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Many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.  I never thought it would turn into a multiple page discussion, but I'm very grateful that it has.

I can see where I was a little naive in the beginning when I came across the FTG site.  At the time I posted, I didn't know there were videos on youtube. I just saw those a couple weeks ago. I didn't know she had a snake tatoo on her arm, and I'm not sure what to think about that. As far as the crystal, well my own mother gave me one just like it, so I don't see too much harm in that.

I'm wondering if we could work this to our advantage. Not following the piper, but by doing our own thing, as many have said already. 

If a bunch of people are raising their vibrations all at one time, won't it help to raise the vibes of everyone else, who may be quagmired in their own misery?  I can't see how sitting in gratitute or meditation or positivity for one hour could possible hurt anything.  I can see how it would take a large group of people on one day and a certain time, giving all they have, to actually make a difference that we can feel.  I personally think that's what is needed.  Sure everyone does a little every day, but that little bit here and there just keeps things on an even keel.  There would have to be a huge surge, such as FTG or 777, to illicite such a change.

Many say that there needs to be no change. That the earth is just fine. That we haven't done anything to the planet.  Well, honestly, that's just BS.

Anyone can see how the planet is bulging under our weight.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that our environment is becoming harder to live in.  That's not the earth's fault; that's her inhabitants and other meddler's fault.  We HAVE contributed.  We are not blameless.

On the other hand, I do see the earth as holding her own. Maybe she doesn't need our love and healing.  But I doubt that, somehow.  Course, if it becomes too much of a burden, then she'll just bump us off, which she's doing left and right.  So there is a paradox.  Yes, the earth can support herself, but we can help, and I'm sure it would be appreciated.

Humans should be concerned about saving their asses, and if giving gratitude will help, then why not?  Why shouldn't we be worried that our home base is not happy with us?  If our ego is the only thing that will help sustain our species, then so be it.  If that's what this FTG thing really is, then whatever.

Whether the earth needs help or only humanity needs help, it matters not.  I see too many screwed up things going on to sit idly by and watch as we perish.

I will be raising my vibrations on July 17 at 7:11 (my time).  I will be thinking about everything I love and look forward to every day.  I will be showing my gratitude that day and every day. I will be the biggest beacon of love and positivity that morning.  I will help to raise the consciousness of the earth and the lower-vibed inhabitants.  And if someone's out there taking a head count and figuring out where all the positive people are, well then, fuckem.  I'm already tagged. We all are just by being awake and aware, so what makes the difference. They know me, and I know of them.  Let them watch. Let them find me.  I will not back down from anyone anymore.  I will not cower in fear that some entity or being might see me being 'lovey-dovey' with the planet.  Screw off to all of them, I say!!!!!!!

You know what the weirdest part of this is??  I have been recently told by a 'seer' that I am not even "of" this planet.  This isn't even my home base! (though I do come on a regular basis).  So it's odd to me that I seem to be more concerned about our home than the 'regular' humans--meaning the ones who always incarnate here.   What's up with that???  I don't even belong here and I feel more love for this place than most of the population.  Just weird, I tell you....

Bottom line for me:  it's all about raising our vibrations, Fire the Grid or no FTG.

Thanks for all the stimulating discourse, everyone! smile

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u realize Seeking--u cant be sick anymore.  u wont be ill anymore.  u have looked fear in it's putrid eye and SPIT.  that a girl.  ur reclaiming urself from wherever u WERE.  and ur power is back, from wherever it went.  u will hold on and i love ur spirit.  it' s been way too late to turn back now.  u have fired YOUR OWN grid.  trying to help/heal the 'mother.'  funny how these things....go.

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Seeking the Truth wrote:

Many say that there needs to be no change. That the earth is just fine. That we haven't done anything to the planet.  Well, honestly, that's just BS.

Anyone can see how the planet is bulging under our weight.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that our environment is becoming harder to live in.  That's not the earth's fault; that's her inhabitants and other meddler's fault.  We HAVE contributed.  We are not blameless.

On the other hand, I do see the earth as holding her own. Maybe she doesn't need our love and healing.  But I doubt that, somehow.  Course, if it becomes too much of a burden, then she'll just bump us off, which she's doing left and right.  So there is a paradox.  Yes, the earth can support herself, but we can help, and I'm sure it would be appreciated.

Yes, it is a paradox.  Now please don't feel like I'm beating up on you because I'm not.  smile  It's just that you've demonstrated what I said before about competing thoughts canceling each other out.


