans parked outside people's homes, etc.) either drastically tapers off or stops altogether. 

Think of it as being a lab rat in a maze, being poked and messed with.  That's what it is.   When you see it as that, the lab rat mind games, then it loses its power.

Now, does this mean that "THEY" will completely leave person's reality altogether?

Probably not.  I'll be realistic.  But all the "Let's f*ck with the lab rat!!  Poke! Poke! Poke!" nonsense will stop.  wink  Now, they'll quietly go back to doing whatever real work they want to do with a target, but minus all the petty "side track circus diversion" harassment. 

See, there seems to be two layers going on with a target/abductee:   The surface layer harassment to keep the lab rat running around squeaking in terror (because a lowered frequency is easier to work with) and then the real work that the Mad Scientists want to do, be it programming and mind control, or side work that they're using targets for, etc.

And I think that even that the "real work" stuff can be combatted as well.   That's where awareness and self stalking come in.  For instance on this end, we keep close tabs on ourselves and take proactive measures to monitor our environment, but yet paradoxally there's no fear or apprehension involved.  Our mindset is that we're aware that they're around, because they've been around our whole lives, so, you know, it's understood, but we're not scared.  It's all just matter-of-fact.   They may no longer be sending helis around or doing other sidetrack circus diversion stuff, but it doesn't mean they're not still interfering in our lives and trying to have their way.   There is clear evidence that they still are.   So Tom keeps his voice activated tape recorder going at night, we both pay attention to our dreams for signs of programming/interference, (they can plug into people while they sleep to do this) and we monitor any shifts in personality and moods.  And when it seems that programming or interference has occurred, we're able to recognize it and not respond to it, do the opposite, whatever.  Among other things.   

That's just a quick, Readers Digest condensed version of it, but I hope that gives you an idea....

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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20 (edited by calpamu 2007-07-30 00:45:32)

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... what are you anti-Semite?

I can assure you I am not. (*Chuckles*...thanks for brighting up my day. smile )

21 (edited by MonAmie-Zylo 2007-07-30 15:52:38)

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Hello Bhang.  This thread was started by Keentraveler.  With additional comments, we learn
that about the ' war.' those that participated , here on Noble Realms.

Keentravler:  Thanks for the concern for us military veterans, there is still dislike from civilians of all ages towards returning or former service men and women.

I met Vietnam Vets.  Yes, I understood very well your post.
In fact, the first 2 guys I met was in Haines, Alaska.  You may understand
why they chose to live in Alaska. I spent a few days with them.
While waiting for the departure/boarding time of  ferry to Portland,
they taught me how to throw a 'frisbee'. We had fun. 
We enjoyed.

I also understood lyra's comments as well.  Yes.

I did not say 'to let it go' and that's that.  But to learn to find one's passion for life. (other than
'fear' based pursuits).

Anyhow, all experiences are recorded in the body and it's the body that needs
cleansing, to unleash emotional scars.
I suggested for everyone, and those from war torn lives to seek physical therapy
and I suggested  Shiatsu/Acupressure.  Why?  Touch. to be touched. To feel .
To release.  To cry.  To release.

Like I said, I met a young fellow who went to Aghanistan (I suppose that was on anothet thread.)
  He felt deep 'guilt'.
I reminded him that ALL generations have gone to war and that he wasn't the
first generation.  I asked him if he would like to have a hug.  He felt uncomfortable
afraid to be touched.  And then we HUGGED.  It was Good!

OKAY,
-M

Re: watch list

Aren't they watching everyone? And what you should really be asking is how many agents are members of the forum.

23 (edited by Bhang 2007-07-31 12:36:47)

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click, click, BOOM!

http://www.stumbleupon.com/mediumpics/1582958.jpg

Belljar knocks another out the park.  Good question. All agents please respond below:

Hyperdimensional Blogging

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Shoogie wrote:

Something strange happened to me this weekend. I was doing a search for images on google and needed to host an image on imageshack. When I pasted the file name and pressed "enter," the screen went white, which its never done before, and I heard a British woman's voice coming from my speakers!!!

She was listing numbers! Underneath her voice was a weird electronically warped lower male voice that was reading from the news...I think...it was talking about weather, hurricanes, tonardoes and other weather related anomolies.

I was so scared I shut down my computer, but now I wonder what it was! Something hacked into my computer or I hacked into something else, accidentally! My first thoughts were, I better not listen to this in case it contains a trigger code, because too many times I've found my eyes locked to the screen unable to look away when ads come on or the computer is shutting down....Anyway, it really freaked me out.

I've had something like that but it was more of a distorted voice with heavy static. I used to hear sounds that sounded a lot like talking when I was in middle school. They were scarce but enough to make me feel like I was crazy or something. =/

Re: watch list

lyra wrote:

not really quoting you just getting your attention

I was wondering if you would be able to email me? I have something I'd like to privately discuss with you, which isn't appropriate in the forum - but am unable to find a link to email you directly.

Thanks,

Matt smile

Vincit omnia Veritas: Truth conquers all.