Re: Amitakh Stanford

Hi Lyra. I agree is is most difficult to discern true channeled messages from the ego of the channeler and some of it may sound rather 'new agey'. But having now read three of the four Matthew books I am becoming more and more convinced of the validity of this source.
Regarding predicitons, Matthew's view is to not trust specific dates for events to pass...he sees these as almost always negatively influenced and rarely even vaguely true (think of all the end time predictions that have failed to pass in the last 20 years) and yet they always fulfill their main intention to instill fear and indescision in to certain sections of the population.
Some may see this as a cop out but Matthew states that the continuum of posibilities is in a state of constant flux (even more so at this crucial time) and is therefore difficult to pin down when it comes to specific events (his dialogue on the implementation of NESARA being a good case in point).
Matthew does indeed concur with most of the major conspiricies as beng valid including Illuminati control and the role of the Reptillians in mankind's history...weather he has added anything not already known is a question I am not qualified to answer as I am not well read enough in all the different sources.
However in Matthew's first book, Matthew, tell me About Heaven, he goes in to great detail about the afterlife and the dynamics of life in Heaven (or Nirvana as he says it is correctly named), what souls do, where they travel to, interaction between Heaven and other planet's spiritual realms and the very busy and directed roles souls have in the afterlife etc. which I believe to be original material (please correct me if you know of any other sources who have also provided this detail of information regarding the afterlife).
Anyway, as with all this type of material, it is ultimately up to the individual  to use his or her judgement to discern the truth from the disinfo and this is as close as I've personally come to really resonating at a soul level with what's being said...I urge others to give this source a try!:):):)

Not as clever as I think I am

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Novice wrote:

Regarding predicitons, Matthew's view is to not trust specific dates for events to pass...he sees these as almost always negatively influenced and rarely even vaguely true (think of all the end time predictions that have failed to pass in the last 20 years) and yet they always fulfill their main intention to instill fear and indescision in to certain sections of the population.
Some may see this as a cop out but Matthew states that the continuum of posibilities is in a state of constant flux (even more so at this crucial time) and is therefore difficult to pin down when it comes to specific events (his dialogue on the implementation of NESARA being a good case in point).

That's interesting, because Goro Adachi has become quite adept at nailing what events are going to happen on what days.  He's gotten so good that he can not only pinpoint a week when a specific event will occur, but sometimes within a two - or even one - day range.   And he's not psychic, he just claims to have figured out the way the patterns that make up "the grid" of reality work, which enables him to pinpoint months in advance when stuff will transpire.  Makes you wonder.    His most recent "prediction" (again, based on figuring out patterns in the chaos and decoding the symbology within the events that surround us) was to predict Donald Rumsfeld stepping down immediately after mid-term elections.  And it happened.  Interesting.  I believe in the idea of probable timelines and an open future - things seem variable - but sometimes I do wonder.  I think it is possible to predict thing, and so for me personally, it's one of the criteria I keep in mind when reading the material of someone claiming to be channeling a higher realm entity that's supposed to be able to have access to that sort of information.   It's like, Come on...throw me a prediction.  wink  big_smile  Show me what you're made of!  haha




Novice wrote:

However in Matthew's first book, Matthew, tell me About Heaven, he goes in to great detail about the afterlife and the dynamics of life in Heaven (or Nirvana as he says it is correctly named), what souls do, where they travel to, interaction between Heaven and other planet's spiritual realms and the very busy and directed roles souls have in the afterlife etc. which I believe to be original material (please correct me if you know of any other sources who have also provided this detail of information regarding the afterlife).

I know, and it's all well and good, but again, who can prove it, you know?  That's the problem with after-life discussion.  Sylvia Browne also has quite a lot to say about the workings of the afterlife, and it sounds fantastic on paper when I read it.  But I'll throw a wrench in the works by mentioning the totally fascinating discussion that occurred here on NR not too long ago where we were all pondering the trickery and deception going on in the afterlife.....how souls are being tricked and trapped in these after life realms, thinking they're in some blissed out heaven when in fact, they're actually being herded by higher beings into these false heavens so they can be fed upon.   !!!   It was such a fascinating discussion, and as a direct result of it I now also keep that in mind as a criteria for trying to tell who's who and what's what.   Is the channeling source just spouting feel-good anecdotes about the afterlife that make you feel warm and fuzzy?  Or is it more realistic and balanced?  Because multiple people are confirming that there is a lot of confusion and deception happening in the afterlife..things aren't what we're told they are.   
 


Novice wrote:

Anyway, as with all this type of material, it is ultimately up to the individual  to use his or her judgement to discern the truth from the disinfo and this is as close as I've personally come to really resonating at a soul level with what's being said...I urge others to give this source a try!:):):)

A thought that passed through my mind as I read that is, well, that's fine, but why is it that people have a need for this sort of thing?  It's kind of obvious I guess....we're uneasy, we want answers, we want somebody to tell us that we have nothing to worry about, and everything is going to be okay.  And that's what this material provides.  Supposed answers, and a security blanket of comfort.  It "resonates" because it mirrors beliefs we agree with while making us feel good. 

If I sound lost, like I can't committ myself to any one thing or belief, well, it's because I am!  big_smile   I don't know what to think about anything anymore.  I can weed out the ultimate obvious hooey from the higher quality material, but even then, who's to say what's the real deal.   What if the truth about reality is so unbelievable that it would cause us to mentally implode if we knew, and all these sources are all disinfo....!

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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If I sound lost, like I can't committ myself to any one thing or belief, well, it's because I am!     I don't know what to think about anything anymore.  I can weed out the ultimate obvious hooey from the higher quality material, but even then, who's to say what's the real deal.   What if the truth about reality is so unbelievable that it would cause us to mentally implode if we knew, and all these sources are all disinfo....!!