See, I don't see how the planet is bulging under our weight.  I think it boils down to the question of whether the physical universe is "friendly" or not, which leads to the question of whether the physical universe, the earth included, is designed for our use and benefit, OR in the opposite line of thought, whether humanity is an evil interloper and a bad steward who deserves collective destruction.  I happen to subscribe to the first line of thought myself.  smile


Here's a supporting link for the friendly universe question:
http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=4805


I wonder if the 'earth is dying because of humanity' meme is custom-made to replace the Adam and Eve original sin idea which is losing popularity all the time, while the dying earth replaces it as the new original sin, and all that is implied by that.


Just thinking out loud here.

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great and would suffice.  ~Robert Frost
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I had that same thought Aquarius, if the Earth itself is a collective construct, then it must have been designed to withstand tremendous amounts of abuse and poisoning, as humans seem to be able to take themselves.

This is not an excuse to do nothing, but we can only do what we can do as individuals or limited-numbered groups.
I do not have the resources, for example, to set sail for the 'garbage patch' the size of Texas. If I did have the resources, then I would consider trying to put a miniscule dent in something like that, but then we all have other personal pursuits that are totally unrelated and require time, the best we can do is stop adding to the mess that is already there.

I think that certainly applies to attitude, too, recycle the good thoughts, discard the others.......                                   J

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And forgive me, lyra, for "singling you out" and using you as an example, but your posts on your work life situation are the perfect example of this idea I've been talking about. Your situation has come up several times for me as I've been pondering this thread and the various views. (If you're offended or want this deleted, just say the word...)

Lyra works as a temp to further her life, while also serving others. And I'll even add she does this "without prejudice", in action at least. It doesn't matter what the "real" reasons temp agencies have for being in business, nor does it matter what the "real" agendas are for the companies in which she temps. These positions she takes are a vehicle she uses, one that exists for whatever reason... and she uses that vehicle according to her own intent. It serves her while she is also serving others. (I'll add here that one of the things she's done with this vehicle that supports her is write a book that she offers to others in order to perhaps help. To share what she's learned in her life with others, in case it can be of assistance to anyone else.)

And she's grateful for the opportunity, no matter why or how it came about. It's there for the taking, and she puts the spin on its value... no one else. This is a real STO status in a free will 3D zone: To understand the environment you're in and live in it in a manner that serves all by serving Self. I used the capital "S" to denote the greater self, as opposed to just the egoic personality self. It may sound odd because our view of STO is offered by those not at this level... but in a service to self zone, STO serves others by serving Self (which includes the "little self") in a way that serves the all.

(And the more one can do this without prejudice, the more one refines their true essence at this level. "Without prejudice" is a key the mind and ego tends to conveniently forget when serving itself, but when"without prejudice" is where you come from in your self service, you're working with soul. Heart. "Without prejudice" is what opens you to all possibilities, including and especially those that "dark" energies can't even see. You expand beyond the envelope of programming and move into the range of what appears as miraculous here. All manifest existence is neutral, it is the perceiver that places the value on anything. When you're able to let go of judgment of a thing and invest in it because it works for you and supports/upholds life, or leave it alone for the same reason, you're in the heart zone.)

Lyra knows the deal. She understands the situation on the planet. She also likely knows the possible intentions of many of the people she either works for or with... but these things are not what she invests in when she works. She invests in supporting herself in her life, in a way that suits her needs, in order to create what she chooses. It's activity that evokes gratitude and self-sufficiency while also not blocking, dissing or throwing a wrench in anyone else's flow or intent. Yet she's right there in the thick of it, at the same time.

Again, lyra, pardon if this is not to your liking. And if I've put words in your mouth or assumed anything in what I've said, it was not with harmful intent. And thank you for the beautiful example.

I hadn't been following this thread at all but I had a "ping" (as lipstick mystic used to put it) to look at it this morning, and not only that but to zoom in on your post.  That's happened a few times when people mention me in a thread I'm not reading, I'll get a "ping" to look, and then zoom right in where I need to look so I don't have to comb through a bunch of posts.  Basically being guided where to go I guess, I don't know.

