Re: Organic portals

let us roll on Seeking. check this:

chaff
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chaff 1 (chf)
n.
1. Botany Thin dry bracts or scales, especially:
its more of a chooa. The dry bracts enclosing mature grains of wheat and some other cereal grasses, removed during threshing.
b. The scales or bracts borne on the receptacle among the small individual flowers of many plants in the composite family.
2. Finely cut straw or hay used as fodder.
3. Trivial or worthless matter: ignored the picky, unimportant criticisms that were just a lot of chaff.
4. Strips of metal, foil, or glass fiber with a metal content, cut into various lengths and having varying frequency responses, that are used to reflect electromagnetic energy as a radar countermeasure. These materials, usually dropped from aircraft, also can be deployed from shells or rockets.
[Middle English chaf, from Old English ceaf.]

this IS THE DUALITY.  there is a separation and its right in front of us.  not even our idea but the way things work.  and here's the key to it, or the underlying foundation of this matter, as in "matter" and/or "for that matter"....

they have their chance(s).  we/they do our/their own separating.  awaken and move about or go where u will eventually.  there is NO JUDGEMENT on the part of all, or each--the separation comes from the vibratory level that each holds. each individual does their own "assessment" if u will,  or their own recapping or recon and ends up where they want to be.  (short explanation of a huge overall theme, and a shortcut here since the ave joe may know zilch about that even...) since many of us want to move on to higher states and we grok that, those that know nothing of moving on, upper and higher, will go to where they will move on upper and higher--eventually. ad infinitum.  its not me, or us, or anybody that can send anybody anywhere.  all do "it" to THEMSELVES.  see how that works.  nobody can judge anybody or 'assign' them to where they will go--they will do it themselves.  and so be it.  even ppl i work with at one office, 2 women that would tell u they know nothing of metaphysics or gnostic works have been telling me this--they feel it.  they are choosing not to "go with the flow" of others around them.  they tell me they can hardly stand it--being around idiots and dumbed down fellow humans.  would u CHOOSE to repeat this?  to purposefully choose to be with others of non-like kind?  this has been the learning, where one strives to BE.  i certainly have made my statements.  out on a limb.  i know i do not want to do this over again, im trying to learn my lessons on earth, in earthschool.  i have chosen to go somewhere else and not afraid to say it.  i know i cant take it the way things are, the state of affairs.  we as individuals or even as an aware 'group' of souls know the time is coming to take a stand and to exit in whatever scenario rings forth.  and everything i have read shows this is an important theme.  many many sources say this.  the C's have said this repeatedly and i will post a deal later this weekend that shows this from still another source.  it all adds up.  im not going to live near a scientist that insists on cloning a sheep with a human, such as we have seen already this morning on another thread.  i REFUSE.  i will try my damndest to NOT be near such evil and i abhor it and will take my stand.  even saying such things is part of the learning/lesson.  but the will is strong to set the gears in motion to not participate in a world where that kind of thing keeps happening.  that in and of itself is a repeat of atlantean chimera experiements and havent we had enough?  i will look evil in the eye and say"and all along some of us knew"...i chose to not get on that ride and thats what living here is about.  one must feel, and know, and strive for what one wants.  not necessarily elysian fields but go to new worlds/realms where that is uneccessary, not needed. not sanctioned.  somewhere i or we can be the best we can be.  to learn. live, and grow.  and there that is--coming full circle.  we can be the best we can be here first=practice--despite all the odds.  we do it here by living by principle--whatever ones principles are.  we have to reject inane perverted behaviors, and putrid societal mores and their injected psycho laws made by old kings and by the evil PTB.  there are actions here that abhorrent, some that scream for justice, beneficence, no malfeasance.   and u must know--i read this years ago--manmade laws--sick, not enough divine intervention in them,lack spiritual reasoning.  are minus karmic and cosmic principles.  this is the meat of it and i once wrote it in a letter to my father's piece of shit lawyer "where there is no justice--THERE IS NO LAW".  so to hell with sick low vibratory states.  we lift out of it.

