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Hi  , Found this yesterday and thought to post it on this thread. From  http://www.astrodreamadvisor.com/free_m … dings.html

Yellow Sun is your Conscious Self - who you are and who you are becoming.

"I Am that I Am...I Am that I Am...I Am that I Am." This mantra of Yellow Sun is a meditation for accessing the I Am presence that contains great power and universal truth. Yellow Sun is the mystery unveiled, the simplicity of unconditional love and limitless bliss. Known by many names, Yellow Sun is the Solar Lord, the Mind of Light, the Center that is also your center. Yellow Sun is your solar home, the Great Central Sun.

Yellow Sun is a reminder that you are, at every moment, in the center of All That Is. In your journey of remembrance, you are crafting a light body to return to a home in the stars that you never really left. Return as a child of the sacred to the Great Central Sun! You are the crown of creation, infused with the blueprint of solar mind. You are a Godseed, the reflection of cosmic consciousness. You are love made visible!

Discover the simple secret encoded in Yellow Sun's star-glyph: you are unconditional love, the stone of indestructible liberation. Radiate that knowing in all your thoughts and actions. Love all of creation. Join the dance of light, the fundamental constant of nature, and shine forth the clarity of your true essence. There is great power in simply identifying with the light:"As above, so below." You are in God, and God is in you.

As you express unconditional love, you become more than you previously perceived yourself to be. You become illumined, the full manifestation of your divinity. In the embrace of your humanity, accept yourself and others unconditionally. Magnify your full presence. Yellow Sun will come in myriad forms to assist you. Be limitless. Accept and understand the nature of judgement, fear, light and dark within yourself and others. Love and accept yourself and others as you are, freed from previous boundaries. You are the dawning of the solar age.
As you move toward your core of light, you will find a clear-light awareness that is innately innocent. In this place, the mind is restored to it's original state of receptivity. Clarity and freedom become expressions of being, and bliss becomes the body. At this core of light, a new reality is born. From the union of the divine masculine and feminine is birthed the solar androgyny of cosmic consciousness.

Now we find ourselves in a great awakening. We have the opportunity to retrace our steps, to return to union with Original Cause. We who have deepened the illusion of seperation are now poised to retrieve what seemed to be lost forever. Through the gift of rebirth and ascension, we are reclaiming our original state of union with God. We are going home.
The process of rebirth and ascension can be viewed simply as the raising of the vibratory rate of the Earth and her children. It is embodied in the state of consciousness that knows the self as divine. The circlet, or crown, is a symbol of recognizing and knowing that divine self. So the crown as a sacred tool is a universal symbol of the completion of a circle of self-empowerment and self-authority. Full ascension is the freedom to take your physical form with you to other planes and dimensions. In preparation for the ascension, there is an opening and clearing of your light seals and chakras. If you choose to walk this path, know that in the embodiment of your "I Am" self, you will learn to accept all things unconditionally, forgiving and releasing all judgements of yourself and others. The activation of solar mind and ascension is already in progress. In divine fusion, you are becoming the one body of the ascension.

Open your heart as a flower to the Sun, and become the same love that holds universes together!

also the shadow aspects - for balance 

In the shadow of Yellow Sun, you may be unaware of or feel disconnected from your own true nature. Thus, the light of Yellow Sun reflects your shadow's potential. On this journey, you are being offered release from all past identities, lifetimes, and karma. This process retrieves any separated parts of self, restoring all potential into the union of wholeness. By facing and integrating your shadows, you can free yourself into the greater constellation of being.

The shadow of Yellow Sun also reflects your limiting views of self in relation to your concept of God. It is important to remember tha thow you see divinity is how you see yourself! If you do not see yourself as an integral part of the Divine you are functioning in th shadow of Yellow Sun.

Another shadow of Yellow Sun is conditional love, which is really part of the process of learning how to express unconditional love. Conditionality often implies fear, separation, and issues of self worth. Unconditionality expresses without judgement, limitation or expectation. Unconditional love is your original state of being, that which you naturally are.

You are the model of what it means to be fully human. In Yellow Sun's shadow are the ideals of society. Look at your personal ideals. You are being asked to release them and to embody the limitless principles of the light. As you become a model of loving acceptance, shadow and light embrace as one, and the world is lifted. You become the new myth emerging. Through the embodiment of unconditional love, one person at a time, the new world is born.

