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I'm starting to believe drugs like marijuana and coffee and some of the more potent hallucinogens like mescaline, etc. are tools used by something to harvest energy. They seem to steal life force and wear thin the person the more you use them.They give you access to another reality but that same reality sucks up your life energy and leaves you thin and unable to relate with normal society. So, in that sense i see them as something negative these days.

What do other people think?

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Peggy Kane has talked about this taking such things leaves you open to be seeded by Reptilians. Most people even on this board think she is out there. But, that's why I like her the weirder the better I say. You might want to check out this interview with her. She goes into what she thinks happened to David Icke when he took drugs to get his vision of the 'true reality'.  You'll have to hear her ideas though they are very harsh though but stick with it and you'll finally get to the drug stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLnHsPhihs

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Hey oavada, your post was submitted at 14:20..so close!  hehe

This debate will never go away, but as I've said before, I do not consider MJ a drug. It's a plant, like tea is a plant, but that's just my perspective.

Caffeine however is one I have avoided for many many years, I and it so happens I gave myself a good reminder as to why.

Last week I was in a hurry and in need of a beverage with dinner..... I grabbed a 20 oz P*psi and proceeded to down the whole thing. And yes I know all the nasty shit that is in soda, but all too often food establishments only have carbonated bevs available. Conspiracy? Probably.

But within 20 minutes I was feeling like I had a ton of stuff to do ( I did) but unusually like "gotta get this crap done, gotta gotta NOW! And just feeling uneasy, and then I remembered I just sucked down 20 ounces of liquid crack.

Wow Dumbass! Mind racing so fast I couldn't even put 2 and 2 together, cause and effect! I have avoided caffeine for so long mainly because I am kinda hi-strung naturally, and because it clashes with THC, hardcore. Kinda like trying to get drunk while on acid, you can do kegstands all night long, will have almost no effect.

I think intent with many substances is more a factor than the substance itself. This is a personal choice, and the one point I will always stress is "hey, you don't like it, fine- don't do it!" But more oten than not, I find it is 85% stigma that keeps people in constant fear of trying something new. Tradition says we are not to do that....blah blah

Even some people who are regular users of this-or-that can't shake the guilt that has been instilled, and THAT makes it feel wrong or bad.

As for the higher dimensional aspects of prohibition and what not, I will allow for that possibility, but honestly if it resonates with you and does not compel you to do things you would not normally, or create violent mood swings, then I think it's mostly OK.

I understand different people are going to react to different 'drugs' differently. But they often fail to realize that the 'imagined' effect will alter the true effect. An example, someone who has heard repeatedly that 'this' substance always creates 'this' effect will not allow their mind to go beyond the perceived prejudice and that DOES color the outcome. If someone sees many anti- advertisements, is it possible that YCYOR will overshadow the enjoyment, or experience that could have been.

That outlook tilts the scales toward the negative, and I've often wondered if some of these propaganda spots aren't actually HOPING for the worst possible scenarios en masse.

I don't want to give the impression that I am some kind of junkie, I am certainly not.  I also don't wish to promote something that others see as negative or another machination of potential control, but this is a very personal thing.

In closing I would say: If it feels like you are abandoning control when under the influence (of whatever) then stop. If you don't have predispositions or known reactions, and it feels like more of a help than a hindrance, then maybe it's time to re-analyze where the feelings of guilt may be coming from, because it might be far from your original notions.....       J

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  • Registered: 2006-03-29

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The Reptiles/Demons need all the help they can get.  smile

I'm sure drugs are used as a means of entry.  I know that heavy drug use can wear you thin.  There's this song, forgot the group.  "Too much walking shoes worn thin...too much tripping and my soul's worn thin".  Drug use can bring heavy psychosis too.  This includes MJ.

So what all the true drug stories fail to mention is the state of mind of the user to begin with.  And that is the disconnect (that I see) between those that see drugs as a valid means of exploration and those that see drugs as pure negative catalysts.  Also, as mentioned on another recent "drug" thread, it's all about intent.  If you intent to escape, by that act you are giving in, you are not in control, etc.  So that individual is by default allowing entry to whatever can fit with their current vibrational frequency envelope.

That is my own conclusion based on my own experience and the secondary experience I gained from many other people.

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That would be Stone Temple Pilots z3, and yes what you said about psychosis, even with MJ is absolutely true. But I know now, having been thru that phase long ago, that it was NOT the substance, but rather my own state of mind.

And to be responsible, I will add to what you stated: If you are in a position where you know you are susceptible to suggestion, depression, or escapism, then I would STRONGLY advise against any use of substance, however if you're like many of us, you're gonna have to find out the hard way, and nothing I say will convince you otherwise. Drugs may be a weapon to be used against us, but that same weapon may be turned on the assailant, depends on circumstances, tolerance, and a thousand other factors.

