• Lono
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Topic: Timing of steel bridge melting from fire

Maybe I'm just getting paranoid, but I think it's a little strange that an Oakland bridge melted due to a gas tanker exploding on it within weeks of Rosie bringing up her point about that difficulty.  Also, no one was injured, which indicates to me it may have been perfectly timed not to kill, but to shut increasingly vocal 9-11 detractors up.  I checked comments on another Rosie story, and lo and behold, people are snorting like crazy over the "second time in history fire has melted steel."  I had the feeling the tanker was staged (and why it was), and these comments just confirmed it.

Whad'ya think?  Too much thinking on my part?

2 Reply by ape-x (edited by ape-x 2007-04-30 17:06:09)

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Re: Timing of steel bridge melting from fire

I had the same thoughts Lono... follows too closely on the heels of Rosie's comments on the matter. I don't imagine this would be a tough one to pull off.

In case you haven't seen this: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ap … llapse.htm

One of the comments on that article puts the max temp for a gasoline fire at 2700F.

I think that is about 1000F wrong, as in, more like 1500-1700F. Which is *just* beginning to reach 'plastic' state for steel.

Which is what it looked like, just droopy. Everything softened enough for the weight of the structure to (casually) bring it down.

And even before I saw the PP piece, I was thinking "yeah, just what they need to cite" anytime the 9/11 thing comes up.

Some days the matrixmanipulations are just that much more obvious....

P.S. I am a (semi) retired welder, I am not a layman, and I know what steel does and does not do smile
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Re: Timing of steel bridge melting from fire

Glad it wasn't just me!  Yeah, they don't need anything that looks like the WTC building demolitions, just any little thing people who don't want to see a truth need to say "I told you so."

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Re: Timing of steel bridge melting from fire

We're on the same wavelength, Lono and ape-x.

But they still aren't fooling me.  Those buildings were rigged.

And don't forget that the cop who saw the cleanup crews arriving
at the Murrah building the DAY BEFORE the explosion was killed
in an unexpected way.  They had to clean him up too, before he
talked to too many people.  Timothy McVeigh didn't want an
autopsy, because he'd have to be DEAD for them to do that.  He
left out the back door with a new name and identity.

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Re: Timing of steel bridge melting from fire

I had a look on wikipedia for some more accurate numbers, steel becomes incandescent at around 1800F (very faint glow) and works up to almost white at its BOILING point, which if I recall is around 3500F. Between 1800 and 2200 degrees would be considered plastic state, 2200 to 2600 is a very bright red.

So temps MAY have been high enough to melt the steel, but the insulating effect of the concrete and/or pavement makes me suspicious. Not to mention that highway bridges are constructed using the highest quality steel, and all the weld joints are x-rayed.

And this apparently is going to make traffic a nightmare for hundreds of thousands of commuters- for a long time.
And we all know how the ptb love to make messes like this just to see what is affected, well.......

Yeah Tom P, just another experiment?
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Re: Timing of steel bridge melting from fire

The huge mess it creates for the Bay area commuters is their ticket to screaming it over the airwaves without making it look like they're trying to get us to notice it.  My, how clever.;)

  • Registered: 2004-10-26

Re: Timing of steel bridge melting from fire

I'm sure most of us have had the thought of how easy it would be
to isolate us all in large urban areas of high density just by staging
strategically placed overturned tanker trucks at critical points in
the highway system.  During rush hour, of course.

  • Registered: 2006-08-21

Re: Timing of steel bridge melting from fire

It's the whole order out of chaos game they love to play.