1 (edited by Graycat101 2007-05-15 20:20:32)

Topic: Scary memory resurfaces. Crisis of conscience follows.

Before i tell this story i want to openly acknowledge that this may well have little to do with Aliens/ Matrix theories or concepts. I do not know what happened and maybe there is a completely different explanation. In my desperation to reconcile an experience that i do not comprehend perhaps i am overreaching or not looking in the right area for some kind of answer or understanding. My apologies in advance if folks feel this post is inappropriate.


A few days ago i overheard a couple of 10yo kids talking about one of their classmates who got a blood nose during school. Whilst i was listening/ eavesdropping, i had a full force and vivid recollection of an event that had happened to me many years ago. I was stunned and alarmed to remember the incident and feel all of the negative feelings that i associate with it. I was also alarmed to observe the manner in which i had avoided giving this matter any real attention for so long and recognised that those same negative feelings have swum around inside of me at some subconcious, inner level ever since.

Anyway, let me blurt out what happened. Make of it what you will.

I went to a party in the city. It was held at the house of my cousin. I had not seen her or her older sister for many years so in some ways it was a bit of a reunion. It was a Friday night and the older sister was working at a local pub/ bar as a waitress. Her shift finished at midnight and it was her intention to walk to the party after work. ( approx 15 min walk ). So it was my plan to leave the party at 11:40 and meet her and basically walk her home. When the time came i confirmed the directions to the bar/ pub with her younger sister ( the hostess ) and took off.
I should point out that i had only just got my driver's licence and had to borrow a car to get to the party. I also had scored a spot in the very lucrative Saturday morning shift at work and had to be at work early the next day. Therefore i was not drinking alcohol/ taking any drugs or anything like that. Parking in that part of the city was terrible, especially on a Friday night. I had to park the car several streets away and did'nt like my chances of finding another spot later, which is why i walked to meet my cousin.
Anyway, i remember leaving the house and looking back over my shoulder at the party. I was wondering what the neighbours were thinking about all the noise etc. I looked back up ahead to some distant traffic lights where i knew i had to make a left turn.....
.... The next thing i can remember is that i was sitting in the driver's seat of the car. It was parked a couple of hundred metres away in the opposite direction from where i was last heading. My vision was all blurry and weird and i was blinking a lot and shaking my head trying to clear it. I felt disorientated. I looked over to the digital clock on the dashboard just in time to see it click over to exactly 6 am. This is the time i had told myself earlier i would have to leave in order to arrive at work on time if i ended up staying the night at my cousins house. Where had the last 6 hours gone? I was confused and vague but i did not feel any sense of panic. That happened next when i looked at myself in the rear view mirror.
My face and neck were sprayed with dried blood. Literally sprayed. Definitely blood. Like someone had dipped a big paintbrush and then flicked it forcefully into my face. As you can imagine, i freaked out completely. I frantically began searching my body for injury. My hands, my face, arms, legs everything. I jumped out of the car and started tearing my clothes off looking for some wound that i could not feel. I found nothing. Not a bruise, a scratch, a cut. I checked my hands again. No marks of any kind. No pain anywhere either. I looked again in the mirror to check my face and noticed 2 things that were really strange, on top of all this strangeness. Firstly, none of the blood was smudged. It had dried and i had not wiped it from my lips, nostrils, eyelids etc. Also, the blood on my throat stopped suddenly in a horizontal line around my neck. Near my " Adam's apple ". It really stood out now that i had my shirt off, like a line of sunburn. The effect was like i had been wearing a smock/ cape like thing with a collar or maybe like looking over the edge of a fence or something before being sprayed? I checked my shirt and other clothes and there was not one single bit of blood on them anywhere. No drops/ flecks/ smudges. How could that be? I checked myself and my clothing over and over again and i could not find a single clue to what had transpired. No rips or tears, no dirty scuffs, no stains. No blood on clothes or shoes. My keys/ wallet/ money was all still in my pockets. I was really distressed by this point and kind of pacing around in circles and crying. I just could not digest the information. Nothing made sense. Still does'nt.
Eventually i got dressed again and used my t-shirt and spit to scrub the blood off. I drove to work in a complete daze and remember little of the trip at all. I was really spaced out when i arrived and just sat in the car for a while. Eventually someone came out to the parking lot and asked me what i was doing. I did'nt really know what to say. I went in and tried to do my work but i felt like a slow, rusty old robot. Numb and dumb. I got nothing done. After a little while i remembered my cousins and panicked all over again. I rang them and i am glad to say the eldest one made it home to the party ok. They told me that the night before they had been concerned at first, once they realised i was'nt with either of them. In the end they assumed that i must of decided to have a beer or 17 at a bar while i was waiting and maybe got silly drunk or " picked up " or something..... When i said i could'nt remember what happened they laughed and said i must of had a very good time then. I did'nt tell them about the blood etc...i felt terrible that i had not thought of their welfare straight away and was just relieved that they were alright. They said also that there was no trouble at the party and things went smoothly.
I did confide in some other people in the following couple of days. I showed these other people my now stained t-shirt in an effort to validate my weird story, however no one seemed to take me seriously despite my distress. Which is to say that they seemed to reach for the easiest and most simplistic conclusion despite the evidence that i felt was to the contrary.

