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Has anyone ever suggested that we try to create a Noble Realms dreamspace? Myself, I've only had weak success with mutual dreaming--but I've had some weirdly parallel dreams.
We could decide what the dreamspace looks like, try to go there in dreams, and then report our experiences.
Do you or anyone else here have recommendations on occult literature (books, websites) that discuss this? Maybe there are some tips and cautions that would be good to know about. I read in a Dion Fortune book about conventions held on the astral planes by occultists, that meeting up involved focusing on a specific color, shape, and context of a symbol.
Not a recommendation as such yet, but these sites look weird and interesting..
http://www.lucidcrossroads.co.uk/gettingus.htm
http://www.soultravel.nu/2003/030805-dr … _egyptian/
http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/flying/dreams.html
http://www.kheperu.org/modules.php?op=m … e7b1a6c220
I do think it would be wise to be cautious and read up thoroughly on this before embarking on the adventure.
I think Richard Bach wrote about something like this idea, but it's been so long ago that I read it, I don't remember which book. Maybe the book One. If I remember correctly, he was trying to coordinate his dreams with his wife's? And I think I read something about the people who attended Jane Robert's sessions discussed it as well. Of which, incidentally, I remember vaguely that Richard Bach wrote about attending some of the sessions. This would be the general let's get together and talk about psychic phenomenon once a week sessions. I have vague memories of reading Sue Walker (Jane's best friend?) talking about dreaming and the people in the class being part of it.
Wow, I'm amazed that's even still in my databanks!;) It's been a long time since I've even thought Jane, Richard, Sue and their experiences. Hope this helps. T.
Here's another a link:
http://members.aol.com/DreamPsi/archive … chor334583
Summation: there are (4) basic skills for mutual dreaming. (1) remembering dreams; (2) willingness to record dreams for others to read; (3) familiarity with one's own dream process and symbols; (4) willingness to share your dreamspace with other people.
And, an excerpt from http://www.dreaminglucid.com/print/printintrw.html
I also worked on other issues like mutual lucid dreaming with some excellent lucid dreamers, like Ed Kellogg and Linda Magallon. Basically, we set up a scientific protocol in which each person randomly selected a code word from a group of 100 words and a gesture from a group of 10 gestures. On a predetermined night, we were to become lucid and find the other individuals, and pass on our code word and gesture and receive their code word and gesture while taking observations about the lucid dream environment, and then wake up and send all of this to a third party "fair witness" for analysis. Here again, I feel we had some success, and learned a lot about mutual dreaming and telepathy and all. It was quite amazing actually. It also made me wonder why one doesn't hear more about experimentation with lucid dreaming.
A book with the title "Mutual Dreaming:"
http://www.amazon.com/Mutual-Dreaming-L … amp;sr=8-1
...conventions held on the astral planes by occultists, that meeting up involved focusing on a specific color, shape, and context of a symbol.
Way back in 1999, when I first got (actively) into this stuff, I belonged to an e-mail listserv on Spiritweb.org called Interdimensional. (Or something very close to that name). There were a couple of advanced lucid dreamers and projectors who set up an astral meeting spot and used a symbol for focusing on it: just the letters "I-D." Somebody had posted a .jpg of the letters in gold script, I think--everyone focused on that image to incubate the dream.
Also, I believe the people over at the Astral Dynamics forums have tried something similar and called it "Astral Island."
...I was thinking, too, they needn't be lucid dreams or projections necessarily.
It might be reasonable to say that if we all focus on the same symbol or image that there's a greater likelihood of us making genuine telepathic connections. That might be wishful thinking, though.
http://www.lucidcrossroads.co.uk/gettingus.htm
...We could just use the Lucid Crossroads as a beginning point. Since energy has been invested in that already, we could set aside a week period for Noble Realms meetings there--all incubate dreams of a NR gathering at the Lucid Crossroads. This way we bring our protection instead of worrying about making a safe space right now.
