1 (edited by Auscastian 2007-04-13 22:31:54)

Topic: Brown Star

I found an interesting passage in the C transcripts (I know I refer to this alot but bare with) which states of a "Twin Sun" which will be illuminated which will cause apparent chaos.  Here is the transcript:

A: What would happen if the brown star that is the sun's twin were to get close enough to be illuminated by the sun?
Q: (T) Well, if it were close enough to be illuminated, the obvious result is that it would be SEEN. People would panic...
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Governments would fall...
A: And terror and chaos. And when it departs again?
Q: (L) Everything will seem to be fine! But, they won't realize that the Oort cloud has been hit! Oh, sugar!
A: And then what?
Q: (L) It is not the Oort cloud or the comets that is going to cause all this terror and carrying on, it is going to be the seeing of the illuminated brown star, which will go away, and then no one will see what is coming! And this IS talked about in both the Bible and Nostradamus - but it was incomprehensible before! Okay, how long will it take the comets to get from the Oort cloud to here

Now Id like to know people's opinion on this, if this is possible, or even likely to happen.  I'd also like to hear Montalk's input on this if its not to much trouble, thx!

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I remember a while back talking about this on the IRC channel...about an aquaitance of someone on the channel that saw a dual sun on the horizon. But, when they went to find their camera and take a photo of it, it had disappeared. Who knows if we're still in the same place, or maybe we were "tractor-beamed" off to another place?
There's so much we don't know!

"Don't eat any wooden nickels."

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There's a recent article on this at the SOTT page that sums up pretty well the supporting evidence. Check it out:  here

In 2003, I pulled together some astrophysics equations to test whether what the Cassiopaeans said checks out mathematically. It did.   See my research note on this, there's a link to a PDF in there containing the math: 

                               http://montalk.net/notes/twin-sun

What Mongoose said is interesting to consider... this matrix can get mighty glitchy at times. My mom had a personal experience in the early 1970s involving seeing two suns, the natural one having grown massive in the sky while a new regular-sized sun appeared on the opposite side of the sky. She ran in to get her camera, came out and all was back to normal. It's as if the sun was about to go nova, and something intervened to fix everything back to normal. Or maybe it was a screen memory, I don't know.  But there was an odd article by Drunvalo Melchizedek about an event in 1972 involving the sun exploding (or something) which required timeline intervention by Sirian aliens to fix. That was around the time my mom had her experience... strange....

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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The book Nothing in This Book Is True But It's Exactly How Things Are by Bob Frissell talks about the sun changing. Chapter 14 is totally dedicated to this subject. Here's a few hints from the chapter. Getting the book would be a good idea there's a lot of info in this book and I don't really see it mentioned as reading materal in any forums I've gone to.

About 200 years ago the Sirians, who are our father aspect, became aware of a high possibility that we were not going to make it at all. They foresaw an event that was going to happen in 1972, and they knew that we had to be at the fourth dimensional level of awareness by then in order to survive. If we were at that level by 1972 there would be no problem.

The actual event happened on August 7, 1972. From our observation and we didn't know of course that the Sirians had intervened it was the biggest thing that we had ever seen. It was most intense solar storm ever recorded.

If the Sirians had not intervened, the explosion would have definitely killed us all. It would have killed everything on the planet.

What really happened was that our sun was about to expand in a giant red pulse out to the orbit of Jupiter or thereabouts.

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montalk wrote:

(... this matrix can get mighty glitchy at times... My mom had a personal experience in the early 1970s involving seeing two suns, the natural one having grown massive in the sky while a new regular-sized sun appeared on the opposite side of the sky. She ran in to get her camera, came out and all was back to normal.)

Ok, so if the matrix were to say glitch, and fix the problem with the sun, wouldn't that mean that it wont necessarily happen the way reported by the C's?  Because, the matrix could just "fix" itself and prevent anyone from ever witnessing such a thing?  Or could it get to a point where the matrix would no longer be able to sustain the effects of the "twin sun"?

Re: Brown Star

I don't think it's so much the matrix "fixing itself", but rather an outside intervention taking place, Auscastian.

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Would that be Icke's idea of oneness? Or Peggy Kane's idea of god called The One? I just keep hearing about this being/energy that is trying to break down the matrix from many different sources. Could it be our higher self as well? Just guessing here.

