Topic: kidspeak

There are so many insightful-inspiring-thoughtful-intelligent-tolerant-beautiful-positive-graceful threads happening lately.  It amazes me how every one and every thing seems to be truly connecting.  I do so love this forum.

Might I ask, while you're all on such a roll, if a child (pre-teen) ever said to you, "Sometimes, when I was little, and I was playing with my doll house, I used to wonder if people weren't just like dolls in some way.  You know, like, what if someone was playing with us the same way I was playing with them.  Do you ever wonder about stuff like that?", what would you say? 

What if a teenager started asking you about your thoughts on the "true" nature of dreams, or on John Lennon and The Beatles, or about aliens and the like, how would you respond?

If any one here has any thoughts, suggestions, or experiences they'd like to share about talking to kids about these sorts of things, I'd really appreciate hearing them.  Thanks, folks.

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Talking to kids about these things is great because they tend to have innocent wonder instead of the cynical skepticism. I would briefly and simply tell them my view on the matter, then segue into a socratic discussion that guides them toward further contemplation of the possibilities. When I used to drive my younger brothers and their friends places, they would take the opportunity to barrage me with a back-load of questions about these things. And when I would fill them in, it was fun to see their faces light up with amazement at finally understanding some mystery, their going "whoaaaa" as they pondered possibilities that stretched their imagination.

When two or three years old, I saw a TV episode about a family whose house started shaking and tilting. They looked out the window and saw a giant girl lifting and playing with their house as though it were a small dollhouse. That episode disturbed my little toddler brain like nothing else because it touched on an important but dimly remembered truth concerning hyper-dimensional beings doing similarly to us. I've always had a fascination with miniatures for this reason, as though reliving what it is like to be a higher being arranging and experimenting with the linear experiences of the lower self.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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Lilmomma,
       With all the love you can muster....tell them what you 'know' is true. Most of all encourage openess and free will. Einstein said when asked how he developed his theory of relativity that he "ignored an axiom". Ignoring axioms seems to me the best approach to all mysteries. Accept nothing at face value, question everything!

" The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it "

Ayn Rand

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lilmomma wrote:

Might I ask, while you're all on such a roll, if a child (pre-teen) ever said to you, "Sometimes, when I was little, and I was playing with my doll house, I used to wonder if people weren't just like dolls in some way.  You know, like, what if someone was playing with us the same way I was playing with them.  Do you ever wonder about stuff like that?", what would you say?

I had exactly the same feeling when I was a little girl, in fact I commented on it in another thread here recently.  But as a child I never told anyone that.  I never felt comfortable sharing my real thoughts with anyone because no one really listened to me or took me seriously.

What I wish someone had told me then, is to always trust my own feelings and instincts.  I wish someone would have encouraged me to think for myself and explore my own ideas.  I wish that sometimes adults would have just let me talk without making judgements on what I had to say.

Adults are sometimes too quick to exert their influence over a young person and try to mold them to their own way of thinking.  The best you can do is simply be honest about how you see things.  And then give them space to think about it, or to share what they think.

Be aware too that sometimes kids will pretend they are looking for your opinion, when they are actually just testing the waters to see if it is safe to tell you something that they have seen or experienced.

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Lilmomma, thank you so much for starting this thread. I am in the middle of struggling with this as well. My boy is 5 now and I so want to raise him to be an aware child. I want him to be able to tell me anything. And I really want to be able to explain things to him.  It's very hard now because he's so young. But I do try to allow him to tell me anything. I don't tell him to 'go play' when he's trying to relay a dream he had. I put him on my lap and ask him all about it.  Lately, he's been having bad dreams but he won't tell me what they are. I had a lot of bad dreams growing up, and I hope that he isn't going to grow up as confused as me.  I think some of the bad ones are about me and he doesn't want to say anything or scare me.

Athenais, I appreciate your answer. It makes a lot of sense and I will heed those words when it comes time to dealing with my own life. Thank you for your honesty. Very insightful...I only hope that I can do this right! I only have one chance, ya know!

I was actually thinking about starting a thread like this, because I truly need help in figuring out how to raise an aware child from scratch. I only became aware in the past 5 years. What I'd give to have been this aware from the start...

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I would/do tell them, "what do YOU think?", of course I would give my opinion, but tell them that life is full of 'possibilities' and to use their 'imaginations':)

~JOYce~

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I used to wonder if dreams were real, like they really happened, as in, I went somewhere else in my sleep and had adventures and stuff.

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Thanks for sharing so many excellent points, every one.  I’ll do my best to keep them all in mind.  I figured this would be a good place to find sound advice. 

I remember seeing that post, Athenais.  It actually got me to thinking about the first time I ever questioned the world around me.  I have this vivid memory of puddle-jumping my way home from elementary school one early spring day.  I heard geese honking overhead and stopped momentarily to glance up at them.  Blinded by the sun, I lifted my hand to shade my eyes when all of a sudden this thought-whisper struck me from out of nowhere.  "None of this is real".  I blinked and took a good look around to assure myself that "of course it's real, silly-billy!". 

I saw naked branches drip-drip-dripping, red rubber boots all shiny and wet, piles of mud-splashed, exhaust-stained snow stretching down along the sidewalks and way up there above the rooftops was the flock I'd heard streaming its way north under an endless blue sky.  Yet the certainty I'd known not a minute before didn't return.  I closed my eyes and felt sunbeams kiss my rosy-red cheeks.  I took a deep gulp of crispy breeze…held it…let it out…then took another before opening my eyes.  Nope.  Even though everything was still there, I really had no way to prove it was there and I couldn't shake the feeling that somehow it was all fake.  Phony-bologna!  No longer was seeing necessarily believing.  Pardon the plagiarism, Montalk, but your words fit here all too well.  It disturbed my little grade-school brain like nothing else. 

Anyway, my young lady asked me that question, concidentally, just a few days after pondering all this as we were driving down to an off-leash hill here in town so I was able to share my little story with her and hopefully open a dialogue.  It sounds to me like you’re off to a great start to doing the same with your boy, Seeking.  (BTW, I almost PM’d you about the Tesla lyrics the other day.  For you to post that particular song at that particular time was extremely meaningful to me in many-many ways.  Thank you SO MUCH!)

Mutant Mouse, those are some of the same kinds of things that my young man’s been wondering lately.  We talked about it for a bit and I sent him the dreamviews website but now I wonder if that was the right thing to do.  Magical Mongoose said somewhere that he got a message from them without posting on their forum so I hope I didn’t expose him to any thing/one…um…troublesome.

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lilmomma wrote:

It sounds to me like you’re off to a great start to doing the same with your boy, Seeking.  (BTW, I almost PM’d you about the Tesla lyrics the other day.  For you to post that particular song at that particular time was extremely meaningful to me in many-many ways.  Thank you SO MUCH!)

You are so very welcome! smile While reading the post in question, that song literally slammed into my head. I haven't heard it in years, but I love it. I knew I had to find the lyrics for it and post them onto Sam's thread. It seemed very fitting. Since that day, I find the song running thru my head a lot. I think I needed that...It helps me get thru the day. Along with Carole King's song about being as beautiful as you feel, and showing the world all the love in your heart.  Keeps everything in perspective...