and dig that up there from a google search on separating the wheat from the chaff/chafe.  quoted directly from above "ELECTROMAGNETIC energy states", dig "VARYING FREQUENCY", dig "from the composite family", see the words "thin, dry, mature"!!!  there are clues to the 'truth' in everything and all can be applied and studied.  bits and pieces shine thru.    its that choosing thing.  knowing what environment one wants or can imagine and seeing to it that it meets completion.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

32 (edited by Tom Paine 2007-05-19 10:28:03)

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I have personally encountered OP "drinking straws" as montalk so aptly called them.
They are like walking disasters waiting to catalyze any situation for the worst and
then they seem to be able to slip away unscathed.  These are the kind that need to
be tacked to the wall with a pneumatic staple gun and left on display.

As an example of CHAFF.

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chaff = [s]parasites[/s]



Wheat = Essence / Truth



And Then,



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yeah--and i forgot to say it but you guys did--SiriArc, TP, and Seeking. 

chafe--"to annoy"  "to irritate"  as in to be irritating and annoying. 

i couldnt find the C's quote, but i will.  as in the chaff/chafe=bushes and shrubs.  vegetation. my god.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

35 (edited by starling 2007-05-20 17:07:53)

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Zenden, you basically said "to your own self be true" and that's something I didn't say and I think I was wrong. I advised Oavada to blend in. So...

Montalk, you mentioned "mirroring". Isn't that something people do when they want to blend in? I've found myself doing it when I wanted to be part of a group. Copy their ways of doing things, their ideas... it's a mask, a Persona as Jung called it, which makes you appear to be part of the group but is dangerous if you come to believe that you actually are the mask. It makes things easy and safe. Too easy. I believe Zenden showed why we can't do it anymore.

If any of this "dimensional shift" or "vibrational change" or whatever is actually happening we have to decide which way to go. SiriArc talks about freedom. That seems to be the key; the change brings with it more freedom while the old ways continue with the same old slavery. I don't see how we can change while continuing to give our attention and energy to the old masks we've been wearing.

So, Oavada, my advice is not to try to be a monkey. You don't have to blend in. Just find those who are trying to grow as you are and accept that lots of people won't understand where you're trying to go. To your own self be true.

Now to see if I can take my own advice. yikes

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.

36 (edited by LightningEye 2007-06-22 08:11:11)

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From what I understand, all OPs mirror the persons they're around to some degree. (If montalk could confirm this, I would appreciate it.) You make a good distinction starling, they believe that they are the mask.

In regard to your unclarity, the "dimensional shift" can be simply called The Shift or the 2012 event. I'm realizing more and more that perhaps more than a moment in time, the 2012 event is the center of a wave of change.

"To thine own self be true!" Great advice, starling.
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Re: Organic portals

LightningEye wrote:

From what I understand, all OPs mirror the persons they're around to some degree. (If montalk could confirm this, I would appreciate it.) You make a good distinction starling, they believe that they are the mask.

The less individuality, freewill, self-awareness, introspective abilities, destiny, pre-incarnational talents and biases, and soul-based experience you have, the more your personality will be a mirror of others around you. It makes perfect sense that if there is no face behind the mask, the mask is all that exists. For OPs (aka the "Once-Born") it is not a matter of belief but a matter of natural existence.

Sure, souled people can also mirror others to a smaller extent -- salesmen do it as a matter of rapport -- but there is a difference between a face identifying with its mask and a mask without a face. Neither possibility is mutually exclusive of the other. It's just that sooner or later, if you are perceptive and get close enough, you find that some people have only an assortment of masks and if you project your consciousness behind the mask, you find there is nothing there. How do you explain that? Not with the explanation that they are faces identifying with their masks, because even so you can still see the soul in the eyes peeking through, while with OPs even the eyes are part of the mask or perhaps mirrored to reflect your own.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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Thank you for that easy to understand parallel, Montalk!

