SednaSphere wrote:Anything come to mind as apropos, to flesh it out? Now that I'm at peace about
these events, I can share them, and look at as if it happened to someone else. I no longer get any attacks
I can't basically lauph off, but I'd like comments about it, feedback, any similar experiences, to
help myself and others fill in some blanks. It's gotten to the point where it's kind of entertaining, but to
claim to have found me through this site, I mean, that's bozo. (Not sayin' it ain't so, but it's still a bozo thing
to do.)
Wow, that is pretty crazy Sedna. It's good that you've gotten to a point where you can talk about it nonchalantly, be emotionally detached and have some humor about it all, that's the best way to ideally be, imo. That means they didn't win.
From what you describe, it sounds like an FRV robot all the way. There's no other way to describe how she found you again via NR.
I really dig Montalk's summary list of traits for what to look for. This is something we were recently discussing after some emails that I'd received from a particular woman, who then started emailing Tom. Here's my account of what happened, copying and pasting from an email I sent to an NR buddy of ours. I sent him this since he runs several websites concerning abductions/UFO/MILABs, etc. and is heavily involved in the research and does get emails from people about it all, some of which he's forwarded to me (with these people's permission, from what I understand.) Figured I'd tell him about our encounter to illustrate FRV robot/time and energy drainers who do 180 personality flip flops.
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....Several months ago both Tom and I got these emails from this woman named K___ who seems to be a MILAB. K___ found me via my book and then emailed me, all enthusiastic, giving me the basic run down on her family. Dad was in Naval intelligence, mom was "off" and had issues....exactly like my mom! she told me
excitedly. Family was screwy in general. So at first I was thinking, Wow, cool, you know, that's
great that my book helped somebody make some connections. That's always neat to hear. So I wrote
her back. I didn't feel that "tug" toward her though, like an instant sort of affection or liking that I
will get with certain people who contact me, but she had high energy and did buy my book and I always
respond to people in those situations. So after I responded to K___, she immediately emailed me back, so,
I emailed her again. And she emailed me back, and so on. She really wanted to be back and forth email pals
and wanted a connection. She was wound up about her newfound realization that she might have stuff
happening to her based on her family's screwiness and Dad's intelligence work.
But soon I realized - her emails basically keep saying the same two things over and over. Dad was in
intelligence, mom had issues (and was "exactly" like my mom) mom had issues and Dad was in intelligence.
Dad was in intelligence and mom had issues, mom had issues and Dad was......you know, over and over.
The emails were amped up and hyper, going in circles with the same two points about her mom and dad,
telling me family history stuff, talking *AT* me, using me as a sounding board for her hyper, going in
circles repetitive points, and coming at me like gangbusters to convince me that our moms were sooooo
much alike, EXACTLY alike. Really desparate to establish a connection with me in that regard.
In the 4 1/2 years I've been getting emails from people since I first submitted guest articles on Montalk,
I've never encountered somebody like her.
Soon she was also emailing Tom in the same hyper amped up way, to challenge him on his stance about alien/UFO researcher Steven Greer and the Disclosure Project. Tom has his ideas about the real agenda going on with that, which he's talked about on his site, but she didn't agree with him AT all and wanted to drag him into this back and forth, back and forth email debate discussion about it. She began cc'ing me all the
emails she was sending him, so now I was getting like, three and four emails at a time from her. I told her
Okay, you don't need to cc me on every email you send to Tom. Honestly, I'm not interested in that subject,
so I'm not even going to read them. So she stopped doing that and instead stuck to just firing off
emails to me about her mom and dad and family, etc.
No sooner would I email her back and she'd pound out another long one within like, half an hour. I
realized....this woman must seriously be typing like 90 words a minute to crank these out so fast! But
the kicker is, she wasn't really responding to the points I was making in my emails to her. She was just
talking *AT* me, basically pounding out these emails to have a conversation with herself.
And then it finally emerged that her mom was actually nothing like my mom. After establishing that they were "exactly alike!" she did a 180 one day....in mid-email, **mid-paragraph** no less.....and changed her mind. The paragraph starts out by talking about how both our moms are alike and have issues. Then by mid paragraph (she's basically talking to herself in this paragraph, like having an internal debate) she starts to get a little tense, then the switch happens as she begins talking about all the good points her mom had, and then by the end of the pargraph she's concluded that her mom was a wonderful homemaker, a good wife, beautiful, talented, smart, amazing, (those words) and that our moms are NOTHING alike. Then she was off and running in the next paragraph about something else, hyper.
I read that and was left staring at the computer screen going "hanh?" After all those emails reiterating that our moms were exactly alike, and that her mom was troubled and crazy and had issues, now this??
That's when I decided to drop the whole thing.
