Topic: Time line Manipulations/ Memory changes

Hi there, I wanted to bring up the subject of memory/timeline changes as Ive noticed a number of times of the last few years apparent changes in reality that others around me dont seem to be aware of, i wish i could think of specifics right now, but ironically i cant remeber them. Although I get strange Deja vu experiences particulary recently where Im watching a situation like a conversation between myself, a friend and a flatmate & all of a sudden im aware of this EXACT thing happeneing before, like i have lived this whole part of my life before, the job im at now, I felt like id done before and the flatmates i have now, i feel like this past 6 months has been like a time loop, certain events have repeated... heres an example...  A friend of mine recently moved in a new flat 6 months ago, when she did she showed me her room and annother room where a guy from the here was to be moving into in two weeks once he came back from the UK. Myself and my friend had never met this person, but at that moment as she was showing me the room he was to move into I had this strong feeling that she and him would fall in love and become partners and then move into a new house together over the next few months. I had this feeling 4 or 5 more times before he arrived and then I wasnt surprised later to discover that he had indeed become her boyfriend and they did move into a new place as a couple a few weeks ago... It all transpired exactly as i saw it in my mind... like it had already happened... so anyway im guessing as time is an illusion and everything is really happening NOW that it would make sense that i am just seeing what has already happened? I get a lot of visions like this that happen in a flash in my mind, then later prove to be true... i predicted 911 2 weeks before it happened, what i felt in my head was a big terrorist attack on the US (by the cia) and then a sharemarket drop which is what happened as we all know... anyway im off the subject, i feel like my own timeline/memory has been manipulated and is been manipulated in some small subtle ways on a regular basis... the reason i say this is that sometimes I have to relearn something i "feel" ive already learnt, like a website or article... perhaps i have sunconsious programming or an implant that makes me periodically forget certain information, its always info that makes me feel in control or confident about my purpose here... i constantly have to reassure myself of the knowledge of who i am and why im here... any ways more later.. gotta work...

Re: Time line Manipulations/ Memory changes

AwakeKiwi wrote:

Hi there, I wanted to bring up the subject of memory/timeline changes as Ive noticed a number of times of the last few years apparent changes in reality that others around me dont seem to be aware of, i wish i could think of specifics right now, but ironically i cant remeber them ...

... anyway im off the subject, i feel like my own timeline/memory has been manipulated and is been manipulated in some small subtle ways on a regular basis...

possibilities:

- we are currently coming to the end of a great cycle of time, and anomalies are to be expected
- through continuing spiritual education we, among other things, may develop a tendency to transcend time
- time has been artificially manipulated through advanced technology
- it's a normal feeling, caused by some chemical reaction, and we're just reading too much into it

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Before I moved here, I was discussing a place decided against with family members, when I felt like it had all happened before. (This happened a couple of months ago.) I thought to myself, "Yes, I remember now, that place doesn't work out. I move in somewhere else." And this is all as if I'm "remembering" the present from the future, then instantly back in the present. Very vertiginous. I wrote that one down, but there have been others that went "poof."

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yes interesting, the timeline I saw with my friend who became this guys partner was a very powerfull thought... i know it wasnt some trick of my mind... absolutely certain i saw the future timeline in a flash... simalr thing happening now wioth my new flatmate... i saw her and me getting together in my mind, i have stopped this timeline from happening by consiously stepping back and not lewtting myself get emotionally attached to her, as i see it as a attempt to introduce annother OP into my life to distract me from my purpose... interesting that i am now able to see these possible futures before they happen and then change it by making a few small changes in my own approach to that person... she hasnt given up in seducing me but ive made it quite clear that im aware of the attempts and that im not interested... i know shes an OP cause theres too many coincidences about how simalar she appears to be and how she has all the same apparent likes and interests as me...

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I was under the impression that according to the OP theory, one cannot tell an OP from a "souled" human except perhaps after knowing that person for years.  It seems  dangerous to me to casually label someone as OP.  There's a lot of people out there in different stages of development psychologically and socially.  Perhaps she really is similar to you... or perhaps she's a spy assigned to monitor you, but who has a soul. big_smile

A few more ideas on timeline anomalies:

If this reality is a school, then perhaps we KEEP REPEATING the same time sequences over and over until we "get them right" according to some higher principles -- like being held back a grade.  That's one idea I've had.