I don't mind you using me as an example, although admittedly I think I felt a bit self conscious when I read your post this morning.  big_smile  My skin got hot, which means I'm sure my face was red.  haha   The only thing I would disagree with or correct in the above excerpt is the stuff about prejudice.  I was actually a little confused about that concept and what you meant.   For me, I do judge the temp assignments I'm given, which would be considered prejudice, and if something morally opposes who I am I can't abide by it.  Here's a good example:   My current temp job.   It's weird.  I still haven't figured this gig out yet.   As I noted in the other "Work" thread, my last temp gig folded after they merged with the Pennsylvania location, (the one that afforded me the opportunity to write my book, write content for my website and knit and crochet) and so now here I am at this current gig, working for a company that's a major player in..........the law enforcement publications industry.  (In fact there's another NR poster who works at the same company in the Bay area office.  She knows who she is and we've emailed via our company Outlook email.  So a big Hi! shout out to her!  big_smile  haha)  But anyway, this company is all about the law enforcement publications industry and works closely with cops and stuff during their research and development projects.   I myself have issues with cops.  !!  I admit it.   And when I was brought in to help with a particular project this summer it almost looked like I was going to have to be involved in the same stuff that the advertising interns were involved in......riding in cars with cops. 

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII....don'tthinkso.

When they had me sit in on the "kick off meeting" and I was listening to them go on and on about riding around with cops, and interviewing cops, and getting to know cops, I was already mentally formulating the phone call to my temp agency to explain to them why I'm quitting the assignment.   As somebody who has natural psychic "cop radar" and avoids cops like the plague, you have to be out of your f*cking mind to think I'm going to sit in the front seat of a cop car for some "ride along."  Twice in my life.........not once but TWICE.........I've been handcuffed in the back seat of a cop car for an hour and a half both times.  Never officially arrested, just cuffed with my rights read to me.  (that seems to be their standard operating procedure.....and hour and a half in the cuffs in the back of the black and white.)  And I lived with my brother who had half a room full of police scanning equipment to keep track of what the cops were up to as he ran around doing his criminal work, and who also caused the cops to come around to three different places we lived at least a dozen times total, maybe more, no exaggeration.   Pounding on the door with their batons, shining their Maglights through the windows.  The time I was alone in the apartment hiding from the cops shining their Maglights through all the windows -  sitting on the floor in the hallway trying to adjust my position to stay out of the flashlight beams, as they sounded like they were going to bust in the door all because of stuff my brother had done.   The other time I came home and there were eight cops cars surrounding our apartment building, engines still clicking because they'd only just arrived on the scene while my brother sat holed up in our locked apartment.   The time both of us were out on our patio with guns and flashlights pointed at our heads and cops repeatedly yelling at me to "KEEP YOUR HANDS ABOVE YOUR HEAD OR I'M GOING TO SHOOT."  Because of stuff my brother had done.   I wrote about that incident in "The Vortex" on my website.  So yeah, needless to say, I was literally having a mild anxiety attack at this meeting - heart racing, nerves on end, skin hot and flushed.  Riding in cars with cops.    lol:lol::lol:  That's hilarious, really, it is.   And.........IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII don'tthinkso.   

But anyway, that would be prejudice I guess.  I"m not cool with every assignment I have, and I'm still figuring  this one out.  The weird part is, I've been working at a volunteer gig for the last 6 months that involves......books for inmates.   Getting books to prisoners throughout the penal system in Virginia.  Hundreds and hundreds of letters from inmates every month requesting books of all types....that's how many people are locked away.  And then during the same time that I'm involved with that gig I'm simultaneously working at a temp gig....for a company that produces law enforcement publications, often times written by cops, for cops??   ??!  What are the odds?  Two ends of the law.   What's going on here?  There's SOMETHING going on, that's for sure.  Stuff doesn't line up like that for no good reason.  As it is, I've already "rescued" several brand new 2007 Virginia and Federal law books that were going to be tossed in the trash because they were duplicates, and re-routed them to the books for prisoners gig, for inmates who were repeatedly requesting law books and unable to get them anywhere else.  (doing this with permission from my supervisors who know about my side gig.)   So it's just weird that I've got this going on, but the point of all my rambling big_smile is that I do have prejudice.  This job makes me uncomfortable, but, I'm just rolling with it.  See where it all leads.  Anyway....I know this doesn't have ANYTHING to do with this thread, but it's 2:30 in the morning and well, you know.  wink   So I'll leave off here...................

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Thanks, lyra, for your response, and for being ok with being on display in this. This is just too funny, but...

lyra wrote:

The only thing I would disagree with or correct in the above excerpt is the stuff about prejudice.  I was actually a little confused about that concept and what you meant.

Precisely and exactly, this is what has been haunting me since I made the post. !! Not only that, but I recalled a work situation of my own (even spent the effort to retell the story to my roommate before coming here tonight, to sort of "tell on myself" about this glitch in things) where I ended up leaving for personal integrity reasons. As a result, it appears to be a form of prejudice.

