Sex (Page 2 of 2)

Their theory sounds well and good, but......what about birds, for instance, who have their specific mating times, and where the male has to court the female and it's all quite obvious and set.  Male birds stick around with the females and help to jointly raise the young after the eggs are laid...despite there not being "hidden ovulation" to sort of bait/trick them into hanging around.  So I don't necessarily buy anthropologist's theory about "hidden ovulation" helping to ensure that the human male will stay.   Which leads to this point:

Yup!  I think human's have been tinkered with in a massive way and maybe it explains why we're different from the rest of the animal kingdom.   I'm wondering how many other creatures on this planet have "hidden ovulation" cycles, like humans?   And, are up for doing the deed, every day of the month the way many humans are?  Does anybody out there know?   Humans are supposed to be relatively unique in the sense that we'll have sex despite it not being that time of the month to get pregnant.   Humans do it purely out of horniness, which isn't the norm within the animal kingdom.  With the exception of some other primate species, the bonobo being one, which you mentioned.

Bonobos are also the closest primate to humans out of the whole primate family.   So I'm wondering if humans were created with the base genetics of the bonobo?  (Going on the assumption that we were tinkered with in the first place, which I think we were.  Our genetics are apparently pretty corrupted in a big way, and our body is designed all wrong, and riddled with thousands of genetic defects and prone to massive hereditary diseases, unlike how it is for animals in the natural world.  It can only be explained if we were artifically bred and tinkered with on the genetic level.....)   Thinking out loud here, so who knows.  Gettin' into Lloyd Pye territory here!    http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=3596

So anyway, that led me to think of any higher purposes to the idea of procreating despite it not being during ovulation, which you also mentioned.  You know, bonding, expression of love, and all that good stuff.  And that could very well be the case, either as a planned thing for our species, (by "God", aliens, who knows who at this point....) or just a natural by-product outcome of the fact that we do have hidden ovulation.

I don't know if anybody here has read the "Anastasia" book series from Russia (translated into English), but this is one of the many Big Subjects covered in the books.  The idea of what happens when a man and woman pair up with procreation being the ultimate goal...and not just lust.  There's attraction and desire, but it's being fueled by "I want a baby...I want a baby..." In the first book in the series, (called "Anastasia") this happens between Vladmir and Anastasia.  Afterwards he notes that he's been with a lot of women in life, women who were skilled in the art of love, leading to enjoyable experiences, but NOTHING compared to whatever he experienced with her.  He was basically left wondering, what in the flip HAPPENED there when we were together???  It was unlike anything he'd ever experienced.  Well, it turns out that both of them went into the union desiring a child.  She'd been wishing for a baby, and he in turn wanted one as well, and both had that on their minds.   He was viewing her body not as a lust object but as a baby vehicle, and envisioned a baby at her breast, nursing, versus the way they're often seen in our modern world.  But this basically created a WHOLE other vibrational level when they paired up, leading to the highest form of sex one can have...pairing up for the purpose of creation and life, based on love and caring, versus lust and objectification and degradation, which is how it's become for so many people nowadays, (tying back to Daisy's original opening comments about what she's witnessed of the kids her age around her). 

Anyway, just some thouughts...

I'm not dooming people who choose to live without sex, but I'm telling that we shouldn't let go our common sense when talking about human matters like sexuality.
Things are really easy actually when you see things as they are...

About the idea of family....

I think one thing that's going on right now is that the more "aware" folk are gravitating away from any blood ties with toxic family members, even if they share genetics with these people. 

And there are more and more people creating families in different ways -- with friends, like-minded spirits, and so forth -- who feel that these people are truly "family."

My "family" has always been very eclectic.  Fortunately I'm close to my parents, but they don't "get" any of the stuff I'm really living or doing.  So it's my mate, and my friends, and my circle of like-minded folks from the Net who are my true companions in energy.

So......I'm wondering these days if the tribal structure we lived under for so long doesn't also have its DARK side that is now getting untangled. For the first time ever, we have a chance NOT to be forcibly tied to our genetic family of origin from life until death, living in the same town.

We have a chance to bond with people who share the same energy as us.

Too often, the genetic family is NOT the soul tribe. Your soul tribe is often completely different than the family you were born into.

The unique mobility that our current era offers us, where we can choose not to have kids and not to be dependent on grandma and sisters and aunts to help us with childrearing, (again, that ties you heavily to your genetic family of origin,) means that we have tremendous freedom to go on a quest and live with like-minded folks. And sometimes that takes a little searching, and it's not going to happen in your hometown or with your genetic family.

So, while the breakdown of the old notions of family can be bad in some ways, I see it as very, very, very good in other ways. People are free to bond with others who truly honor and love their essential nature instead of becoming victim of an arranged marriage concocted by the genetic family, usually as an excuse to keep you close by.  If you come from a really dysfunctional genetic family, you  have the real option to get away and to support yourself in the world apart from those dark, bad vibe, people.

This option, if you think about it, did not exist for most people until the latter part of the 1900's.  It still doesn't in much of the world.

So the flip side of the breakdown of the old notions of family is that is allows us to find a truer, more compatible family that we create through the heart instead of the DNA.  And I think that can be a very very very good thing, ending thousands of years of lifetimes where we've been trapped and limited by those who might share our genetics but who don't share our soul's goals.

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

Great idea!

I was shopping this afternoon in a big city mall, and I was seeing all women and girls being so sexy, even mothers with child, and all men being dressed as if they were on tv, shining and too clean....It is all about being a sexual mate for each others, being attractive or not. After all the time I've spent in Afrika, this was so shocking and obvious I wanted to throw up every minute!
And I really think building a real happy family based on true feelings can "channel" all these sexual energies we are dealing with, making us responsible and stable,and seeing other people as they are, not just predators and preys.

That will be very hard, when I see what you already know ;-)

Actually I've spent most of my time in Mali (West Africa), living in the biggest city Bamako...

It's really hard for me to speak about that country because each time I go there I see things very differently...

But the more I go deep into that culture, the more I feel humans are always dealing with EXACTLY the same things but using a different point of view. But for me (that's my experience) it always comes back to one point: dealing with parasites (it's funny there is a lot about that right now on NR).

Staying months in Mali and coming back home is like coming with a different point of view on the same thing I've known since childhood, so I'm really shocked by what I see when I go into a mall here: sex, sex, sex ,sex.

Not that sex is not a huge thing in Africa (it is!), but you will never see it with your eyes in the street in a conservative place as Mali (it's not the same in other countries like Ivory Coast for example). You have to date African girls and have close friends to feel it...

So it's always the same song but the rythm is different, and moving back and forth from home to there is always discovering something that was there but that I had never noticed before. Actually it's like moving the assemblage point from one point to the other...

As I said it's hard for me to speak about this country, if you have specific questions, just ask ;-)