• Registered: 2007-01-04

Re: Climate change make the headlines...

you know who likes warm climates? reptiles, that's who hmm

My People Were Fair And Had Sky In Their Hair...But Now They're Content To Wear Stars On Their Brows

-Tyrannosaurus rex

17 Reply by thr33tim3 (edited by thr33tim3 2007-02-05 17:34:49)

  • Registered: 2006-03-10

Re: Climate change make the headlines...

Interestingly enough, I just checked in at Educate Yourself after a several-month-break, and found my old amigo Ken posting on the Global Warming Gambit as well! Have you read John Coleman's work (The Commitee Of 300)? His new book on Tavistock is apparently great, haven't read it yet myself though.

http://educate-yourself.org/lte/globalw … ep06.shtml


Update, Feb. 3, 2007. Currently, we are being bombarded with a torrent of propaganda titled "Global Warming"   Every TV and radio news broadcast, every TV talk show that touches on politics, every radio talk show, every major news stand magazine and newspaper are singing in almost perfect unison: "The Sky is Falling Unless We Do Something Soon about Global Warming"!

I just spoke on the phone yesterday with Dr. John Coleman, author of  The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations: Shaping the Moral, Cultural, Political, and Economic Decline of the United States of America. He vigorously concurred that the 'Global Warming' blitz is a classic Tavistock propaganda campaign of the highest priority. Apparently, no effort or amount of money or 'expert scientific opinion' is being spared to bring us this 'inconvenient truth' so that we might all become convinced that the story line laid out by the propagandists is true, and therefore we must acquiesce to the new "regulations" or laws that will be set in place to "prevent the catastrophes that will surely ensue if we don't curb Global Warming"'. I've been hearing some of the most absurd and ludicrous statements over the radio from Global Warming 'experts' concerning the dire "consequences" that will follow within 50-100 years if we don't follow their recommendations to 'put the brakes on Global Warming'. It's an insult to the intelligence of every human being on this planet to accept this unbridled hokum from those who posture themselves as 'leading academic scientists' and authorities on this subject (read Rockefeller/Rothchild-controlled talking heads)

Funny enough, Shoogie, in the HandClow book, there is a channeling by a reptilian consciousness, and it is berating us humans for messing up the environment because there is not enough WET, and HUMID SWAMPLAND for the reptiles! So actually, a desert environment is not necesarily what reptiles would like. I'll post the quote when I find it later..

Tim

  • Registered: 2006-06-22

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I'll throw in a a few quick points;  The "battle" if we are to call it that, is not completely one-sided.  If it were it would either be a lot worse or the game would be over at this point in time.  There is usefulness to numerous things that have been coming out, it is not necessarily a case of these things or people being one side or the other.  For example there is some good info from Icke, and there is some good info from "The Secret", but you may also note some flaws in it.  Have you ever made a mistake or done something 'wrong'?  Of course, as do others, so discernement is required at all times.

To my knowledge the game being played has been played before Belljar, last time we lost.

I'm not convinced on modern dating methods or any assumption that works via averages to draw conclusions as discussed.  The mammoth with food in it's mouth and other cases like it could go either way as to whether the animal froze suddenly  due to climate or situation.  Numerous reports have supported the potency of methane pollution over carbon dioxide as Barefoot Doc has mentioned.  You may note there is strong data for a decrease in conversion by forests, when the forests (the trees within) are under stress.  This may be logging, fire or other.

I agree with most of what Montalk has said.  With knowledge of changed solar activity, it should still not take away focus on our contributions.  The sun will do it's thing and we must do ours.  I'd rather the populous remains unaware of changes in solar activity as I imagine for most people, they would then have the idea "Well nothing we can do" or "So it's not us after all", promoting complacency.

On the time side, those interested may wish to check out the hydrate hypothesis.

Love is Knowledge is Light
  • Registered: 2005-07-09

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FWIW, another message from raphiem/missionignition/the blue. Fits right in with this thread... hmm should I copy/paste the whole thing? or just a piece with a link to the rest, hmmm...

http://groups.google.com/group/missioni … 5a3e623e8a

this universe ... galaxy ... solar system ... are all undergoing a cosmic
warming .... as the frequencies increase ..... this is all natural as the
universal tuning forks come into alignment ....

when i was in greenpeace as a teenager thinking i was fighting against
global warming caused by greedy industry etc for only blue to tell me ...
that global warming was not really caused by pollution and toxins in the
atomsphere .... perhaps some ailments and diseases may have been but not
global warming .... (another good reason to ignore the blue voice at that
age) .... can you imagine if i told my greenpeace buddies that global
warming was not caused by polluting industries .... they would have burned
me at the stakes ...

now i usually get flamed by emails when i mention the below .... some blue
facts about earth...

in the beginning  ...

