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Re: Stewert Swerdlow radio interview

starling wrote:

LM, you're absolutely right about the way this thread has gone; Belljar posted something and Lyra gave interesting evidence about its validity. Belljar responded... then it turned into a catfight. This goes to something more important than this thread.

We are not simply logical minds exchanging information and trying to maximize strategies. We are human beings, and as such we try to form communities. This community is unusual because all of us here are deeply involved with attempting to examine and understand our own inner beings and hopefully to improve them. Doing this as a community requires that we trust both the reason and the emotional stability of the other members of the community. How can we believe anyone's insights, creativity, intuition or logic if their unstable emotions cause them to repeatedly attack other members for what are obviously false reasons?

We do have certain tools that other groups don't have. Most of us attempt to find insight into our own psyche using meditation, intuition, contacts with (hopefully) wiser beings and self-examination using procedures developed by spiritual and psychological practitioners. I have to be specific here; Lyra must do her best to find and understand what Jung called her Shadow or I for one cannot trust her contributions as a member of this forum.

Please re-read posts #1-3 at least 3 times before proceeding to post #4. (Note: post #2 is NEUTRAL. Very neutral.)

Also, Lyra is Lyra, just like Proto is Proto, and Starling is Starling, etc. We are who we are and she is who she is, take it or leave it. And if she has a shadow, then great! We all do, don't we, according to Jung, right? And if you don't trust certain members contribution, then don't. Really, it's ok to skip over their posts and read on to the others. It's that simple.


Now, let's proceed  to the Mr. Plagiarist himself, Swerdlow...

"We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves strong. The amount of work is the same."
– Carlos Castaneda

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proto wrote:

And if she has a shadow, then great! We all do, don't we, according to Jung, right? And if you don't trust certain members contribution, then don't. Really, it's ok to skip over their posts and read on to the others. It's that simple.

Now, let's proceed  to the Mr. Plagiarist himself, Swerdlow...

Thank you, Proto. smile

My shadow keeps me safe, it keeps me from letting icky people and situations too close. I want to keep my shadow. I don't want to process it, I detest Jungians and I personally think they are a bunch of boring intellectual masturbators:)   If someone told me that "You'd better process your shadow or I will disregard the potential validity of any of your future analysis," I'd smack 'em in the head. 

But that's just me. 

Move along, nothing to see here. smile

So - does anybody have experience with using Swerdlow's whole system of brown merger T bar, etc and so on, and feeling that they have become deprogrammed from it?  Did you ever have a personal session with him? I know three people who have paid for his sessions and compared notes and he told them the exact same thing - he didn't know that the three people knew each other and would be comparing notes afterwards. 

To me, this is a lot like the fake psychics I sometimes worked near at holistic festivals and so forth. I'd sit there and hear them tell the same thing to the people who came to see them instead of giving genuinely discerned psychic information unique to that person, which is what would arise if the psychic was truly accessing wisdom about that person's unique energy imprint.

What are people's impressions of his work?  Has he been able to take his source material (whether he discerned it himself or stole it from the blind woman, we dont' know, right?) and turn it into something that genuinely helps people?  I'm interested in hearing people's responses about him because he is such a key figure in the metaphysical/anti-NWO/anti-mind control community and it bears examining.

By the way, Swerdlow has a lot of "shadow." He is regularly blunt and sometimes a real jerk in his responses to people, coming off as extremely arrogant. Perhaps we should disregard him because he hasn't processed his shadow enough?  smile  If we're going to use that as a litmus test, that is, holding people up to some false standard of "perfection" before we will honor their ideas. 

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Starling, who or what gives you the right to tell Lyra what she 'must do' (or 'must not' do for that matter)? Personally, I have a mind of my own and I will use it to do what I want with it, plain and simple.  And as far as Swerdlow goes, I probably won't view his work, only because I don't want to, plain and simple.

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Swerdlow has always felt "off" to me but I never much cared to comment on it. I think David Icke was promoting Swerdlow a few years back, like around '04-'05, and I started reading his Expansions website and also ordered the Hyperspace Healer's guidebook. I was very underwhelmed by the book. It has been several years since I read it, so my memory of it is vague. There were tons of little symbols that you were meant to visualize. There was rarely an explanation of what the symbols meant, WHERE the concept came from, WHY you should use them, WHAT they really do. Always stuff like "if you have a negative thought, place a brown X over it in your mind, then flush your system with violet light, then visualize a golden triple-pronged crown above your head and a blue circle below your feet and..." very very complicated visualization excercises. I dunno... I tried it a little bit, but with a lot of this stuff, if I don't find some tangible results I have trouble sticking with it. I couldn't stick with any of Swerdlow's techniques because they felt contrived and the symbols had no personal meaning to me. It felt the same as a Christian telling me to meditate on a cross to receive total protection from all evil.... well, Swerdlow says meditate on some ultra-violet T bar or whatever, and apparently THAT will protect you and clear you out, etc. Same blind faith.