And herein lies the problem with all this endless discussion...far from feeling centred and happy in our beliefs, we find ourselves confused and still in darkness...it has to be what resonates for me (if that what feeling warm and fluffy is!) as what other yardstick can we judge by? Are we not told time and time again from multiple sources that we should look within for the answers? I'm no psychic or clairvoyant but I have to use some means to make a judgement and if it feels right, good and just to me that's good enough smile
And yes, I do find this talk of an afterlife conspiracy most disturbing...where do these ideas come from? Who is qualified to be privy to this information and from what source? (it would have to be from outside and above any other sources) To me they originate in the darkness to add confusion in to the mix at this most crucial of times. Matthew's description of the Heavenly realms do not in any way paint a picture of endless days of nothingness, sitting upon a cloud, playing the harp and waiting for the next chance at incarnation. There is definite purpose to one's existence in Heaven, more so than here on Earth with constant interaction with other civilisations, life forms and other dimensional entities and why not?
What is the alternative offered?...a false afterlife with no hope of redemption and no way out? Where is God? Where is Hope in this scenario? Really stuck in this endlessly reincarnating hell where even taking one's own life would be pointless...
I don't buy it...it is utterly negative and takes away all sense of hope much like AS's view on an entirely negative universe...they have won, we are trapped and there's no point in doing anything...no, I think not!
Whatever happened to faith?...:):):)

Not as clever as I think I am

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Novice wrote:

And yes, I do find this talk of an afterlife conspiracy most disturbing...where do these ideas come from? Who is qualified to be privy to this information and from what source? (it would have to be from outside and above any other sources) To me they originate in the darkness to add confusion in to the mix at this most crucial of times.

Well, when you think about it those sources are no more "qualified' than say, Matthew, or any material that makes claims about the afterlife, since ultimately, none of them can be "proven."  All of them rely on the reader either "resonating" with the material or not.  And what resonates for each of us is going to be kind of a subjective thing.   

It seems though that a lot of spiritual/new age people want everything to be happy and to feel good....forget any information that might "add confusion" to the mix....even if it has validity.  For me, I'll neutrally listen to both sides of the story, and if somebody has information that says "Hey, things may not be what we're told they are....let me tell you what I heard! (saw, know, experienced, etc.)"  then you better believe I'll be all ears!  smile   I consider it the smart thing to do.  I'm not the sort of person who only wants to hear what's warm and fuzzy, simple and unconfusing.  But I kind of knew somebody would say that this sort of info. is "darkness," and was curious to see if that did indeed come up.  We're all entitled to our views, and I'm not criticizing yours, I'm just saying there may be more to the story is all, and that I don't agree with the idea that to consider another viewpoint would be akin to "darkness" and only be adding "confusion" into the works.   It's not dark or confusing so long as one remains neutral as they listen.   Information is information, nothing more.  Darkness and confusion ensue when one starts emotionally reacting and falling into despondency. 

And here's an idea......you feel that this information is to add confusion during these times.....what if it's the opposite?    Let's say that hypothetically speaking there is validity to the idea that souls are being trapped and lied to and mislead, herded back to the Earth plane to endlessly reincarnate, (again, hypothetically speaking here, because I don't necessarily know or believe that this is the case.....)   And assume that there is a way to break free of this....maybe it's exactly because it's "these times" that something wants us to finally learn this and wake up so we can get out of here.   !   Maybe the time has come to remember who we are and break free.  Now there's a thought.   There's more than one way to look at everything.....

Anyway, this thread has digressed....it was originally about Amitakh, then you asked about Matthew, which lead to this, so, maybe we should step off and let it get back to Amitakh.......

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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You're right...no one really knows exactly how things really are but I sure hope I'm right!;):):)

Not as clever as I think I am

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Novice wrote:

....no one really knows exactly how things really are but I sure hope I'm right!;):):)

I hope you're right too.  wink

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: Amitakh Stanford

After a looooong time of no activity at the xee-a-twelve website - so long, in fact, that I thought it was discontinued entirely, Amitakh Stanford has posted a new article . As many others here, I'm not a complete follower of her writings and philosophy, but I sure find it entertaining nevertheless.

Check the new article out here: http://www.xeeatwelve.com/articles/Prison_Break.html

I've only gotten about halfway through it yet, can't say she's putting out any revelatory new insights or anything, but still - I must say I find it strangely fascinating to entertain her ideas (although I don't buy them wholesale, of course).

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Read all her articles seems to be a new age gnostic. But, alot of ideas that the creator of this reality is evil is. I don't disagree with them but I guess I sometimes think this all going away is a fantasy. I would assume that the dark creator would have to wake up itself for this to go away.

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Am very glad I found this thread via research using Google.  I discovered Amitakh about 2 months ago and have been going through the articles on her site more recently.  I remember the day someone mentioned her site on an Indigo forum I used to post on and the absolute shock/knowing I felt when I read the first article I was directed towards.  It just felt like my world was turned upside down (sorry to be overly dramatic, I suppose it wasn't "quite" that shocking).

Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone who was part of the original conversation going on in this thread would like to comment on Amitakh and her views now that some time has gone by.  I'm particularly interested in thr33tim3's thoughts about where he stands in regards to the Anunnaki rule and other information on the xeeatwelve site.  Does it still ring true to you?

Over the last couple of years and particularly over the last couple of months, I've amped up my research for the meaning of "my" life  and this forum seems like a great  community of intelligent, open-minded posters and I am happy to be participating.