As you express unconditional love, you become more than you previously perceived yourself to be. You become illumined, the full manifestation of your divinity. In the embrace of your humanity, accept yourself and others unconditionally. Magnify your full presence. Yellow Sun will come in myriad forms to assist you. Be limitless. Accept and understand the nature of judgement, fear, light and dark within yourself and others. Love and accept yourself and others as you are, freed from previous boundaries. You are the dawning of the solar age.

Thankyou lala, 

I hadn't heard of 'Yellow Sun" before i read M5's post or anything about the 'Mayan Glyphs'.  The 'cosmic portal' affirmation sounds off to me because it sounds like an open invitation for anything to enter you.  Just maybe that is the whole point.  It might be deliberately ambiguous so that you are left open and vulnerable to... whatever.  Your description of an 'abduction' or possession experience doesn't sound much like what you might have been hoping for.   Sounds like it's better left in the past.

I guess the only way we can begin to love unconditionally is to begin to see the 'conditions' which prevent the experience of love within ourselves.  What beliefs, attitudes, states of mind and emotion, harden us against loving ourselves and others?   Probably a lot of the stuff we're already thinking about if we've taken a few steps on the spiritual path.  As each veil of the 'not- self' is parted [seen through and surrendered] the real Self can express with just a little less conditioning than before. 

The path of unconditional love involves finding the inner source of love.  In that love we are able to meet all the elements of self and separate the wheat from the chaff.  As we do this we also become less conditioned by the opposition we might meet in others and more able to act in accord with divine Will.  That is, we can progressively unconditionally love others too.

But as i wrote on the 'Wilde" thread in agreement with you lala,  i don't believe "unconditional love" means the blind tolerance and acceptance of all conditions 'as is'.  [And i gave Jesus' definition of "unconditional love" there too.]  It means more the willingness to act on the divine impulse regardless of any conditions.  [The Christ Self is not limited by any such conditions except those we still harbor and believe in.]   You could even say that we must develop  a 'divine intolerance' for limiting conditions... most especially in self.  As Catherine of Sienna wrote to a sister : "thou wilt not let a fault go without passing sentence on it"... referring to the interior work of the soul in sifting the real from the unreal in consciousness.  As the higher Self engages the soul in this process and vice- versa and as we become more willing to consciously self correct we recieve grace.  To some degree, the presence of spirit appears to our conscious awareness.

This conscious awareness of inner spirit provides a vibratory point of reference against which all elements of self can be measured in the sifting process. ie.  they can be seen for what they are vibrationally because when they arise from the subconscious they obscure the spiritual presence like a cloud obscures the sun.  While clear seeing won't guarrantee that we will never make the same mistakes,  clear seeing provides a degree of separation between the observer and the observed so that the revolving again of the same mistake is easier seen and sooner noticed than before.  If seen,  it can be dropped like a hot potato and spiritual perception re- established.  We are making progress.  That is, we are no longer spiritually blind to some subtle lower element of self which formerly seemed a real and valid part of ourself.   Hopefully, we're also maintaining a divine indifference to what we see so that we don't fall into the trap of self condemnation.

All of this inner work is "building the interior castle" as St Clare put it.  Several of the saints of the past spoke about a perfect "loathing" of the self in this process.  It shouldn't cross the line into self- condemnation but it should be a "strong aversion" to entertaining lower elements of self that we've already seen through.  I hope that's what they meant anyway although they would have made plenty of their own mistakes.  Many of them weren't perfected in that incarnation anyway and have re- incarnated since.  I sometimes fall into the trap of self condemnation too so i suppose it's a casualty of war at times. [ie. in the battle of armaggedon which outplays on all levels within and without as we engage it]

Hi M5... There's no link in M5's post above to the "Yellow Sun" quote.  I agree with almost everything in the above quote and i have read the same concepts in virtually the same terms in several other places.  It's fairly un-typical of a lot of the new age stuff in that if 'yellow sun' is the 'inner Self' as it appears to me then every word of it appears to be true.  That is unusual in itself going by what i've seen on the internet.  But if "Yellow Sun" is a new organisation i'd like to see a link to the above article to see if they can offer any more essential insights into the SELF and into HOW to just "do" all the things they suggest.  It has a lot of potential if it is more than just a pep talk.  On the other hand has it come from the same place as the affirmations which lala describes above?  If so i'd like to see what else they have to say and where else they depart from safety and truth.   It's been my observation that even the deliberately false teachings sometimes have a high degree of truth mixed in with the barbs but the barbs are usually real clangers.   Any links?

