61 (edited by ShineOn 2007-04-18 06:55:35)

Re: 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech

Any coincidence that there's a movie on 3500 screens nationally called Shooter?....I too thought yesterdays convocation was rushed and creepy. The applause and school pride type chants were nauseating.

" The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it "

Ayn Rand

Re: 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech

ITs been reported that the words "ismail acts" was found written on a part of his body. Ishmael or Ismail are key figures  in both judaism and islam. In the Bible it is said of Ishmael:

"He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers. (NIV, Genesis 16)"



From wikipedia:

"Muhammad is considered to be one of the many descendants of Ismail"

"In Islamic beliefs, Abraham had prayed to God for a son ('Isma' in Arabic means 'to listen', i.e., answer prayer, and 'ell' is derived from the Hebrew word 'elle', meaning 'God'). God delivered Ismail to Abraham, and later tested Abraham's faith by asking him to sacrifice his only son at the time."


"Virginia" is named after Queen Elizabeth I of England who was perhaps the icon and most central figure in the history of the establishment of the New World Order. Her reign brought Francis Bacon into mainstream thought. From http://www.overlordsofchaos.com/html/illuminati_conspiracy___secret.html"


"The Baconian vision for the establishment of the "Ancient Order of the Ages," alluded to in his book, The New Atlantis (1626), was transmitted through the Empire of Secret Societies into the modern era but chiefly via the Lodges of Freemasonry. In his book, The New Atlantis, published after his death, the aged Bacon intimated that the newly colonised America was the "New Atlantis" and would replicate the legendary civilisation Atlantis in its grandeur and vision. "

"Because of this guidance and singular inspiration to seek and create new more enlightened horizons, and because of his intimation that the New World was the "New Atlantis," Francis Bacon is considered by some to be "the real and true founder of America." Thus, a 1910 Newfoundland stamp with his image upon it reads: "Lord Bacon: the Guiding Spirit in [the] Colonization Scheme."


David Icke on Queen Elizabeth:  "Queen Elizabeth of the UK: Satanist, child sacrificer, shape-shifting reptilian. Major Illuminati figure."


This seems to be another Islamic attack on Christianity it looks like..Either they leaked the ismail acts thing or he was being used by islam behind the scenes so to speak..The fact that he was korean also figures in as well..Koreans tend to favor Islam i think more than other faiths. Queen elizabeth was central in bringing both a PRotestant Christianity to the west and perhaps a more secular vision of things. PErhaps one of the main advocates of secularisn, humanism, liberalism, empiricism, etc..Her reign helped usher in the rationalistic industrial age.

Ismail means "listen to God"...so it just may be this was another Islamic terrorist attack on the materialism and secularism of the western christians and jews.

63 (edited by oavada 2007-04-18 07:41:03)

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Just as a sidenote, i got the info about "ismail acts" from the Howard Stern show of all places...Stern, not surprisingly, is a Jew and a German, and the self-proclaimed "King of All Media"..So, its quite probable this is yet another invented lie to suggest to people that this was some sort of  terrorist attack of some kind by Islam.

Re: 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech

Well, they need their false flag attack so they could use it to go and do the rest of their plans. Put people in fear and they will okay anything you want.

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Umm ok why were there pictures of people putting american flags on the memorial. What the hell does "America" have to do with this? Goddammit! They try to turn everything into patriotism and flag waving. Hey I ate oatmeal for breakfast today lets wave a flag.:mad:

Arrrrrgghhh! I deliberately didn't turn on the news when this shit went down because I knew I was going to be pissed off.

Excuse my french but this makes me so mad. Now I read that Korean americans are afraid of a backlash?!! Ok first of all if there was a backlash against an entire group of people for this I would seriously kill myself. I can't believe how stupid people are or could be

Oh and don't get me started on the gun legislation that's bubbling to the surface over this. They already have a  list of who in running for president in '08 is against guns and who is for. Can they BE anymore transparent?!!  I think I'm moving to scandinavia. It may be the last calm, tolerant and sane place on earth. mad:mad::mad:

My People Were Fair And Had Sky In Their Hair...But Now They're Content To Wear Stars On Their Brows

-Tyrannosaurus rex

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Shoogie wrote:

Umm ok why were there pictures of people putting american flags on the memorial. What the hell does "America" have to do with this? Goddammit! They try to turn everything into patriotism and flag waving. Hey I ate oatmeal for breakfast today lets wave a flag.