His writing is also cocky and yeah a bit blunt. His analyses of current news events on his website really ended up driving me away from his material because they got so ridiculous. Everything was "a sign" that something was "about to happen". In '05, literally a couple times a week, I remember this very clearly, he would post an article about an earthquake that had happened somewhere near the West Coast of the US. This, he would say, was a sign that "very soon" a really big quake was going to hit and totally wipe out California. He always said this in kind of a smug "don't say I didn't warn ya!" kind of writing style. Then a few days later, another post, this time an earthquake near Alaska... this is a sign of the beginning of the end, very soon now! Well, literally months passed by, and every couple days there was news about another earthquake. After a while I was joking with my girlfriend that "we should check the US Geological Survey webpage... er I mean Expansions!" Well, a couple weeks ago I decided to check in at Expansions and see if I'd missed anything after not looking at it for a couple years. And what do you know, a news item about earthquakes, a link the USGS website, and a dire prediction that soon California will be doomed! Start putting together your two years worth of food and medicine supplies and guns and anti-UFO weaponry, its all going down... next month probably!

Should we respect an individual who spreads so much fear-provoking material, who insists that an earthquake is going to wipe out the west coast "any day now!" for a period of several years??

HAHA I just checked the site today, and look at this, business as usual:

http://www.expansions.com/News.cfm
May 19, 2007
Earthquake Alert!

There are strong seismic markers this week from the Pacific Ocean off the coast of Oregon all the way down to Northern California. These indicate the possibility of a large quake in this area and residents should take precautions.

In addition, strong thermal indicators on the Northern Island of New Zealand may point to a possible volcanic event there or in the area just off the coast of the North Island. Mount Taupo should be monitored closely. Kiwis take heed.

This is nearly IDENTICAL to the kind of thing he was posting in '04 and '05, plus usually a sentence like "there's more to come soon, get ready!" or "this may be the beginning of the end for (wherever)".

And as usual, his other services are so over-priced that until I start manifesting some more material abundance they are out of my range. Paying half a months rent for an hour of some guy's time always feels pretty ridiculous, and to hear that he gave three people identical information in their readings makes me feel very cynical.

Sometimes I wish a healer was so confident in his technique that he would just charge something reasonable like $30 for an hour, and attract a bunch more people, particularly impoverished folks who are more apt to NEED some healing and not just this insular world of MLM New Age Bizness Professionals paying each other hundreds of dollars for self-congratulating "workshops". The fact that the people who truly need healing cannot AFFORD these modalities is a sign to me that such techniques may very well be devoid of any true spiritual value. I suppose we are all meant to heal ourselves anyway and not rely on others but man it makes me cynical after a while..

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Thr333tim3,

Thank you for your info, it confirms some things that I have "sniffed" around Swerdlow's stuff. 

He teaches that there is a whole language of hyperspace which he supposedly has access to, and teaches people to overlay their bodies, chakras, etc. with a bunch of symbols.

Which seems like more programming to me.  The divine doesn't need symbols.  Whenever you hook into a symbol, you plug into the entire history of human thought and action and karma associated with that symbol.

Some of the symbols he's using seem very Atlantean to me, and there was a LOT of mixed stuff going on back then.  I'd be very careful about welcoming those into your system.

Also, in my personal research, which is actually building to a big dramatic level at this point with a (SHH!) book I'm working on, in Reiki healing in particular the big problem is inserting symbols into the chakras and aura, which limit the natural flow of energy for that person. A group of healers from around the world are sharing their info with me about how the symbols (Reiki or other symbols) can get lodged in the chakras and create severe energy blocks for people.  This includes the Christian cross, which I myself am working on removing from some deeply-embedded points on myself and on others.  The cross is a symbol of the "blood sacrifice/satanic" aspects of the Christian church. The cross has nothing to do with Jesus' energy.  You can invoke help or guidance from Jesus without using a cross and receive less diluted information and energy.

