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Topic: Addiction to drama.. is that what keeps us here?

Something that I've been paying a lot of attention to lately is what really blocks manifestation and keeps people on the hamster wheel of despair.  Once I really began to think about it, I realized that this might be the main factor in keeping people on the Karmic Wheel as well.

I've always noticed that people who expect the worst generally receive the worst.  In the past, I assumed their outlook on life drew the bad stuff to them even more, and I still think that.  But maybe there's more too it.  Maybe, just as the Archons, Predators, demons, (insert different name for the same theory here) are addicted to the substance humans secrete when they're in pain and fear, people are addicted to these emotions as well.

Our movie theaters are jam-packed with movies depicting torture, rape, horror, and gore.  Even the romantic comedies are filled with the suffering and obsession of "love."  The more a movie causes its viewers to emote, the more popular it is. 

Perhaps physical life is becoming a drama-laden adventure much like the movies and television people watch.  Perhaps what keeps us tied to the physical plane is an actual addiction to suffering.  I know this is nothing new, but I'm beginning to see it in a different light.

I've watched people get addicted to the paranoia and rage that comes with seeing what goes on behind the scenes in this Matrix we live in, whether their angle is NWO, aliens, or the Christianized version.  I myself have felt the tug, almost like being caught just outside of a strong eddy.  I feel that if I stare too long at the center, I might be sucked in completely.   The trick is to see what's in the eddy and know it for what it is without being taken under with it.  As soon as I find the sure-fire key to that, I'll be sure to let you know!  wink

The reason I've been thinking about this so deeply is because there's someone in my life who's been addicted to suffering, paranoia, powerlessness, and anxiety for so long that he/she is in danger of falling apart physically.  I don't even know how to bring this up to him/her, because if I do, I'll be labeled as being 'not willing to see the truth,' or 'naive,' or even being 'under the influence of dark forces.'  I don't believe any of these to be the case, and I generally cast a fairly sober eye at things.  But I feel there is a point at which one can wallow in the darkness so long and so deeply that they're no longer an observer, but a part of it.  Maybe darkness is addictive whether you're reveling in it or so-called battling it.

If this is the case, how does one walk that fine line between seeing the darkness behind reality and getting caught up in the high drama of it all?  Is there a drama-done treatment or a suffering-replacement patch?

  • Registered: 2006-08-21

Re: Addiction to drama.. is that what keeps us here?

I've always thought the need to even exist was an addiction. Something we have to ween ourselves off of. Most spiritual masters talk about being neutral to go beyond this. But, it is hard because you always have something poking you with a stick to get the loosh out of you and then they leave enough for you to get off on as well.  I guess you get to the point where nothing the matrix reality can give you is worth staying in it. It's just junk.

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Re: Addiction to drama.. is that what keeps us here?

I agree belljar.  Well put.
We keep getting suckered into this amusement park.
A very relevant topic, lono.

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If I thought it was the green grass, clear running streams, my dog's brown eyes and my cat's soft fur keeping me here, more power to it.  But I don't think it is those things as much as the pain and suffering.  Belljar, you said it exactly the right way, that we have loosh taken from us and we get a hit at the same time.  What's the key to stopping "the hit"?

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Re: Addiction to drama.. is that what keeps us here?

Eckhart Tolle discusses the "pain-body" in most of his writings. He calls it a semi-autonomous energy field that feeds on negative emotions. It starts out as a dark or somber mood that seems to come out of nowhere. It then causes the persons thoughts to become deeply negative and in turn produce more emotional pain.  When a person is under the influence of the pain-body he will unconsciously seek out more pain, hate, anger, sadness.  The only remedy is to increase awareness and not identify with the triggering thought or emotion. If an unavoidable life event occurs that produces some anger or grief, an accident or sickness, it's important not to let the mind take it and run with it, looking for reasons why "my life sucks".

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Re: Addiction to drama.. is that what keeps us here?

Wow, very relevent. In my most recent feelings of depression, pain and anger; I have noticed that "hit" of enjoyment lurking beneath the surface of emotions. It was enough to make me almost completely forget about what I was feeling or why.

I've also noticed these feelings usually ARE coming out of nowhere, dug up from the past to re-surface, usually at a time of increased stress and whatnot, basically maximum "loosh" potential times.

This "hit" could also be coming from the entities that are harvesting such loosh, like their enjoyment crossing over into us (which triggers further reactions?)