That's it. We've all got to stick together for "America". This is the false flag attack. A lot of us "whacko conspiracy theorists" believed that there would be an arranged attack in the US and that the authorities would respond with more restrictive laws and controls, for our protection, of course. This is diabolically clever; now they are going to do it to "protect the children". mad

Adama, don't believe _anything_ put out by Hollywood. Hollywood movies about youth are propaganda to encourage emotional illness. Also, in the parts of the US where gun ownership is common there's much less crime. Being "weak" is what a criminal wants his victim to be.

And Zenden, I believe you're right about the hidden reasons for what's happening.

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.

67 (edited by lyra 2007-04-18 10:20:30)

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Shoogie wrote:

Umm ok why were there pictures of people putting american flags on the memorial. What the hell does "America" have to do with this? Goddammit! They try to turn everything into patriotism and flag waving. Hey I ate oatmeal for breakfast today lets wave a flag.:mad:

Arrrrrgghhh! I deliberately didn't turn on the news when this shit went down because I knew I was going to be pissed off.

Yup...that's what I said earlier on pag 3:  "The "show your support for Virginia Tech by wearing the school colors....no matter how much they let the ball drop" thing is a microcosm of the same flag waving, ribbon sporting, "Ra Ra Ra!" mentality that this country went through post-9/11.  The WTC's were so obviously a controlled demolition and there was quite obviously an FAA stand down in terms of jet scrambling, and you know, a missing plane for the Pentagon and suspicious circumstances with Flight 93....but nevermind that.......wear your red white and blue, wave your flag, proclaim your loyal devotion and stick your ribbon on your car antenna.   Be loyal, no matter what!  roll "

 

Shoogie wrote:

Excuse my french but this makes me so mad. Now I read that Korean americans are afraid of a backlash?!! Ok first of all if there was a backlash against an entire group of people for this I would seriously kill myself. I can't believe how stupid people are or could be.

Unfortunately you better believe it. hmm   Same thing happened to people of middle eastern decent after 9/11.   

http://picayune.uclick.com/comics/bo/2001/bo011109.gif


And after the recent Don Imus bruhaha, where he got fired for saying that the Rutger's women's basketball team were really rough, with tattoos, "those are some nappy headed hos...." people were apparently sending death threats to.............the Rutger's women's basketball team.   I guess blaming them for the fact that Don Imus said what he said, and Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson for responding the way they did, and ABC for firing Imus in turn.  It somehow became the team's fault that this all happened.  Yeah, that makes sense.  hmm   So, yeah, go figure.   Makes absolutely no sense...but welcome to the world.  When you go on the 'net, namely, these entertainment blogs where people can post comments, you would be FLOORED by the stupidity being displayed.  People will take any comment by any so-called celeb and misunderstand it and twist it around to the point of utter lunacy.  You begin to wonder if people are brain damaged, or illiterate and incapable of reading comprehension.  But it's insanity.   People say that consciousness and awareness are on the up and up in our country?  I'm not seeing it.  I'm liable to side with William Deagle who noted in his speech (posted in the Links section) that consciosness right now is the lowest it's ever been. 


Shoogie wrote:

Oh and don't get me started on the gun legislation that's bubbling to the surface over this. They already have a  list of who in running for president in '08 is against guns and who is for.

I know, this whole Problem-Reaction-Solution reponse is just so immediate knee jerk and completely transparent that you almost have to laugh.  Seriously, it's just so obvious and over the top.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech

look pinky-- on ur rome premise, which i totally agree with u, ape, and everybody on this thread.  rome, sacrfices, blood, spring.  what a planet!  what a race of?  ancient influences.  and what's the deal with the 3's--he shot 3 times, stuff in 3's again.  whoa.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo … ead=102936

"Immediately following the Cerialia comes the Parilia, held on April 21st, consecrated to the goddess Pales, who is the goddess of shepherds and flocks. This day is STILL celebrated as the birthday of Rome. Lastly, comes the greatest feast of Rome, the Vinalia, consecrated to their supreme god, Jupiter, the god of light (Lucifer) -- the sun, the protector of vines and the Roman people. His feast has a special double articulation on the Roman calendar, April 23rd and August 19th."

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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This little nugget from www.trance-formation.com.



From Mark & Cathy - April 16, 2007
Hi ... sadly ... though predictably ... it is major D.C. diversion time again to focus folks away from what Congress and the Executive branch are infighting about today: More $ for the wars being waged against countries that have never done anything against the US.

Below this intro are some direct quotes from our book "ACCESS DENIED"...about a tiny little town in Virginia ... Blacksburg we felt strongly would eventually become "news"!

WHY.... because Blacksburg houses (underground in the side of a local Blacksburg mountain!) the best kept US government's ABOVE TOP SECRET laboratory for developing/applying (as in Cathy's case) such weapons such as human robotic mind control programming.