Anyway, I think you're right, replacing whatever programming we've already got going on with another layer of ugaboo/yada yada/more symbols/business as usual is just inviting mind control of a different type.  So tread carefully with Swerdlow's stuff.

I found when I had my counselling and healing practice that I offered about 30% of my work for free, about another 30% on a sliding scale, and the remaining amount was at a "normal" counsellor's price. (Even then, I was only charging $90 per hour, not the $400 per hour that psychiatrists working in the same building downstairs charged.)

But interestingly enough, I experienced the most vampiric energy drain from the people who either got free sessions or who paid on the low end of the sliding scale. It's like money and energy go together.  If you don't have money, there may be other issues in your life about not being able to maintain and generate enough chi in your life, which in turn can make you (unintentionally) a leech when you receive services from others.

There really needs to be an equal exchange of energy - there really should never be a free ride. Accepting too much draining from people, out of a sincere desire to help people in dire circumstances, made me very physically sick and pretty much f***ed up my whole life for several years.

So please realize that it's naive to think you can get something of quality for nothing.  At least in this human arena, where none of us are angels yet, and living a 100% STO life just isn't possible if we want to maintain these bodies we're living in. (Which contain polarity - shadow and light. We NEED our shadows. )

Sometimes you can offer someone goods or services in the form of something besides money, and that allows a balanced exchange to take place. But realistically, there was a limit to how much of that I could accept from people when I was doing my healing work in private practice.  I mean, there's a limit to how many times I need my car washed or whatever else people offered to do smile 

Money allows healers to pay the rent and support themselves. And healers have human needs.

We're okay with paying doctors (who often fill our bodies with poisons) hundreds of dollars per visit. (That's what our insurance carriers are usually paying them, even if we only pay a $20 copay for the actual visit.) 

Healers NEED our support, not just financially, but on an energy level.  And healers are usually already operating at an energy deficit, dealing with a lot of crap on a worldly level.

I ask people this - would YOU realistically maintain a business that did the following:

1) Caused you to receive regular death threats

2) Attracted lots of people who wanted and expected free services because they equate being a spiritual person with "you need to be giving this away."

3) Caused you to have to deal with massive amounts of nastiness from people in related professions, some of whom would try to sue you or spread lies about your work (which happens to many holistic healers when they talk to "traditional" medical people or try to educate their clients about nontraditional healing modalities -- sometimes the doctors are so threatened that they go after the healer.)

4) Never allowed you to charge what you were really worth in terms of time, energy, education, experience, and expertise, because the prevailing thoughtform about what your services were worth financially was very low?

This is what I dealt with for ten years and almost every other holistic healer I've known has dealt with the same or worse on a constant basis.  And also earning not enough money to put up with that s**t, I'll tell you now.

So while it's true that sometimes people can't afford the holistic services that they might benefit from, c'mon.  Too often we deal with people who literally can't afford $9.00 for a book or a reading or a healing session.  And at some point, it's less about what we're charging and more about the fact that that person has some serious issues about money and being a responsible adult that were going on long BEFORE they encountered the holistic healer.  And perhaps they should resolve those and not expect a free ride.

I don't mean to sound harsh, and I agree with you that people like Swerdlow are often in the stratosphere with their fees. $995 for a deluxe package of ANYTHING is bizarre and unreasonable.

But having been on the front lines and seen what I and other healers have gone through (and are still going through,)  I wanted to raise a counterpoint here in this thread about some of the other factors healers are dealing with that many people' don't take into account.  And any one of the factors I mentioned above, if you're going to be experiencing that on a constant basis while you maintain your business, are terrible, energy draining, spiritually exhausting things.

And holistic healers deal with them ALL THE TIME.

Even so, most holistic healers charge much less than a session with a traditional therapist. 

Lots of "disconnect" going on here on all levels about perceived value of holistic services, and it's unfortunate.

(I don't mean to single you out, thr33tim3, but I think you get where I'm coming from.  It's all about balance. $995 is an insane amount to charge, but expecting services for free isn't exactly realistic, either, unless you have a family member or a novice/apprentice healer who genuinely feels great about giving their services away for free. Most massage schools, for instance, will offer heavily discounted massages from the students because the students need to get in a certain amount of massages to get their certification. So sometimes that can be a great way to get discounted services that still have some quality to them.  Overall, though, it's best to be skeptical of healers who are pricing themselves too low. They're often beginners without much experience, which sometimes can be a bad thing if you have a complex condition.)

