Topic: 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech

32 students were shot and killed today on campus at Virginia Tech Univ., Virginia.  Another 28 were injured.   My son's friend Angel attends the univ. She said she had a class at one of the buildings where most were killed. Lucky for her, she slept in and missed classes today.

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Re: 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech

yeah this is sad

3 (edited by lyra 2007-04-16 11:26:11)

Re: 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech

I was wondering if there would be anything weird with this story, like with Columbine, and how the official story didn't match what students and parents have reported, and how authorities knew about it in advance and were told to let it happen.  (or 9/11, with the way there was a stand down, and jets were not scrambled when they should have been.)  Sure enough, I found this article on Yahoo just now.  Bolded words my own emphasis:

Yahoo article wrote:

BLACKSBURG, Va. - A gunman opened fire in a Virginia Tech dorm and then, two hours later, in a classroom across campus Monday, killing at least 30 people in the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history, government officials told The Associated Press. The gunman was killed, bringing the death toll to 31.

"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said Virginia Tech president Charles Steger. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified."

It was not immediately clear whether the gunman was shot by police or took his own life. His name was not released, investigators offered no motive for the attack. It was not known if the gunman was a student.

The shootings spread panic and confusion on campus, with witnesses reporting students jumping out the windows of a classroom building to escape the gunfire. SWAT team members with helmets, flak jackets and assault rifles swarmed over the campus. Students and faculty members carried out some of the wounded themselves, without waiting for ambulances to arrive.

The massacre took place at opposite sides of the 2,600-acre campus, beginning at about 7:15 a.m. at West Ambler Johnston, a coed dormitory that houses 895 people, and continuing at least two hours later at Norris Hall, an engineering building about a half-mile away, authorities said.

Police said they were still investigating the shooting at the dorm when they got word of gunfire at the classroom building.

After the first shots were fired, students were warned to stay indoors and away from the windows. But some students said they thought the precautions had been lifted by the time the second burst of gunfire was heard, and some bitterly questioned why the gunman was able to strike a second time, two hours after the bloodshed began.

"What happened today this was ridiculous. And I don't know what happened or what was going through this guy's mind," student Jason Piatt told CNN. "But I'm pretty outraged and I'll say on the record I'm pretty outraged that someone died in a shooting in a dorm at 7 o'clock in the morning and the first e-mail about it — no mention of locking down campus, no mention of canceling classes — they just mention that they're investigating a shooting two hours later at 9:22."

He added: "That's pretty ridiculous and meanwhile, while they're sending out that e-mail, 22 more people got killed."

FBI spokesman Richard Kolko in Washington said there was no evidence to suggest it was a terrorist attack, "but all avenues will be explored."

Up until Monday, the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was in Killeen, Texas, in 1991, when George Hennard drove his pickup into a Luby's Cafeteria and shot 23 people to death, then himself.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070416/ap_ … h_shooting

Just seems a little odd, the two hour lag time.   Very suspicious, as if some authority allowed this to happen.

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4 (edited by SednaSphere 2007-04-16 13:21:19)

Re: 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech

I noticed that two hour lag, as well. That had me scratching my head. Your post is the first I've heard about these student's
comments, however. I was thinking that it's awfully suspicious that two hours...that's alot of time to take action...passed
between the shooting events. And it's really sad, one way or the other, that all the notification officialdom gave the students
was this paltry, late email. To me, it shouts that something is up. (There may have been better notification in other parts of
the campus, but from some reports I heard, students learned most things from each other).

There has been one report of a female student who said that they were under l lockdown for two hours, then the lockdown
was lifted, and as soon as that happened, he killed again. So, we have here to all appearances a rather a chaotic set of
actions and reactions in which nothing much is said in the mainstream media about these insider reports. The chaos and fear
act as a convenient smokescreen and time delay, should any official stories need straightening.

These are some possibilities, and we've seen some of the still unanswered questions about similar cases, the sleeper agent,
possible accomplices, etc.

Right now one of the things they are talking about is the fact that many of these school shooters have been of some
foreign origen/ethnicity. I wonder what the symbolism of this is in light of the "explanations given."

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Sadly yes.......it smells of Hobart, Tazmania. If we can get the truth on the shooters past , I think you'll find him from a similar mold as other robotic marauders. White, male,  twenties, loner or orphan, estranged from family, scattered work history, DID or MPD, maybe even a Caufield fan. I've never wanted to be more wrong.

" The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it "

Ayn Rand

6 (edited by lyra 2007-04-16 12:52:51)

Re: 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech

ShineOn wrote:

Sadly yes.......it smells of Hobart, Tazmania. If we can get the truth on the shooters past , I think you'll find him from a similar mold as other robotic marauders. White, male,  twenties, loner or orphan, estranged from family, scattered work history, DID or MPD, maybe even a Caufield fan. I've never wanted to be more wrong.

I never quite figured out why "The Catcher in the Rye" is supposed to be associated with being a crazy shooter.  I know it was once found on the guy who shot Reagan (or Lennon?  can't remember....) but the book itself has nothing to do with shooting people.  At least that I can remember.  In fact I recently mentioned it on my website as being a personal fave of mine in the fiction literature category.  It's such a great book.  It's too bad it's been maligned like that and now associated with lone gunman crazy people.  hmm

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My other question is whether this was really a "lone" gunman.  CNN is using that term in fact:  "A lone gunman is dead after killing 31 people at two sites at Virginia Tech...."   I just know that when the media goes out of its way to stress that something was done by a "lone" gunman.......and so soon, before all the details are fully in and everybody has been interviewed.........then chances are likely that it's not. I mean, think about it.  How in the flip would "CNN" know for certain that it's a lone operation?  Has CNN interviewed everybody?  Does CNN have full access to all the details so soon in the game?  No.

