Mind Controlled Celebrities (Page 3 of 18)

I've read others with the same obversation you just mentioned, how she seems to be completely lacking in any sort of social skills and cannot function in an unscripted situation.     To cite a recent (crude) example of this, recently Britney was interviewed impromptu on the spot by some reporter outside some event, asking her some goofy random questions, one of which was "What was the last thing that was in your mouth?"   Britney giggled and said, "A dildo!" much to the shock of the interviewer who was speechless.    One of Britney's "handlers" who'd been hovering around on the sidelines grabbed her arm and yanked her away.

This is a 22 year old woman acting like a 12 year old ditz, and being yanked around and controlled by some mystery handler on the side.    Does she even have a say in her life?   No, doesn't seem like it.  It's disturbing, because like Sedna mentioned, sooooo many people idolize her, moms are buying her CD's for their little girls, and these same girls in turn are emulating her every move, every outfit....memorizing the lyrics to her music.    It's just bizarre.    Pop music stars nowadays are mini porn stars.  Everything is so hard and abrasive now, so in your face, like a gutted animal with everything spilled out all over.   No subtley AT all.    But this is the Illuminati agenda.  Destroy morality, destroy the family.   And the biggest avenue to accomplish this is through media and entertainment.   We watch movies and t.v. shows and listen to music, over and over again.   We program ourselves with it.   All they have to do is create it and then we give them our money for it, make them mega rich, and turn ourselves into their desired end result.

Considering we live in a STS world of manipulations and appearances, wouldn't it make sense that all those who are in "front of the scene" (as much as for spirituality and politics than for entertainement) are allowed and thus in a way "under control"? Would the media moguls "allow" those who are not 100% "safe"?

Well here's a weird synch, Sedna:  Last night we rented the original "Stepford Wives" from 1974 because we'd never seen it before and it was on our "to watch" list.  As everybody knows, this is a movie about wives being replaced by perfect robotoids.  In the special features section they had interviews with the director and the lead actresses / actors.   Well, the director mentioned that for the lead role he originally envisioned Jean Seberg, an actress I'd never heard of, and said that not too long after he had considered her she wound up committing suicide, so it wasn't meant to be.   Then I get on here and see you mentioning robotoids and Jean Seberg within the same paragraph.......!      Like I said, until last night I'd never heard of her, now I've come across her name twice within 24 hours.   Very weird.

Wow, Lyra, that is an incredible sync. I have an article from a website I'll get later and post. It's particulary chilling that the movie was the Stepford Wives.

Stephen, since you're in the music biz, you ought to know! (about some things that go on.) Not for gossip's sake, not naming names, it would be interesting to hear more about it and any other connections to this phenomenon you can come up with.

Too bad about Bowie. Maybe he was tired or something? Because when I've watched him he's either raised consciousness or questioned things in an enlightening way.

Is it just me, or is there a particularly loud series of bubble-burstings and bitter truths lately? Or am I just responding in a Pavlovian manner to business-as-usual?

I cannot say that I've had for sure that I've had direct experience with anyone that was under the influence of mind control. I've met and know some that could be considered famous and are crazy or odd in their own way but that kinda goes with the territory, so unless you are very close, it would be hard to tell. Though most of it seems to occur in the upper echelons of the business (which I haven't dealt with much) where celebrities can influence the public, there also seems to be another level where people are used as pawns in the game.

Here's a couple of experiences:

I played in a band that had a booking agent that was somewhat of a shady character who I suspect of being a player at some level. The circuit that we played consisted of a lot of military bases, some nightclubs, and some work in Las Vegas. He also managed some mid level country acts and owned much of a small town in Arkansas. In his office he had a red phone that he claimed was a direct line to the whitehouse and in general seemed to possess a lot of money and power that was not explained by what he did on the cover.
He once offered a very lucrative job to a member the band which consisted of paying housecalls to people who owed him money. The band member was a black man who could produce a very convincing and scary scowl on his face (in actuallity he was a pretty nice guy)which the agent admired. The job consisted of constantly being on call to to make these visits to collect money in which he might be required to fly anywhere in the country perhaps once a week or so. When he turned down the job, out of nowhere the agent's very veloptuous wife began making all kinds of advances towards him. We later viewed this as a tactic to get him further entangled into their web, perhaps setting up a situation where they would have been caught and then he would have been indebted. I'm reminded of Cathy O'briens story (Trance-formation of America) and of one of her handlers being involved in country music and the same type of artists as this guy dealt with.

I also had a friend who played with a well known major label soul/funk act that frequently toured Europe. They carried with them a huge backline of fake Marshall amplifiers that were dummies and produced no sound, just for looks he thought until he noticed some of the road crew filling them up with many bags of white powder just in time for the flight home. He was a friend that warned me of illuminati type influences in the music business and elsewhere, I thought he was paranoid at the time. He died of a severe lung infection and told me before he died he thought someone had infected him purposely. I thought he was delerious but knowing what I do now, I wonder.

Yes, he has actually taken his name, image, music, lyrics and made it into a publicly traded corporation that you can buy stock in if you wish. -One of the first 'Rock Stars' to do so.

Sometimes I think it's more fun to be ignorant. What's next, Mickey Mouse turning out to be the devil? Oh yeah, we already covered that.

Stephen

Blackmail is possibly a factor in celebrity involvement in Scientology.

During Scientology counseling sessions (auditing) detailed records are kept of what the client says.  It has been documented numerous times that "church" management authorized going through these folders to find dirt that could be used to blackmail current or former members.