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

PS Didn't mean to come off as a b**tch in this post.  If the shadow is strong today, know that I don't mean to slime anybody in this thread!  I'm just playing contrarian.  smile

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Hey LM, didn't feel singled out or that you were being b--tchy, so no worries there. smile I feel this is a valid issue and I'm glad its getting discussed.

So while it's true that sometimes people can't afford the holistic services that they might benefit from, c'mon.  Too often we deal with people who literally can't afford $9.00 for a book or a reading or a healing session.  And at some point, it's less about what we're charging and more about the fact that that person has some serious issues about money and being a responsible adult that were going on long BEFORE they encountered the holistic healer.  And perhaps they should resolve those and not expect a free ride.

This was the only part of your post where I went "urgh, is that maybe ME?" smile I am not in such bad shape that I cannot afford some books or tools or a session of some sort now and then. However I know that the frustration I voice may sound like "why can't I just have everything for free???" and I know it is all about energy exchanged and I have no expectations of a free lunch.

My frustration is this, and I guess I'll just be candid about my own life situation here. After I graduated with my BS degree (it stands for Bachelor of Sciences, but it *feels* like BS to me..) in Information Technology in '01, I spent over a year looking for work with the big consulting firms that I had studied about in school and planned to get involved with. Well, the job field was so bad that all my leads went nowhere, and I ended up just living with my parents looking for local wage work, ended up working in a garden store for $10/hr. After four months of this I couldn't stand it so I was able to find a place to go to school on the other side of the country, this time in Digital Media Production. So I moved, did two years of school (during which time i underwent my big "paradigm shifting" experiences of waking up to all this global madness and spirituality), but found myself alienated from all my peers (too "far out", got called a "space cadet", etc) and again with zero job leads when I graduated. Since then, it has been two years of working various full- and part-time jobs in coffee shops, bookstores, record stores, offices, again all for no more than $11/hr and often more like $8.50/hr. The city got so expensive that we just couldn't do it anymore, so we moved out to the country where the rent is a lot cheaper but it still took us about four months to find work, and once again.... here I am working 19 hours a week in a computer lab for about $13 an hour, teaching a few Computer Science courses on the side for extra money, and trying to advertise my computer-help house call & tutoring service locally for outside gigs. And if I sound like I'm fed up and annoyed, to be honest I am truly grateful and relieved that we have been able to get our lives together to this point! We had to work really hard to not be discouraged, I am shortening this story to the extreme because I know its not that interesting, but every day was a struggle against a lot of depression and hurt feelings, and we used a lot of meditation and healing techniques just to help us maintain and not feel totally hopeless, just to help us get up again and keep looking for work, keep making phone calls, keep trying. Of course I have been criticized on this board for "trying too hard" and you can imagine how that makes my blood boil. smile

What the hell is my point? smile There is a whole generation of folks my age (mid-late 20s) who are having a hell of a time finding any decent employment that would even empower them to move away from home. I have cousins who are still living with their parents, working out of the house, and the NY Times has been talking about this for a few years, this new generation of kids who are still living with their parents up into even their early 30s!! Well, that was definitely not an option for me, so I have been out on my own. But I am living on a wage that is similar to what I was paid for summer jobs when I was in highschool, and certainly not reflective of having two degrees (and yes I know academics is BS, but the $$$ is no joke, so how about a return on THAT energy investment??).

I guess I just feel as though I am frustrated and unsure how to create a better financial situation for myself. We have job-hunted constantly, we network with people we meet, we follow up on opportunities that arise, but we are still just working these boring hourly-wage jobs that barely enable us to pay rent. It is about $1000 a month to pay rent and utilities out here (it was often $300+ more in the city, for a place half as big!), and I have been pulling in about $1800/mo for the past few months (I've never made this much before, its actually really exciting for me). So that's $800 I have left per month to spend on groceries, gas, and any other incidentals, *before* I can think "ok, what do I have left that I can spend on books and spiritual things?" I have had scoliosis in my spine causing me chronic pain all day every day for the past few years, and only in the last month have I finally been able to commit to some bodywork which is costing me $100 a session for 12 sessions, once every 2 weeks. I am so grateful and relieved that I am finally able to do this for myself, I feel a certain degree of success in achieving this.