Something was WAAAY off with this chick. Unstable personality switching, self absorbed, hyper and amped up, and most importantly.....energy feeding. Trying to suck both me and Tom's energy and time in all these repetitive pointless emails that go in circles. I sent one last email, (not telling her I was dropping her, still trying to avoid a negative confrontation) but I did say that in my opinion, I thought I painted a pretty clear picture of who my mom was in the "Appendix" section...so I'm not really sure how this misunderstanding occurred, but I'll go back and re-read my Appendix. Maybe something isn't clear, maybe some re-writes need to be done. (truthfully I knew the issue was K___, not me. She's very self absorbed and only pays attention if the topic of convo revolves around her in some way. If it doesn't, then she doesn't pay attention and only sees what she wants to see. That much I could tell from our back and forth exchange.) But I figured it was best to act as if the fault was on my end before walking away. Leave on a positive note. Try a new tactic, versus my old way of handling things which is to just bluntly go off and tell people how it is.
At this point Tom had also dropped her as well. After he ignored one of her emails there was about a week's lag time. Then she emailed him again....doing a 180, now agreeing with him about Greer, (!!! amazing! Kind of like "something" decided to change its tactics
) but now disagreeing about something else, I can't remember. Another bait lure, spinning off onto a different topic since the first one didn't work. He just ignored it and never wrote her back again.
I figured she'd never email me again, realizing that we were both ignoring her, but lo and behold after two
months I got not one, but two emails from her last week, back to back. (can't ever just send one.
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[I won't publish the email excerpts here on a public forum, but the gist of the email was that she said, "Remember we wrote back and forth about our mothers?" and then within that paragraph mentioned the crazy mom...and the dad in intelligence. Same two subjects, again. But "remember we wrote" ?? How could I forget. But it just goes to show that the fact Tom and I didn't write her back escaped her. The nuances of the whole crazy exchange, whooosh, right over head. Oblivious. Self absorbed.]
Both her emails were more of that amped up, talking at me craziness, going on and on about all the abduction memory weirdness she just *happened* to remember since the last time we talked. Wanting to take me along for the ride, I guess. Phase 2. Not interested though, thank you.
[She went on to talk about how she contacted Budd Hopkins of all people (!! holy schmoly) and then *MUFON.* Out of everybody out there she went to MUFON for help, who I wouldn't trust any further than I could throw. But, that's an FRV thing. She says she spent almost six hours on the phone with a MUFON woman who gave her a "quiz" and determined to her "absolute horor" that yup, she's an abductee....and which left her "shaking and crying" and all worked up. More low, unstable FRV. I'm sorry, but I would never tell anybody "who they are" or make definitive conclusions about what their situation is...and based on a quiz, no less. At best I would offer theories. Everybody's responsible for figuring out what their personal situation is. You can't be told by somebody else. *Even my higher self won't tell me who I am and what my situation is.* To me that says something about the nature of somebody else, even our own higher selves, telling us what our deal is. I'm getting that we need to figure it out for ourselves...for whatever reason. She also said she checked into therapy with her husband for all this...which is good, imo. That's a step in the right direction. Maybe it'll be of use.)
When I wrote her back I also bluntly laid it on the line and told her that I couldn't fulfill the role for her that she was looking for with me, that she's self absorbed and only talks *at* me, has no interest in me and who I am at all, and that it's good that she's now going to a therapist, because therapists get paid get talked at. I don't!
It didn't go over well, and her response was nutty and hyper. She was now denying the way the past email
exchanges had gone, twisting things around and claiming a very different version of events regarding the moms being exactly alike misunderstanding. And I wasn't even going to bother to argue it, going back and cutting and pasting email clips to fight back and prove myself. That's what the energy feeders want, after all. And it's pointless. It's not like she would have acknowledged it anyway. Then she ended the email with the big dramatic declaration that she wasn't going to recommend my book to people anymore!! Kind of like, how dare you decide you don't like me and have a falling out with me! I'm gonna get you back and manipulate you by threatening to not recommend your book top people!
I read that and just shook my head and thought Whatever, dumb ass! **I give the book away for free.** Like I give a crap. Just shows where she's at in her emotional maturity.
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After that I blocked her email address the way Sedna did with hers. I have no interest in dealing with troubled people and will block and address in a blink. What these people/FRV robots/whatever they are fail to realize is that their nutty responses only go to further prove the points that the other person was originally saying in the first place.
Whether she was an FRV robot or just a troubled real person, I don't know, but it's highly suspect. We have the time and energy drain, the amped up desparation to connect, and using a bait and switch tactic, (the subject of our moms), the 180 flip flopping in personality, the unstable amped up, emotionally nutty FRV, the inability to care about others, just focused on herself, (that's why she loved the 6 hour MUFON phone call...it was 6 hours of nothing but talking about her, and her situation. How could she not love it?) etc.
"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!" - Anonymous
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