I was a staff member with scientology from 1976-79.  After the experience I realized that I was a Scientology robot for much of that time.  A few comments on how that is accomplished -

As a staff member, we were required to have daily study time in which we read Hubbard's policy letters and listened to his tapes.  You didn't just casually read the stuff.  You were quizzed on it, required to do drills, required to look up any word you did not understand. 

Staff members were only allowed to make decisions based explicitly on Hubbard's policies.  Deviation was not allowed.  Those who continued to deviate were punished – sometimes required to do extra work and write up a confessional.  Persistent cases sometimes resulted in being put in a demeaning group – the rehabilitation project force.

Previously learned values and education were demeaned if they conflicted with Hubbard quotations in his policy letters.

I was in a hard-core group (Sea organization).  The stringent obedience standards did not apply equally to all scientology groups.

Hubbard had studied hypnosis and brainwashing techniques.

As far as the auditing, from my experience, if it is done well it can result in a lot of insights on one's life and produce feelings of bliss or an emotional high – can be kind of addicting.

Maybe this isn’t the right thread to go into too much detail, but here’s an outline of my activities as a scientology staff member.

I worked at the scientology Hollywood complex for 3 years in the 1970s, which occupies more than a full city block.  It was previously a large hospital.  I was there during the period of purchasing, renovating and moving into the facilities. 

Free room and board for staff members (substandard dorms mostly in those years, food sometimes was good but occasionally a subsistence type diet – beans, rice, powdered milk).

My initial pay as a trainee staff member was $5 per week for part-time work and part-time study.  My pay was increased to $17 per week by the time I left 3 years later.  For comparison, Hubbard was charging the public $50-$100 per hour for counseling sessions at his "churches" during that period.

Hubbard’s church was legally allowed to pay people only $5 per week by registering the Sea organization as a religious order, not a business.  He was able to obtain a religious tax exemption from the IRS. 

The work schedule was typically 6 days a week.  No holidays. 

Members were allowed one full day off per week IF your personal production statistics were up and the church group you belonged to also had its stats up. (half day off per week if your production stats were not up)

I did a lot of cleaning and building renovations.  Why pay union wages when you can get slaves to do your work for pennies?

After the basic training phase I worked in their day care facility taking care of children of other church members. 

I do not know if their current procedures are similar to what I experienced.

There have been many efforts to use variations of Hubbard's procedures.  For example, Stephanie Relfe, in deprogramming her husband Michael from government and alien mind control, used variations of dianetics and scientology auditing techniques.  She uses a variation of the scientology e-meter (a sophisticated lie detector).  Explained in The Mars Records
[url= http://www.themarsrecords.com/[/url]Two well researched books on Hubbard and his church/business:

Bare-Faced Messiah,  Russell Miller
A Piece of Blue Sky, Jon Atack

Ooooooooh.....I admit it.............I have just been devouring the "TomKat" story, I mean, I can't get enough of it, seriously.  !  I joked about it over on another thread, how it was all over the news in lieu of real news of actual substance, but at the same time, I can't tear myself away.  Why?  Because:  Tom Cruise acting out of character - jumping on Oprah's couch;  Then reading that Katie was "very interested" in Scientology and was thinking of converting....the first thing I thought was "MIND CONTROL!!!  WOOHOO!  YEAH!!  CAN IT BE MORE OBVIOUS!"      I wanted to post something about it but I was afraid "what people would think."   But since you went ahead and did the honors wandering1, I am now free to admit my fascination with this story!   And I do not care if I am labeled shallow for it!   haha  It's food for the Proles, and I devour it up.  It's terrible, I tell you.   hehe

Another detail which isn't in the article is the way KH is now flanked by Tom's sis and other Scientology puppetheads wherever she goes.   In many of the pics you'll see Katie....and Tom's sis.  As if the sister is "hovering", always right there, to speak on Katie's behalf or else confer with her before she speaks.  Tom Cruise recently fired his longtime publicist of 14 years - over Scientology - and hired the sis as the replacement.  And so what we're seeing now is the "New Tom Cruise", who is now "allowed" to talk freely....and abundantly....about Scientology, to the point of coming across like a maniacal programmed robot gone awry, due to the change in publicity agents. 

Then there's what Katie and Tom have to say about each other.   If anybody has been following this, you'll know what I'm talking about.   The enthusiastic scripted sounding responses which smack of programming commands.   It's like they were both sat in a darkened room, in a drugged state with headphones on their ears that hypnotically told them, over and over, "Something magnificent has happened!"  "She is an amazing woman!"  "He is magnificent!"   Over and over and over...because that's what we keep hearing them say....over and over and over.   People have joked that they need to "get a thesaurus."   But I think people are missing the blatent signs of programming commands. 

Tom Cruise believes that people are "interested" and "fascinated" with Scientology, but I think if anything, this whole debacle will serve to turn the public away from it, casting it in a very suspicious, negative light.   

Anyway, this entire story is just nuts, and endlessly fascinating as well.  I feel like we're literally watching mind control in action, watching celebrities having a programming melt down.  I'm just left wondering "What in the hell did 'they' DO to these two people?!?!?"

{And I know, I know, I already KNOW that somebody is going to come on here, sounding cautiously naive, saying "Well, maybe they really are in love.  Maybe it's two people who have found each other and it clicked, maybe we just are cynical and pessimistic, I wish them the best...."  or whatever nonsense.    Let me tell you now...I don't buy it.    This whole thing is just too bizarre.  Look at all the facts combined together.   It's weirdness.   Knowing what Scientology is all about, and seeing it as the underlying fabric of this story, you have to put two and two together.  Or at least consider it as a strong possibility of what may be really going on here.}