Anyway, I feel as though "I have serious issues with money" and although I am trying (eek!) to be "a responsible adult", it is not particularly getting me anywhere professionally. The amount of energy and effort I have put out does not feel even slightly proportionate to what I have gotten back. It has been a constant struggle. Of course I meditate every day and I focus on gratitude for what I have, and I am able to find peace in the present moment. Yes! That is why I never lose hope. So I don't want to just sound like a big whiner. I am still very pro-active every day, and I BELIEVE that I can create a better situation for myself! I am really more confused than anything else. I am willing and able to continue living in this low-income lifestyle indefinitely! But I think it is reasonable for me to want better opportunities, to be more professional, to help people more directly and more efficiently, and to be able to make at least $20 an hour. That is why it is so brain-bending to me that healers can charge $150 for a one-hour reading, thats more than I make in a FULL DAY here, and this is by no means "easy work". I don't even know that I necessarily *need* the healing services of ANYONE, I prefer to believe that I CAN heal myself through my own efforts, but it frustrates me that so often these services are made to seem very helpful if not *vital*, and then all I can say is "well, no way can I afford that THIS month..."

I'm going to get flamed now for "making it a struggle" and "trying too hard" and "not ALLOWING abundance to exist in my life", right? wink

Tim

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Oh yeah, you're totally right though that healers do charge less than allopathic doctors and mainstream therapists, I mean $400 an hour is insanity on ANOTHER level! smile I even think it is totally valid that the healer may very well DESERVE exactly what they are charging! My frustration is my total inability to afford such services, and that the work I am doing is apparently NOT important enough to get paid more than $13 an hour for.
Tim

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Tim,

I feel your pain. That whole "just out of school dealing with your twenties" time is SO tough. And I'm only in my thirties, but it was easier for my generation.  The cost of living has gone up so much that it's crazy.  And it's easy to be stuck in those retail/restaurant type jobs, where at least you can have a couple of them at the same time, but they still don't really pay the bills. 

With your computer knowledge, why not try affiliate marketing of products online?  Internet marketing (both of your own products or of other companies' products) can be very lucrative. 

Check out this great forum about Internet marketing:  http://www.warriorforum.com.  I post there a lot as Cosmokid. 

There is a huge range of people posting there -- a lot of newbies but also more experienced Internet marketers who are doing very well.

Check out a technique called Bum Marketing.  Search for it at the forum and read every post by a man named Travis. He outlines some very simple techniques for taking a free blogger.com blog (you don't even need a full website of your own) and setting it up in certain ways geared toward selling products as an affiliate.  And also read up on affiliate marketing. Basically, that's just signing up as an affiliate with either an individual company or an affiliate network to sell different products.  If you dont' manage to sell any, no biggie. If you do, you get commission checks. Sometimes monthly, sometimes every other week.

With your skills, I'll bet you could be doing very well with this. And you can poke at it a few hours a week and start seeing results if you apply yourself.

If I can be of help with more info, email me. 

Best,

LM aka Jennifer

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Holy synchronicity 101 Batman! HA! thr33tim3 I am a person in my late 20's who is experiencing this same problem. To the minute that you posted this I'm in the middle of a big broil with my parents regarding what my "next step is going to be" because: "Pensions won't be what they used to when you get old and you have to go for the big corporate money while you still can" Urrgh. It just got cold in here. sad I work in government and live paycheck to paycheck, but I actually have a JD and still can't get hired in some places because I am "overqualified." or my degree is not specific enough to the job they are hiring for.

So dedicating 14 years of my life to learn how to be a robot and work my ass off academically does not prove to you that I can handle reasoning intelligently, writing well and relating in a professional way to other people-- which is all jobs are anyway!

I've tried to explain to people that all I really want to do is work at a simple admin asst. job 9-5 just enough to pay my bills and be OK. I don't need to live in a 3million dollar apt. in Soho thank you very much and don't plan to have children since I can't afford it [!] Nor do I think I'd be a good parent since I can barely get my own stuff together roll

I also have over 100K of loans to pay back Haha. I went to lawschool having been told that I'd be better off when I came out but I am still poor. Right now as we speak I am working on a policy project regarding the school loan scandal and how much people get into debt after school even though school was supposed to make them self sufficient and functioning members of society!

Sorry if I went off topic.

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Shoogie and Tim,

*HUGS*

You're both such unique and tuned-in people. It shows all over your posts. There must be something cool you can offer the world in terms of your unique gifts and talents that you could even charge an hourly fee for.