The biggest beef I have is strictly people not doing it because they have been told not to.... just think for yourselves, otherwise you are caving to yet other methods of control, no?                         J

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6 Reply by mandalis (edited by mandalis 2007-06-05 15:38:55)

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it's not the marihuana zapping the life force unless it is adulterated with chemical fertilizers which much of it is ...  if it smells really nice it is the good stuff, if if doesn't really smell nice but still looks good it is not what you want, what i call schwag 2.0 ...  lots of it is around now selling as 'kind' when it ain't ...  the energy loss is just enhanced by the use of the marihuana, it is powerful and you must be careful with it ...  respect the sacred plant ...

there are many things you are lumping together in the term 'drugs'  ...  some things like especially marihuana and caffeine are just natural enhancers ...  if you are hungry smoking marihuana will make you hungrier ... if you are tired it will make you more tired, if you are not tired it will prevent you from sleeping ...  psychedelic plants and LSD derived from the same indole ring are actually gateways to your subconsciousness  ...  if you are repressing something, take enough LSD or mushrooms and you will become forced to face it ... this is why people tweak out on LSD if there is some issue or anxiety they are not dealing with ... otherwise, these things can be supernatural enhancers of the inner focus, there were baseball players that pitched no hitters on LSD because they were enjoying themselves ... contrary to the teachings of the Scientologists or others, LSD is not inherently evil, just dangerous in the hands of someone that does not understand it  ...  just like a fast motorcycle or a gun ...  all cultures had a psychedelic mushroom that was sacred, today that sacredness is only respected in the modern society because it is illegal ...  people have a little act right because they know that if they don't chill that the man can make an issue of it ...  otherwise, people would walk around acting like imbeciles because they were on mushrooms ...

there many drugs used for control and all drugs derived synthetically from petrochemicals are examples ... they are all dis-inhibitors, which means that if you stop taking rogaine all your hair falls out or you will need viagra to keep it up ...  such things are designed that way, because a pill that would cure your impotence or other mental block with a single dose (like LSD can) is not a profitable derivative to market ...  such things also must leave pollutive reactions in order to cause the dis-inhibition that beckons more use ...

the two worst drugs out there that cause the most health problems (after alcohol and synthetic nicotine) are partially hydrogenated soybean oil and high fructose corn syrup, which is really just like alcohol ...  imagine that they calls these food additives and not drugs ... and especially today with genetically modified corn and soybeans polluting everything with 'plasmids' which are viruses that replace the RNA of the plants ... remember the alien corn in the X-files movies?  neither of these products can be digested by your metabolism so they end up accumulating in your cells and especially in the walls of your colon ...  my favorite colon cleans is the seven day miracle cleanse at http://www.7dmc.com/

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ape-x wrote:

what you said about psychosis, even with MJ is absolutely true. But I know now, having been thru that phase long ago, that it was NOT the substance, but rather my own state of mind.

Absolutely.  MJ was most beneficial in accentuating the psychosis so that it was actually easier to work with.  It highlighted it so much as to make it unbearably uncomfortable.  Whereas, the same psychosis was "normal" in everyday society.  I then sought to undo this tangle of thought forms I had allowed to happen during my childhood.  And that's all it really is.  The ego too.  It's just a way of thinking and as such can be changed by thinking differently.  Off topic but that's why I don't see the higher self and ego differently.  The ego is just a way of thinking we were taught and helped imploy in what appeared to be a hostile environment.  But that's another topic.

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Mandalis....well said. I forgot to mention, dyes, different food additives- MSG, sodium benzoate can have a marked effect on mood, why then are they not categorized as drugs? The double standards are appalling. In many cases these "substances" are VASTLY more hazardous to us mentally and physiologically, than are the soft drugs.

But they're legal and largely uncontested, although awareness there is growing in leaps and bounds, this is exactly the weird dichotomy that has led me to believe, that what is 'forbidden' is very likely more beneficial than not.

And the toxic waste which laces everything else we consume should get 100,000 times the scrutiny.

Backwards, as always.                          J

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9 Reply by psychopractor (edited by psychopractor 2007-06-05 16:15:51)

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oavada wrote:

I'm starting to believe drugs like marijuana and coffee and some of the more potent hallucinogens like mescaline, etc. are tools used by something to harvest energy. They seem to steal life force and wear thin the person the more you use them.

I think ANY habitual activity can wear your soul thin. Just look outside and observe 99% of people going to a job they hate in order to maintain a lifestyle they don't understand. You can die from drinking too much water. I've taken my fair share of mind-altering drugs, from MJ through to DMT and though I agree there are risks involved, there are also gains to be had.

To quote Bill Hicks: 'That's why I always recommend a psychedelic experience because it makes you realize that all you've learned is in fact just learned and not necessarily the truth.'

edit: Also I just recalled a time where I had mushrooms and they made me aware that there was (for want of a better term) a psychic parasite attached to my spine. After a few days of trying differents ways I finally got rid of it and after it was gone I realised it was the major contributor to manic-depression I'd been experiencing for years.

