Topic: Three films about 2012

Over the last few months I've become aware of three independant documentary films about 2012/consciousness shift that are scheduled to be released this year or next.

Here are the websites which all have trailers on them:

Time of the Sixth Sun
http://www.timeofthesixthsun.com

2012 The Odyssey
http://www.2012theodyssey.com

Shift of the Ages
http://www.shiftingages.com

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I found this kabbalist's interpretation of 2012

interesting

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea … 1611363548

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Thanks for the links guys, very interesting!
Dovid's kabbalistic interpretation also gives more clues.

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Good trailers. Has me thinking about 2012 again.
I typed in 2012 in YouTube and there's a lot of stuff on this.
Prophecies are cool things...I've been a little skeptical of "2012" and the claims of what will happen during that period, but more and more I have the feeling that something is occurring right now. You can start noticing it right now, but I've been told in a particular dream that something "2012-ish" will happen in less than two years time...sorry if that's vague, but I asked a pretty vague question to this particular entity.

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5 (edited by Shoogie 2007-05-14 11:59:17)

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I feel very manipulated by 2012 lingo and the idea of it. More and more I feel like 2012 is a manufactured "occurrence" for lack of a better term.  These are some of the thoughts I've had when watching these and other videos on 2012:

What if the aliens have done something to the timeline or something to human consciousness artificially and are now triggering key "aquarian" types to spread the message of this amazing era in which the aliens play a central role as the new gods

What if 2012 is a complete NWO creation to get everyone thinking in a certain way that something BIG is going to happen on that date and thus something either will happen because we generated engetic thoughts in that direction /or they have already planned something big happening which will then fall into place with people's expectations.

A few reasons why 2012 bothers me:


1. Why now? Why have I not heard of 2012 before 2007?? I was into conspiracy research starting in '97 and one of my family members was heavy into new age/alien stuff since the 1970's and I never heard of 2012 before now.

2. Why is the concept of something BIG taking place becoming mainstream in our culture. Even  the mainstream media [while not outright discussing 2012] seems to promote the idea that

a) the world is going to change very soon
b) something is severely wrong with our planet
c) armageddon scenarios

What is really going on here? One thing I've learned from my studies so far is to take eveything with a grain of salt. Ask yourself: Who stands to benefit? What is really going on? [by the way, I'm not directing this at anyone on this thread, just musing aloud]

You see this in commercials, and all aspects of popular culture. You hear regular/non-conspiracy people talking about it. The other day while getting take out the woman ringing up my order tells me that her machine will not accept credit cards that expire in 2013 [!] I mean [???] yikes

Hell, when I'm walking to work I can count the number of Heroes posters I see on billboards, bustops, etc. all featuring eclipse symbolism etc. Its all over NY and its beginning to piss me off. I refuse to be swept along by the fear makers!!

This was driven home for me even more because my parents and some relatives have begun listening to Coast to Coast which I find to be outright foolishness and fear mongering and they're all getting doomsday and shaking there heads about the state of the world.

But here's what they're forgetting. We've been here before. The world has seen terrible disasters: the black plague, untold wars, fantastic innovations in science. It has all happened before. So what's all the fuss about?

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Shoogie wrote:

1. Why now? Why have I not heard of 2012 before 2007?? I was into conspiracy research starting in '97 and one of my family members was heavy into new age/alien stuff since the 1970's and I never heard of 2012 before now.

Regardless of whether 2012 is an important date, I find it very surprising that you haven't come across it before this year. I think I've been aware of it since the mid-90's, although back then I think I saw it mostly being discussed as a literal end of the world date, rather than being seen as a consciousness shift.

The interest in 2012 seems to come from two main Earthly sources (and several non-earthly ie. channeling), one being the Mayan Calander which has been decoded and written about for something like 20 years or more.

And then there was Terrence McKenna who received some interesting revelations during some intense psychedelic experiences during the 70's. He was shown the concept of what he called the TimeWave which revealed that everything was leading up to a singularity that would happen in 2012. At the time of this insight Terrence was completely unaware of 2012 also being a Mayan end date. If you want to learn more about this then I would Google "Terrence McKenna Timewave 2012" or something similar. Or read his book "The Invisible Landscape".

Also the book "Galactic Alignment" by John Major Jenkins shows strong evidence that suggests the Mayans weren't the only ancient culture that believed something important was going to happen around 2012.

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Shoogie wrote:

I feel very manipulated by 2012 lingo and the idea of it. More and more I feel like 2012 is a manufactured "occurrence" for lack of a better term.  These are some of the thoughts I've had when watching these and other videos on 2012:

What if the aliens have done something to the timeline or something to human consciousness artificially and are now triggering key "aquarian" types to spread the message of this amazing era in which the aliens play a central role as the new gods

What if 2012 is a complete NWO creation to get everyone thinking in a certain way that something BIG is going to happen on that date and thus something either will happen because we generated engetic thoughts in that direction /or they have already planned something big happening which will then fall into place with people's expectations.