You gotta love how the mainstream media swoops in to immediately establish the "official story."    "Lone gunman, nothing to see here folks, move it along...."  !

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Re: 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech

I call ritual sacrifice on this one by a triggered mind control victim with an alter. This will be another step to taking the guns away from people. They only put that in to try and keep the gov. honest. Just like with all these celebs going crazy and saying racist things. NWO needs to take away freedom of speech and our weapons. If we act like we can't handle these rights they will be taken away. Also colleges will be just as controlled now as the younger kids schools. There was a bit more freedom of expression at college. Look up Ted Gunderson's research on what really happened at Columbine if you think I'm just being a nutter. Also Michael Tsarion talks about the symbolism of the Columbine shooting in his lectures. It all ties into what is happening now.

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The emails:                           









mad http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor … Id=9606139

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As far as the gunman goes, he's said to be Asian American . I did, however, note in one photo I saw, some officers
standing in front of "Holden Hall." (I believe it was hall. It was Holden something), and very clear and obvious for all to see.
My intuition tells me that there is some sort of symbolic signaling being attempted here.

It was Chapman, the Lennon killer, who had Catcher In The Rye. It is a good book, it makes no sense. But if I am recalling
correctly, the man who taught him to shoot gave him the book, and may have made the book, which is innocent in itself,
into some sort of trigger word entrainment tool for Chapman. This is one theory. So perhaps the name sync is yet again
a signal to those- in- the- know- who- apparently- can -do- nothing, "despite recent world events, we are still in control."

Belljar, I don't think you are crazy at all. In one report, it was suggested that the colleges should have screening for weapons
like those at an airport! Egads.

Re: 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech

The death toll is 33 now and you all know what that means.

Re: 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech

lyra wrote:
ShineOn wrote:

Sadly yes.......it smells of Hobart, Tazmania. If we can get the truth on the shooters past , I think you'll find him from a similar mold as other robotic marauders. White, male,  twenties, loner or orphan, estranged from family, scattered work history, DID or MPD, maybe even a Caufield fan. I've never wanted to be more wrong.

I never quite figured out why "The Catcher in the Rye" is supposed to be associated with being a crazy shooter.  I know it was once found on the guy who shot Reagan (or Lennon?  can't remember....) but the book itself has nothing to do with shooting people.  At least that I can remember.  In fact I recently mentioned it on my website as being a personal fave of mine in the fiction literature category.  It's such a great book.  It's too bad it's been maligned like that and now associated with lone gunman crazy people.  hmm

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My other question is whether this was really a "lone" gunman.  CNN is using that term in fact:  "A lone gunman is dead after killing 31 people at two sites at Virginia Tech...."   I just know that when the media goes out of its way to stress that something was done by a "lone" gunman.......and so soon, before all the details are fully in and everybody has been interviewed.........then chances are likely that it's not. I mean, think about it.  How in the flip would "CNN" know for certain that it's a lone operation?  Has CNN interviewed everybody?  Does CNN have full access to all the details so soon in the game?  No.

You gotta love how the mainstream media swoops in to immediately establish the "official story."    "Lone gunman, nothing to see here folks, move it along...."  !

thats because as far as they know it is a lone gunman they seem to be interviewing the "police officials" who are investigating what happend. I do remember one of the CNN reporters asking if theres any evidence to suggest that there were others involved but nothing so far. Move it along? this is still on television. The news does have a tendency to "beat a dead horse"

Michael Tsarion would say that the backed up toxicity that is running through the etheric pipe lines in the earth grid is showing its effects and he may be right. The toxicity of this culture in America is horrible, Violence is promoted through movies, music, games and television. The shock value from all of this is burnt up.

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Suppose it was a disgruntled boyfriend. Let's say a 6'Asian man from a nearby university.  He goes to his girlfriends dorm. She isn't there so he kills her roomie and the resident attendant.  He then goes across campus to find her during class.  She isn't in the first class but he decides to open fire on the students in the classroom. He keeps going from class to class and just shoots away. Then the police show up and kill him.  If he was a disgruntled boyfriend from another school how did he get an ID card to enter the dorm? Why did it take him two hours to cross campus to get to the classroom. Okay, if you were the authorities and this happened early in the morning would you have immediately cancelled all classes?  If there was an overhead PA system couldn't they have called for an immediate lockdown? 
What's this? Oh, it's the Latest Breaking News from our fearless leader!  OMG! a message of hope!
Puh-leez, mr. "Horrfied", president. You are an archetype dog and poney show of evil madness and represent the collective cruelty of mankind which reflects a chemtrail haze of the reptillian brain  in need of stem cell research. How many children's lives have you killed today, Bubba?
Sorry, for the rant. I AM AWAKE SHEEPLE!  Can you suggest something to put me back to sleep?  Chamomile tea, deep breathing, and meditation just ain't cuttin it any more?  Religion, you say? Gotta go...time to hurl!  Here come the tears.  Nevermind, the Sun is  Up. It has Risen, Indeed! Gotta go, my kids will need some STO from a heart broken mother.  We're a family of Humanitarians and there is work to be done.  Hugs to All!

Re: 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech

belljar wrote:

The death toll is 33 now and you all know what that means.

I was waiting for that one. 

I'm confused about one thing.  In several of the stories, they report gunfire erupting at two different areas of the school.  Are they saying the gunfire in both places was simultaneous, or that it was two separate incidences (with the two-hour lag)?

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Notice how they went from 32 to 33? 32nd degree to 33rd degree? I'm just thinking of what Jordan Maxwell says about how the elite like to give us messages.

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what does 33 mean?  just wondering.  33rd degree of masonry?  or something?