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feritciva wrote:

I don't think archon mind is a kind of parasite, although the principle may be the same, it is much more advanced than that. And the position of planet Earth is just like the town in the episode, far away from the "civilisation" with no communication with outside.

I remember that episode, good parallel you did.
We need the "link" back, for me the fall from paradise is the lost of the "link".

Bye, Pictus

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feritciva wrote:

\They even interfere and tell us what to eat/drink, when to eat, with whom to have sex, how to pray, how to worship with details. These are all for humanity's good, to "save" them so to speak. But... what if these all are for the "parasite's" good? What if these practices guarantees the well being of archon mind which took over humanity as we recently discuss here in several threads?

Stuie Wilde says something similar, that many things that are bad for the "ghouls" are made taboo in our society.  He cites nicotine as being one of them.  He says that nicotine protects you from them, which is why people are now being told not to smoke.  I have mixed feelings about this.  As a former smoker, I really wanted to get on board with that one before I quit!  But then again, I knew that in the '50's people smoked like fiends, and they still played into the hands of ignorance.  In China, they still do, and look what that's gotten them.

But as for those other taboos that have been around for thousands of years, I tend to agree.  There must be something to that.  I definitely feel that certain substances which have been used by shamanic cultures to see through the veil have been demonized in order to keep us from knowing the truth.  But dangerous substances like meth and coke have been subtly introduced (even though made illegal) to keep us asleep.

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Children of the Sun

YOU Entered

And Changed A Nightmare

Into OUR Dream



Brain Damage
(Waters)

The lunasite is on the grass.
The lunasite is on the grass.
Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs.
Got to keep the loonies on the path.

The lunasite is in the hall.
The lunasite are in my hall.
The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
And every day the paper boy brings more.

And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

The lunasite is in my head.
The lunasite is in my head
You raise the blade, you make the change
You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane.
You lock the door
And throw away the key
There's someone in my head but it's not me.


And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear
You shout and no one seems to hear.
And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

_____     _____     _____     _____     _____



Billy Thorpe

Children of the Sun

People of the earth can you hear me
Came a voice from the sky on that magical night
And in the colors of a thousand sunsets
They traveled to the world on a silvery light

The people of the earth stood waiting
Watching as the ships came one by one
Setting fire to the sky as they landed
Carrying to the world children of the sun, children of the sun

All at once came a sound from the inside
Then a beam made of light hit the ground
Everyone felt the sound of their heartbeat
Every man, every woman, every child

They passed the limits of imagination
Through the door to the world of another time
And on the journey of a thousand lifetimes
With the children of the sun, they started to climb

Children of the sun, children of the sun

No more gravity, nothing holding them down
Floating endlessly, as their ship leaves the ground
Through the walls of time, at the speed of light
Fly the crystal ships on their celestial flight, on their celestial flight

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[as requested, tobacco posts moved to Tobacco]

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WOW, I always knew there was something horribly wrong with the Jehovah's Witness religion. An alien entity! Actually makes sense now, brings some things into a new light. Like the speakers and magazines talked about Jehovah using "Particle Beams" and "advanced technology" to clean up the earth after armaggedon. They repeat things constantly, to pound it into the peoples heads just like all other propoganda methods. They control thier lifes.

Charles Taze Russel, the founder of modern day JW's, well he was appearantly a 33rd degree mason, and even had a huge pyramid placed over his grave. Thats where he got his calculations for the time of armageddon, the hallways in the pyramids.

The religion/corporation is run by a "council" of 5 members, claiming to have direct contact with "Jehovah"...

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If there is a Yahweh or an entity who is known as Yahweh, he/it certainly isn't nice. Then again, isn't that obvious?

"There cannot be progress without expression. There cannot be expression without separation. There cannot be separation without progress."-Ouroboros

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DreamLand

http://www.unknowncountry.com/

Listen Now (top right corner)

William Henry Host:

John Lash is one of the great interpreters of Gnostic wisdom alive today, and William Henry brings his unique understanding to a deeply moving and disturbing interview about the dark forces called the Archons and their battle with early Christians.

Not in His Image

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From:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 11&p=3   #36


John Lash wrote:

The Archons can insinuate their alien intelligence into our minds, but they cannot completely take control of our minds. This however can happen if our consciousness surrenders, but not by the force of their domination.

The way to get out of this is to be able to distinguish what is authentically human in our minds from what is unhuman, stupid, mechanical, blind, and proceeding just by imitation. That is, we must become conscious of our human potential in order to be able to see how it is distorted and subverted.

Likewise, we must become aware of our authentic mind, of our true human potential in order to see how we are diverted.