A few reasons why 2012 bothers me:


1. Why now? Why have I not heard of 2012 before 2007?? I was into conspiracy research starting in '97 and one of my family members was heavy into new age/alien stuff since the 1970's and I never heard of 2012 before now.

2. Why is the concept of something BIG taking place becoming mainstream in our culture. Even  the mainstream media [while not outright discussing 2012] seems to promote the idea that

a) the world is going to change very soon
b) something is severely wrong with our planet
c) armageddon scenarios

What is really going on here? One thing I've learned from my studies so far is to take eveything with a grain of salt. Ask yourself: Who stands to benefit? What is really going on? [by the way, I'm not directing this at anyone on this thread, just musing aloud]

You see this in commercials, and all aspects of popular culture. You hear regular/non-conspiracy people talking about it. The other day while getting take out the woman ringing up my order tells me that her machine will not accept credit cards that expire in 2013 [!] I mean [???] yikes

Hell, when I'm walking to work I can count the number of Heroes posters I see on billboards, bustops, etc. all featuring eclipse symbolism etc. Its all over NY and its beginning to piss me off. I refuse to be swept along by the fear makers!!

This was driven home for me even more because my parents and some relatives have begun listening to Coast to Coast which I find to be outright foolishness and fear mongering and they're all getting doomsday and shaking there heads about the state of the world.

But here's what they're forgetting. We've been here before. The world has seen terrible disasters: the black plague, untold wars, fantastic innovations in science. It has all happened before. So what's all the fuss about?

You should be questioning of 2012 anything that is being spoon fed to us all is questionable. It's been said that the Mayans only got this date from ETs or time travelers anyway. 2012 maybe something real a change over what have you and that is why there is so much control issues going on with this time period. Dark/light all fight over the same thing right?

8 (edited by Magical_Mongoose 2007-05-14 14:59:26)

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I say that we'll know what 2012 really means the closer we get to it. At some level, we already know what will happen, and hopefully, we've aligned ourself with a more positive timeline.
Regarding the idea that aliens will land around 2012 is a strong theme in many different theories. I watched a video on YouTube about 2012 that said something along the lines of "Aliens will only present themselves once we are spiritually ready."
Not only is this an ego trip, to suggest that only the spiritually advanced are contacted, but it also supposes and implies that aliens are spiritually evolved.
Also, regarding the idea that "this has happened before", that we have seen this type of suspense that something is going to change, that Jesus will return, that the Beast will present itself by marking people, etc. makes me more skeptical, particularly regarding the "doom and gloom" scenarios that I think are just engineered for loosh (which is, from my understanding, psychic energy that we produce) harvesting.
I think, however, that despite all of these several "yeah-right" factors present within the 2012-story, that there is a degree of truth present within what Terrence McKenna has said, what the Mayan Calendar may say(and key point is MAY...whether it's just a highly complex and accurate calendar, or perhaps it's even more: a map of the evolution of consiousness upon Earth, is up for serious debate), and particularly what the C's have said about a possible dimensional shift in their transcripts is perhaps one of the more compelling and specific theory I've encountered. Whew.
But, in the end, we can only speculate and perhaps engage in some timeline-explorations during dreamtime if you're up for it. As for everything else, only time will tell.

"Don't eat any wooden nickels."

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José Argüelles


http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=4598   #7

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I have know about 2012 since the mid 90's.
It's all connected with harmonic convergences, photon belt etc.
And those I know have been spoken of far back in the 60's.

No matter if you think it's some NWO conspiracy or not, it is a major galactic alignment of this solar system
all planets and the central sun. One full galactic year is complete.
You could say the great pendulum of the universe will start to swing in the other direction.

Hang on, because things have only just started.

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Well again I think that both sides fight over the same thing. That's why 2012 can be seen being used by both sides. They are trying to swing it their way.

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As if 3 weren't enough, it looks like there's a 4th 2012 type movie on its way. This one's just called The Shift

http://theshiftmovie.com/index2.html

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13 (edited by Nyarlathotep 2007-08-17 15:21:08)

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The best stuff Ive ever found on 2012 and the mayan calendar is here:

Ian Xel Lungold part 1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … ;plindex=2

part 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … ;plindex=3

and part 3
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … ;plindex=1

A lot of interesting subjects are brought up.  Drunvalo Melchizedeks book the Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life has some neat reflections on 2012 also. Ive also heard somone say that come 2012 nothing will happen and that the nihilism that comes with it will BE it. Hmmmm. Its good to get all perspectives, and most importantly your own. For some reason I just WILL NOT watch apacolypto. I just wont watch it, same reason I wont watch the passion. There are some Satanists in Kali that LOVED the passion lol. Nothing against satanists, its just funny these guys loved that flick.

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I have a very strong feeling that a 'singularity' as described by McKenna is indeed coming up - '2012ish'. I can feel it in my solar plexus, in my brow, and a in a space behind my ears - maybe my 'assemblage point.' It's a funny feeling, and I can't say I have anything to compare it to.

I have had visions of the future, the near future. I have never had prophetic visions other than these things, and I will share them. I believe them to be genuine.