The Great Central Sun [GCS] is a concept [true i believe] that to my knowledge has been in use since the 1930s in the "I AM Activity" founded by Guy Ballard.   Apparantly the GCS is a Self conscious spiritual intelligence and is the origin of our I AM Presence [out of which we have our soul awareness].  So our Christ Self does have it's origin in the Great Central Sun.  Not only that but the I AM and Christ self is the Omega polarity and the Great Central Sun is the Alpha polarity.  We are one.  That is, each of the billions of I AM Presences and Christ Selves are individualisations of that Great central Sun. ie. Replicas of it and linked as one at the level of Spirit.  It's a beautiful concept.  We are individuals at the level of soul and Christ Selfhood but we are One and linked in vibrational harmony with the Great Central Sun.  Our divine identity is individual and immortal.

Lala, in answer to your question about specific methods for transmutation i can recommend a few things.  For about 21 years i've used prayer, a little silent meditation and much contemplation as i go about my day.  But the thing i find most effective is the spoken word in giving Violet Flame decrees and rosaries and eastern mantras and singing songs.  The spoken word, if centered in the heart, is a great power for alchemical change because it also engages the throat chakra.  If actived [by Christ] in devotion, the throat chakra, and other chakra's releases the light of the inner Christ for purification where needed. 

I think it was my first "nexus" topic posted at NR called "Science of the Spoken Word [SOUND]" that deals a little bit with this subject.  It's halfway down the  2nd page of my nexus posts [sorry i dont know how to link yet].  Apart my my own intro to the topic in that thread it's a broad topic which i'd be very happy to discuss and provide you with further links to websites.  I will say also that i have never seen a true teaching that hasn't attracted "hit pieces" against it which includes associating it with various nefarious forces.  Consequently, you will need the open mind that you have and a very high dose of discernment to make your way through the minefield which this topic presents.   Don't be surprised to find opposition against the knowledge of the greatest creative power we have for change.  There's much to say about it all lala but for now thankyou for your warm interest.

I like that M5! 

In the words of Horace Greeley, " I accept the view, unreservedly, of no man living or dead."

     What is dogma? Dogma is a Greek word.  It was originally a Greek political term, which became, through its adoption by the Christian church, a religious word, Christianly religious, having a Christian atmosphere about it and Christian meanings and consequent Christian implications, which in its original sense and usage this word dogma never had.
     The word itself comes from the Greek verb dokein, 'to seem to be,' 'to appear to be.'  A dogma, therefore, was something which appeared to be, or which seemed to be, a truth: an opinion about truth, if you like; and hence this term 'dogma' was frequently employed in certain ones of the Greek states as signifying the decision, the considered opinion, and therfore the final vote, arrived at and taken in a state council or assembly.  It was thus used as a public ordinance or decree passed by the constituted authority in the Greek state.  In Athens, however, these considered votes were called psephismata.
     'It appeared to the council,' i.e., to the gathering, to the assembly, --was the usual form in which such votes were recorded and quoted.
     From this word ecclesia we have the modern word, ecclesiastical, at present meaning churchly, with an altered meaning, however, running from and through mediaeval to modern times -- an entirely different meaning from its original sense, for Ecclesia in Greece meant a political convention or assembly of all the voting citizens of a Greek state.
     Thus this word 'dogma' changed from its original significance, meaning a vote or the considered opinion of an assembly of Greek citizens voting in formal council upon a measure brought before them; for it came, through its adoption by the Christian Church, to mean a certain religious doctrine, a certain dogmatic tenet, supposed to represent the mere opinion of the best minds in a Christian community.  Nothing more.
     Having thus this first significance in Christian history, especially in the Greek Christianity of the middle East, this word retained this significance for a number of centuries during the early part of the Christian era, and only in later and early mediaeval times did the word 'dogma' acquire the meaning which it now commonly has, as signifying a doctrine based upon the declaration of an oecumenical council or upon an authoritative popular pronouncement, or mayhap deriving from some other widely recognised churchly or religious authority; and such authority and dogmatic sense it was finally considered by faithful Christians to be pernicious and wicked even to question.
     The "E T" G de Purucker. pp 2-3