When I went from "grunt" jobs to doing my own thing with my healing practice (actually, I mostly worked as an actress first, but that didn't pay very well and had to be supplemented with the grunt jobs) ....it was quite interesting to set a dollar price for my time.  Suddenly I didn't have to be held to some artificial construct like, "You're only worth 10$ an hour."  I decided I was worth $50 an hour right off the bat.  And before the energy draining got bad from my clients, it was wonderful!  Especially since I could give myself a raise whenever I wanted to.

So don't rule out doing your own thing.

There's a famous Internet marketer in the UK named Sara Brown who spent years having her family bombard her with the usual "You need a JOBBBB it's the only thing that's SECUREEEE ...PENSION PENSION PENSION."  They truly thought that because she was doing work they didn't understand, she was some kind of terrorist or something:)  Meanwhile, she was quietly doing launches of various products that brought in five figures a pop.

Well, she recently mentioned in one of her newsletters that these same two family members (My guess would be she's talking about her parents) BOTH just got suddenly laid off....and since they're older, it's going to be very hard for them to FIND A JOBBBBB....and POOF, there goes SECURITYYYYY (which is an illusion, anyway.)  So now she's in the position of trying to teach them how to be self-sufficient, and it's all been quite humbling for those family members.

Try to ignore the societal conditioning and find your OWN path amidst the weird messages you receive from "adults." They don't know nothin'!

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In a Dark Time

By Theodore Roethke

( this is a lead in to a post I am working on)

In a dark time, the eye begins to see,
I meet my shadow in the deepening shade;
I hear my echo in the echoing wood--
A lord of nature weeping to a tree,
I live between the heron and the wren,
Beasts of the hill and serpents of the den.

What's madness but nobility of soul
At odds with circumstance? The day's on fire!
I know the purity of pure despair,
My shadow pinned against a sweating wall,
That place among the rocks--is it a cave,
Or winding path? The edge is what I have.

A steady storm of correspondences!
A night flowing with birds, a ragged moon,
And in broad day the midnight come again!
A man goes far to find out what he is--
Death of the self in a long, tearless night,
All natural shapes blazing unnatural light.

Dark,dark my light, and darker my desire.
My soul, like some heat-maddened summer fly,
Keeps buzzing at the sill. Which I is I?
A fallen man, I climb out of my fear.
The mind enters itself, and God the mind,
And one is One, free in the tearing wind.

If we are always arriving and departing, it is also true that we are eternally anchored. Ones destination is never a place,but rather a new way of looking at things. Henry Miller
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http://www.expansions.com wrote:

His great-uncle, Yakov Sverdlov, was the first president of the Soviet Union, and his grandfather helped form the Communist Party in the United States in the 1930s. To ensure that his loyalties stayed with the US government, he was "recruited" for specific government mind-control experiments which enhanced his natural abilities.

He spent years in service to various US and foreign government agencies and special interest groups. His mind and body were used for genetic and mind-control experiments which led to severe illness, broken relationships, and premature Kundalini activation

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lol

  • Registered: 2006-03-10

Re: Stewert Swerdlow radio interview

Only here for a minute today and probably not around this weekend, wanted to stop back and check this thread. Thanks LM for your thoughtful response, I was actually totally in my mind thinking about "I wonder if there is some sort of internet marketing I could get involved with... I don't know anything about it... where do you even start learning about it...?" and it looks like the Warrior Forum is a great place to learn all about it! smile How helpful. This place is like group therapy for me sometimes. smile A lot of folks around my age are definitely having a tough time, so I would advise anyone else here who is going through similar things to definitely have the perspective that it is something we are ALL working on right now and not feel like you are a big loser or anything. It takes a lot of work and patience, and yeah my school totally was telling me I'd have NO PROBLEM when I got out, tons of jobs to pick from, I don't even want to mention what sort of wage they were insisting we'd be able to make our first year out of school..... oooh, those big liars! smile Shoogie I have had the same thoughts as you about these issues, for sure! I like your user icon too, Mononoke Hime was a beautiful film.

Sedna, when you said Yakov Swerdlow, I totally read it as Yakov Smirnov and for a moment I was stunned that Stewart Swerdlow was related to that goofy russian comic from the 80s! big_smile "In Soviet Russia, kundalini activates YOU!"

Tim

  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: Stewert Swerdlow radio interview

lol       Wow, he said that?  Unbelievable. (Try to get a sense that I sound like Father Guido Sarducci for

effect. If you even know who that is.  Maybe I could drum up a recording. )