Another which concerns me more is the possibility that somebody messing around may have accidentally ripped time causing irreparable damage, and the bizarre reality fluctuations some notice are the result.  You know, like in Dark City.. what if those "stangers" had an equipment malfunction?

Or how about this:  due to the growing STS vs STO imbalance, divine intervention is now in the process of occuring, and these are the signs.

6 (edited by lyra 2004-09-15 21:36:50)

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morningsun76 wrote:

 
A few more ideas on timeline anomalies:

If this reality is a school, then perhaps we KEEP REPEATING the same time sequences over and over until we "get them right" according to some higher principles -- like being held back a grade.  That's one idea I've had.

Another which concerns me more is the possibility that somebody messing around may have accidentally ripped time causing irreparable damage, and the bizarre reality fluctuations some notice are the result.  You know, like in Dark City.. what if those "stangers" had an equipment malfunction?

Or how about this:  due to the growing STS vs STO imbalance, divine intervention is now in the process of occuring, and these are the signs.

Those are great theories morningsun76, I've thought the same things as well.  "Dark City" was a very accurate representation of what seems to be happening in our reality.  And it's a fantastic movie to boot. smile  In some ways reality is quite maddening because we can't figure out what's going on.  In other ways, the great unsolvable mystery is kind of fun...gives us something to do. wink    If I had to choose a theory that seems to fit the best for what's happening, I vote for the idea that there has been higher dimensional manipulation of our lives by negative forces, coupled with positive intervention so that we at least stand SOME sort of chance in this zoo....without that help we'd be up the creek for sure......and the result of all of this are our de ja vus, "vertiginous" present memories from the future like Sedna Sphere described, etc.     I do remember in the C's transcripts they mentioned that our timeline has been toyed with to such an extent that it's an absolute MESS right now.  Paraphrasing that, but, that's the gist. 

What's weird is as I've read through this thread I see two accounts of time line manipulation moments centering around moving into a new apartment and new roommate situations.   I've had this myself, so count me in as #3.   It's probably because any move is a MAJOR timeline change.   It's a fork in the road, the train switching off onto another track.   It can be for the better, or, it can be a big mistake.   Which means it's a vulnerable time in anybody's timeline, and if something wanted to tinker with your life, that would be the time to do it.   Timeline manipulation centers around your personal character weaknesses (using your personality flaws to get you to do things that would be detrimental to you or others) and vulnerable times in your life, such as moving, among other things.

Anyway, this is a great thread idea...

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Do you think that timeline manipulations could be broken down into small units of time? Sometimes I have read a post here, for example, that pushed my buttons or made me "hoppin' mad" and I look back moments later and it's not there. Then you automatically think "well, they changed their post", when in fact an alternate them made that post. It was a time dissonance thing designed to create confusion, conflict, and chaos. I don't know. I could swear, absolutely swear, that this is happening. If you say anything at all to the other person, they don't even know what you're talking about and may even imply you are the manipulator.


This happened to me yesterday, and I still don't know what happened. I've been studying "The Art of Hyperdimensional War" to help keep myself centered. Now I feel less scared and angry, but still confused.


I'm pretty sure that this is a sophisticated way to create a "flare-up." This is a good subject, thanks for starting it. It's happening now, in my opinion, and I'm being challenged like never before with distractions, etc. Keeps me on my toes.


And yeah, they know how to pick their moments (aka the moving as Lyra mentioned).
Of course, it also helps to have some modicum of compassion in all this. If only for my own stupidity, I say this. 20/20 hindsite, but gotta do the right thing.

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I remember the day I heard on the news that Nelson Mandela was being released from prison. This totally flabbergasted me as I remembered him being dead. This is not the kind of thing I would be confused about. A few years later, Art Bell (who I no longer put much stock in) mentioned on his radio show that he had a similar experience.

Perhaps they screwed up and had to go back and make adjustments.