However, I seem to be getting a sense that there's more to it than meets than eye, and a label of "prejudice" while one is at this level, working on their growth and feeling their way through... might be an inaccurate term for what's happening. We must discern for ourselves. To discern, one must personally assess the value of the thing as it relates to one's own integrity, standards, etc. If one can let go of taking that assessment to the level of projecting right/wrong, good/bad, etc, onto that which doesn't fit our integrity/standards... in other words, leave it alone after we make our choice for ourselves feeling no need to hold "them" in a category of "bad people/things in this world that should be... whatever"... then all we've done is discern and move on.

To my senses (as I've been moving through them since the post) there is a difference here that is less than clear, that I tried to shed light on there. I admit though that I'm not fully clear on it all either yet, but I really, really appreciate your honesty, integrity and willingness to be full out with things, lyra. So thanks.

While I was writing the post, I put "in action at least" after the "without prejudice" bit, did you see? It felt necessary. Meaning... you are working at places you might not personally want to at times, while you move through your own moral or integrity issues... but if/when you make a change, my sense - and I could be totally off here - is that you decide something isn't for you. Not that "they" are damned for eternity for not meeting your standards, but simply that you choose something else for yourself. Your reasons are important to you, but you don't need to use them to attempt to shame or change or blame "them". And there's something to that which feels important. Does that hit?

lyra wrote:

This job makes me uncomfortable, but, I'm just rolling with it.

This feels like what the "without prejudice in action" at least, means. Staying open, not jumping to conclusions based on some previously set list of reasons to reject people, things and jobs in life... but waiting to feel how things sift up or through your current Self in the situation... it doesn't feel prejudicial. It feels more open, to me. And yet also from an empowered stance of being able to choose for yourself, discern for yourself when you know it's time... without the need to condemn what you move away from. Again... could be way off.

Being able to clearly see "what is" and know it to be where you no longer "resonate" or belong (i.e., "this is not in line with who I am, to continue would be living a lie") seems almost the opposite of prejudice. To make the assessment, one would have to be open to the possibility that it is in line, or might be, or is for others, etc. Unless, I suppose, it's assessed solely by a mind with rules formed from fear and false beliefs. Dunno. I'm feeling a fine line of distinction that matters, but I'm not exactly hitting it squarely with the microscope, it seems (also quite tired as I attempt a response here). Hope it makes some sense...

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Sowelu wrote   " Luminous beings we are, not this gross matter " 

Apart from factors of control of said FTG event Sowelu's statement goes to the heart of the "dying planet" idea being debated here.

I agree with Sowelu's above quote.  But OURSELVES and this EARTH were once BOTH luminous beings.  Ourselves and Earth used to be etheric in nature,  not "gross physical" as we now know it.  The consciousness of ourselves [en masse] has fallen into duality and has become grosser and grosser.  The earth body has been made grosser and grosser by the weight of the dense karmic energy produced by ourselves.   

The Earth now has a gross physical overlay on her etheric nature just as we now do.  There is nothing "natural" about any of that except that it has happened due to our own use / misuse of NATURAL LAWS which govern the FLOW and QUALITY of energy and consciousness.

Our own fall in consciousness is the causative factor in a dense earth that gets denser as humanity's consciousness gets denser.  We ourselves [en masse] have been producing this over aeons of time.  We have fallen to such an extent that we have lost even the understanding of that CAUSAL relationship. 

In essence all things are consciousness including planet Earth.   Our love should sustain our own vibration and that of the earth but instead [en masse] we are destroying ourselves and our earth by all the deadly weight of negative energy.  The earth is at a critical stage of densification and contraction and is and will continue this [densification and contraction] if nothing remedial is done.  That remedy really does exist within ourselves.   

If were going to raise the earth we need to rise in consciousness.   I think we must think that big.  Our responsibilities on earth are greater than most people on earth realise because most people are disconnected from the higher consciousness and they now believe that such notions are sentimental and archaic.  The products of ignorance are now considered to be the height of wisdom.

But IMO this whole question, in relation to the "Fire The Grid" event cannot be divorced from our suspicions about motive by the sponsors.

The essence of the FTG day [love the Earth] is a fine idea and based on truth.  But i am also quite sure that it is inspired by the "Big Boys" for their own purposes due to all the associations with 'space brothers', NWO agendas, soul contracts and reasonably priced secret alchemical keys... etc etc.   The "schemers" always package truth in such a way as to take advantage of the "dreamers".  There is always a sting in their tail but they must entice with the honey.  They rarely directly oppose.  The wolf in sheeps clothing works a treat for them.

