Re: What's the latest in Florida?

hi all i am wondering if there are any reputable news places showing the actual death toll from the florida hurricanes ?

yall know any ?

ive got of rense's sites, but some people wont take that as reputable ya know how it goes...

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

Re: What's the latest in Florida?

aaronfirebrand wrote:

I'll give odds on the old gal. I bet she gets through it intact. I hope so.

After I posted about "granny" I thought to myself: pity the fool who actually tries to carry her off because they're likely to end up looking like swiss cheese.

I hope she's going to be okay too mr. 'fire.

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78 (edited by Auendove 2004-09-03 15:14:12)

Re: What's the latest in Florida?

As I'm sure most of you know Frances has been downgraded to a cat 3 hurricane.  This is a good thing because the winds will not be as forceful. The downside is they are projecting up to 20 inches of rain being dumped in the interior of central FL, in my area they're saying 10-15 inches. GACK!  We'll see.  I heard on the noon news that it may take as long as 24 hrs. for the storm to pass through the state, this being the reason why it's turning into a rain/flood event , rather than a wind event. Frances was a monster to begin with, but now that she's slowing down she's dispersing even more... as big or bigger than the whole darn state!  The satellite pictures of her are amazing.

I'm thinking I'd rather have the winds than the rains... at one point or the other we'd like to go fly our kites!  I have this one trick bi-plane kite with a swirly tail that really cuts up in windy conditions!  My mate has a Prism stunt kite!  He gets off the ground in strong winds!

big_smile

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The wind is definitely picking up in my area and the air unmistakeably feels super-charged... I've been getting zapped by touching metal and my mate, and the kitty (poor 'lil thing).  It did take me some time to get my 'puter to even open up, it gets persnickety like this when there are solar flares also.

Anyway, just wanted to check in with y'all.  I haven't really watched the news this afternoon--at this point, what will be will be--but the last time I saw pics of Frances and her mass and, for her pityful speed (5mph last time I heard) it's looks like torential rains and flooding throughout much of the state may indeed be an issue. My mate seems to be of the mind that we will be without electricity for a day or two here... I hope not, I do so like hot showers. wink

"Welcome to the Jungle" by Bums and Posies just came on the radio... think it's time to boogie!!! 

big_smile

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

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Re: What's the latest in Florida?

It's hurricane season, best to be prepared.

We have entered the hurricane season. Every day for the next several months, you'll turn on the TV to see a weather person pointing  to some radar blob out in the Atlantic Ocean and making two basic meteorological points:

(1) There is no need to panic. (2) We could all be  killed.

Yes, hurricane season is an exciting time to be in Florida. If  you're new to the area, you're probably wondering what you need to do to prepare for the possibility that we'll get hit by "the big one." Based on our experiences, we recommend that you follow this simple three-step hurricane preparedness plan:

STEP 1: Buy enough food and bottled water to last your family for at least three days STEP 2: Put these supplies into your car. STEP 3: Drive to Nebraska and remain there until Halloween.

Unfortunately, statistics show that most people will not follow this sensible plan. Most people will foolishly stay here in Florida.  We'll start with one of the most important hurricane preparedness  items:

HOMEOWNERS'  INSURANCE: If you own a home, you must have hurricane insurance. Fortunately, this insurance is cheap and easy to get, as long as your home meets two basic requirements:

(1) It is reasonably well-built, and (2) It is located in Nebraska.

Unfortunately, if your  home is located in Florida, or any other area that might actually be hit by a hurricane, most insurance companies would prefer not to sell you hurricane insurance, because then they might be required to pay YOU money, and that is certainly not why they got into the insurance business in the first place. So you'll have to scrounge around for an insurance company, which will charge you an annual premium roughly equal to the replacement value of your house. At any moment, this company can drop you like used dental floss. Since Hurricane  Andrew, most Floridians have had an estimated 27 different home-insurance companies. This week, I'm covered by the Bob and Big Stan Insurance Company,  under a policy which states that, in addition to my premium, Bob and Big Stan  are entitled, on demand, to my kidneys.