I think my ability to discern just increased greatly. I am also grateful that I only know one or two OPs by name. I suppose that reflects how I choose my associations carefully. If these masks were physical, then every mask would be reflective, I suppose. Some more than others.

But what about people without a mask at all? Do they exist?

39 (edited by nexus 2007-06-23 05:10:22)

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My understanding of soulless people is that they are the Atlantean genetic clones who have been re-incarnating. I will get to their 're-incarnating' in a minute but first what i understand of them... gathered from everywhere.... 

The soulless "OPs" were clinically produced by Atlantean scientists back then  [and most probably now too] as humans with 'human' abilities and faculties.  For example the "OPs" do obviously have a physical body.  They do have an emotional forcefield and also have what the older esoteric works call a "lower mental body". This lower mental faculty is what most of the human race have self created, and express themselves through it anyway, so the "OPs" blend in nicely.

What the "OP" does not have is a soul incarnating in their form.  They also do not have a "higher mental body" [also called the Christmind or higher Self.]  That is why there is nothing behind the programmed mental and emotional responses.  They do not have an I AM Presence or the 'spiritual circuitry' of the chakra system which [in Spiritual people] anchors and integrates the 4 lower [material] bodies together with the brain and central nervous system.  Spiritual man and woman are a beautiful piece of multidimentional handiwork created by a brilliant loving God.  We did not rise up from the primordial slime.  However, originally our souls may well have been 'molded' from a more elemental consciousness by the 'master potter' [the perfect blueprint]....

Anyway... the OPs.      Apart from having only the 3 lower [material] bodies mentioned [ physical,emotional, mental] soulless 'man' is also devoid of the etheric body. This 4th, and highest, material body is very important.  It is the etheric memory sheath of our divine identity in God.  This etheric body is impressed with all the memories of all experiences in the Spiritual AND material planes we have ever had so it gives us a continuity of identity through all time and across the spiritual and material planes. 

The soulless 'man' only produces brain memory during a given incarnation but these impressions, as well as all the emotional and mental expressions produce a psuedo- identity which survives death.  So, while they cannot give expression to a spiritual Self which they do not have, they do express a pseudo- 'self' which goes no deeper than the programming from parents, school and society.  The identity of an OP is not easy to judge given that so many people with souls are so divorced from soul consciousness and often too are possessed with astral entities.  Because of these dark overlays  someone of the light can appear to be devoid of light.  So this musn't be a 'which' hunt... 'which'one has a soul and 'which' doesn't.

But as stated, in the soulless ones, the totally false identity is a forcefield which survives the death of the physical body and through re- incarnation is reinforced and built upon in each successive incarnation. Where there is no spiritual heart there is no moral compass. 

So how can they re-incarnate?  How can the programmed identity of a soulless being re-incarnate?  Well firstly, similar to how an ensouled being re-incarnates.  I believe the OP's reincarnation can be explained by comparing their identity with the way all of us have produced the programmed identity in ourselves that we call the 'mask'.

Just like any of us, when we express ourselves in ways which are external to the express Will of our higher Self we feed an external karmic self.  Through eons of doing so we have all produced a lower self... an egoic psuedo- identity which is not [eternally] real but which has been reinforced by our societal and self programming.  This pseudo- self is not real because it vibrates at a lower rate than our true inner Spiritual identity.  For the people who have a soul and an I AM Presence, the unreality of this external karmic self can be proven by transmuting it in the alchemical fire of our inner spiritual identity.  For the "OP" who does not have the spiritual gift of life/ divine selfhood, they cannot enjoy the alchemy of spiritual change.  They are a karmic 'self' and that is what they are.

But soulless humans do re-incarnate.  Just not a with a soul [which is a projection of the spiritual I AM.]  But there are differences in the process.  Souls created in spirit go through a fairly orderly process of close guidance by a true hierarchy of Spiritual beings and are given all the assistance that can be given within the law of karma and freewill as they sojourn through time and space in successive incarnations.  OPs created on earth can go no higher than astral and mental planes in 'life' or in 'death' [because a person must have a spiritual consciousness in order to 'occupy' the spiritual planes in 'life' or 'death'.]  So the OPs are organised in and by a false hierarchy with the fallen angels at the top and some of the worst of them take new physical bodies by force.