This world, I mean life on earth, is in reality not as you describe it. The mode of description that you propose is already the result of a deviant perception. There is as many (and even more) proofs within nature showing the existence of symbiosis and cooperation than showing the existence of predation and fear. The way the Earth functions is a miracle of symbiosis, it's also a magic event. Consequently, there is no way this functioning is provoked by the "influence or the manipulation of the universe by the Archons and the Flyers". The Archons influence the way you perceive the world, they don't influence the world in itself.

The primordial Power of the world in which we dwell is the Divinity residing in our planet, the intelligence of Gaia, called Sophia by the Gnostics. If you align with Gaia's intelligence, you don't any longer perceive the world as a place invested by fear and predation, but as a world of beauty, goodness and magic.

The impact she provoked on the elementary matter of the galaxy's arms generated inorganic species - the Archons. The Archons then started to build a planetary inorganic system, a clockwork mechanism. The Earth, the living planet who served as an envelope for Sophia, was captured in a lifeless system. That is where the "mistake" - or more precisely the anomaly - lies.

The challenge is to become a real human, we could view man as a kind of bridge between the 2 aspects of creation, the 2 faces of God. The complete man would "reconcile", or unite these 2 accepts, creating something really new.

That's how I understood Gurdjieff's words when he said:  "Think of good and evil like right hand and left hand. Man always have two hands--two sides of self--good and evil. One can destroy other. Must have aim to make both hands work together, must acquire third thing: thing that make peace between two hands, between impulse for good and impulse for evil. Man who all 'good' or man who all 'bad' is not whole man, is one-sided. Third thing is conscience.

It is because of this fundamental dynamic marking the completion of creation, where everything finally aligns as it should that Sophia is at the heart of the Earth, and at the heart of every human. And it makes sense that Archons have influenced things because they are the primary representatives and concentrated causalities of the imbalance between being and non-being, which marks the incompleteness of creation. In fact, Archons themselves are incomplete beings.

Because of the very particular intensity of her Dream, Sophia came to incarnate on planet earth and consequently, she represents, for us who dwell on planet earth, the true divinity in the bosom of which we're living. She's the real living Matrix. Sophia is the divinity of Nature, to speak in theological terms. What does she look like? It's something we must strive to comprehend through practice, through the path of sacred knowledge, Gnosis. All the Mysteries were dedicated to come to understand Gaia and to serve the high intelligence of the Aion Sophia.

Well, the perception of things is a construction. All perception!  Keep in mind that the Archons are masters in virtual reality. In coptic (which is the language of the NHC), this phenomenon is designed under the term HAL, "simulation". Gnostic texts state that the Archons "abduct souls at night"; They do it through virtual reality (or VR), techniques of VR simulation. Of course, the "VR" of the Archons is as real for them as is our earth's reality for us. The difference is that we can interact in symbiosis with this VR. The other difference is that the Archons manipulate unorganic quantum fields whereas we manipulate the bands of perception which shape these fields. The Gnostics considered that we were superior to the Archons in thought, perception and intention.

Karmapolis: The Gnostics denounce the part played by the Archons. Did you find the same kind of warning about them in other religious traditions ?

J L: No, I cannot say I found this information so clearly and exhaustively presented in other religious traditions. Keep in mind that Gnosis is a path of knowledge, not a religion!  The Mysteries are schools of paranormal knowledge, not religious institutions. I am convinced all the religions divert the human potential, but the three religions of Abraham - Judaism, Christianism and Islam - are potentially fatal. They lead to a terminal deviation, a dead end for our species. You won't find any religion warning you that it is dangerous for your mental health and your physical survival. The Gnostics saw in the redeeming and saving religion (the belief in a Messiah coming to save us from "our" sins) both the proof and the instrument of an alien intrusion.

The Gnostic teachings and Schools of Mysteries are one and the same thing. Theoricians of conspiracy ... think that satanic rituals come from the Schools of Mysteries and that Schools of Mysteries are the source of ritual and satanic abuses as well as of the Illuminati and the masonic traditions. How and why do these authors link the Schools of Mysteries, the Illuminati and Satanism? Why are they denouncing so virulently the Gnostics and the Schools of Mysteries as well as the Roman Catholic religion, when one knows that the Gnostics were persecuted by the Catholics?

