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AwakeKiwi wrote:

in the near future we will be able to see these energy fields and therefore spot an OP easily, what ya recon?

I've never been able to see energy fields myself but I think you're on target with this.  I think eventually we can all reach this stage and be able to detect these fields.   I know there are many people out there who I've suspected of being portals myself, but I'm extremely hesistant to label anyone.. I think it's too dangerous and not necessary.  Someone's actions are more important than having a fix on whether or not they fall into this category.  A "souled person" who is lulled into a matrix-sleep is no better off than an OP anyway, but if you can't tell the difference, you offer both the benefit of the doubt and act in a spirit of love regardless.

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i can see energy fields at night, for the last 10 years it has very gradularly gotten stronger, basically in semi darkness or complete darkness and sometimes in normal daylight i see what looks like heat waves, u kno...shimmering off of myself or other objects like my cat... its not like normal heat waves tho, which rise... these ones go in all directions away from the source... i used to think it was a trick of my eyes... like i was just seeing the effect of liquid moving about on the surface of the eyeball, as that was kinda what it appeared to be... but then i read somewhere that the most pronounced energy streams come from the tips of your fingers... then i was able to prove to myself that it was energy by this following exercise which i think anyone can learn to do with practice... lie in bed in near or total darkness... hold your right hand up with fingers spread out... hold your focus slightly towards the leaft of your vision at a spot on the wall or just in the space in front of you.. then twist your right hand about and up and down and observe the space to the left of your hand where your fingers are pointing, try not to move your vision at all so as not to create any movement with the eyeballs and see if you can notice bands of energy moving up in down in time with your hand movement.. the more you focus on this movement the easier it becomes to see it untill you can then look directly at your finger tips and see the lines of energy streaming from your fingers... its really cool once you start to see it clearly, seems to work well at full moons...

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Some have said that deja-vus were often a sign of timeline manipulations (as it is portayed in the Matrix movie). Well I had the strongest deja-vu of my life a few days ago. When I saw it I *knew* it was something important. It made me stop breathing. I thought it was related to something I had just lived (which was quite important) but in fact it is what followed which turned out to be really, really important (for me), and which confirmed the impression of this deja-vu.

Anyway, I didn't have the feeling it was a manipulation from STS forces at all (it wouldn't make any sense). I did, however, strongly feel that it was a moment which had already been somewhat planned (maybe by me before this incarnation) and now I was just remembering it by living it. I was remembering a breath-taking exciting moment of a dream, and this dream was in fact my life smile It gave me a really strong feeling of being at the right place at the right time, of connecting the dots, which is all what I've been doing these past days.

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Well done!

20 (edited by Stephen M 2004-09-17 01:58:04)

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As a teenager I recieved a series of repetitive dreams that were so vivid that they stood out to me enough to remember them when I awoke. These would occur three of four nights in succession which would make them stand out even more. The content of the dreams would vary from a very mundane experience such as walking down the street from my house to buy a soda at the local store to very intense experience such as an encounter with what I would later come to regard as a reptillian.

Months later I would find myself reliving the dream(s) in real life. It was the most intense feeling of deja-vus I had ever felt as the scenarios lasted for five to ten minutes and while it was happening to me I was also remembering the dream and could predict exactly what was to happen next. These experiences shook me to the core and I had nowhere to turn for an explanation but I knew one thing for sure, there is a lot more out there (or in here, whatever) than what I was being told and I had proof, at least to myself. I now look back at these experiences and am thankful for them as they provided a quick education, a wink of the gods, so to speak.

Stephen

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grats to all here for the cool experiences.

i would like to resonate with AwakeKiwi's comment about seeing energy fields.

I can see them too. and yes, at first i also believed it was my eyes (or mind) playing tricks on me... but not anymore.

i would like to share probably the most incredible experience related to things like this.

its a long story which ive written before so i shall just paste my story here. hope there arent any inconsitencies (regarding the audience);

one night, about maybe 3 [edit- 5/6 months now] months ago, i was just in my room, on the comp, when i began feeling a strange feeling. i didnt really give it much thought, because i get strange feelings sometimes- but i did notice it was unusually strange feeling. anyways, i looked around my room in paranoia but of course nothing there-

i then decided to get into bed and try and go to sleep. for some reason my eyes focuses on a Lamp that was on in my room (yea i usually sleep with a light on haha) Now, i kept staring at the light bulb, bright as ever- and i didnt blink. you know when you look at a light bulb or bright light and squint your eyes, the light beams kind of bend and move and shoot out all crazy? (i know someone knows what im talking about) well- as i was staring at the light, its beams began bending, but i didnt think i was squinting my eyes. The beams Bend more and more intense and i was watching it with intrigue (i like hallucinations :m: ) and for about, i'd say 1 minute maybe 2- the Beams danced and shifted all around while my room and everything else began to blur...

