Topic: calling aliens

On last night's show Art Bell asked his 15 million (!) listeners to go outside, think of a joyous moment in their lives and combine this with a focused intent that any  alien ships in the sky show themselves.

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.

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Yeah, that's typical Art Bell for you.       

Well, I'm asking all 1199 NR members to go outside, think for a moment about how precious freedom is, and combine this with a focused intent that all listening aliens set their ships to Warp 9, and get the hell out of our solar system pronto.  We've had enough of their shenanigans for one yuga, if you ask me. smile

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LOL morningsun76. Yeah we need to do this ourselves and stop expecting some outside force to fix our problems. We keep doing that and we keep getting used. When will we learn?

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I can't find the link, but there was some channeled material recently through which the aliens were asking the question "do you want us to show ourselves?"  and asking every reader to answer in their own minds, because if enough humans answered in the affirmative, then the aliens would actually be ALLOWED to appear en masse.  It has to be a freewill decision on the part of the humans first, for legal reasons. 

consent
1) n. a voluntary agreement to another's proposition. 2) v. to voluntarily agree to an act or proposal of another, which may range from contracts to sexual relations.

Source: http://dictionary.law.com/default2.asp? … ;bold=||||

"Consent" is a basic and fundamental concept in both civil and criminal law.    Anytime someone more powerful than you makes a special and specific request that you give consent for them to do something, you should immediately become suspicious, and take the time to figure out WHY they want to do whatever it is they are trying to do.   Because the whole point of laws requiring consent be given before certain actions can be undertaken, is to protect the rights of a person (or group of people) against actions that might otherwise tend to be harmful to them or their interests.

One simple example is that if you are stopped by the police for speeding, the police officer might ask you "do you have anything in the car you're not supposed to have?  Mind if I take a look?"   He's just feeling nosy and doesn't actually have any legal authority to search you, so he's asking for your consent.   See, he knows -- even though you don't --  that he can't search you YET, but if he gets your permission FIRST, then it will be all nice and legal.  He also knows that most people, when asked this question, will be very intimidated and say "OK" right away.  And the moment you do that, he now has the legal authority to search you, and anything he finds will be used against you -- possibly to put you in prison for a long time. 

Also notice -- and this very important -- that he did not TELL you that he was actually asking for consent for legal reasons.  He just asked you if you minded him looking in your car, and made you feel like you'd BETTER say yes, so you wouldn't look SUSPICIOUS.   But it was a trick, and the point was to get you to dig your own grave.   He learned that one in Police Training 101 ... REAL basic stuff.   He's required to get your consent, but he's NOT required to TELL you that he's required to get your consent.   And he's trained to make it seem like he's doing anything but.  And even though you didn't realize what you were doing when you said "OK,"  it juts doesn't matter ... it was your own fault.   You didn't know the law, and you didn't know your rights.   

If you were smart, you would have done like Nancy Reagan and just said NO.  Then if he had searched you anyway, you might be able to get the evidence thrown out in court on the basis of the search having been illegally conducted.   That's called "the fruit of the poisonous tree" doctrine.   I'm talking about American criminal law here, but the point is that the same concepts are pretty much "Universal."  Literally. 

Anyway, the point of my little digression here is that the same principle is involved when ETs are asking for consent to appear before humanity.  I think it's actually really amazing just how much evidence there is of a higher "cosmic law" that ETs are forced to follow.   That's bad news for the ETs, and good news for us -- if we are smart enough to realize it.  And that means taking the time to study, and learn what's going on, and learn to discern the reasons why certain things are happening. 

Now, if the ETs they were just asking for one person's permission to appear to that specific individual, that would be one thing.  But when they are employing a mass media "channel" like Art Bell, and getting him to request that MILLIONS of average people freely give consent to an ET appearance -- people who are NOT in a position to realize the full implications of what they are doing -- then there is something rotten going on in the state of Denmark.   The ETs would not be going to all this effort unless they believed that they stood to gain something very valuable as a result of making a mass appearance.     

And it's quite obvious what they're after.  The ETs know that most people today, upon hearing the exciting news that "aliens really are real!," would HAPPILY submit to a takeover.    A takeover which will be ushered in with promises of peace, unity, galactic brotherhood, discount video rentals, and all kinds of wonderful stuff.  And those silly humans will be having barbecues and outdoor music festivals welcoming the ETs, and carrying big signs that say "Abduct ME!" Just like that desert scene in Contact.    And there will be parades with great pageantry, and bands with trumpets, and drums, playing all kinds of inspiring music, like in V: The Original Miniseries.    And it will be a joyous occasion for all, and everyone will be happy.   And the aliens will be welcomed in with open arms.    And then, of course, a few years later, once the ET control system is well-established, then things go suddenly sour due to insurgent "terrorist" humans who try to spoil the party by claiming to be "free" and have "inalienable rights," and all sorts of other crazy nonsensical ideas.   And human society will have to be locked down (of course) in order to deal with the threat.   But we all know that drill by now, don't we?  Yawn.

Yes, that's what they're planning -- at this point it is painfully obvious -- and that's why education is so important.  Our ignorance is their greatest weapon, but our awareness is their critical vulnerability.

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Sounds again like the free will thing. We free willed ourselves again into allowing negative beings to manipulate and control us. I've heard on a ufo radio show that some expert said that they are on phase 3 of their contact. This is shown by their ufos being seen longer and more often. I'm not saying there aren't positive ETs I just don't think they need to be hiding in underground bases, abducting people for research and food, making secret deals with our elites and scaring people with their ufos. I don't know what a positive being would do but I would think it would be more of an astral encounter or they would just leave you alone to find your own way. But, when you are living on a polluted, war torn, climate change world you are probably going to take any kind of help and ask questions later. This is another part of the whole time loop thing it does feel like we keep doing this again and again giving away our power. You see two types of behavior toward them either denying that they exist or thinking they are perfect because they aren't our politicians.

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Oh I just wanted to add something about Art Bell he is Catholic and we know how powerful the Vatican is and they are pro ET. So I'm sure the Vatican would say oh these are just other children of god you must accept them without question. Whitley Strieber is also Catholic. It's just interesting how two of the most high profile websites and radio shows that are pro ET are run by Catholics.

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Yeah, if you listen to Art Bell's interview with Malachi Martin, one of the main points that Martin made was that the Catholic Church does NOT believe that ETs are "demons."     

I'd say that's all the more reason to suspect that they are.

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If a demon is a being that rapes, abducts and scares you than yes many ETs could be the demons that mankind has been plagued by.

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I wanted to see if I was beeing too paranoid but you're followng the same train of thought I was.

I don't think we can blame Art for this. He's been strongly opposed for years to "mass consciousness" experiments but suddenly during the interview he asked whether his listeners should ask for ETs to show up, then questioned himself. Over about 15 minutes he was arguing with _himself_ about whether this was a good idea and slowly changed his mind. I think he was influenced. Apparently "they" can do something to make you believe you are freely giving your consent.

When Art asked his guest about abductions he said that the negative ETs have been given their "disposses orders" and we just "have to get over it and move on". Sure.

I don't think influencing someone to give consent is always bad. Think of a doctor saying "The MRI has found a brain anurisym, we need to operate right away. Do we have your consent?" But I don't think Art knew he was being influenced and _that_ makes me question the motives of the ETs.

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.

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morningsun wrote:

Yeah, if you listen to Art Bell's interview with Malachi Martin, one of the main points that Martin made was that the Catholic Church does NOT believe that ETs are "demons."     

I'd say that's all the more reason to suspect that they are.

In a way that could be telling the truth without saying the truth. For instance, what if these aliens really aren't technically demons -- they're just possessed by them, or working for them? There was some interesting discussion in the Ra Material about 5D service-to-self entities versus 4D ones, that the first were dark overlords who operate in mental and magical ways, while the latter (Orion Crusaders) were ultimately their henchmen who, in being partly physical, were more reliant on technology.

The Allies of Humanity material explained how cosmic politics and metaphysical laws prevent the negative aliens from just taking over, that they require our collective consent to safeguard their intervention in our global destiny. Part of the exopolitics movement is  setting the groundwork for this. The problem is that exopolitics has developed no criteria on distinguishing genuinely positive aliens from those who only pretend to be positive, nevermind think they are acting in a positive way but not in a way that maximizes freewill of all in the long term. There is just too much wishful thinking and naivete among both the mainstream fringe and the majority of credentialed "opinion leaders" leading the mainstream fringe movement. C2C is part of this.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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starling wrote:

I don't think influencing someone to give consent is always bad. Think of a doctor saying "The MRI has found a brain anurisym, we need to operate right away. Do we have your consent?"

That's right.

starling wrote:

But I don't think Art knew he was being influenced and _that_ makes me question the motives of the ETs.

Yes, I'm saying that if they're using scientifically-formulated methods, in order to maximize the chances that they will be able to successfully manipulate you into giving consent, then that should raise a lot of red flags.    Noam Chomsky (who I am not recommending or promoting, just mentioning since it is relevant) even wrote a book on this very premise titled "Manufacturing Consent."

Montalk wrote:

There is just too much wishful thinking and naivete among both the mainstream fringe and the majority of credentialed "opinion leaders" leading the mainstream fringe movement. C2C is part of this.

Yes, this whole "wishful thinking" problem (which the C's identified as one of the essential characteristics of the STS path) seems to be an issue for a lot of people I encounter.    This is not to say that people suffering from this issue are all STS, of course, a lot are probably still neutral but in danger of getting caught up in that system. 

As far as C2C goes, I tend to agree.   I don't listen to the show a whole heck of a lot, but I've heard enough shows to form a fairly good impression of the hosts.   Art Bell is bad news in a very overt and obvious way.   George Noory comes across to me as being a lot more balanced, though probably having to watch what he says for political reasons.    But I also get the impression that he is under serious ET influence as well.   

The fact that he's the host of such a major show, and has just now come out with a book called Worker in the Light is a major hint.    If you recall from Karla Turner's Masquerade of Angels, Ted Rice was TOLD by the aliens that he WOULD write a book, and that the title would be "The Light Worker."  Well, Ted never ended up doing that.   So maybe since Ted wasn't getting with the ET program the way he was supposed to, maybe they had to find another human spokesperson and that ended up being George Noory.    Again this is all just speculation, but it's amazing how well the pieces fit!  So I think this line of thinking is fairly close to the truth.    Edit:  And even if he is under ET influence, that doesn't mean it's negative either.   I know some people whom I view as very positive individuals that have also had a lot of "tinkering" going on with them.

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Speaking of consent, notice how every time Windows has an
"update" you have to sign an End User's Agreement?  So you
can't sue them for screwing up your computer or searching your
hard drive every time they have another "update" for you.
If you don't agree, then they'll screw up your computer anyway.
If you don't want to use virus protection, they'll send one to you
anyway.

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Close Encounters was on the other night and my honey wanted to watch it, but I refused to. I'm tired of all the "invite the greys" programming that started with Spielberg's movie.  My honey watched it with his eyes open about triggers, etc., and it's funny - I came down to get something to eat during the movie and he was eagerly pointed out "The hybrid child! The hybrid child!" And it turns out that the woman that follows Richard Dreyfuss' character along, the one who has a kid, if you look closely at the kid, it is TOTALLY an alien hybrid child!  And there this kid is in the movie for most of it, and I'd totally forgotten that there was that "in your face" stuff going on with that part.

My parents took me to see that movie when I was a little girl, and I had an instant aversion to it. And I haven't watched it since. I remember it being long and infinitely boring, with everything emotionally triggering the audience to be all excited and thrilled when the aliens finally show up at the end, and then the aliens are there for about five seconds and they basically grab Richard Dreyfuss and take him on the ship with no explanation, and all the while he's in this tranced out, passive state. What? 

So....think of how many kids like me saw that at an impressionable age and started subconsciously, from that point forward, giving out "permission" for the greys to come and take us away. I truly think that's part of why I was targeted, because of that movie's programming and how I absorbed it. If you'll remember, at that point in the late 70's the only other alien type movies out were the Star Wars movies, and those were more light entertainment with all kinds of stuff going on. They didn't just center around preparing the viewer to "receive" this one particular type of alien contact. For me, those movies were more about me wishing I had a Wookie to play with. (And Wookie/Sasquatches are GOOD beings, in my opinion! smile

Anyway, so how many millions of people were giving their implied consent by seeing Close Encounters over the years and sending out the telepathic message that we welcome the greys.....then in 1986 or so you had the Strieber/Communion books, which were so royally f*%&ed up because there he is, going on about his horrible night terrors and being the recipient of anal probes, and at the same time throughout it he's writing this half-hearted stuff about, "But this contact with them is good, it is forcing me to confront my fears.....yada yada."

What's up with that?  If you're afraid of some critters because they are messing around with you, I'd say that fear is a USEFUL thing. And the very last thing you should be doing is overcoming your fears.  They are there are a survival mechanism kicking in. 

And then so much of the New Age in the 80''s and 90's became all about "confronting your fears."  Bull patooties.  Never, in all my communications with entities of many shapes and forms, have I felt fear around the "good" guys.  Angels, power animals, spiritual helpers, friendly ET's and dimensional travelers all carry an unmistakable energy of LOVE  because they have functional heart chakras. The greys don't.  (At least the ones on many timelines - I think there may be some good ones along certain timelines; unfortunately, it's mostly the baddies who show up here.) 

So when a grey is around, you will have a full body visceral aversion, a cellular fear that kicks in.  And that means you need to DO something. Fight back. Get out a sharp knife and pierce their rubbery skin. Send them packing. They turn out to be pretty much nervous nellies if you stand up to them and they prefer to sneak around behind your back because physically and emotionally they're rather frail, it turns out. So kick their butts!

Anyway, I just think it sucks how we've had thirty years of "let's invite the greys" heavy duty programming thanks to Close Encounters and its spinoffs.  We need to REVOKE that implied consent on behalf of all of humanity, because believe me, those critters do NOT have humanity's best interests at heart.

End rant!

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

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^^^  God, for years that was seriously one of my favorite movies.  Still kind of is, disinformation aside. I just think it was well done and cool.  !   oh well.  haha

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Tee--hee!  That's okay, Lyra! You're allowed to like it! smile  Most people I know love that movie.

I personally liked Contact, which had some similar themes, without an actual appearance of the greys.  But it still sort of set people up for implied consent of just ANY alien/outer space encounter.

LM