Theoricians of conspiracy who propose the thesis of an alien intervention are not familiar with the subject of the Mysteries, and I think this for two reasons : first, they haven't directly experienced the death of the ego nor lived a teaching by Light comparable to the experiences of the Mysteries. Second, they didn't make the distinction between the methods and the mobiles of the Illuminati, and the authentic teaching of the Gnostics. The Illuminati were deranged initiates who had a deep knowledge of the practices of the Mysteries but who misused them to acquire a social and political power. The Schools of Mysteries were not training camps for Illuminati's as Icke believes. It's a heavy mistake on his part. It was strictly forbidden to the Illuminati to take part in the Mysteries once they were spotted and identified. In other words, the Illuminati practiced occult sciences (mostly programming and mind control) and had to be evicted from the Mysteries... but that's a story (a very important story) that Icke and others seem totally unaware of.

Because of a lack of direct experiences, Icke and others are unable to realize that the adepts of the Power of the Serpent (Kundalini) were directly opposed to the Illuminati's who made a pact with reptilian powers. As I explain in my articles, we were given Kundalini as a force to push back this alien intrusion. The beneficial and healing Serpent is not a reptilian entity but an innate constituent of our divine biological heritage. Speculations and researches (even researches as interesting as Icke's) cannot teach how to make the distinction. Only direct experience can.

http://forum.noblerealms.org/img/avatars/334.gif

i think were gonna see a new world get built here pretty soon.  a world of heroes, the fallen, the mutants, and all the rest.  talk about VIP tickets.  wow.  nice gift to self but waiting ringside for the main events to take place and lock in sure is consuming.

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i think were gonna see a new world get built here pretty soon

It has already begun.  This evolution is taking place through each individual and we are ascending.  Something NEW is definately here, although I do not yet know where it shall lead.  Shall the toxicity be healed?  Will the heroes begin standing up for what is truely right, and benovolent?  Time has always been Now. 

Everyone here is spectacularly hallowed, keep it up and thank you.

"Beyond the stars a new world awaits me now" - Wintersun

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From:

http://www.metahistory.org/FeedbackForum.php#FF7

(2nd #4 on page, at the bottom):

(4) You pointed out a Gnostic writing that said we encounter archons after death.. how?

How does a soul encounter a cyborg in outer space?

JLL: This gets into pretty arcane territory. I have a strong hunch that the paralemptors who assist us to disassemble our consciousness after death are benevolent Archons, involved with the conversion of Sabaoth (an episode in the Sophia myth). I have encountered such benevolent Archons in lucid dreams. They are wondrously elegant inorganic creatures, like Brancusi forms. The communicate by high-pitched clicking and keening sounds. The Russian composer Scriabin appears to have encountered or intuited these beings, and tried to capture their activity in musical form in his 10th piano sonata.

Gnostic teachings on after-death also present another scenario, called "the journey through the planetary spheres" (also described in other classical sources). This appears to be some kind of otherworld rebirth passage, comparable to the Tibetan system of bardos. As the story goes, the reincarnating soul (whatever that may be!) must pass gatekeepers in each of the planetary zones, in order to show the knowledge that allows it to advance to another lifetime, as well as to absorb the benefic effects of each planet: courage from mars, esthetic sensibility from venus, etc..

There is a clear parallel between the passage through the planetary spheres and the raising of kundalini through the seven chakras in asian yoga (Tantra Vidya, Oscar Marcel Hinze). The mystical body ritual and the cosmological rite of passage are two ways of describing the same events. Tantra teaches that the human body incorporates the structure of the entire cosmos.

This arcane and complex scenario of rebirth was inherited by underground movements such as the Rosicrucians, who made a huge affair of it. You can find it elaborated by Rudolf Steiner and his disciples such as Gunther Wachsmith, author of Reincarnation as a Phenomenon of Metamorphosis, who describes the acquisition and morphological embodiment of soul-qualities in the planetary spheres in great detail. Anthroposophist Willi Sucher taught an astrological method of tracing this process in the movement of planets during the nine months of gestation. (I practiced this method for many years, then converted it to a different format when I worked out the "astral phylogenetics" described in Quest for the Zodiac.)

The Steinerite material is not Gnostic, however. There is no mention of getting past Archons with passwords and fancy mudras (hand gestures). I can testify, however, that encounters of this kind do actually occur in out-of -the-body experiences, ludic dreaming, and astral travel, which I myself have experienced.

I am convinced that the after-death passage through the planetary spheres can be experienced before one dies... for what that's worth.

You ask how anyone can encounter Archontic cyborgs in outer space, but there is no outer space, strictly speaking. Outer space, where the planets of the solar system circulate, is also a zone of consciousness, a series of hyper-dimensional bardos or transition-zones. You can meet the Archons - who are indeed cyborgs but not entirely of solid physical substance, more like Tibetan tulpas, VR phantoms - and it happens on their own turf. This, I guess, is why they demand signs and passwords to let you pass.