1. earth never had polar caps ....
2. earth never had an ozone layer ...
3. earth was not 23.5 degrees tilted on it axis ...
4. earth had two moons
5. earth year was = to 360 days ... not 365.25 days

the reason why we have polar caps and an ozone layer and 23.5 degrees tilt
is because of an asteroid impact which broke earth's spine / fracture ...
evaporated almost everything and anything it touched causing ozone to be
produced as minerals were ionized ... covered the sky/sun for 5000 yrs
causing an ice age ... etc etc .... causing the magnetic fields / lay lines
to go haywire ... the impact slowed earths rotation around the sun by a
fraction  causing the days in a year to extend ...

simple fact of life folks ....

earth is thawing out ... its/your frozen hearts that are warming up
(thawing) ...

earth inner core is warming up as the cosmic frequencies are vibrating
faster ...

Read the rest of the article...

  • Registered: 2006-03-10

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Matthew presents his usual upbeat and reassuring view of current events:

http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewe … 68&z=2
Messages from MATTHEW
February 3, 2007 [excerpt]

And then there is the musing about the possibility that the stepped-up UFO sightings are not all extraterrestrial spacecraft, but similar appearing craft built on Earth as a prelude to declaring that aliens are going to invade.  What better way to distract you not only from a prolonged war in Iraq, but from all other situations worldwide that have been getting increased attention–other Illuminati-instigated population-reducing fronts of genocide, starvation, AIDS and other laboratory-designed viruses, not to mention global warming, which has reached center stage with scientists speaking out about the US government’s suppression of their findings?

Actually, despite President Bush’s refusal to acknowledge that the obvious changes in climate are significant–again by orders of the Illuminati, who own most of the oil–Earth herself is responsible for many of the changes.  As the most obvious of the decreases in the overall polarity that has long prevailed, the melting polar regions and other weather anomalies herald a return to the worldwide moderate climate that once blessed all of the planet’s inhabitants.  Frigid wastelands will become temperate, deserts will become arable, seas will be purified, rain forests and food crops will flourish, skies will be clear–Earth will have regained her full health and everyplace will offer desirable living.

Yes, we do understand the difficulty in believing that such a turnaround would be possible in even a century or two, much less a few years.  But it is so.  Long-suppressed technologies are emerging in transportation, medical, pollution riddance, food production, water purification and other fields, and when your star nation helpers can overtly join you, they will bring even more advanced methods to restore Earth to her once-paradise self.  That is a certainty, yet there is this vital consideration: Who will reside on the planet then?  I’m not speaking about the masses of souls whose bodies will die  from the prevailing causes all too well known, but those with healthy bodies whose pre-birth contracts permit many more years of physical life.  How many besides you light workers and light weavers are prepared spiritually for the forthcoming revelations about the dark deception that for millennia have controlled populations?  How many can accept that of all the betrayers throughout history, their religions were the most successful?   

I do not mean to sound dire when I tell you that before your world reaches a near-Utopian environment, many, many millions will leave by choice or because their bodies cannot survive in the higher vibrations Earth is approaching in her ascension journey, now at an accelerated pace.  Situations always are in flux and their outcome cannot be cast in stone–free will reigns supreme, and everyone may exercise that Creator-endowed right, whether it is a turn to the light or to the darkness–but an overall picture can be assessed from the collective consciousness, and more numbers than you may expect will not choose to live throughout the short span between today and the greeting of the Golden Age.  And that is all right!  There is no penalty or punishment for those choices!  On the contrary, souls will be given as many opportunities as they need to master the experiencing they chose to accomplish this time around, whether in some other third density world or, in extreme cases, in a lower density placement with only a glimmer of primitive intelligence, a clean slate, so to say, with no cellular memory to overcome.

Tim

  • From: Megalex
  • Registered: 2005-04-12

Re: Climate change make the headlines...

thr33tim3 wrote:
sinaptix wrote:

I am really really suspicious of the whole mankind and mankind only is responsible for global warming. It probably is a lie by the very fact that it's become a mainstream thing. It must serve somebody's agenda in order to allow it to be mainstream.

This is often the hardest criteria of so many things that I read. The more people become aware of it, the more likely it seems that a concept is actually just an over-simplified ruse being used to deceive some section of the population. I felt this same way about What The Bleep and this new The Secret film. I feel the same way about yoga, reiki and all the mainstream "New Age"-oriented modalities purported to heal and relieve stress.

Yes. I feel the same way.
And...I know, it's so childish, but i MUST AGREE here: I hate "What The Bleep" and related...What a feckin' phoney fake... There is something about this film, not the ideas, but something else - and that something is just disgusting. But sorry, i cannot say what it is.  Maybe Fred Alan Wolf - i've never been able to take that guy seriously, i used to have some books by him...i read them and thought to myself: "What a retarded fool!"

http://www.bodhitree.com/lectures/image … .large.jpg

all the best,
X-zen.