SHUTTERS: Your house should have hurricane shutters on all the  windows, all the doors, and -- if it's a major hurricane -- all the toilets.  There are several types of shutters, with advantages and  disadvantages:

Plywood shutters: The advantage is that, because you make them yourself, they're cheap. The disadvantage is that, because you make them yourself, they will fall off.

Sheet-metal shutters: The advantage is that these work well, once you get them all up. The disadvantage is that once you get them all up, your hands will be useless bleeding stumps, and it will be December.

Roll-down shutters: The advantages are that they're very easy to use, and will definitely protect your house. The disadvantage is that you will have to sell your house to pay for them.

Hurricane-proof windows: These are the newest wrinkle in hurricane
protection:  They look like ordinary windows, but they can withstand hurricane winds! You can be sure of this, because the salesman says so. He lives in Nebraska.

HURRICANE PROOFING YOUR  PROPERTY: As the hurricane approaches,  check your yard for movable objects like barbecue grills, planters, patio
furniture,
visiting relatives, etc... You should, as a precaution, throw these
items
into your swimming pool (if you don't have a swimming pool, you should
have
one built immediately). Otherwise, the hurricane winds will turn these objects into deadly missiles.

EVACUATION ROUTE: If you live in a low-lying area, you should have an evacuation route planned out. (To determine whether you live in a low-lying area, look at your driver's license; if it says "Florida," you live in a low-lying area). The purpose of having an evacuation route is to avoid being trapped in your home when a major storm hits. Instead, you will be trapped in a gigantic traffic jam several miles from your home, along with two hundred  thousand other evacuees. So, as a bonus, you will not be lonely.

HURRICANE SUPPLIES: If you don't evacuate, you will need a mess of supplies. Do not buy them now! Florida tradition requires that you wait until the last possible minute, then go to the supermarket and get into vicious fights with strangers over who gets the last can of SPAM. In addition to food and water, you will need the following supplies:

23 flashlights. At least $167 worth of batteries that, when the power goes off, turn out to be the wrong size for the flashlights.

Bleach. (No, I don't know what the bleach is for. NOBODY knows what the bleach is for, but it's traditional, so GET some!)

55 gallon drum of underarm deodorant.

A big knife that you can strap to your leg. (This will be useless in a hurricane, but it looks cool.)

A large quantity of raw chicken, to placate the alligators. (Ask anybody who went through Andrew; after the hurricane, there WILL be irate
alligators.)

$35,000 in cash or diamonds so that, after the hurricane  passes, you can buy a generator from a man with no discernible teeth.

Of course these are just basic precautions. As the hurricane draws near, it is vitally important that you keep abreast of the situation by turning on your television and watching TV reporters in rain slickers standing right next to the ocean and tell you over and over how vitally important it is for everybody to stay away from the ocean.

Good luck, and remember: It's great living in Paradise.

It's all mind over matter. If you don't mind it doesn't matter...

Re: What's the latest in Florida?

thanks for the updates, auendove.  the super-charged air you refer to must be kind of cool to experience, but scary too, i'm sure.  i hope your mate is wrong and you don't lose electricity so you can keep taking those soothing hot showers and (selfishly) so you keep posting and letting us all know what's going on.  still sending those good protection vibes your way and hoping you all ride out the storm safely.   palulukon - it sounds like you write from experience, so i guess you're there too?  hope you ride out the storm safely, too.

Re: What's the latest in Florida?

<palulukon - it sounds like you write from experience, so i guess you're there too?  hope you ride out the storm safely, too.>

Oh veritas, my apologizes...I guess I should have indicated that my post was a joke(not original)...

thanks for your kind wishes anyway...

palulukon

It's all mind over matter. If you don't mind it doesn't matter...

83 (edited by Auendove 2004-09-04 17:24:22)

Re: What's the latest in Florida?

palulukon,

Very funny indeed... wink

palulukon wrote:

55 gallon drum of underarm deodorant.

Wouldn't ya know... I've just run out!  Never matters just how one thinks they're prepared, they'll soon find out they're not :x:.  I refuse to go back out into that heat for toxic deodorant.... powder works. So does cornstarch... big_smile 

On a serious note--

I'm not quite sure if others who frequent NR have ever been in FL in Aug./Sept, but the climate is pretty close to hellishly hot.  I was very aware of how those folks in the aftermath of Charley were without AC.... trust me, they were miserably hot.  In the bigger scheme of things (homelessness, etc.) this may seem like a little thing, but it's not... life in FL without AC is harsh.

