Re: Chemtrails galore

I am very skeptical that chemtrails represent a physical manifestation of the spraying of chemicals into the air.  These scars across our ether seem to be merely the result of a high speed object causing water vapour to condense into a cloud.  Vapour trails can be seen forming off control surfaces of airliners while travelling on them.  Chemicals being sprayed into the air have a completely different appearance, like the exhaust of planes seen as a thin grey line trailing them.

Clouds are wonderful and magical features of our reality. They materialise and vanish at will, they behave totally unpredictably and they give form to images from deep within our subconcious.  I do not believe there is any reason to be suspicious of such wonderful gifts, even if the cause is man made.

When it comes to the effects many people associate with the supposed chemicals sprayed from planes, it seems to me that symptoms such as headaches and fatigue especially are mostly caused by exposure to pollution in general.  If agencies wanted to affect a population en masse it seems that the local water treatment plant would be the best place to go.  In fact isn't it odd that many people get sick because of drinking the water in foreign countries?  Mixing different mind altering substances will often do that.

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Re: Chemtrails galore

The problem is that chemtrails can occur behind "slower moving objects" as well as the very fast. It is odd that the "chemtrails" linger and by the end of the day the sky is hazy, whereas "CONtrails" or vapour trails are short and short lived and don't make the sky hazy.

As for the headaches and fatigue and stuff, TPTB would rather keep things under the radar so to speak, and do things that will affect people with "weaknesses" already, respiratory(asthma, COPD) and circulation(headaches and fatigue) as opposed to do something to the water system. Affect the water system and you get something that "illnesses" can definitively be traced back to and it would affect a larger population base than they want to.

Just my opinion.

I would still like to know what quantifies "heavy" chemtrail spraying.

Peace,
Teddy

"It means the Matrix can't tell you who you are" - Trinity

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>>I would still like to know what quantifies "heavy" chemtrail spraying.

come to phoenix, and youll know

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zonabi wrote:

>>I would still like to know what quantifies "heavy" chemtrail spraying.

come to phoenix, and youll know

Or Toronto, Canada, too. Your own eyes will see, and it will still be difficult to fathom.

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Impatiens,

I've seen it slightly in KW (Kitchener-Waterloo), but nothing like here. Though we can go days without seeing chemtrails, I have literally counted 5 "jets" flying at one time and 13 chemtrails in the sky one morning and spraying again later on in the evening. Some banking at impossible (in my mind, of course I've never flown in a military jet)90 degree angles (wish I caught a picture) or even at other angles.

Peace,
Teddy

"It means the Matrix can't tell you who you are" - Trinity

51 (edited by impatiens 2005-05-20 16:42:21)

Re: Chemtrails galore

These are some of the typical anomalies I've seen, which is why they seem to me to be chemtrails rather than ordinary contrails.

Contrails seem to be the "normal" emissions from jets. They're typically thin and begin to fade/disappear quickly, from the end [farther away from the jet].

Chemtrails, on the other hand, are not always thin; they have irregular shapes or lines, and some even make "patterns"; they are emitted from the jets, but these trails DO NOT fade quickly at all, sometimes they're up there for many minutes, even hours after the jet's long passed out of sight. I've spent enuff hours outside on my deck, gardening, reading, writing, and just chilling... to know.

It's also easy to spot the difference between con and chem trails when both are visible. The comparison is strikingly and abundantly clear.

I saw one the other day, a jet whose trail was fading immediately behind/close to it; but, get this, not fading near the end. It was most unusual. Definitely chemtrail, imo.

But, the oddest one my hub and I saw was last fall, a jet (close enuff to look like a commercial jet, but not close enuff to read the markings) in ascent mode with streams of dark, thick, black trails (smoke?) coming from it. At first we both thought it was on fire, in trouble. We stared in amazement for a few minutes, fully expecting it to explode or crash. It didn't fortunately. It continued on, higher and eastward, till out of sight, but those black (not brown, or even grey) trails stayed there, not fading. We watched for about 15 minutes before we continued on our way.

I typically notice them on clear days. When it's cloudy, it's difficult for me to distinguish contrails from chemtrails. Also have seen the blatant criss-cross or intersecting "patterns" they make. And on some days, it looks like freakin' rush-hour in the skies with half a dozen jets criss-crossing within minutes of each other. Typically, the next day(s), the weather is cloudy, overcast, and/or wet.

My wacky theory?  They're tampering with the weather, and/or intentionally blocking out the sun.

On another note: did anyone besides me notice the moon last night, specifically the perfectly formed square-armed cross emanating from it? Versus a halo/circle or roundish aura which I usually see. Caught it around 3 a.m. and it freaked me out. I kid you not. I went to several windows, cleaned my eyeglasses, and all views were the same. It was a friggin' "cross" emanating from the moon. I'm not a Christian, or into the Rapture or anything. Good thing. I mighta' thought that it was a happening!

[Hey, didn't a lake disappear in Russia last night?   

http://reuters.iwon.com//article/200505 … E-DC.html]

Btw, I don't take drugs, none. And don't drink heavily, don't ever get drunk. Was fully awake. Couldn't sleep, was watching re-runs on tv, and suddenly felt very dense/heavy inside; turned around and saw that moon. I swear it's beginning to "transmit messages". Yup, that's wacko, I know. But, the moon's been "relating" to me (and not me to it, btw) since December 17, 2003. 3 times to be exact. Final time was a clear, accurate, precog vision of the Tsunami, just 10 days before it occurred. Wrote about that disturbing incident in Etemenanki forum, so it's been documented and read by others.

So, whenever Montalk or others talk about the moon, I listen and nod my head. I grok completely what he's saying. And all these chemtrails, no matter how much they bother me, it pales in comparison to what the other signs in the skies seem to be revealing.

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Hi every one here is a good explanation on chemtrails.
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel … amp;page=2

Be the Wave

53 (edited by b0g 2005-12-31 08:31:04)

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Hello everyone.
I've been also noticing chemtrails in my area for the last month,i am from Cyprus which is very far from the US but there is a US airforce base in the turkish side of my island (Cyprus is divided since 1974).
I've noticed aircrafts moving at very high speeds and at very high altitudes and leaving behind chemtrails after a few minutes the trails lower down and spread out and become black clouds.I have also seen some very weird "clouds" which i believe are man made using some kind of weather engineering technology.
Pics:
http://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?imag … 1171rw.jpg
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/8745/dsc001079xf.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6615/dsc000276yw.jpg
http://img466.imageshack.us/my.php?imag … 0255wu.jpg

I had more clear pics of chemtrails but i deleted them by accident,i will take more shots when i get the chance.

Take care everyone and keep fighting the NWO!


b0g

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Saw something new today I've never seen before. As I was going to a local park with my dogs, I noticed a black line in the sky, stretching from overhead straight down to the horizon. When I got out of the car, I followed it back with my eyes and a (plane?) was laying a chemtrail exactly on the black line. As the plane got closer to the horizon, looked away for what I thought was a minute or so. Looked back and the plane had totally disappeared. Chemtrail was already dipersing. Black line was gone. Did not feel like I had lost any time, but like maybe the plane had jumped ahead. There were at least two other chemtrails being laid at the same time I was seeing this, but wasn't aware of black lines with those. Too weird.

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Sounds like a good one. I've got to remember to take a camera with me more often, because I'm seeing
some odd formations as well, at least every couple of weeks or so. It's gotten so I expect it, but it's better
to document it, I know.

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I think you'll find the black trails are just shadows - thicker portions of cloud relative to that in the surrounding region.

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