Stephen

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Isn't it possible that some of these instances that may appear to involve manipulation of some sort are really just mis-read, mis-heard or mis-remembered information? I've encountered this tendency in many people throughout my life. I've won several wagers based upon whose memory is accurate. Also, with the information overload today, it doesn't seem out of the ordinary to have heard an incorrect claim, and taken it to be true. Or to mistake something for something else amidst the chaos of conflicting data presented in media.
Or maybe there is a convergence of realities, with people having completely different information. For example, Stephen, maybe you are from a timeline where Mandela is dead, but in your present timeline, he's alive.
I'd tend to go with the former theory, as I have experience that it applies. I have nothing to substantiate the latter theory.

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hmm... nelson mandela could have died, then they replaced him with a clone or some such thingy, .....for example...now we have south africa which is still totally screwed and full of crime but people think it is a free country...  i dont think nelson or winnie mandela are the people they used to be...

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just about OP's, i feel i have an ability to spot OP's, as long as i belive strongly in my ability then i feel this ability can exist... i have created this localized reality simply by my belief in my ability... perhaps the girl in question is a human spy... she has a strict Mormon upbringing and her parents are very strong mormons... she is rebelling or pretending to rebel against this upbringing...

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But if Mandela died and was replaced by a clone, why would anyone have a memory of his death? It wouldn't have been in the "news", I'm sure. Where would Stephen's memory have come from?

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At the time this happened I kept myself well informed on the current events of the day and was concerned with events in South Africa, however when I tried to remember the details of his death I only had a vague memory that he had died in prison, although I was quite sure he had died. It's funny because I kept track of these issues and it seems like I would have remebered the details.

I had a chance to mention this to David Icke who I spoke to after hearing one of his presentations and he told me that his friend, Credo Multwa (an African Shaman) had told him that Nelson Mandela "seemed changed" to him after he was released. Of course prison can do that too.

Stephen

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yes i reacon he is changed, otherwise he would speak up about the corruption in south africa rather than pretending everythings better there, he's just not the same...

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Just a comment about OP's and spotting them, i feel as we are moving towards this 4th dimensional experience and higher frequencies then it seems to make sense to me that as OP's dont belive in this possiblity, its out of the range of understanding due to their lack of spiritual connection, THEN... they are not able to elevate with us, so im thinking as our freqs go higher it should become easier for us to spot an OP!  ...perhaps in the recent past it took a few years of carefull observation to really know an OP, but I feel this is no longer the case, it is becomming increasingly easier to spot them. Also Id like to say that doubt is a powerfull hinderance to progress... if we believe it takes 3-4 years of carefull observation to spot an OP, then that will be our reality! if we belive its getting easier then we are allowing that possiblity to manifest in the infinate ocean of possiblities, SO, the more of us who believe that it is getting easier then the easier it will become for all of us...

The next part of my info i think holds some particular importance as the following part erased itself from my memory 3-4 times in the last hour while i was working and wanted to get to a pc to write this, i actually thought i had forgotten it totally untill 5 mins ago but i managed to recall it after forcing a strong vagueness/fogginess out of my mind... I now see how there is something (an implant?) affecting my ability to remeber certain thoughts... whenever something profound or important enters my head it dissapears shortly after and i have to fight really hard to get it back... usually after ive stopped fighting it may return breifly, but if i dont write it down then it goes again... so anyway the info...

I had to keep saying over and ove rin my head (Aura, higher self, OP's) so i wouldnt forget again before i got to the PC... anyway here it is..

If our subconsious filters out most of the freq's that we "see" before it reaches our consious minds as has been stated by many researchers then perhaps on some level we already know who is an OP and who isnt, because an OP's aura supposedly is uniform and plain, ie one colour or just grey in hue whereas a fully souled humans aura or energy field is constantly changing and morphing... SO if we all ready can percive this on some unconsious/filtered level then we just have to learn how to access that knowledge we already possess and that just been aware of this ability should start to awaken that knowing within us to a more consious level, after all... awareness is what helps us to wake up to a more abilities and wider sensory frequencies, in the near future we will be able to see these energy fields and therefore spot an OP easily, what ya recon?    I feel this must be important info for some reason or it wouldnt have erased itself so quickly......   :>


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