Btw: this thing, whatever it was, fed on negative emotions. I know this because of my different attempts of removing it. First I tried 'blasting' it off by visualising my energy hitting it hard (no effect, it just gobbled it up). A couple days later I tried playing it's own game and visualising sucking out IT'S energy which resulted in me nearly being physically sick and passing out in the middle of Sydney. Somehow I came to the solution of drowning it in love and kindness at which point it kind of freaked out and dropped off.

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psychopractor wrote:

edit: Also I just recalled a time where I had mushrooms and they made me aware that there was (for want of a better term) a psychic parasite attached to my spine. After a few days of trying differents ways I finally got rid of it and after it was gone I realised it was the major contributor to manic-depression I'd been experiencing for years.

Btw: this thing, whatever it was, fed on negative emotions. I know this because of my different attempts of removing it. First I tried 'blasting' it off by visualising my energy hitting it hard (no effect, it just gobbled it up). A couple days later I tried playing it's own game and visualising sucking out IT'S energy which resulted in me nearly being physically sick and passing out in the middle of Sydney. Somehow I came to the solution of drowning it in love and kindness at which point it kind of freaked out and dropped off.

I know exactly what youre talking about because I have one "feeding" now. It seems to enter from the base of the spine and eats its way up near my throat. I can see and feel it "crunching" away and eating everything in its path.  I assume its some sort of kundalini snake entity, or when Morrison in "The Doors" says,

"“Close your eyes…see the snake.  See the serpent appear?  That is ten feet long and five feet wide.  He has one red eye and one green eye.  He's seven miles long.  Deadly.  See it?  All the history of the world is on his scales.  All the people, all the actions—we’re all just little pictures on his scales!  God, he's big!  He's moving.  Devouring consciousness…digesting power!  Monster of energy!  It’s a monster.  Kiss the snake on the tongue.  Kiss the snake.  But if it senses fear, it will eat us instantly.  But if we kiss it without fear, it will take us through the garden, through the gate to the other side.  Ride the snake—to the other side.” .

I find it ironic he also referred to himself as "The Lizard King".

I really dont know what to do with it. I get the feeling i should try to coil it back up, "tame" it if you will by subduing it to the base of the spine. If i do that, something in the center will open up, perhaps the passage to the "void" realm.

Anyway, thanks for that input..interesting to know someone else has the exact same experience.

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I quote some article about drugs and possession here:
http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 055#p42055

the original semi-anthroposophical/conspiracist web site had vanished but it came back:
http://fakeapoc.tripod.com/satanism/sat … ebsite.htm

British Psychiatry: From Eugenics to Assassination
http://fakeapoc.tripod.com/writings_by_ … nation.htm

occult aspect of ecstasy and its pushers
http://fakeapoc.tripod.com/black_magic/ … cstasy.htm

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I lived (survived) during the psychedelic era and can look back and see a lot of damage done to myself and others at a critical time in our lives. I wonder if the whole thing was orchestrated by some negative forces.

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WEOPPOSEDECEPTION wrote:

I lived (survived) during the psychedelic era and can look back and see a lot of damage done to myself and others at a critical time in our lives. I wonder if the whole thing was orchestrated by some negative forces.

Could you be a bit more specific?

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Excessive use became a form of escapism from life and this led to stunted emotional growth. Progression to narcotics and alcohol took out a large number of my friends. The LSD in use was not exactly pharmaceutical grade. Fried brains.

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There are astral entities associated with a lot of drugs... eg. Tobacco ['natural'], marijuana [ natural ] alchohol [natural], plant based psychadelics [natural]...

Natural is not neccessarily 'good'.

Getting eaten by a lion is natural too.  So is poison ivy.  Not good.

But a word about the entity attachments in general.  The use and abuse of drugs actually can cause the aura to get 'porous'. We all have a delicate membrane of light protecting our mental/emotional body from being penetrated by astral entities. 

Call it an astral sheath.  It is in various states of disrepair in most people.  Powerful negative emotional expressions and general 'riotousness' [for want of a better word] can tear this delicate light membrane and cause various states of vulnerability to malignant astral forces.  So can the use of drugs.

Without this membrane we would all be much easier prey for 'neg' entities.  As it is we've done a pretty good job of damaging ourselves to some degree.  Sometimes psychosis can be explained by this breaching/ rupturing of the astral sheath. It is not just brain chemistry causing drug psychosis or derro alchoholism with it's 'delerium tremens'. They have degenerated to being an open door to the astral plane.  What these people are seeing and hearing are astral forms and entities.

The entity has powerful desires. It gets an energy infusion when you take the drug. They do wrap themselves around the spine and brain and draw the light from you.  Have you ever heard the saying... " if you're not using a water filter then you are a water filter?"  You could say that if you're habitually using drugs then you are a drug... to a discarnate astral entity.

Your'e right WeOpposeDeception.... twas a psyop for sure.

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