montalk wrote:
Do you or anyone else here have recommendations on occult literature (books, websites) that discuss this? Maybe there are some tips and cautions that would be good to know about
montalk, as I read the first sentence I thought of Dion Fortune, which you mention in the third sentence. Fortune was my initial entree into occultism, and I searched for many of her out of print books for a number of years. Now they are mostly in print. Her novels, especially like Moon Magic and The Sea Priestess, are actually teaching primers for occultism. She always talks about being on her "contacts" which means her etheric work mates are in her field. What they did was they built an etheric temple step by step, walked up the stone steps, across the patio, past the pool with the lotus flowers, etc., etc. They did it the same each time, whatever they intended as the place to meet in the astral. Then once there, they wrapped themselves in the same astral light so to speak. This I believe is based on astrological "tides" combined with the proper color and tone, just like all ceremonial magic. One thing, though, you, need to have a security net in place for unwanted attendees. It will attract a lot of dark feeding, so you really need to attend to that.-lala
dreamosis quoting:
Robert Waggoner wrote:
I also worked on other issues like mutual lucid dreaming with some excellent lucid dreamers, like Ed Kellogg and Linda Magallon. Basically, we set up a scientific protocol in which each person randomly selected a code word from a group of 100 words and a gesture from a group of 10 gestures. On a predetermined night, we were to become lucid and find the other individuals, and pass on our code word and gesture and receive their code word and gesture while taking observations about the lucid dream environment, and then wake up and send all of this to a third party "fair witness" for analysis. Here again, I feel we had some success, and learned a lot about mutual dreaming and telepathy and all. It was quite amazing actually. It also made me wonder why one doesn't hear more about experimentation with lucid dreaming.
This seems like how they do the random coordinate protocol for remote viewing, from what I have read about it. The scientific method for dream convocations is different than linking up with others on the astral plane, so I wonder if there is a difference in what plane people are agreeing to meet on. Occult "building the etheric temple" and ascending the planes and so forth through the Kabbalistic keys is largely dependent on active imagination, so you are going to be accessing through the mental body to a large extent. Soul travel appears to be a whole different gig, using symbols, sounds and images and so forth to tease out the etheric body and propel it into the other realms. But I'm not really sure about what the differences are technically. Someone on this forum is probably an expert in differentiating out-of-body experiences.-lala
This dream place could be the 'Rendevous' place, the great bar in the sky that Zenden set up..
Maybe an image like this in mind..
Achieving a mutual validation of dreams would be neat, but that isn't necessarily what this projects needs to be about for now. It would be just as interesting, to me, for us to all incubate a dream of the place and then compare our findings. Whether or not we actually dream of the place at the same time as others, and are able to validate it objectively, could be a secondary aim.
OH MY GOD BLUE!!! u aint gonna believe it but it DOES look something like this. the one TP and I, and many of us, have had in mind. we've talked about it for sooo long now, that it has taken on an image/look/setting VERY similar to this. and it has to be big, similar to a medieval yet techno type great room feel, and yet cozy cuz i assume many vikings and such, tired and worn traveling wandering warrior souls, universe creators, and many man-gods will show up to dream on and celebrate all they have achieved despite impossible adversity. a place where we/they can imbibe, let loose, tell tall tales, get comfortable, and be real in their story telling. i envision it very much like this, altho i had it reversed, from a left sided angle. i've actually see us there, finally, getting it on in pure restful comfort. i've seen it at a universal crossroads, road-house style, actually sort of floating in a dark royal blue-black night sky, yet stars and twinkling lights are lighting up the outside and guiding those reverberating at that energy level to it, as clean as all get out. as if ur looking for it, it trails you right there, smiling. easy to get to, bright and shiny all right to it.
since we already created it, it IS there. it does look similar, and its incredible u found this, Blue. it fits beautifully. this pic of it is very clean too, almost pristine. do u see that? it's literally waiting for us to arrive, maybe in dreamspace now, before the STAND. or showdown, or whatever. i think im gonna play around there. go early and look for u guys. save the best seats so we can belly up at that oak counter. maybe we can get Sophia to bartend, since she started this. and she's surely a guest of honor. i can't wait. we can go there in night dreamspace and meet up and laugh and sing, and TOUCH, finally. im ON it now. im going to keep this image in mind and play with it. it stays open perpetually. see U there.
I've had increased awareness within dreams lately. The mutual dreamspace could be a good experiment.
Wow, great place Blue. Spare my seat, I'll be there whenever possible 
Last night had a dream, reminiscent of a UFO convention, where we (Noble Realm'ers) were gathered. I remember "Montalk" talking about a new book or something, even signing autographs! I also remember having an epiphany in the dream about our split duality consciousness, and Micheal Tsarions work on that, but don't remember any details.
I'm remembering my dreams lately, after not really paying attention for a period of time. Still trying for Lucidity, OoBE's, and so on.
I remember "Montalk" talking about a new book or something, even signing autographs
Hmm... that reminds me, last night I dreamt about being in a room full of people discussing my book (the Fringe Knowledge one) and then giving a speech on some metaphysical concept. That's all I remember. But there was no booze or disco ball, so it probably wasn't our designated dreamspace 
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