Although they'd be prayers against all odds, a deep falling cold front would do us good at this point...

veritas wrote:

...the super-charged air you refer to must be kind of cool to experience, but scary too...

veritas,

Heheheh.... Mariah, the wind, is one force of nature I have actively sought out during my life, as if it was a curiousity, and as well a "boon"... I've never been beyond stepping outside into the wind, at any time, and just standing there, or laying if I'd be apt to be blown over.  Charged particles have a nuance unto themselves, and I like them... a lot. big_smile  Interesting to maybe me alone, but I've been living with my heightened "electric body" for almost two months now... the charged particles I now write of are really zappy.  I'm now concentrating some effort on grounding... heheheh, good time to ground, eh?

Speaking/writing as a Floridian, we've become very lucky on the east coast of FL that Frances reduced in veracity (especially for economic/tourist income reasons), but, DAMN! that woman has an eye 8O miles wide!  Not to mention she's way, way bigger than the state now.  It's going to rain like cats and dogs in this state folks!

Arf! Arf! Arf! big_smile

For all of you that have been sharing well wishes and prayers for the best outcome for all concerning Charley and Frances... Thank You!!! 

May I now introduce y'all to Ivan?  He's hanging awfully low.... kwap.  They give him a week to arrive...

I don't mind at all saying/asking... it's time to put it into overdrive on the well wishes and prayers! 

Outside of deodorant roll I have everything I could possibly need... I spoke to my Man/Child a little bit ago and, as usual, he told me "It's all good Moms, no worries... "

big_smile

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Hey all,

Auendove, hope you make it through safely. Looks like the storms coming your way. As for us, we outran the thing and are currently in North Carolina, staying at a motel and heading toward Virginia soon. Glad to see the forum's doing well smile Well, I'm writing this at a Kinkos so my time is limited, just wanted to check in and say hi from the road.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

85 (edited by lyra 2004-09-05 09:46:44)

Re: What's the latest in Florida?

Hi all!    Well, sometime later I'd like to get on here and post what we saw and what happened when we were trying to leave Florida, and stuck on the turnpike when there were 2 million other people trying to evacuate at the same time.  Holy cow.  Don't have time to get into it here and now though, but it was a total survivalist adventure....my car trying to overheat on me, traffic ground to a standstill, over 10 HOURS to make the 88 mile stretch between Vero Beach and Orlando....using the break down lane to bypass the traffic that wasn't moving anymore, dodging "Vigalante" drivers who tried to block us from using the breakdown lane, dodging State Troopers, all the while communicating fast and furiously on our 2-way Motorola radios as our plans were changing literally, every second with every new obstacle and situation.    Luckily, I'm born for that sort of thing, so, we done good.  wink   We made it out, is all I can say, and we made it out probably 10 - 12 hours sooner than others stuck in that parking lot who didn't have 2-way radios, didn't use the bypass lanes, and didn't find the useful alternate route off the main road that we wound up using.   I look back at it all and it was a surreal nightmare.   It didn't seem real.    Oh yeah, and we got to drive through all these podunk towns in north Florida and into Georgia, with lopsided weather beaten shacks, broken down cars on the lawn, general stores....I didn't know people lived like this in 2004.   It's seriously the land that time forgot.   I had heard about it....but I've never seen it.   2004...you'd never believe it when you're in those towns....

It's been surreal yet cool.  The first part of the trip was an absolute nightmare, but once we cleared Florida, it became a cool adventure.   Anyway, will post more later...

(Edit sidenote:   I really recommend getting good quality 2-way radios (walkie talkies).   Look into it if you don't already have this capability.    Not something that's connected to a cell phone either and which would be down if cell phones were down.   We have battery operated Motorolas, with a 5 mile radius, and multiple channel capabilities, special ring features, etc. and these radios were a Godsend.  They are what made this trip possible.   Eveyrthing was changing second by second, and I don't know how it would have been possible without them.   It's an EXCELLENT survivalist tool!)