THEN, all of a sudden- the beams STOPPED, like they FROZE in their position. my eyes felt very very strange, as if the pupils were super dialated or something. Right when this happened its like evrything froze- and right there, where i was staring (inside the still light beams) i saw the most amazing thing:
i saw (what i thought were) ATOMs or ELECTRONs, swirling around in the most magnificent ways imagineable. i saw electrons on their paths, the so-called energy circle or whatever, i saw some electrons would swirl around one, then zoom on to another one and swirl around it. This was very amusing and i stared in awe.

then something happened. a shift from amusing to scary.

after a few minutes i made myself snap out of the stare because it was kind of scaring me, my eyes locked and all that. but something was strange, as i lay there in bed, i felt my breathing becoming very deep, and more proloned. my breaths got very long and spaced in between, and i began feeling worried. the breathing got slower and slower and i remember wondering "why is this happening? why cant i breathe right?" but it continued to slow down. my body began feeling unusual around this time now. I felt my HEART BEATING SLOWER ALSO NOW, sort of following the breathing. The breathing got SO SLOW that after gasping a few times, it COMPLETELY STOPPED. i swear, my air stopped COMPLETELY, and i could not breathe, or even GASP for air. I was terrified at this point, and this is when i tried to move my arm up to my neck and i had no control of my body. I layed there, and all i could do was listen to my heart beat- and it was beating very irregular. The beats started getting slower, just like the breathing- more spaced between beats and more deeper, lower-pitched beating. at this point (after my breath stopped) my head had a sort of dizzy feeling accompanied by my bodies EXTRA_HEAVY feeling. felt like gravity got 100x stronger and was pulling me into my bed.

OK- this is the scary part. My heart's beating got so slow that it too also STOPPED. i rememebr this clearly- i was very worried because my heart was beating slower and slower- And i felt that last beat, and when i didnt hear another one, i got scared. i felt like gasping but could not even move, i felt my body was worried also, in a alarmed state. but i could not do anything. i lay there hopelessly and for some reason i heard the song that was playing on my computer- it was a song that said somethin about DYING/LIVING. and i remember thinking to myself finally:
"omygod, this is it, i am dying, and this is how it ends."
i closed my eyes and didnt try to fight it. as i closed my eyes i felt like a ringing noise getting closer and closer, much like when your in a dizzy state or wake up from a blackout/faint. this feeling crept on me, and at one point, i felt it took over. BOOM. i was out. comepletely black,no sound, nothing. i thought i was dying, so i thought i had died somehow.
<-----time lapse here------->
im unable to say how long i was out, but it seemed that not even 5 minutes after the blackout, I JUMPED UP AND GASPED FOR AIR! it was like i was drowning, and i just got out of the water, i was gasping for a few moments, but i felt wierd. i felt like someone was near me, something. I dont know why i think this, but i also vision it. i felt this vision a SPLIT second before i had woke up gasping for air.
I saw a lady , who seemed angelic, come down and ever-so gently kiss me.
i have a feeling that someone came down and lifted me from this crazy spell, if it wasnt death.

checking the times, i noticed that close to half an hour had past since the last time i check, when i myself felt like 5 or 10 minutes had passed. im not sure of all this but i wanted to spill it out to someone in hopes of finding out more. i tried telling the story to friends but they either got scared or dont really think much of it. one friend said that he theorizes that perhaps i "fainted" while laying down, what do you all think ?

---end paste

notes:
-this happened before i had tried or done any meditation sessions.

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

22 (edited by wandering1 2004-09-17 18:36:03)

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Oh, man.  I see many possibilities here.  These are really just spontaneous responses so if they don't resonate with you then feel free to discard any and all of them.

I think that it's clear that you had an "out of the ordinary experience."  I think that such experiences may be easier to understand if there is a related cause.

For example, a person might almost get hit by a car and "see their whole life flash before their eyes" or a person may engage in deep meditationand have profound realizations, or a person may ingest a substance.

In this case, the effect seems far out of proportion to the explicit lead in, which I understand to be looking into a light.

Breathing and the heart have automatic systems to keep them going so to perceive them to stop without an obvious cause is puzzling.

One thing that comes to mind is related to something that I think is in "Bringers of the Dawn."  According to this model, the instreaming energies are increasing and at times our bodies will adjust naturally or possibly with outside help to the higher frequencies.  I imagine that when this ususally happens we are asleep.  Our heart rate and breathing may slow down naturally during this process.  I think that usually we are asleep and unaware when this is happening. 

What is unusual in this case is that you were awake and aware.

Another major possibility that I think of is I have heard that abductions scenarios may include paralysis of the body.  Perhaps an abduction was beginning, the first stages began, but because you were aware, you resisted it, and then eventually fought it off, possibly with help from the outside.

Still another possibility is that you had an incredibly real dream.  However, the way that you describe it makes me feel that it was not "just a dream".

Or you might imagine what a medical doctor might have to say about the situation.  Let's just imagine a MD that is particularly open-minded.  That person might ask aobut past personal history with heart and breathing and muscle issues.  That person might ask about family history.  I'm sure they would want to run tests.  Your body might check out 100% fine and then that person could say it was a matter of perception or even an unexplained anomaly.