We should not be shy in loving oureslves, our fellows and our earth.  We all need it fairly desperately. We must do something to pull ourselves and earth out of a negative downward spiral.  So i would say that any person could participate in the purest way without 'buying into' the contracts and [in my view core] agendas of the sponsors.

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nexus wrote:

Sowelu wrote   " Luminous beings we are, not this gross matter " 

Apart from factors of control of said FTG event Sowelu's statement goes to the heart of the "dying planet" idea being debated here.

I agree with Sowelu's above quote.  But OURSELVES and this EARTH were once BOTH luminous beings.  Ourselves and Earth used to be etheric in nature,  not "gross physical" as we now know it.  The consciousness of ourselves [en masse] has fallen into duality and has become grosser and grosser.  The earth body has been made grosser and grosser by the weight of the dense karmic energy produced by ourselves.

But you actually just disagreed with what Solwelu wrote. There is no used to be, there's only NOW. Earth and Us have always been and still are luminous beings. It's just that, through the lens of our present subjective points of view, most of us are unable to perceive the layers of luminosity that surround us.

nexus wrote:

The Earth now has a gross physical overlay on her etheric nature just as we now do.  There is nothing "natural" about any of that except that it has happened due to our own use / misuse of NATURAL LAWS which govern the FLOW and QUALITY of energy and consciousness.

Our own fall in consciousness is the causative factor in a dense earth that gets denser as humanity's consciousness gets denser.  We ourselves [en masse] have been producing this over aeons of time.  We have fallen to such an extent that we have lost even the understanding of that CAUSAL relationship.

There is nothing "gross" about the Earth and humanity doesn't possess the power to cause the earth to increase in density. Earth already exists at all densities, as do humans. We explore these densities by manifesting into the dramas that are in play here at which time we filter out most other states of being. There is no "fall in consciousness" but there is exploration of consciousness. And, there is nothing better about etheric, causal, astral or whatever. All of those layers of reality are simply other points of view. They only become goals of sorts when viewed through filters within a linear timeline.

nexus wrote:

In essence all things are consciousness including planet Earth.   Our love should sustain our own vibration and that of the earth but instead [en masse] we are destroying ourselves and our earth by all the deadly weight of negative energy.  The earth is at a critical stage of densification and contraction and is and will continue this [densification and contraction] if nothing remedial is done.  That remedy really does exist within ourselves.   

If were going to raise the earth we need to rise in consciousness.   I think we must think that big.  Our responsibilities on earth are greater than most people on earth realise because most people are disconnected from the higher consciousness and they now believe that such notions are sentimental and archaic.  The products of ignorance are now considered to be the height of wisdom.

We cannot raise the earth, we are intrinsically a part of the earth, and the earth doesn't need raising. It is a living construct, of a complexity that is (AFAICT) beyond our abilities of perception (at least at this time for anyone I know of). But I think it is in many ways like us, with a macro pattern which mirrors the relatively micro patterns we're based upon. What we can do is find a balancing frequency that's harmonious with the earth. That would be a giant step towards balancing our own energy as well.
I do believe that as the principal free will critters on the planet, we have a responsibility to tend the garden so to speak, at least if we're going to be gardening, we need to garden in balance with the natural order of things here. But, I think it's wrong to blame humanity for the weight of negative energy considering how many layers of bullshit have been assembled here to keep us from seeing ourselves and our planet with clarity.

nexus wrote:

We should not be shy in loving oureslves, our fellows and our earth...

....So i would say that any person could participate in the purest way without 'buying into' the contracts and [in my view core] agendas of the sponsors.

Despite my disagreements with how you got there, I'm down with your conclusion.
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Hey Aquarius---I appreciate you conveying your thoughts.  I do see your points.  Yes I see the paradox within myself.  I find that no matter how hard I try, I can't see just one side to the story. I see both, therefore the contradiction on my part. It's not like I'm trying to be wishy-washy; rather just trying to see both sides of the coin.  I guess you could say that's a good thing since it seems to be balancing me. 

As far as the universe being friendly....I really hope so! smile


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Sowelu--thanks for your insights.  I must admit that when I saw your post about Lyra, I thought to myself, "Lyra's not even keeping track of this thread.  But I have a feeling she will now."  Very cool that I was right on both accounts! smile I had a feeling that Lyra would feel her ears burning and know right where to go. She's good like that.  I'm pretty proud to say that I'm building those skills as well. It just might take longer since I just started.


BTW, I reserve the right to change my mind at any time, concerning FTG. smile  I change my mind often, depending on the information in my brain at any given point!