The Gnostic after-death scenario borders on science fiction, of course. But who's to say there is not a lot of truth in science fiction?

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u know, this is too wondrously fascinating to set aside.  i have looked and looked and looked and cant find, but guess who had the passwords?  Bill Cooper.  and he wrote about them.  i have seen them as names. too.  of demons?  or such--which would be actual tulpas (=thought forms, been around for millennia.  we have a link on them in links).   i tried to memorize them but thought that's silly.  and then i thot well, it will come to me at the gates, when "the time" comes and then i thought how ancient and all that.  always the secret words and phrases to get past gates.  always gates.  man, too, tons of stuff to remember when u die, this is going to be real testy.  talk about being on ur toes and FOCUSED.  maybe somebody can find that old Bill C thing.  just unreal.  we have read this sort of stuff in myth and fable for centuries.  and the gates themselves.  conjured up or real?  looks like a little of both.  really something.  this is another thing we will have to get straight.  the hand gesture movement stuff sounds like Castenada's 'magic' passes thing.  we have a thread on that too, or its in one of a similar nature.  we have talked on it before.  this goes back to psi again, roundabout. 

what is striking is how the planes that these beings live on r right to the side and off and up to the left of us. (left--means "sinister" in latin) and the same to be of a source that may have birthed Sophia herself, of that nature.  off worldly sources, but these beings
seem to be related. of that tyope of genre.  from their family to ours.  like that. hmmm.
thanks for ur work, SiriArc, as always.

and this can be for lala, from the SW thread, over here, cuz im not going to be talking about him.  this is what i found today that goes with what she was saying over there.  and the others talking about such.  from THE UNIVERSE WITHIN YOU & THE COSMIC BEING
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo … ead=107192

We humans made these gods “real” and began to feel that we were subservient to them. We felt that we needed to worship them and sacrifice to them to have our desires fulfilled, something we once did for ourselves.

The more we accepted these ‘deities’ as entities external to us, the more the Phantasmal Hierarchies grew. The more we worshipped external gods, by making sacrifices and offerings to these entities – who we created and are within us – the more energy we transferred to their temporal illusory holograms, their Loka worlds. Thus the gods grew in power and in number until in the Dvapara Yuga, they began to dominate us.

Bhagavad Gita 7. 24: “… god worshippers go to the gods.”  (wow--never saw that before)

When you worship the gods, you get recycled through the myriad worlds back into human bodies lifetime after lifetime. No matter how lovely or long your visit is in a particular heaven or even as an angel, eventually your ‘merit’ runs out - and you return to incarnate here in flesh & blood to face once again the polarities of pleasure and pain.

Liberation (MOKSHA) from the perpetual cycles of rebirth is attained only through a return to the original state of Oneness with Self-ATMAN, the God-within.

In the Dvapara Yuga, we could still ‘see’ these illusions we had generated. Thus there are countless stories – what we now in our complete confusion call mythology – concerning the interaction of humans with gods and out-of-this-world beings.

When the Kali Yuga moved in on us and literally ‘cooked’ our consciousness - due to the fact that the way we experience time changes in each Yuga - most of us lost our ability to ‘see’ the myriad worlds. They are very much still with us.

originally from http://www.metaphysicalmusing.com/articles/tih.htm

so we made them real, and they made us real.  so to undo it all we have to get "unreal?"  too much.  and always leads to WIH, IMO.  this has been carried on for so many centuries but we saw thru it.  that is amazing.  thats a massive feat, since we dont buy it.  that they need more whoreship.  it grows them.  this is so carried in the human psyche.  they have vampired that in.  only renegades wouldnt accept it.  IT goes against OUR grain.  it took us to go--hey wait a minute.  we can be as powerful as them, simply by belief.  thats the key.  we have to look away from their show bizness/act.  and we have to keep working on that.  not to get literally, sucked in.  we r the 'soldiers/humans, et al' that change it.  it all makes good sense to me.  and is summed up in that Baghad quote.  there was a time when i studied the vedantas and got off of it, but i have the vedas in my notes to work on.  i think, truly that the buig oneness thing is EXACTLY that--individualized oneness and not some big bucket of a bunch of onenesses like most ppl think, even us metaphysicians.  its better than that.  so no need for any surrender.  im not submitting. im staying as a one intact.  if i can get it done.  theres much to this and its still unsolved but not 'merging' is a key somehow. and back to the recycling with the resurrected food for the moon thread.  same notion. (the soul-eater notion moon thing).