"Clearly you got pissed and got in to a fight. You must of won. Now chill out and change the channel will you?...."  or " yeah that seems a bit strange. Want a cup of tea? " type of thing. Totally dismissive and not interested. I don't really know what anybody could have said but i did'nt find these responses very helpful and they just compounded my feelings of estrangement and isolation. As my personal self- doubt/ fear/ guilt/ confusion/ paranoia etc began to grow it was'nt too long before i stopped talking to people about it and really withdrew. I did not go to the police. I must be fair and admit that i was greatly troubled by the thought that perhaps i had hurt somebody. I still am. Things still don't add up in that particular scenario but the blood had to come from somewhere .......did'nt it?

Like most people i have had many experiences that have challenged, changed, and rocked the boat of my beliefs and perceptions. Fell down, got up again. Been amazed, been scared. Won some, lost some. Seen, heard and felt plenty of weird shit. Rolled along as best as i could. This is really testing me though, somewhere deep. I can't feel the way to approach it or deal with it.


Did i hurt someone?

That thought is just.....crippling me.

Re: Scary memory resurfaces. Crisis of conscience follows.

Intense, intense, I can't offer much, but that is intense. Maybe someone else here will have an idea... I hesitate to inquire but I wonder if your gender would have anything to do with it.  I was unable to deduce this information from the provided text.  Whether or not you may have inflicted any pain on another person is irrelevant in my opinion.  Pinpointing what exactly happened overall would take precedence in my mind.  Just a thought.

..:never submit---

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///..........""This is really testing me though, somewhere deep. I can't feel the way to approach it or deal with it.""..........its your time to take the shadowic journey.....its just your time/namaste

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The fact that you can't let go of this would probably mean that there is something much more sinister lurking behind it than just I got drunk and got in a fight. Maybe you did get drunk some humans took advantage of you in a military, occult or sexual way. Or you have been being abducted your whole life by ETs and they left you for dead. These things can look so similar on the outside. A lot of people end up going to a hypnotist to get the subconscious memories out.

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That's really spooky. 

The only thing I can think of would be for you to try seeing a hypnotherapist and doing some sort of memory regression... or if you're into dowsing you could try asking a pendulum questions about the experience.  I'm not quite sure what the best way to recover memories is, but I'd sure like to find out.  Maybe now that you're conscious of the experience, you can set your focus/intention towards drawing in those memories.  I don't know if that would be via some sort of meditation on the experience (I don't even know what that means, haha - don't meditate much myself but I'm thinking of starting)..  or if it would be something you're focusing on to draw the appropriate 'memory triggers' to you.

Interesting story!  Best of luck figuring out what happened.

6 (edited by Shoogie 2007-05-16 07:06:59)

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Graycat101,

Do you still have the t-shirt? Because maybe you could have the blood type tested and that way at least know whether it was yours or... ....Don't wash it either, so you have proof. Take a picture of the bloody t-shirt. Please try to document as much hard evidence as possible because as time passes you may convince yourself that it was all a dream.

My People Were Fair And Had Sky In Their Hair...But Now They're Content To Wear Stars On Their Brows

-Tyrannosaurus rex

7 (edited by calpamu 2007-05-16 07:49:19)

Re: Scary memory resurfaces. Crisis of conscience follows.

How long ago was this?

Did you check the newspaper records of the time and place of any unusual events taking place that night?

Are you quite sure it was blood?

As you were abstaining from alcoholic drinks, did you drink anything at the party before you left that may have been spiked?

You could have walked into something , had a non-bruising nose bleed, procured a slight concussion  and have no concious recollection of actually walking to and entering the car to pass out,were your subconcious knew to go to ride it out?

Do you bleed easily, profusely?

Re: Scary memory resurfaces. Crisis of conscience follows.