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Somehow this also makes me think of the scene in the Matrix where Neo puts his hand in the mirror and it works its way up his arm, and just as it looks as if he will pass out, he's sucked into the teaching program. In this case he was awake, too, and couldn't believe what was happening to him. But in your case the whole thing was stopped before you got sucked in, metaphorically speaking, and I've a feeling it was not a helpful teaching program that was in the works.

The other thing that comes to mind is that children and others have gone into siezures when watching certain television shows, and apparently it's the strobe effect that does this, the pulsations of the light affect the brain.

Now, could it be possible that not only were the atoms of your body slowed down, and all processes related to it, but also the entire 3D cube of space and light around you, such that as the light waves began to change their pace in this process, it put you into some kind of siezure in order to prepare you for "assimilation?"

Well, you would not be, and were not to be, assimilated, thank you very much.

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all i can say is that my eyes are really really sensitive to light.
i have a bit of trouble driving at night time, cuz headlights seem to blur huge streaks across my vision.

do u guys think that something or someone was trying to do something to me, but was unsuccesful ? or did someone else intervene?

i swear i saw, or more accurately "felt" an angelic female presence SPLIT SECOND before i "woke up" gasping for air.

plus, before it all happened, i felt like someone was watching me. i mean, i felt that strong feeling of being watched, not just a normal overlooking feeling.

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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I think that there is a possibility that someone or something was trying to do something to you and that effort was unsuccessful due to intervention by a presence that appears to be benevolent.

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Me,too. Intervention by STO forces.

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I have read all the posts in this thread , the deja vu experiences, memory changes, time line manipulations encounters with Op's and Zonabi's experience with the breathless state. These are all normal  experiences that a human can have, and I have had my share of these kinds of experiences. Before I started meditating i would pick up all sorts of strange experiences, the human body is very much like an antenna, we pick up a lot of different thought signals coming in from everywhere. It's when we choose to listen to a thought signal that gets us mixed up. All of us have E.S.P. and every thought that you ever think goes out into the universe. You receive these thoughts back as well. Think of the entire planet as one big collective mind. Any experience that you have ever had has also been most likely experienced by someone else at some point or another on the planet. With all due respect some of these experiences may be genuine experiences and I know that they seem very real as they are happening,the key item is THOUGHT CREATES it may be your thought, someone else's thought,  the earth itself has a memory imprinted on every molecule of everything on the planet, places and things carry their own thoughts and memories. We pick up all this stuff with our antennae like minds,then our mind plays a little trick on us, this is your thought what can you do with it? Ignore it don't let it grow out of proportion, don't let it take you over. This is a freewill planet you can choose which experiences that you want to have, and leave out whatever you don't want to have. You have those choices available at all times. Imagine that there are no clocks, time does not exist, everything is happening simultaneously, past , present  and future are all happening NOW! This is reality as time is just a small concept that falls away when you start to meditate. Be kind to the OP"s they are here to teach us valuable lessons of giving and compassion, Their interest may only be some kind of material things that they need to succeed. If you are being spiritually attacked ask for help immediately, ask the creator to help you, help will be given immediately. The creator has so much to offer us all we need is to sincerely ask. Anyone that is part of this forum has many spiritual tools that they can look up and find answers to most questions. For Zonabi: You have been graced with a wonderful experience. have no fear as you have  a great spirit guide who has shown you the breathless state aka Nirvanna, Samahdi, this is the experience that all of the Masters and Guru's aspire to thru meditation. This is a sign that you need to incorporate meditation as part of your daily regeiment. The human body can live without breath and without a heartbeat,as we are luminous beings,we are just an assemblage of divine light fibers ever moving ever changing. Ask your guide for help she will guide you. Another thing about the breathless state, you become Omniscient , Omnipresent and Omnipotent you can levitate, your will becomes a law of the universe,(as long as you don't impose on anyones freewill) Heres the real deal anyone can achieve the breathless state. The Key to all of creation is thru your breath in constant meditation. I have been in the breathless state many times there is nothing to fear you are not going to die. This is such a great gift, all of the light in all of creation  connects with you and you can see everything that is happening  simultaneously past present and future all rolled into one. You can't think in the breathless state as you would normally because the view of  infinity automatically stops the internal dialogue. You merge with everything and everything becomes a part of you. How would you like to have this experience? Everyone can just ask. you will reach it when you are ready to. Freewill Love and Light Meditatek

Our breath is the essence of who we really are, as we become in tune with our breath, this breath becomes the vehicle, which  transfoms us and takes us to that beautiful place within inside ourselves, an open door to all densities.  Meditatek

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meditatek,

Thanks for posting!  Nice to have you in the forum!

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thanks for the nice words, i feel a sense of relief from reading that.

you have a great energy vibe meditatek!

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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You are most welcome Zonabi, we are looking for much more than to feel a sense of relief,as the relief will only be a temporary fix.  The Creator has already given us all the neccessary tools from which we can choose to use and transfom our existence and experience, We need to look no farther than within ourselves, to become one with our true higher self is pure concentration on pure energy our lifes breath.
Freewill Love and Light Meditatek

Our breath is the essence of who we really are, as we become in tune with our breath, this breath becomes the vehicle, which  transfoms us and takes us to that beautiful place within inside ourselves, an open door to all densities.  Meditatek