Ask yourself... "how ironic" that a tiny little town, as disclosed about in ACCESS DENIED in Virginia could HOST the worst school massacre in US history on a day of extreme importance that a so called "showdown between Congress and the Pentagon/Executive Branch" over the war funding and pulling our troops out ... to most likely divert the people's attention away from what is being perpetrated against all of u.s.

PLEASE consider why we entitled this chapter (22) (your) "NEED-TO-KNOW"!

Please, we beg of you ... consider today ... do it now ... strongly recommending our book "ACCESS DENIED For Reasons Of National Security" to everyone on your mailing list as a MUST READ NOW ... as they have a "need-to-know the facts that support why we include such "notable mention" of Blacksburg, Va., population 48,595 minus 31.

From "ACCESS DENIED For Reasons OF National Security" , chapter 22, page 160, 2nd edition

Cathy: What’s DARPA?

Mark: Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency[1]. It’s the most Top Secret special weapons development lab in the world.

Cathy: I’m glad I don’t know about that one.



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From "ACCESS DENIED For Reasons OF National Security" , chapter 22, page 161, 2nd edition

Below is the exact recorded dialog between Mark & Cathy while driving to a Washington D.C. speaking engagement.

Mark: You’ve talked about, only not by name. It’s in a sleepy little town in Virginia.

Cathy: Oh, that place, I shuddered. I guess I didn’t Need-to-Know the name when I was there. Isn’t it called Blackbeard or Blackbird or something like that?

Mark: Keep looking until you see a road sign in memory.

Cathy: Blacksburg!

Mark: Yes! I was aware of it when I was couriering file tapes for Ampex. My perception of DARPA is that it holds the key to what is eroding the soul of America- and the world. Everything I know may still be classified.

Cathy: Then I won’t ask you what you saw. I said, aware that laws of Sedition could result in his imprisonment if anyone found out he was talking.

(footnote on page 161) [1] Wear anti-virus firewalls if/when seeking further information online regarding DARPA!

Thank you, for your time to read this and pass it along to everyone you know ... and for your help to reach ones who are not so well informed as you.

Peace,
Mark & Cathy

" The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it "

Ayn Rand

70 (edited by Pinkrlyq 2007-04-18 12:00:28)

Re: 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech

The reason that the school is waving the American flag around so much in the media coverage is because Virginia Tech is a Military School!!  Check out their website: http://www.armyrotc.vt.edu/default1.htm
Isn't it convenient that the media keeps neglecting to inform the public about this fact....  They want to lead peoples' minds onto other things.

Zenden, that's very interesting info. you found about Rome and their sacrificial holidays.  I think many people don't know that Rome was never about Christ (even though today the Vatican is central there).  Romans were all scavengers.  Their pagan religion and gods were all borrowed from the Greeks and other cultures that they overtook.  Theirs was a culture of military and economic gain through domination, all in the name of their Republic (Democracy).  Unfortunately, the Roman Empire is still alive in the delusional minds that run parts of this world today. 

The thing about the three gunshots still has me scratching my head.  I know that certain semi-automatic weapons fire in 3-round bursts, but the grouping on such weapons is usually very tight.  And from what the students said (as well as the "authorities"), he only had a handgun.  I know that initially, there was a report from one of the emergency room doctors who worked on the surviving victims, and he said that there were many head, arm, and chest wounds.  The only thing that came to mind is "head, heart, and hand", if that has any kind of religious significance?  But I doubt that the shooter intended any kind of religioius significance by the way he fired.  It must just be a part of deadly force training.  *shrug*

Lyra, I agree with you about the decline in our consciousness and awareness, especially recently.  I've been noticing it for a while and have been wondering what on earth was happening to people.  Was it the genetically modified food, or chemtrails, or even some kind of subliminal programming, or frequency control via HAARP?!  Incidentally, I was reading over some of the DULCE documents a while ago, and I thought a lot of what they say in there is a load of bunk and just more disinfo because it is so "out there".  But there's always got to be some truth mixed in somewhere.  One thing that they talk about that I just remembered is the infiltration of the Grays after the "deal" was made with the US gov't. to conduct their experiments on the populace in underground bases in exchange for their "superior" technology.  Only, the Grays did what they wanted without telling the gov't about it, and they spread like roaches underground and began to abduct and implant hundreds of thousands of people.  The devices are able to control hormone and chemical levels (like dopamine and seratonin) in the person's brain, essentially turning them into zombie-like robots who would fall under the control of whomever was controlling the implants.  Now as absolutely crazy as that sounds, I've started to wonder (especially considering the past few years) if that wasn't the case.  Supposedly, by the 70's (I think it was) it was estimated that 1 of 40 americans were implanted, and by the 90's it was more like 1 out of 10 people.  I can just imagine what the statistic must be today, if this story has any truth at all to it.  Scary stuff, but there's got to be some kind of explaination!  It seems that our "under-educated" great grandparents were a hell of a lot more consciously aware than most so-called "well-educated" college graduates are today!