Definitely a scary incident. Want some tea?
Just kidding. Maybe the event was so tramautic you've placed a shield on it, obviously so frightened you had to do so to retain your sanity.
While I would say "meditate on this", I think that without a proper guide you could easily lose yourself in your fear. Hypnotherapy may work, but first you have to overcome your guilt before the truth will come to light. Most of all, you have to trust the person guiding you through this tramautic experience. If you don't feel comfortable with the person, do not do it. This is a tough situation, but you'll get through it.

"Don't eat any wooden nickels."

9 (edited by Graycat101 2007-05-17 17:22:31)

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A general response to cover some of the practical questions/ comments....

I am a male. 6"2'. The incident happened 10 years ago but seems like it happened last week. I watched the news/ papers  etc but did not see anything that seemed related. As i mentioned i did not contact the police so perhaps i missed an opportunity there to learn something. After about a week i got rid of the shirt. It was unnerving to look at and to be honest i just did'nt know where to put it. I did'nt really want it anywhere near me because i did'nt want to remember. As for the blood, this is what i have deduced....

Was it actually real blood? I am not a medical expert with a lab so i can only go with personal experience..... i have plenty of scars/ stitches etc..... it sure seemed like the real thing. Could it have been animal blood or something? Maybe.... but it certainly was'nt strawberry jam!

The blood was not splashed. It was not concentrated in any one area. It was a reasonably even spray pattern. It was like a person with an even spread of freckles. Imagine all those freckles were small drops of blood that had tails like a comet. The tails were about an inch long on average which gave the impression that the blood had impacted at a reasonable velocity. The direction of the tails suggested to me that the source was from somewhere below the level of my chin. This is also part of the reason that i don't think it could be my blood aside from the lack of injury. Unless i had a mouthful and blew it into a strong headwind?? But then...why no blood on my clothes??? The straight line on my neck??

The only evidence and memories i have regarding the drunken fight scenario leans towards something other than this as a solution. I have a strong reputation for avoiding violence. I don't like it and i don't do it. The few fights i have been in have taught me (amongst other things ) that it is nothing like Hollywood. I have never walked away from a serious altercation without some kind of physical evidence. If you get punched in the mouth you WILL feel it later. If you punch someone repeatedly in the face you WILL feel it in your hands later. Getting that amount of blood on me but none on my clothes does'nt help to make this a viable possibility either.

I was not drinking alcohol but i did drink some fruit juice or something. Was it spiked? Hmm don't know. How to tie that in with the other weird stuff.....


On a slightly seperate vein i would like to comment that remembering and reliving this experience is in some ways something that i have actively tried to do. I have made a deliberate effort to review some things from my past/ memory whatever and this is by no means the only bizarre thing that has surfaced in recent times.
Situations such as seeing my mother drive past as i walk home from school and 15 mins later when i get home she is dressed differently. I ask her why she did'nt pick me up and she points out that her boyfriend took the car to work. She insists that she did'nt leave the house. I am bewildered. What do i believe? I had no evidence such as a bloody shirt for any of those other types of  " matrix glitch " experiences. In that respect this incident stands out a little bit.
Questioning my feelings of self doubt and guilt as well as my reaction? to more positive orientated experiences such as premonitions/ telepathy etc has brought many strange things to my concious mind and they are coming thick and fast. In an ironic manner one of the other things that i have remembered involved my only brush with hypnotherapy ..... and it too revealed a great insight as to how such things like guilt have had a great effect on me. I am going to relay this experience although it may only be related in my own mind and is perhaps only important/ relevant to me. Touches on guilt and hypnotherapy in an obvious way as well. And then i am going to stop posting because...well.....everyone has strange stuff and this is'nt a forum for me to just keep spouting all MY stuff!