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Freeyourmind, thank you for sharing your experience.  It's true, isn't it!?  Listening to dark music (Goth is a perfect example), wallowing in our own darkness, sinking into depression.  We DO get a hit from these feelings.  I can remember hating music that could be considered "happy" in the slightest, even if it was just upbeat techno.   When I was in one of those "moods" it was do dissonant with my state of mind, it was like fingernails on a chalkboard.

When I look back at my life when I was younger, I can remember wallowing and wallowing in those feelings, seeking out sensations of doom.  Back then, I got the greatest "dose" from Christianity.  This was when I was first dabbling in metaphysical thought, and spent years-- from 18 to 20 or so-- worrying about whether alternative thought was going to destroy my soul.  So I'd get on a kick where I'd listen to Christian talk radio, and it was an addiction. 

Feeling bad about myself felt good; worrying about whether demons had been influencing my thought during my explorations felt good.  Not the honest feel-good you get from a job well done, accomplishing something new or having a breakthrough realization;  the dirty feel-good, like you might have while looking at porn.  The greasy, slimy, grimy feel-good a heroin addict might get when the needle goes in. 

I can remember that, and I can remember more fleeting feelings over the years, when I let my guard down.   

Weopposedeception, I read Tolle's book years ago, and I absolutely loved it.  It was the right time for me to read it and it was part of  a mini-awakening.  I'd forgotten about the pain-body!  I guess I must have absorbed that knowledge and made it part of me, even though I don't remember it off-hand.

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Re: Addiction to drama.. is that what keeps us here?

I would have said that addiction to drama is what makes us think it is a bad thing to be here.

And love is what actually keeps us here experiencing the beauty of earth and each other in physical form.

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Re: Addiction to drama.. is that what keeps us here?

Excitement, change, the flow of energy. Either way, like the fictional(?) vampire and his victim, we get to like it. Just an opinion, but Athenias, you're talking about the flow "up", Lono the flow "down". Either way feels good... for a while. Lono, I know exactly what you mean. Down is so easy and seductive. WeOpposeDeception, I've read Montalk's ideas on loosh collectors but never read Tolle. Thanks.

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.

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Nope, I'm not talking about being on the "up" side of a cycle, I'm talking about being in a different kind of flow altogether. 

For me it really IS all about the green grass, the trees, the flowers, the hills, fresh air, sunlight, kitty cats, my mom, my best friend.  Often when I think about my life, and what I am here for, I feel like there really isn't any other reason for me to be here.  There are plenty of things I can do to be useful, but they are not required.  I have friends waiting on the other side who I would love to be with right now.  What would break my heart is leaving my cats and my family here on earth...not that it would mean being separated forever, certainly not!  But it would mean missing out on being with them in this particular time and place.

You are welcome to reinterpret what I said to suit your own worldview, but it doesn't change my intended meaning, or my experience.

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Athenais wrote:

Nope, I'm not talking about being on the "up" side of a cycle, I'm talking about being in a different kind of flow altogether. 

For me it really IS all about the green grass, the trees, the flowers, the hills, fresh air, sunlight, kitty cats, my mom, my best friend.  Often when I think about my life, and what I am here for, I feel like there really isn't any other reason for me to be here.  There are plenty of things I can do to be useful, but they are not required.  I have friends waiting on the other side who I would love to be with right now.  What would break my heart is leaving my cats and my family here on earth...not that it would mean being separated forever, certainly not!  But it would mean missing out on being with them in this particular time and place.

You are welcome to reinterpret what I said to suit your own worldview, but it doesn't change my intended meaning, or my experience.

Oh, I'm with you on that.  I would say that my life is now centered around these things, and I'm much more comfortable with being on this Earth plane.  If I were told that after this time around was over I would have the option of leaving... I certainly wouldn't go now.  Truth be told, I might stay for another go-round, knowing that I'd mastered the things in life that make this place a beautiful place to be.

I'm actually very fond of being physical, and my hope is that someday we can transform right where we are now, much as Bob Monroe saw when he visited Earth's future.  When I speak of "being on the wheel," I don't necessarily mean physical existence itself.  I see it as being the karmic cycle of being stuck.  And like you, I wouldn't even think of leaving my little family of animals, and the same goes for my husband and my family. 

I think that even here on this physical plane, there are many sub-planes of existence based on what types of experiences you choose to have. 

LOL-- I don't know if any of what I said makes any sense!  Just stream of consciousness here.

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What you said makes plenty of sense to me Lono smile