It is of prime importance to recognize that just about everything we've been taught to expect as "normal" in our lives is the stuff of fairy tales and unrealistic dreams.
Theodore Isaac Rubin M.D.
  • From: O'ahu
  • Registered: 2006-05-26

Re: Climate change make the headlines...

The more people become aware of it, the more likely it seems that a concept is actually just an over-simplified ruse being used to deceive some section of the population

That seems a little elitist (the masses can't possibly know anything true

While I agree that it is obviously being pushed as part of some creepy agenda, that does not necessarily make it false.  TPTB are perfectly capable of using real events to further their agenda too.  Probably something on the order of eco-nazi green police state plans or something.  "We have to send you to our special halliburton built eco-villages to stop global warming" etc.

Could be false I suppose, but that is a major conspiracy to somehow involve pretty much everybody living in or even visiting the arctic (where the changes are pretty freakin' obvious and noticeable, especially to long time natives).

seeker of truth

follow no path
all paths lead where

truth is here

E.E. Cummings
  • Registered: 2006-03-10

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X-Zen, my thoughts exactly... but boy, aren't we SO negative and elitist, being critical of broad social movements and skeptical of what we're shown on TV?

I wish we could just cheer up and be happy, and then we would attract the like-energy to ourselves, and be surrounded by happy and cheerful people all day! Critical thought is getting us nowhere! roll

I'm happy that there are people with "childish" attitudes such as yours not getting roped in by any New Age dickhead with a big phoney smile and a huge bank account. Show me a poor, disabled person below the age of 30 from a non-white ethnic background going from rags and terror to abundance and joy by using the Laws Of Attraction and THEN I'll start believing its validity. Show me a success story more than just "I went from lower-middle class to upper-middle class by believing in my personal power!" Keep parading these middle-aged honky white bitches in front of me telling me "I just BELIEVED in myself and everything started to work out for me!", and see how sceptical I am. It sounds like Montel Williams talk-show material to me, and I genuinely feel compassion and sympathy for all the lives that are being thrown into disarray by these "use your power of thought manifestation to get happy and rich quick!" programming films.

Tim

  • Registered: 2006-03-10

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Limukala wrote:

That seems a little elitist (the masses can't possibly know anything true

The masses can know all sorts of things, what with the massive information over-load we've been subjected to for the past several decades! What the masses end up focusing on is another story.

Everyone on this board was at one time "part of the masses" and of course we all still are to a great degree, especially in the eyes of the controlling powers. There are now literally hundreds of channeled and New Age-oriented books (do a search on Ebay for "New Age lot" under books, its amazing), and many of them have different spins on the history of the world, the source of consciousness, the structuring of extra-dimensional realms, the nature of evil/polarities, the subtle/energy/etheric body anatomy, etc. If you are even able to wade through all the garbage that "the masses" are given by mainstream TV, newspapers, internet etc... and then wade through all the insane "conspiracy theory" mishmosh of disinfo/misinfo/real-info to get a sense that there is something going on here besides the 5-sense level of reality.... and then move through the New Age entrapping belief systems telling you to psychically connect with the Greys or St. Germaine or Kali or whoever else, or dedicate yourself to bringing in Sanat Kumara to bring peace to the world, or spend all your time trying to visualize your merkaba so you can ascend into the 5th D before sh*t goes down here..... you are left standing on the outside looking at this enormous pile of tens-of-thousands of pages of "information" feeling disappointed that you still can't figure any of it out, and the best you can do is try to be detached, think positive and take steps to make your own personal life/environment around you more balanced/healthy, and keep reading. I wasn't taught a mentality like that in all my years of public education as one of "the masses", and I assume they are still not teaching people to do this now.

I think every single individual who is part of "the masses" has all the potential in the world to make this unfolding journey of consciousness. All I know is that it has been the main focus in my life for the past five+ years, whereas pretty much all the people I meet in 3D (not counting the internet/this forum) are pretty much focusing on bad TV, bad media, poison food, and religious garbage. So I guess that is pretty elitist of me, but when I live in a world where I observe few others behaving even slightly as thoughtful as myself, I am left scratching my head and hoping that eventually I will "attract" like-minded people or find a community where I can actually have a positive influence in people's lives and not just work some minimum-wage part-time job keeping their pod-people systems going.

Tim

  • From: Megalex
  • Registered: 2005-04-12

Re: Climate change make the headlines...