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However, I seem to be getting a sense that there's more to it than meets than eye, and a label of "prejudice" while one is at this level, working on their growth and feeling their way through... might be an inaccurate term for what's happening. We must discern for ourselves. To discern, one must personally assess the value of the thing as it relates to one's own integrity, standards, etc. If one can let go of taking that assessment to the level of projecting right/wrong, good/bad, etc, onto that which doesn't fit our integrity/standards... in other words, leave it alone after we make our choice for ourselves feeling no need to hold "them" in a category of "bad people/things in this world that should be... whatever"... then all we've done is discern and move on...........While I was writing the post, I put "in action at least" after the "without prejudice" bit, did you see? It felt necessary. Meaning... you are working at places you might not personally want to at times, while you move through your own moral or integrity issues... but if/when you make a change, my sense - and I could be totally off here - is that you decide something isn't for you. Not that "they" are damned for eternity for not meeting your standards, but simply that you choose something else for yourself. Your reasons are important to you, but you don't need to use them to attempt to shame or change or blame "them". And there's something to that which feels important. Does that hit?

Yup, I think I get what you're saying.  Yeah, that would fit.  If something isn't right I just move on.  At this point in my life anyway.  In the past I would get mad and blame the company or troublesome bosses and employess for being the way they were and driving me out, and then hold a grudge about it for a time afterwards.  Not anymore though, now I'm just like, Well, it's not compatible, because it's not meant to be, and reality is trying to give me the cue to leave.   Now I recognize that neither side is "right," it just is.  It's just imcompatble.  So...go.   I also think what you're describing relates to another concept I've been talking about with a couple of people recently, the idea of people who have to make people or situations their "hit men," or fall guys.  They can't just leave a situation quietly and move on, no, they have a need to blame somebody, be a victim, create a scene.  As a friend of mine from NR put it, they create drama in order to make their departure more "real."  Because leaving without the drama somehow isn't enough, it doesn't feel real, and it might leave the door open for coming back later which they know deep down they don't want to do.  So they burn bridges and go down in flames, blaming, pointing fingers, being a victim, throwing a tantrum, or just making mountains out of molehills.  But hey...it feels real NOW dammit!!!  haha  (insert whistling sound effect of plane crashing and burning haha) 

Anyway, off topic, but just wanted to answer you on this point....

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Interesting thread.  I hadn't heard anything about FTG until a recent email from a friend who was all excited about it. 

I don't believe the Earth needs us to heal her.  The consciousness of Earth is more powerful than we can even imagine.  I have been doing energy work for years related to the earth grid, but it's not with the purpose of healing the Earth, but rather to transmute our own conflict and negativity.  That I feel is our responsibility.  And it doesn't require connecting our energy together on a specific day at a specific time.

It was mentioned on this thread that Shelley was told by these questionable beings that we sacrificed Unity for free will.   That to me is total BS.  I believe this Universe is and always has been a Free Will Universe.  (Of course that doesn't stop people from giving their power and will away out of fear and ignorance.) 

We go through cycles of Unity and Separation every thirteen thousand years.  The last Unity cycle was during the time of Atlatia, and what I intuit about that time period in no way implies that Unity meant a lack of personal free will. Quite the opposite. 

There was a connection with others which allowed a high level of telepathic communication and an understanding both of others' needs and the knowing that we are all connected as one so that what people would choose to create for themselves would automatically be in harmony with what was best for others.  But there was no 'hive' mind involved, at least not the way I understand the idea of 'hive' mind.  Instead there was great individuality and accomplishment.

So that for me is a big red flag about Fire The Grid.  Anyone who asks you to give up your own free will for the sake of unity has STS motives IMO.

Another huge red flag is this quote that was posted by FreeSpirit:

'They have suggested for your guidance and counsel that you write your inner being a letter giving that inner piece of yourself permission to connect with the grid on your behalf on July 17 at 11:11 GMT. On this earthly plane we continue to have free will and therefore we must give our inner being permission to connect on our behalf.'

No, no, no, no, no!!   You do not need to give your inner being permission to radiate love and joy.  Your Higher Self knows your intentions and the best way to manifest them.  FTG seems like something else altogether.  If you have to give some kind of special permission, then you can bet there is something more nefarious involved.

When I do intentional work related to Unity, it is always for Unity and Freedom.  I think that is extremely important.   So I for one will be 'sending out' for Unity and Freedom, (along with Peace and Harmony) and also to cancel all false contracts.

Since I have no tolerance for New Age BS any more, I haven't been able to bring myself to read that site.  Could someone please tell me about the tattoo?  I did watch about a minute of Shelley on youtube and noticed the large tattoo on her arm.  Is that the serpent you guys were talking about?   Does she encourage people to get the same tattoo?   Is that supposed to be a directive from whoever it is that she's 'channeling'?