The ensouled spiritual person can be an open vessel for the spiritual Self.  The souless being however, is not a vessel for a higher Self  [which they don't have] so they can only "generate" the lower psychic energies of the lower emotional and mental bodies.  They also can only be the open portal for their pseudo- self or for other lower forces using them.

Jesus said : "The children of this world are wiser in their generation than the children of the light"

"The children of this world [OPs created on earth] are wiser in their generation
[ in their "generating" lower psychic forces]
than the children of the light [are in "generating" higher spiritual forces.]"

So we had better wise up.  "Be wise as a serpent [the fallen angels who created "OPs"]
                                               and gentle as a dove [of the holy spirit within you]"

Jesus also said something like :

     " No man ascends to the Father except he who has descended from the Father."

ie. " No man [OPs created on earth by 'men'] ascends to the Father [the I AM Presence]
       except he [all the spiritual souls projected into materiality]
       who has descended from the Father [ the I AM Presence]."

If you have a spiritual self [ I AM ] that is where your soul descended from and that is where you will ascend to.  A soulless human has not descended from spirit and so will not ascend back.

This is how it had been since the days of Atlantis.

But something happened 'ages' ago which adds another dimension [perhaps literally] to the soulless humans.

Guatama Buddha made statements alluding to the fact that he desired the salvation of "all sentient life".  He stated that he had compassion for all sentient beings who could all eventually attain to 'buddhahood'.

That was about 2500 years ago.  [In almost every respect the Christic and Buddhic messages are the same and so i believe they originated in the same consciousness from the same group of Himalayan Adepts.] About 500 years later Jesus came making the above quoted statements of truth [ and many others... which is why it's easy for me to accept Jesus' came because the enemies of truth simply did not have the wit or enlightenment to put such enlightened statements into the mouth of a fictional character...  not to mention the Apochrophal works edited out of the bible... see the dead sea scrolls for example.]

Anyway after his time in Palestine Jesus left the scene trying to comfort his friends and 'followers' by saying :

"If i go not, i cannot send you the comforter who my Father [ my I AM Presence ] will send you."

Jesus has recently explained the meaning of that statement... a spiritual Adept can multiply their spiritual presence for the many as a sacrificial gift of themselves.  They can do so not simply by bi- locating [as most of us have heard an Adept can do physically]  but by multi- locating a replica of their spiritual identity for many lost souls and even for those without a soul.  Believe it or not.  Jesus has said that he is not the only ascended being who has done this through time.

Most people don't have an idea of what a magnificent and powerful spiritual being is the Christ or the Buddha.[either within themselves or in Jesus or Guatama.]  It's too easy from the viewpoint of the human consciousness to limit what a Christ or Buddha could or could not do.  So i just pass it on for your contemplation in this subject of "OPs". 

Jesus has said that, although the opportunity is there he doesn't expect the whole world will wake up tomorrow morning and accept it.   So if you know you have met an OP and you don't see the flicker of light in the eye?  Or your own eye?  Know that anyone, even someone with no manifest spirit can, if they choose to accept, look 'up' and actually find a spiritual selfhood given for purpose and a season.  If a person will accept the Christ light and go through the painfull process of surrender in order to integrate with it, it is the [only] open door to spiritual salvation [ self- elevation.] Jesus, Guatama and others cannot do it for us... but they have given more than most people know.