8 (edited by Adama 2007-04-15 06:52:55)

Re: Brown Star

Someone sitting on a rail train will always see one vehicle, while another one sitting in the train station will always see a lot of vehicles.
Just a question of point of view.
People see the most horrible and unbearable things on TV everyday, I think seeing two suns could be accepted by most people in a month, as long as their tv, house, jobs and cars are saved.

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Okay, the hair stood up on the back of my neck when I read this.! About a month ago, I was lying in bed, early morning. I have sliding glass doors off my bedroom, with no curtains, since we overlook our woods. I wake up to the sun in the morning. That moring I opened my eyes and I saw TWO suns!! At first I thought maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me. I moved around on the bed, but I saw two suns no matter what position I was in. I got up and went to the living room to see if I could see it from there and it was  still there. When I went back to the bedroom, I couldnt see it anymore. It must of lasted at least 2 or 3 minutes.   I thought maybe I was having a precog or something, but I wasnt sure what it meant.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

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10 (edited by An 2007-04-16 14:59:48)

Re: Brown Star

Around 2001, somebody, supposely a Jesuit from SIV, the Vatican intelligence service, gave  information to an italian ufologist, Cristoforo Barbato suggesting that something is coming : http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio … mega02.htm .
In this scenario, SIV used a probe from Area51 launched in the 90's by an Aurora type air-(space?)-craft to collect data from what is called a "planetoid" (that means there is a connection between the PTB in USA and SIV). According to the Jesuit there are 2 factions inside the Vatican : one for disclosure (ET had a meeting with Pius XII) and one against disclosure.

Images from Barbato are of poor quality, it's hard to figure out where the extract from the video was taken.

For the public, in 2009 NASA's Wise stellite will be able to detect brawn dwarfs near Earth. Most of the stellar systems in the known universe are binary systems.

Re: Brown Star

An, who are they disclosing the STS ETs that control this place or the STOs who don't? Cause showing off the STS ETs will deepen our slavery.

12 (edited by An 2007-04-16 14:59:17)

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I don't know much about STS or STO. I know that it is basically a dichotomy between entities who serve themselves and entities who serve others like the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_spirit … sattvahood .
Is it really relevant to have such a system ?

My basic stand concerning ET can be sum up by this declaration http://www.humansovereignty.org/
My main hypothesis is an overtaking of a civilization by another civilization(S) (via mind control). It's like Hernan Cortes and the Aztec Empire : http://www.pbs.org/conquistadors/cortes/cortes_a00.html . There are other hypothesis.

We need disclosure of ET presence ASAP and fight for the truth. Many information suggest that Disclosure is near. Everybody will want to skew Disclosure in her/his favor.

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It does seem that way they started with the crashes of ufos which I don't know may have been planned or letting us know was planned. Than a ton of high profile ufo sightings throughtout the decades. Making movie after movie about the ETs some positive most negative. And now we have all these insiders blabbing like no tomorrow. I've lost count how many of them there out there on the web. They say they are going against their contracts by talking but I have a feeling this is not true. That they have been told to talk about it. Just as long as they don't go the way Cooper and Schneider who were killed. Now we have the climate change/global war machine up and running begging for someone to come in and save the day. Problem is we have groups of hostile ETs that use us as a resource. The other side of ETs seem to have a hands off approach to us which is good. I just think that our elite will align with the more negative groups in public just as they have done privately. And people don't question they will do as they say and want comfort. Oh they were just studying us? Okay.

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I had a dream a month ago about a "double eclipse", 2 suns and both had an eclipse. This was followed by very severe weather and people in panic.

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@belljar : Disclosure is planned since it is needed to integrate Earth to ET(s) culture. Interventionists ET and their humans servants will try to twist the truth to fulfill their agenda. All the native people of Earth who are aware of it will fight for a TOTAL Disclosure and nothing else than the truth. Thus any sides need a Disclosure.

Real problems and threats to Earth will presented and hyped by the PTB (Climate Change, Energy Crisis, Ecosystem Collapse and so on). They are coming with their solutions.
We need to choose and create our own solutions based on our ethics, knowledge, love and our moral right to be the stewards of Earth. One first step to it, is to make connections with people who are already aware of the situation and create a strong community, a network.

A.