I was down in the dumps and could'nt snap out of it. My parents had made a new friend a few months earlier and suggested i go and see him. Unsure of what he actually " did " i gave him a call and he suggested i come over. I had met him a few times and liked him. Nice guy. Here's what happened, and it was years ago too btw...
Basically i laid down and we chatted. Did a few visualisation exercises and then got me to think about being somewhere pleasant. I like water so i imagined i was at a nice little lake with a little waterfall, sun, grass and animals etc.... then he asked me to think about something that bothered me from when i was little. I do remember him specifying that it should be something " middle sized " in terms of how it upset me. Not little and inconsequential, not the great big stuff either. Just significant. He then asked me if i knew what i wanted to remember and i said yes. He then prompted me to " retrieve that memory now ".
I was not prepared for what happened next.
The effect was similar to imagining someone standing over me and slamming a ...watermelon or something? as hard as they could into my stomach. The convulsion was so powerful that i nearly kneed myself in the face and i think i may have actually come off the couch by a couple of inches. At the same time the tears that left my eyes in that moment splashed across my legs like half a cup of water. I clutched my stomach and kind of made a great big " ooooooooof !!! " sound. For the next 30-60 seconds i cried in a way that i did not know was possible. So deep and complete.
The guy was quick to jump over and reassure me. He reminded me that i did not want to overdo it and hurt myself and that this was enough for now. He kept talking to me gently and i soon calmed down and regained some sort of normal demeanour and he basically just let me lie there for a little while trembling and panting. Really powerful stuff. I had not even articulated the thought out aloud. I just remembered and relived it. I went back in my mind and was " there " again.

Want to know what the memory was? Not much to do with aliens though i am afraid. Much more simplistic than that.

I remembered being 2-3 years old. I went in to the bathroom and my mother was getting out of the shower and i saw her standing there naked. I pointed to the area below her belly button and asked her " what is that? ". There was a large scar there. I had been born by Caesarean section and she explained to me how such things happen. After a few seconds of digesting this i reached out and grabbed guilt for maybe the first time. I just stood there bawling my eyes out and saying over and over... " i did that to you? i did that to you mummy?".
Of course she hugged me and kissed me and told me that she loved me and that it was all ok. She told me that she was happy and would do it all over again and that it was really quite a good thing because maybe one of us could have died....

I " understood " this intellectually but this did not alleviate emotional/ internal reaction. Little clue there no?

After i left this guy's house i felt incredibly buoyant and happy. A really dramatic change. Unfortunately this guy would die before i got to see him again. He was a Freemason too btw. I remember noticing his compass/ t-square ring when i shook his hand to leave. Not that it is/was important to the thrust of this story but funny the little things you can associate.....

How an experience like this could also slip away from my mind only to return later is a bit of a concern for me.

Memory. Emotions. Reality. So many things that just seem to open endless " cans of worms ". Like everyone eh?;)

Thanks to all for your acceptance. smile

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At the end of the session did the hypnotist suggest that you remember everything during the session? I'm asking because if he didn't he might have installed a post-hypnotic command to make it easier to put you under again and you got "triggered" after the party. I've had some experience with hypnosis and I know you don't automatically remember everything that happens when you're under even if you think you do, especially if you're one of those people who respond to hypnosis well (which, from your description, you are). I also don't trust Masons and you having "strange stuff" could be ongoing hypnotic programming.

Blood doesn't usually spray unless you cut an artery or drop a body from a height. If it was a person there probably would have been something in the papers. You were alone walking from the party, you had hours of missing time, you were previously hypnotized by a member of a group that engages in occult practices. Just a guess, but to me it sounds like you were a hypnotically-programmed participant in some kind of animal sacrifice.

If this happened as you described I'd say you should find a professional hypnotherapist and try to recover the memory.

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.

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What you are saying Starling is pretty reasonable with the exception that what occurred with the hypnosis session happened a couple of years after the original " blood " incident. So it is kind of inconveniently the wrong way around. The hypnotist did suggest i remember everything. I think?:(

However i look at it, things don't add up and don't seem right. I have considered seeing another hypnotherapist but i guess i am just...plain old scared and apprehensive. I get that disheartening sense of having to get the surgery to correct the surgery which was to repair the surgery......when i just want to stop messing with it!

Again, thanks for comments. It really helps.

12 (edited by calpamu 2007-05-18 03:17:48)

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There are obviously things going on in your life that are outside of what most people concider the "Norm".
Depending on how this effects you in the following weeks, months, if there is any oppertunity of help from a safe, outside source I would grab it, if the issue does not disipate of itself and cause you no more trauma or worry.
You are ofcourse aware of how these types of incidences can effect you on another level and are perhaps best dealt with once they have become manifest.
Perhaps you have now recollected and are writting on this very forum board because this needs to be dealt with and not discarded and put to the back of your mind.

Although I have no doubt that there are many unexplained incidences that have and are occuring in your life,
one other possible explaination,from within our "reality or illusion", is that you were spiked at the place you were on route to and someone is messing with your head, by painting your face with whatever it might have been.

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Last night i was at my father's house and answered the phone. It was the cousin i had gone to meet and walk home. We have not spoken in some time and she was trying to find me via my dad.

That's a rather timely coincidence would'nt you say??

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That's rather timely I would say smile