Most all of the recalcitrant fallen angels have rejected this same gift when Jesus entered the astral pit 2000 years ago to offer them life for the final time since their fall and descent into material planes.  They rejected it because they know the path back to oneness with God is one of humility, sacrifice [ of the lower self ] and service. They've been the king pins in the material planes for so long they'd rather die than 'surrender' the power and acoutrements of lower selfhood.  The worst of them had been remanded to the astral pit since the infamy of their final days on Atlantis. [I am not talking about the mass entities/ beasts which are comprised of the mass thought/feeling forms in the astral plane....  I am talking of beings who long ago originated in God but who fell into rebellion against God and his Christ within all of us.

It is said that Jesus descended into 'hell' [ the lower astral plane ] to preach to these rebellious spirits. You don't believe it?   Do you know any rebellious spirits incarnate? or discarnate?  Seen any on MTV ? In the White House ? Over your back fence?  Their final opportunities have been given but they are hell bent on self annihilation and the annihilation of the rest of us. They have sustained a death culture and have 'drunk the blood' [ stolen the spiritual life essence ] of the "innocents" [those with spiritual "inner sense"] until they are swaggering around the earth 'drunk' with their stolen temporal power.

A cycle of opportunity is concluding for the soulless and for the worst of the worst of those who created them. These past 25800 years [ twice around the clock in a grand cycle ] is the end of the line for many.

"God is not mocked, whatsoever a man shall sow, that shall he also reap"                     

While there is breath there is hope.

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nexus wrote:

My understanding of soulless people is that they are the Atlantean genetic clones who have been re-incarnating. I will get to their 're-incarnating' in a minute but first what i understand of them... gathered from everywhere.... 

The soulless "OPs" were clinically produced by Atlantean scientists back then  [and most probably now too] as humans with 'human' abilities and faculties.  For example the "OPs" do obviously have a physical body.  They do have an emotional forcefield and also have what the older esoteric works call a "lower mental body". This lower mental faculty is what most of the human race have self created, and express themselves through it anyway, so the "OPs" blend in nicely.

Very interesting, but OP stuff is weird and confusing anyway...

I do not know if Atlantis created OPs or not, but who created the
human race did not finished the job...

Destroyed before finishing the project?  -  Atlantis?
Funking slaves/puppets do not need to be perfect?  - Sitchin/sumerian stuff?
Or we were sabotaged? - Babel Tower stuff related?

Humans have more genetic defects than any other living creature on earth!!!
More than 4000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_disorder 
We are BETA!!!!

Lloyd Pye Essays
http://www.lloydpye.com/
We humans have over 4,000 genetic defects spread throughout our common gene pool. Think about that. No other species comes close. And yet, our mitochondrial DNA proves we have existed as a species for "only" about 200,000 years. Remember the first Cro-Magnon fossils showing up in strata 120,000 years old? That fits well with the origin of a small proto-group at around 200,000 years ago. (There will almost certainly be Cro-Magnon fossils found prior to 120,000 years ago, but it is unlikely they were dispersed widely enough to have left fossils near the 200,000-year mark. Naturally, the very first one could have been fossilised, but that's not the way to bet. Fossilisation is quite rare.)

All that being the case, how did over 4,000 genetic defects work their way into the human gene pool, when such genome-wide defects are rare to nonexistent in wild or natural species? (Remember, Darwin himself noticed that humans are very much like domesticated animals in many of our physical and biological traits.) It can only have occurred if the very first members (no more than a handful of breeding pairs) had the entire package of faults within their genome. That's the only way Eskimos and Watusis and all the rest of humanity can express the exact same genetic disorders.

If we descended from apes, as Darwinists insist, then apes should have a very large number of our genetic defects. They do not. If, on the other hand, we've been genetically unique for only 200,000 years, then the only way those defects could be with us is if they were put into our gene pool by the genetic manipulation of the founding generation of our species, and the mistakes made in that process were left in place to be handed down to posterity. And, as might be expected, this is also how domesticated plants and animals came to have their own inordinate numbers of genetic defects. It simply couldn't happen any other way.