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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I've been a student of Gnosticism for over two decades, and I have found much truth in most of their teachings. What I've also  found is that all religions are enslavement inserts delivered from the Annunaki (Archons/Aeons), with Buddha, Jesus, Mohamed being major dupes. There may have been ways to escape the wheel of reincarnation, but they were closed long ago by the Annunaki. The great Gnostic Masters had their memories wiped and were re-attached to the wheel and sent back to Earth. The Archons were always one step ahaed of you.

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

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i agree with u totally.  found what u found, pretty much.  and yesirree, theyre always a step ahead, since they have the info and we're looking for it.  breaking away from accepting the old rotten decaying status quo.  thats the big difference in the timing.  the timing is getting ripe.  for its a never been done before gig.  i swear thats the deal.  and bless the fabulous gnostics since they lead the way as have some of the other true seeking factions and the mystery schoolers.  all leads are considered, and distruthers and their writings have some reasonable perception possibilities.  leaks abound.  and direct and indirect confrontations of factions reveal real good stuff.  clues in that too.  like they leak it or something or let it be known to the discerner.  (example--"u must repent, surrender, praise the lord(s), beg for forgiveness, save ur soul by prayer to god(s), give us money, accept ur sins, repent and beg and pray pray", blah blah, god, i love it.   big big leaks in there.  yeah, the gods are steps ahead, but were comin' and learning as we go. this is tied in with the ascension gig as an additional deal or it is the real deal.  its done WITH it and what a great way to weave that in.  makes it all possible and doable i guess by levening the playing field, where the states/planes of existence merge.  the levels r more equal.  accessible.  right in front of ya now.  where 'their' steps ahead will be right along side.  thats how i envision it.  big imagination yet it feels like stuff points to this.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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WHO Watches [s]the watchers[/s]:

Deep Down, IN the ocean of distortion, your perception >>>>>>> conception has been manipulated and limited by the lies of guilt, fear, pain, suffering, predation, ad nauseam ad nauseam ad nauseam;


you are as dead now as you have ever been, or ever will be.

Seth

The negative ego is dumb. It does the same things over and over.

But it‘s smarter than you.

Lazaris

Than you, BUT NOT YOU.

This  ^^^ is the foreign installation/parasite (a component of the Avatar (positive ego you) which IS(IS) being distilled and eliminated.

The Point:

This Final life-time IS The Wrap.

*** Everything You / We Do, From With-IN [s]the distortion[/s]:

From The Profound Searching/ Re-Membering, To Working Your Toes In Poughkeepsie,

All Of IT IS(IS) The Transformation,

[Totally Conceived And Supported By The YOU / THEY With-Out(Side The set]:

***Removes [s]the virus[/s] From The Precious Files Of The Living Library,

And Earth >>>>>>> Gaia >>>>>>> SO PHI A

Returns To What IT Was Before,

And Then BEYOND.


Though it seems (from With-IN) like it/they are power one step ahead sofucking”smart”kak kak kak kak kak kak kak...........

Compared With True Power, Empathy, Brilliant Design And Profound Awareness,

[s]the parasitic factor[/s] is like a tick turd mashed on the bottom of OUR Silver Shoe.



[center][size=16]Who Watches?[/size][/center]

[center]The Cross Of Changes

If you understand or if you don’t
If you believe or if you doubt
There's a universal justice
And the eyes of truth
Are always watching you.
[/center]

[center][size=16]YOU / We Do.[/size][/center]



[center][size=16]Re-Member When Darkness And Light

Were Neither

But Were Components Of A Much Greater Whole.......[/size][/center]

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There is no "ascension." That is another trap to get you looking outside of yourself laid down by the Archons. They divided the Heavens to make it look like there were "levels" to "ascend." All of it, Angels, Ascended Masters, Gods and Goddesses, Demons, Theocrats and Invisible College (and most clever ruse of all - the New Age and all its channelers - a great hoax to keep you busy looking outside - worshipping the Other - waiting for ascensions and the Space Brothers -Humanity, never realizing that the only "journey" began and ended with ourself.  All the while, They were feeding off your life essence...

And on the material plane, they set up all the systems you traverse. To keep you busy so you'd never question anything. Every emotion and feeling a ball and chain anchoring you to the earth - forgetfulness of every lifetime - lessons never learned so you'd stay in the box of the Archon's control.

And guess what else? Their supreme control device - consciousness. The Mind. Look at any chanel today: they almost without exception glorify the "mind". The mind control thoughts, feelings and emotions. Desire, sex, all the systems of the world.

So when Basilides and Marcion, and Valentinius meant to transcend was consciousness. The gnostics were hunted down and their teachings lost to history until Nag Hammadi.

We do not know who we really are. We've been cast into The Black Iron Prision and were little more than Cosmic Puppets. Who ever has ears to hear had better listen!

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.