That is another huge red flag, as I completely agree with Lipstick Mystic about tattoos and the nasties they invite.

And I love this post by Barefoot Doc and couldn't agree more:

The Fire the grid meme is well and truly anchored by the contract of belief , responsibility, faith, trust in Shelly and agreement to take part in the ritual.

This meme is "fire the grid"  which as shelly has told us is for the purpose of removing our individuality and put in place a kind of NWO etherial network grid.

You may think you are doing your own thing but i suspect by agreement in taking part in Her great meme occult ritual whether or not you feel you may be escaping any hooks by running the program through ones own filters first, you are still adding power to her meme and her ideas that you should not have individuality and putting in place a thoughtform grid.  Its her spell
I have long suspected that you have to be told the real score, by reading the small print, though they usually glossed over by the ego. The real purpose of the ritual is revealed subtlety in the words and it needs your permission to agree to it, if you sign a contract without reading the small print it still holds.

Oh but the ego thinks but i can still do good here, i will add my bit into the mass ritual but focus on good things , they dont know how magic and occult rituals work on an energetic level or they would run a mile, they dont know they are still adding power to the memes ritualistic workings.

Dont tell the people with no sophistry, memes, add ons, to live in harmony with earth as part of life, reduce it all down to one day in the year on a power date and time for the maximum power boost to the ritual of meme instead. They get us to create the reality they want and we keep falling for it.

I can't believe she has explicitly said that the purpose is to remove our individuality and put into place the NWO.  And people just go along with this crap?

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Seeking the Truth - I respect your decision and your reasons for participating - or not - whatever it may be. Power to You.,

I hope you don't mind if I provide a further link which I found interesting. It is Peggy Kane and her take on ftg. I am not sure what people here on NR make of Peggy and her reverse speaking. I find a lot of it quite loopy myself and she has been wrong in the past (or just not accurate about the dates of her predicted events).
Whether you believe in what she says or hears or not, I think this is still an interesting perspective as Peggy has been going on for a while now about the firing or setting fire to the net (not previously related to this event.)

I feel so many people are relating a negative reaction with this event to having a lack of spiritual depth and understanding of the bigger picture, not to mention an uncaring attitude to our beautiful planet. May I remind you that at this present stage in our time constructs, we are still experiencing everything through the veil of forgetfulness (whether self imposed or not) with very clouded judgement no matter how much we might protest. No matter how far we have travelled that spiritual path in this fleshy vehicle (a microcosmic moment really), we are still unable to see most of this for what it really is - if that was not the case then we wouldn't be in the pickle we are now. If we choose to look at everything from our higher perspective and base judgements on love and caring for our fellow brothers and sisters, and fail to recognise the duality and hidden elements to it all, then all events like live aid, live 8 and live earth could also potentially have/had healing benefits for the intended through mass good intent. Things don't work quite like that it seems (or is that just my foolish illusion), so I will stick to the gentle nudges I get from my higher self now and then and stick to my path.

I believe that the rationalising of earthly illusions through the use of spiritual concepts and the deft manipulation of emotional language is a very dangerous thing as we are falling into the religious trap of aeons and confusing dysfunctional dna limited thought processes with what we think our higher self is thinking - the very self that doesn't have to use emotive adjectives to make a point. It just is.
Just my thoughts, so every possibilty of being flawed.

One more little thing as an aside to this - Every time I have been reading this thread and have made a post myself - including this time (twice in one hour)- I have had an unpleasant ringing in my left ear for about 20 seconds or so and I know what that supposedly means.
Not that I am of any importance in these matters of course, but the fact remains that it happens at very interesting and specific moments.

Link to Peggy Kane's reversals - http://www.evpreversespeaking.com/2007/ … ur-prison/

Thanks for starting the post S.t.Truth and my Best to You.

FS.

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Short excerpt from : The Mayan Code - Barbara Hand Clow

             If Calleman is right about the time acceleration, the Galactic Underworld is a thirteen- year- long reversal of  5,125 years of evolutionary patterns that have caused humans to believe that the solid or material world is all there is. But that is just a faulty mindset. Everything that exists comes first from consciousness, since the material world emanates from creative intentions; thus, consciousness drives evolution. Reality, as it exists now, is the natural result of how we've been thinking for five thousand years, and as soon as we change the way we think, material reality will follow.