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By 1998 enough was known, and Pye revealed it. In 1996, only two years earlier, geneticists announced the results of their years-long efforts to establish when humans split off from the “common ancestor” they shared at some point with chimpanzees, our closest genetic relatives. The uniformly accepted timeframe of archeologists and anthropologists was between 5.0 million to 8.0 million years ago, so geneticists felt they could put a bracket inside that wide range by analyzing the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) of a statistically meaningful array of modern humans to determine which groups were the oldest, and then date those by counting mutations to their mtDNA.

When the answer came in, everyone was flabbergasted. Human DNA history didn’t go back to 8.0 million years ago, or to 5.0 million years ago. It went back only a relative eye blink—to just 200,000 years! Something had to be wrong, hugely wrong, with such a recent date. If humans were no older than 200,000 years…. That possibility sent shudders through every scientist forced to seriously consider it. It just had to be wrong. However, subsequent testing of the male Y chromosome showed it was unquestionably true.

Because there was no way to rationally or logically explain such a glaring discrepancy in the evolutionist story of human origins, the new date had to be explained away. This was done by creating the phantasmagorical device of a “genetic bottleneck” through which humanity could be squeezed. For as absurd as that sounds (and is), here is how the scenario played out:

“First, nobody get excited. Okay? Everything’s gonna stay the same. Humans did, in fact, evolve from an ancient common ancestor with chimps. Yes, this mitochondrial mess was a close call, but now Jake’s come up with a loophole, so we can go back to normal and move ahead like nothing ever happened. Everybody got that? Good. Now, here’s what we have to say….”

By some unknown but deadly means, virtually every human ancestor alive at 200,000 years ago was wiped out. Only a literal handful in southern Africa (where the geneticists proved the earliest humans appeared) managed to avoid the plague that felled everyone else. That literal handful, no more than a few dozen at most, became the breeding stock for every member of every race on the planet today—all six billion of us. Only by imagining such an improbable worldwide catastrophe can Darwinian evolution be distorted enough to jibe with the impossible-to-distort mitochondrial DNA results.

Lloyd Pye
http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=3596

Bye, Pictus

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41 (edited by Barefoot Doc 2007-06-25 07:51:06)

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Pictus wrote:

Humans have more genetic defects than any other living creature on earth!!!
More than 4000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_disorder 
We are BETA!!!!

The homeopathic tool of miasms goes a long way in explaining these genetic taints, Great Grandad had TB and so passed on a tubercular  miasm to his offspring for example, Great Nan had syphilis and so her offspring would inherit a syphilitic miasm with all the emotional mental and physical baggage that come with it as a taint.
Wrong living, thinking, false beliefs, etc i feel does affect our DNA and is passed on to the next generation, more in the way of an energy transfer than by genetics. Even Trauma can cause a miasm as well as environmental factors, toxins and chemicals etc.
Most of us have these miasms or taints which can often be mistaken for actual  entity attachments but i feel they are more like genetic taints with a message that affects our DNA.

Read about miasms here
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/h … m_gina.htm

Edit: I think we are getting genetically weaker, for example all the people having children by IBF and other unnatural means, i saw some data once that clearly shown how IBF born children have far more ill health and a shorter life expectancy than naturally born children, then they go on to have kids of their own with the "test tube" miasm going along with it.
TPTB seem to have a vested interest in these miams and genetically weakening the population.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

42 (edited by Pictus 2007-06-25 08:53:52)

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Thanks, very interesting!
I consider one more “bullet” to help understating the enigma, but the enigma still
there as it is a broader and bigger thing.

Following this line, the better progeny will come from Buddhist monks, but they
celibate...

Also one more reason for me not procreate!!

Bye, Pictus

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43 (edited by nexus 2007-06-25 10:02:46)

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Hi pictus,

Good article.

I think what i was trying to say is that the Ops were simply people who were created from the same 'stock' as anyone else back then but through artificial means... i suppose just like a cloned animal [or human today].  I believe that our spiritual hierarchs are not obliged to ensoul a new body just because an Atlantean scientist has decided to artificially clone one.

My view is that they were soulless for that reason... Not given one.