Years ago I dreampt  that I was on a deck at a party in my hometown. It is a semi-urban area. We were outdoors and there were many of us, a bbq type thing. We were all on drugs, it felt like. It was strange that we were on drugs, because it seemed like a very mainstream crowd. My inclination is that something was in the air, or perhaps the water. Probably the air. A rumbling occurred, and we all looked to its source, toward the north at a small mountain. The drugs really started to kick in and very intense vibrational sound energy came from the mountain. It was very attractive, this sound. Like fire to a moth, or better yet - bass lines to a candy raver. Everyone was captivated, gaga-eyed and open-mouthed and letting glasses drop. It seemed like everyone was completely hypnotized. Then a light show started, from the same mountain. Sort of like fireworks, but more holographic. A warning bell sounded inside me and I turned away - "EVERYBODY! DON'T LOOK AT IT!" I didn't have time to say more than that, I dropped to the ground and pulled my jacket over my head and closed my eyes.

I awoke from that dream knowing exactly what I had just seen. The 'government' was using drugs, sound, and holographs to captivate the consciousness of the people. If this were to happen just as we are going into some kind of 'singularity', something that is a portal of a kind, then it may be the perfect 'time' to harvest a bunch of souls, like for real. Much better than suckering discarnate souls into psuedo-heavens, this could be an opportunity to create a slave race of immortal souls. Or something like that.

The other was also a dream. I was at the hippy hill area of Golden Gate Park, San Francisco. I was walking away from the hill towards the bathrooms when the sun started going the opposite direction. Time was flowing backwards, yet somehow my linear sense was maintained. Perhaps it was a pole shift and the orbit had reversed. Things started to get really weird, I had this sense of being on a drug, very 4D. Up in the sky were some very strange flying objects. A helicopter type thing, but with the look and 'feel' of an insect swooped around and landed behind me. It had large missile launchers. It didn't seem like a vehicle with people inside it, but an intelligence of its own. Struck me as a hybrid. Alien intelligence with earth matter technology. I heard a thundering sound, like tearing of the fabric of the universe. I looked up and saw a massive airship. The feeling of it tore through my solar-plexus, a terrible terrible fealing. The sound got louder and louder until it woke me up into a silent bedroom.

These dreams left me with very strong impressions. I have knowings about these dreams that don't require an effort to interpret. I feel like I 'downloaded' data when I had these dreams. What I learned from this is that there is indeed an alien/government agenda and it will use technology, drugs, and sound to hypnotize and control the consciousness of this planet when the '2012' thing happens. It feels very much to me like praying mantis/draconian. Honestly, I don't know what 'draconian' even means, but that is the word that comes to my mind for it. Many would say 'reptillian' but that doesn't really cover it. The draconian is etheric/shadowy. The mantis is more biological. I think the 'greys' are certainly a physical manifestation of this hybrid, as are the shadowy elements of our governments.

***

Phew, I've never written that out before. I don't usually indulge in specific ideas about aliens and the end of the world. My strange dreams lead me to this...

15 (edited by Nyarlathotep 2007-08-18 08:25:27)

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Ive had dreams with the same feel and texture of yours mencius.  I have more than a few apocolyptic dreams and some of them are very close to yours. I new there was another presence on this planet, and I am a warrior and will meet them. There was a very large BOOM and a storm came that was extremely intense. Outisde my window a cliff dropped over a beach and ocean. I jump out onto the beach and there is a helicopter there shooting at the shore. SOmthing happens and it crashes into the ocean.

This is just a small part of one of my dreams. There is a lot of other stuff going on in them but these small things match up with your dreams. Also, I somtimes have tsunami and torndado dreams. Actually tornado dreams are one of my FAVS! When I see the tornado in my dream I somtimes go to it and willfully get swept up in extacy in giving up to the forces of nature. In one tsunami dream I was I was in NYC. I as on top of a building because there were riots in the streets. I heard a very loud sonic BOOM and then saw a massive waves comming from the atlantic. I was at least 600 feet high. Everything went black when it hit. These kinds of dreams dont scare me. I think they are very interesting in t hat other people are having them all all the time.

Nowadays my dreams seem more literal, like its just like being awake. There are fantastic thigns happening of course, but they accent my daily life and studies and the world more accurately. I had dreams about UFOs that were just extraordinary and amazing,  and other dreams concerning a faceless entity that shares the earth with us. THis dream took place thousands of years i nthe future were we all lived udnerground together. A war broke out between the humans and these faceless beings. Think of "no face" in the dick tracy movie, thats what they looked like. Anways, one of them, in order to just END IT ALL, dropped a baseball sized nuclear weapon into a hole that leads to the center of the earth. I knew what he had done and that there would be only 5 minutes for the device to reach the center. The whole planet had underground subways and the like. THis was an interesting dream because I had never read about underground cities and bases yet. I may have "heard" about them, but never studied. Thats a very interesting subject. Just what being udnerground implies on an archetypal level. Mckenna said that during the DMT flas hthere is a distinct feeling of being underground.