ShineOn, that's very insteresting!  I wouldn't doubt that there is an underground (or inside the mountain) military base there.  It certainly would explain much (including the Queen's sudden interest).

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." ~ Mark Twain

71 (edited by zenden 2007-04-18 14:13:39)

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look at this.  dont care if it came from the zetas, and this thot came to me yesterday.  i'll be damned.  and he sent a pkg to NBC's today show? (havent had time to read all that up there, just got back on here after away for more than a few) -- but check this...

ZETA'S REPLY TO QUERIES:

We were asked to comment after the Columbine massacre, and after the Amish school massacre, and had the same comment both times.
There is more to these shooting than meets the eye, but the reason for the cold hearted blood lust is not some black ops under human control but an audition.
The shooter, the perpetrator, is auditioning for a spot in the hierarchy among the "Service-to-Self", on the Service-to-Self worlds they will be incarnating into next.

The Earth is in a "Transformation", where those in the Service-to-Self are increasingly sorted into circles where they interact with each other, in preparation for their future incarnations on Service-to-Self worlds.
Likewise, those in the "Service-to-Other" seek each other out and form communities, and all this is in preparation for the forthcoming change on Earth where only those in the Service-to-Other will be allowed to incarnate on Earth.

In this increasingly polarized setting, what happens to the mindset of those in the Service-to-Self, who increasingly are denied access to the patsies and victims and lackeys they have always found in abundance?
There is resistance to bullying, because the Service-to-Other shore each other up and defend each other.
There is lack of access to the weak, whom the Service-to-Self like to bully, as they are under the protection of strong Service-to-Other groups who set the tone and don't allow bullying.
The Service-to-Self, in short, become enraged.

i'll BE, that hierarchy of evil.  yesiree.  and that RAGE.  theres always more to this crap.  this is from rumormills, and from zetatalk before that.  sounds really likely and so on...and back on quick at work, and wow ShineOn!!! thats incredible.  never knew that on blacksburg.  total trip. i just read today that another kid he went to HS with, same HS also did this and killed 2 cops there last yr, at the ? same time, date as this. and they were in that school together.  also learned that he killed 2 kids at the campus that went to HS with him, then, there.  come ON.  i gotta tell u guys too, about the hormone that can be found in great quantities in aggressive males.  some races have it innately and it can always be 'added'-- increased, souped up. i was told about it 10 yrs ago by an MD and it all made fantastical bizarro sense.  why some males stab rather than shoot and other coincidental violent behaviors.  bet ya its in autopsy reports on shooters we never will see.  when one knows to look.   u wont believe who confirmed it too ==THE C's!!!  and i started reading the C's in 1995---1996, when they were one of the very FIRST channeled sources i came across on the net.  so far damn back its seemingly ancient itself.  THE C's CONFIRMED what this doc told me then, and i ran across it only days ago when i checked their latest stuff on u know where. (i snoop all over the place alot).  now, is that unreal or what? uncanny.  so pinky--indeed.  if they did actually implant everybody then (1 out of 10?) or are in on it, then they'd most certainly know, as above.  my god.  and i gotta say, if EVERYTHING has been such a lie, such cover-up, such malarky, then WiH is the final straw/trick to this sector of the universe, and im pissed as hell.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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Yes, how does the world see us?

Probably something like this-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w9EksAo5hY                              J

Happy to have been a part

73 (edited by treehugger 2007-04-18 14:03:56)

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The shooter was Greenbaum programed.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
Ad Verecundiam

74 (edited by SamIAm 2007-04-18 14:22:56)

Re: 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech

I think you are thinking of VMI (Virginia Military Institute). But Virginia Tech isn't a military school--its specialty is engineering and science. It has an ROTC program, but it isn't a designated military school now, but I think it use to be by the way this CNN quote sounds:


"Virginia Tech also is known for its Corps of Cadets, a military training program within the university. Four-year service in the corps was mandatory until 1923. Two-year service was required for men until 1964, when it became voluntary. The corps admitted its first female cadets in 1973. The Corps of Cadets conducts training exercises on the school's drill field, located in the center of the campus."

75 (edited by belljar 2007-04-18 16:34:35)

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Hey by the way did anyone see the pictures of Bush's posture throughout the memorial service? Everyone else is sitting up straight with sad or stern faces. He is hunched over like an ape! I kid you not. I guess he thought it would make him look sad. But, when I see it, it says like a little kid: I didn't do it! The new god is patriotism as far as I can see since 2001.