Also, i think all the genetic defects / diseases have been "perfected" over time by abductions of humans and replanting them back to infect others [ genetically and biologically] over the millenia.

44 (edited by Barefoot Doc 2007-07-29 03:59:54)

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I have come across some Gnostic articles that mention "Permanent Atom Beings" and "Non Permanent Atom beings" which fits into the OP theory.
According to the atricles PAB are from the true source and trapped in matter while NPAB are the creation of the celestial error or demiurge.

http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/prop … istory.htm

http://www.anandgholap.net/AB_Web_Of_Life.htm

and from http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/prop … urney2.htm

It is a frenzied effort by the demonic demigod to exploit True Beings as much as possible in trying to avert its fate that will occur with the conclusion of this war.

It tried to manipulate its way out of the final confrontation which is to occur, hoping that it could strip enough energy from the beings with which to escape.

It is with great joy that the True Beings can celebrate the fact that it has failed miserably in its attempt to escape its final defeat.

Overcrowding, pollution, chemical contamination, antibiotic and other drug poisoning, alcohol, tobacco, pornography, negative television, etc. have reach their zenith at this time so that True Beings can be stripped of their energy.

The population explosion is an indication that more and more non permanent atom beings are being created with which to crowd this plane and cause the problems with which this overcrowded planet is burdened.

The higher the percentage of non permanent atom beings is, the more successfully can the evil system work to exploit the True Beings. Many of the demonic beings have been concentrating onto this plane also for the reason of energy extraction.

I am not too sure about that one, the author seems to think the population expansion is due to more NPAB being created by the demiurge which i accept as a possibility then the world depopulation would be about getting rid of PABs and spoiling the waking up party or the hundreth monkey syndome.
However if the divine souce does still play in this game then....................

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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The time has come to talk of many things: Of shoes and ships and sealing wax, of cabbages and kings, And why the sea is boiling hot, And whether pigs have wings.

Nexus wrote:

The identity of an OP is not easy to judge given that so many people with souls are so divorced from soul consciousness and often too are possessed with astral entities.  Because of these dark overlays  someone of the light can appear to be devoid of light.  So this musn't be a 'which' hunt... 'which'one has a soul and 'which' doesn't.

Wonderful play on words. "Which Hunt", indeed. It is important to hold back on judgement. I usually fall back on the "what kind of fruit does the tree bear" idea. Good fruit? Good tree.

Jesus said : "The children of this world are wiser in their generation than the children of the light"

"The children of this world [OPs created on earth] are wiser in their generation
[ in their "generating" lower psychic forces]
than the children of the light [are in "generating" higher spiritual forces.]"

Could you show me where it is documented that he said this?

Jesus also said something like :

     " No man ascends to the Father except he who has descended from the Father."

ie. " No man [OPs created on earth by 'men'] ascends to the Father [the I AM Presence]
       except he [all the spiritual souls projected into materiality]
       who has descended from the Father [ the I AM Presence]."

And where he said this? Thanks.

Pictus wrote:

All that being the case, how did over 4,000 genetic defects work their way into the human gene pool, when such genome-wide defects are rare to nonexistent in wild or natural species? (Remember, Darwin himself noticed that humans are very much like domesticated animals in many of our physical and biological traits.) It can only have occurred if the very first members (no more than a handful of breeding pairs) had the entire package of faults within their genome. That's the only way Eskimos and Watusis and all the rest of humanity can express the exact same genetic disorders.

That literal handful, no more than a few dozen at most, became the breeding stock for every member of every race on the planet today—all six billion of us. Only by imagining such an improbable worldwide catastrophe can Darwinian evolution be distorted enough to jibe with the impossible-to-distort mitochondrial DNA results.

Two incredible pieces of information! I had no idea we had the most errors, though it makes perfect sense. As for the breeding stock, I wonder how this relates to the story of Noah, that the world was repopulated by essentially a dozen people. Of course, if we believe the Kantec story, I wonder how that fits in. Stories, stories, so many stories...