             As i write, East - West tension is tearing the world apart, yet it all would be different if people just changed the way they think. Actually things are changing, but the catch-22 is that you can't see this ongoing transmutation unless your eyes are wide open to the possibility of miracles. We are recovering  the kind of sight we had thousands of years ago, which will enable us to transcend destructive differences between people. The heart is the key to personal survival, and potent electromagnetic waves of the heart are moving into planetary resonance; soon we will be carried away by very intense feelings for Earth. 

             Calleman comments, "There is hope for humanity, not because we will all suddenly choose to change for the better, but because the consciousness of humanity is subject to a cosmic plan that cannot be manipulated."  During the last year, I've been watching people wake up to the fact that there actually is an unfolding divine plan that is delineated by the Mayan Calendar. Many people are remembering that humans were chosen to be co-creators with divine intelligence, even if they've never heard of the Mayan Calendar. This is not an arrogant or egotistical understanding of our earthly roles. Instead, seeing that we are meant to play this role demands that we take radical responsibility for our home and our place in the universe. What could that be ?To answer this, we each must fall in love with Earth and her creations again; we are meant to be keepers of life, not masters of death.

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You, on the other hand, are knowingly and willfully ignoring and minimizing the core concept behind the FTG movement - that core concept being that "the planet is dying" - and instead reacting to your own fantasy of what such a movement COULD mean.

And that's the point. Astute observation and correct. Well, almost. I'm not ignoring anything. I'm consciously choosing to disregard what I know to be far less important or significant when compared to my own intent and will, which is aligned with my heart. And then act upon what I know, with awareness and responsibility. There is no "reaction" here, but rather an ability to respond to a potential.

When you choose to watch a scary movie, do you believe it has the power to actually harm you in any true sense? Or do you understand what it is, how much weight it actually carries in your consciousness, and that the directional intent of said movie, for you, is entertainment and/or fun... rather than actual fright or harm? No matter how scary the creators of the film tried to make it, don't you determine its impact on you?

In this sense we have the ability to "put things in their proper place" in our lives. We must do this, no one else can determine this for us (though lacking this facility of self, some people really do get terribly frightened by scary movies and avoid them like the plague). And even if you, like me, don't actually watch scary movies, is it also because you've done this assessing and proper place putting? This is the idea. Another's intent is a factor, sure, but where is it's proper place when confronted with your intent? The more one knows oneself, the easier it gets to make these determinations.

To use a less "man-made force" analogy: fire is a dangerous force of nature. I could get burned if I get too close to it or stick my hand in it or allow it to run wild in my environment. Understood. But does this mean I shouldn't use my stove? Do I cower to the potential intent of this dangerous force? It wants to consume everything in its path, always! Do I just stay away from it or refuse to let it have play at all in my life?

Or do I align myself with my power center, my awareness and my creative flow to consciously direct that force in a constructive manner, one of my own choosing? One that can certainly serve me in a beneficial manner, and possibly many others as well?

If I never worked with fire before, I can understand the possibility that I would shy away from it, yes. I might prefer to have others who are more adept at playing with fire cook my meals or make my ceramic dishes or warm my room or create beautiful glass objects d'art. Sure. But I know fire, intimately. I'm familiar with how it moves and why. And I also know who I am. The potential danger or intent of "that other force" is no match for me. (Or you, for that matter.)

This stance is not arrogance and does not come from ignorance, however. One must have experience with the force in question, and have gained "knowledge that empowers" from those experiences (heart-based awareness), in order to respond with ability. Many here have that experience and that type of knowledge, but are in the habit of using it to lay low or side-step known factors of this level of life. The point is that it's time for some to begin to apply that hard-earned knowledge in new ways.

What did we think we were "growing our awareness" and "shifting to the higher emotional center" (heart) for? smile The dualistic nature of the mind will keep one stale-mated (as you said, canceling out effective action). This is why the path is through the heart and we've been working so hard to grow our awareness and shift to the higher emotional center.

The "intent with a dangerous potential" that many have noted already is one that stems from that dualistic, limited nature. That's not the source of our real power. By living in a state of placating that dualistic level of life/ourselves/ideas by making it the reigning power to dictate our action in our lives, we stale-mate our potential.

We don't have to do that, however. We have another option. A third option. The heart. It is the center within our field from which we expand beyond the limited potentials of the dualistic, mind-based creating nature of this paradigm. The awareness and power potential there is unlimited. Acting from it is always beneficial to the whole, and it's the place from which real change under the sun is possible.

This is what I'm saying.

"The most important decision you have to make is whether you live in a hostile or friendly universe."
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The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes. ~Marcel Proust

The evolution of humanity is an evolution of the heart. The path is through the heart.