Tim,
I can confront you with the fact, that almost all of those "happy & cheerful people" don't really see hear or feel.. that they fail to perceive continuously what really happens outside of their little (new)-aged egos, that they are not really connected to the world around them, that they don't recognise me as I am (saying "me" i mean The Other in general: "me" can be i myself, you, anyone...The Other), that they fear me and shut me out because of that fear. They also do not listen to, or see, or feel what goes on inside themselves, that they are not really aware of what is happeing inside them, that they are not connected with them-selves, with their toes, their stomachs, their hearts; that they shut out their true selves, that they live only in their heads and/or in their genitals, that they are afraid of it all, that all those cheerful folks are afraid of themselves. Fear draws boundaries both on the outside and the inside of our self. The boundary demarcating the outside is the same as the one demarcating the inside. You cannot clearly perceive the outer world, your relationships and the social system in which we live, without recognising your inner self. And you cannot understand the inner self and simultaneously keep your eyes shut in the face of all the misery in the world.
So all that misery they defend themselves against on the outside is also what they defend themselves against on the inside. What is not allowed to be true inside, does not exist outside as well. See, what i am getting at? I think that the whole new age mentality is a mask, a mask made of fear & hatred, but "sunny happy" people would never confess the fact, that on the iside they are just little wicked trolls, false to the core. I believe that is what i do not like about the whole crowd.
all the best,
X-zen

It is of prime importance to recognize that just about everything we've been taught to expect as "normal" in our lives is the stuff of fairy tales and unrealistic dreams.
Theodore Isaac Rubin M.D.
  • Registered: 2006-11-12

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XzenTriCo wrote:

So all that misery they defend themselves against on the outside is also what they defend themselves against on the inside. What is not allowed to be true inside, does not exist outside as well. See, what i am getting at? I think that the whole new age mentality is a mask, a mask made of fear & hatred, but "sunny happy" people would never confess the fact, that on the iside they are just little wicked trolls, false to the core. I believe that is what i do not like about the whole crowd.

Yes, anytime you try to hide your Shadow it always becomes obvious. But not all of them. In my experience the "new age" crowd has about the same proportion of good and bad as the so-called "masses". The new-age baddies are just more spectacular than the average street punk.

thr33tim3 wrote:

I think every single individual who is part of "the masses" has all the potential in the world to make this unfolding journey of consciousness. All I know is that it has been the main focus in my life for the past five+ years, whereas pretty much all the people I meet in 3D (not counting the internet/this forum) are pretty much focusing on bad TV, bad media, poison food, and religious garbage. So I guess that is pretty elitist of me, but when I live in a world where I observe few others behaving even slightly as thoughtful as myself, I am left scratching my head and hoping that eventually I will "attract" like-minded people or find a community where I can actually have a positive influence in people's lives and not just work some minimum-wage part-time job keeping their pod-people systems going.

A good point and thanks Tim. I'm going to start my daily practice with a "lost mode" that I meet more folks who are awake, independent and kindly souls and who I can help and can help me advance.

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.
  • Registered: 2006-03-10

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Xzen, very well said. It is very hard for people to even want to recognize that they are miserable. For a lot of people that is a big sign of weakness, and they won't even get started on examining their beliefs, etc because they're not "supposed to be" miserable, they're supposed to be strong and upbeat and cheerful! Its tricky for people who have a wider perspective because I don't want to hurt or offend people.... but then sometimes that seems like exactly what might be necessary. I think David Icke has talked about that kind of thing, sometimes its more important to wake someone up to a new way of seeing things even if it initially upsets them and seems like a "negative" thing to do to someone. But at the end of it, all you can do is just work on yourself, not others.

Starling, you're right, it is a good idea to think about how you CAN help and in the same way help yourself. I get very frustrated because I would like to feel as though I am of MORE help to people, and not just for example setting up computer accounts for them and feeling like we are on different levels. But it is all about patience too. I also know a lot of people really mean well but just have gotten such out-of-whack education or parenting or whatever, they may have a lot of "deprogramming" to work through. I don't want to let my frustration make me feel as though there is NOTHING I can do, I want to find ways to reach people who are different from me and share with them in an open way. Little steps. You never know what will make the difference, maybe just smiling at strangers more can help.

At least we can all chat with each other on NR. smile Thanks for letting me speak my mind
Tim

  • Registered: 2005-07-09

Re: Climate change make the headlines...

You probably saw this one already, global warming happening on other planets, Mars, Saturn, etc

National Geographic News wrote:

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news … source=rss

Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human- induced—cause, according to one scientist's controversial theory.

Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.

In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.

Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of the St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.

"The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said.

Solar Cycles

Abdussamatov believes that changes in the sun's heat output can account for almost all the climate changes we see on both planets.

Mars and Earth, for instance, have experienced periodic ice ages throughout their histories.

"Man-made greenhouse warming has made a small contribution to the warming seen on Earth in recent years, but it cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance," Abdussamatov said.

By studying fluctuations in the warmth of the sun, Abdussamatov believes he can see a pattern that fits with the ups and downs in climate we see on Earth and Mars.

Abdussamatov's work, however, has not been well received by other climate scientists.

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