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: What's the latest in Florida?

lyra wrote:

dodging "Vigalante" drivers who tried to block us from using the breakdown lane, dodging State Troopers, all the while communicating fast and furiously on our 2-way Motorola radios as our plans were changing literally, every second with every new obstacle and situation.    Luckily, I'm born for that sort of thing, so, we done good.  ;)   We made it out, is all I can say, and we made it out probably 10 - 12 hours sooner than others stuck in that parking lot who didn't have 2-way radios, didn't use the bypass lanes, and didn't find the useful alternate route off the main road that we wound up using.   I look back at it all and it was a surreal nightmare.   It didn't seem real

that's amazing. that happened to me once on I-10 in Houston with the 'vigilantes' on the shoulder. people trying to wreck you because you're driving past them.

glad to hear all is well!

I am as is Void.

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montalk, lyra, and ALL!

Finally! My computer complied with me. The storm is set to exit the state smack dab in my area!  HA!  It's very windy right now, one tree right outside my sliding glass door has lost three limbs, there are palm fronds down also.  The parking lot is littered in leaf and small branch debris.  The electricity keeps going on and off so I'm off.

There was some cool kite flying all over the 'hood last night! wink

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Lyra wrote:

All I can say is, remember how we were all once talking about how when you're ready and prepared for something to happen (Y2K, etc.) then it doesn't happen?   That's probably the case with this.     Everybody around me is preparing for this thing to the fullest extent possible.   So that can only mean one thing....it won't hit here.

One of the largest, if not the largest evacuations occurred in Florida because of Frances.  People definitely took this storm seriously and many people left, well in advance of Frances hitting land.
By the time she did land, she had been downgraded from a Cat. 4 - my step daughter and several friends arrived on Thursday night from Miami Beach, coming directly west on Alligator Alley. 

I've been thinking about the above quote from Lyra and how it applies.  How "knowledge protects"
possibly even in the case of potential natural disasters.

This seems to validate the age old saying "As above, so below" (or however it goes). 

If we change the vibration below, it appears to change that above and vice versa.

So, if on the material plane we prepare and are not blindsided, this changes the vibration.

"As above, so below" continues to take on a deeper meaning for me.  How every thought I have affects my life and those of others.  As well as every action.

I cannot help but be thankful to Tom for this board ... as more knowledge makes its way across the world.  (see newest post from Roumania ... pretty cool)

Christine B.

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lyra wrote:

"Vigalante" drivers who tried to block us from using the breakdown lane, dodging State Troopers, all the while communicating fast and furiously on our 2-way Motorola radios as our plans were changing literally, every second with every new obstacle and situation.   


podunk towns in north Florida and into Georgia, with lopsided weather beaten shacks, broken down cars on the lawn, general stores....I didn't know people lived like this in 2004.   It's seriously the land that time forgot.   I had heard about it....but I've never seen it.   2004...you'd never believe it when you're in those towns....

response one...sounds like the Rockford files lol.

response two...my, a sheltered existence...take a drive through Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Virgina etc...very common place, called country living lol.

It's all mind over matter. If you don't mind it doesn't matter...

90 (edited by Auendove 2004-09-06 11:45:35)

Re: What's the latest in Florida?

Hi everybody!

We finally have our electricity back on!  Yipee!  It completely went off just a few moments after I made my last post about 24hrs. ago.  There seems to be minimal damage, the trees are pretty tore up all around and there's one building where the roof was tore off, at least that I know of there's only one (I haven't really been anywhere smile ). It rained for 12 hrs. straight, no kidding.

All I can say for now is this hasn't been too bad. Our greatest gust winds were at about 60 mph, Charley had sustained winds almost twice that amount... those people went through hell.

One classic moment though?  At about 3:30 AM this morning Monster (the kitty) and I were sitting at the opened sliding glass doors (awesome cool breeze!) watching the storm and a BIG OLE wind gust flew by with a huge palm frond, she and I simultaneiously looked at each other with the same exact look, a look that said, "Whoa! Dudette! Did you see that?"

big_smile

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol