Topic: Magic as a defense weapon?

Hi all,

You may have read my conspiracy post before.  Basically, I have been harassed since 2005 by unseen forces and also some "foot soldiers" who are actually tangible - though I seemed to have moved away from the people who were clearly consciously harassing me (i.e. secret police groups/chains/hierarchies).  The harassment has died down considerably since 2006, when I became a more "productive member of society" by my own accord and not through force.  I still get these awful "tracking" chirps (satellite maybe) though when i'm moving around, and I get the occasional sound pop in my ears - and people still aggressively clear their throats and cough incessantly in my presence - angrily.  The coughs/throat clearing doesn't really bother me much lately - these things happen through people who are unaware - it's just bluffing/dick waving/caveman chest beating.  I just wish they'd stop DISTRACTING me. 

I was just talking to my mother on the phone, walking around in a circle, due to bad reception in the apt and a need to just move around (we're off from work today - ice).  These chirps became so prevalent as I moved around that I missed most of what my mother was telling me.  My concentration is poor enough (not to mention my memory - primary reasons that I'm targeted) - I don't need these distractions.  I don't play a victim, I'm a human with perseverance and I'm a lot better off now than I was when this began. I'm wondering why this harassment hasn't gone away completely and it's forcing me to take action in any way that I can.  I'm sick of it and have decided to take occult measures against it.  I wanted to know if anyone else has used magic to help rid them of this torture, this psychological harassment?  It's not a question of whether magic is real or not - I know it is from first-hand experience.  I've just never tried a spell that inflicted intense suffering on the ones who hurt me, by deflection/reflection of bad vibes.  Is this wise, even if it is self-defense?  I'm new to spells and I only use them liberally.  Please share your experiences, if you have any.  Thanks!

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I'm sick of it and have decided to take occult measures against it.  I wanted to know if anyone else has used magic to help rid them of this torture, this psychological harassment?  It's not a question of whether magic is real or not - I know it is from first-hand experience.  I've just never tried a spell that inflicted intense suffering on the ones who hurt me, by deflection/reflection of bad vibes.  Is this wise, even if it is self-defense?  I'm new to spells and I only use them liberally.

Dear Madsketcher,
My advice: Don't do it! Any type of magic that seeks to punish or inflict suffereing on others is basically black magic, which will always backfire on you. It attracts other occult forces, dark entities and beings who will seek to control you. Once you see that magic can and does work, people get-off on being able to bend reality. Thing is, that the entities and dark forces using them are really what is bending reality and then feeding off of the ensuing chaos and extreme emotions.

Better is use focused will and energy to cut off all lines of communication from attackers and also to put protections in place using the higher spiritual realms who will assist if asked because they are willing to help but not to invade free will. When you practive magic to fight dark entities you open up a line of communication with them that is two way, and that keeps you enmeshed in fighting them. I believe that what you really want to do is close the door-?

One thing that you can say is: "In the name of (All that is good, Beings of 100% Light, Christ Consciousness, the Most High, whatever you use to invoke good in your mind) break, sever, dissolve and destroy every line of remote viewing, energy drain, energy supply, remote influencing, black magic, radionics (electronic withcraft), mind control attack, waveform attack, control or surveillance that the enemy/attacker is sending against me." Close every door that was open to them and annihilate and dissolve every implant, hook or device that they put into me. Beam of Source (Light of Christ, whatever) NET, CLEAR and REMOVE.

This is my suggestion, but from experience I got into psychic warfare with someone who was attacking me and almost lost my mind because of it - better to clear it out of your own field than to continue the dynamic.-lala

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From the Quantum Touch forum:
(If you're not familiar with the basic QT "sweep and breathe" technique, it means feel a touch running from your feet to the top of you head while you breathe in deeply, then down your arms to your hands while you breathe out.)
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Hi,
I would like to use QT on myself to help me stay calm and focused during disagreements. Not sure where to run the energy. Any suggestions?

A good place is to put your hands over the Solar plexus area - below your chest and imagine a glowing yellow sun there. Breathe deeply sweep and send energy into the sun and make it glow. You will soon feel a warmth permeating the area and relaxing your whole body. I teach this to many of my clients especially the stressed ones and many have found it helpful.
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See if this helps with negative stuff.

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.

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I think magic is not the hocus pocus of spells, 'powerful' as they may be.  For all the reasons lala raised above. 

Real magic is knowing yourself.  Who are you really.  Are you a victim, at anyones or anythings mercy?  Or are you an infinite sovereign being that takes no crap, in the nicest possible way (and frankly its not always possible, nor necessary).  Do what is called for in the moment.  As it presents itself.  Take the obvious action.  Tell the interlopers whoever they may or may not be, to kindly go away, in whatever tone seems relevant to you at the time. And check out Lipstick Mystics great posts on psychic protection.  And what lala said.

You've been around here awhile, yeah?  Have you tried any of this stuff?  'They' are only trying to distract yourself from yourself, cos as soon as you know who you are in your heart 'They' will cease to exist.

That's my experience.  Good Luck. smile

When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. Jimi Hendrix 

5 (edited by lyra 2007-02-15 06:07:43)

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madsketcher wrote:

It's not a question of whether magic is real or not - I know it is from first-hand experience.  I've just never tried a spell that inflicted intense suffering on the ones who hurt me, by deflection/reflection of bad vibes.  Is this wise, even if it is self-defense?  I'm new to spells and I only use them liberally.  Please share your experiences, if you have any.  Thanks!

What you're not considering is the after effects and the ties that black magic will create.  The spell may have been casted, and you may be on your merry way in life, thinking it's over, but it won't be.  You've now created this weird sort of "karmic tie" with your target, and maybe having even entered into some sort of "contract" with neg entities in exchange for their retalitary help they can provide for you on your behalf.  And they *will* hold you to that contract, and it won't end when you die.  They'll just keep chasing you around from one lifetime to the next until you "pay up," so to speak.  And not only that, but you will have officially entered into the "Thems" game...on their level.   Ever hear of the phrase "You get in the mud, you roll around with pigs" ?    or "Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas" ?  Yeah, well, think of that.   So once you do, it's like getting tangled up in fly paper.   You've created a nice little mess that now becomes this back and forth, back and forth sort of war that won't end.  You send something nasty their way....they retaliate.  You send more....they return more, even worse than before.  And so on. 

The trick is to remove yourself entirely from their grasp, give 'em the slip.  It's not about lowering yourself to their level and getting karmically mixed up and feeding into their games, rolling around in the mud with the pigs.  It's about remembering who you are....and that you have more power than them.  Change your frequency, slip out of their grasp.  I've talked about this on another thread with regards to something else, but it's like becoming the slippery soap they can't grasp onto.  Shift out of their awareness, instead of wallowing in frustration and anger and lashing out in a way that's on their level.  That's exactly what they need to maintain their grasp, if indeed there really are "thems" that are harassing you.   I do have experience with my own harassment, where I learned how to "shift up" and give stuff the slip.....and it worked, which is why I recommend it here.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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I think the following links will help. There is much much useful meditation/magic also on the website that is very useful.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent … ching.html (Detaching negative entities from your aura)
http://www.666blacksun.com/Aura_Cleaning.html (How to clean your aura)
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent … _Soul.html (Freeing the soul)
[Follow the link at the bottom of this page to "Meditation for Protection] http://www.666blacksun.com/Specific_Meditations.html
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent … forms.html (Thoughtforms)

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Magic is a dangerous thing when its user is not purified af all egoistic motives.

I believe, however, that in a near future, already happening, evil groups will deevlop means to harm and enslave others and the masses.

Small groups will have to hide and protect themselves. But it's not STO to counter-attack, it's STS. But you can protect yourself and others from being damaged, using white magic. But magic used for egoistic purpose IS alerady black magic. If pure love is the real motivation of your magical aura of protection, you may be helped by higher forces that may protect those who really deserve it.

Elementals can be turned into good and this is white magic. Making covenants with elementals, whoever, is not pure, not STO.  If one is on the way to become pure STO, he gains a certain aura of protection. But if he uses elemetnal powers to counter-attack, he thus contradicts his STO tendency and regresses into STS.

I think we will have to use some pure white magic to protect ourselves from te black lodges of black magicians seeking to enslaev and attack the few who are on the STO path.

It has already started.

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Druid wrote:

I think we will have to use some pure white magic to protect ourselves from te black lodges of black magicians seeking to enslaev and attack the few who are on the STO path.

What is the deal with all of these howdy-doody, salt-of-the-earth small towns that turn out to be full of black magicians. Is it because they are waking up to 4-D and allowing past life, Atlantean stuff to come in on the unconscious? Do certain areas attract a concentration of people with occult tendancies and then create a dark vortex or such? What happens when the vortex hits critical mass with the black magic vibe-I don't even know if there is such phenomena, I'm just curious, people seem to know a lot about it, like Lyra, Druid and Lipstick M.  Can a person be a black magician and not know it consciously, or is this letting them off the hook, so to speak? There is nothing wierder than to run into someone in public knowing that they have cursed you to die or tried to enslave you hypnotically and they act like a normal, everyday person. Post-modern black magic is mind boggling because it is so "just folks."-lala

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There are many levels of black magic.

From the ceremonial practices available to all to the highest levels of black magic(k), there are many levels.

Governments and people in reunions invoque the Devil himself when they celebrate this materialistic mass of Kapital, whether it is commie or capitalistic. But this invocation of the Devil by materialistically-minded people is not conscious.

Some OTO members, not to name other groups, are on a highway to hell.

On relatively higher levels, there were people like Hubbard and Parson who had ties with intelligence and magickal groups. They invoqued beings, and one day a so-called 'venusian' (Tall blond) came to them. Crowley did invoke a gray being. Yet his legacy is more of a reptile nature. This is to show that some ufos and aliens are invoqued by black magicians.

There are some towns that are pretty weird, especially in USA. TYhe American continent has some special satanic vibes. It comes from the geographical forces themselves, but naturally, it is exponentially-powerful when people apply their conscious power in tapping into this satanic etheric-geography. Rennes-Le-Chateau and perverted sacred geography is one across-atlantic example.

As for the black lodges themselves, I don't have a lot of info on them, because they manage to keep their activity a secret. They are not amateurs, they do no leave traces of their activity. They have a special covenant with what Cs call 4DSTS. Some of these 4DSTS are humanoids, some aren't. I think aliens are mostly tools for higher black magic supermen (above the human physical condition).

One of their main tool now is zionism, but this is too public to be the real 'ultimate truth'. It hides something darker. It is conceived by antisemites and is meant to provoque antisemitism. This is only the tip of the iceberg and only one temporal manifestation of evil. Zionism is not the monoconspiracy, that's for sure.
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Maybe that's part of the change the world is going through. Occult and "magick" teachings are easily available; no more mysteries or hidden knowledge. So "just folks" try them and wow! it works. And it's so easy to go down the path of the shadow...

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.

11 (edited by lyra 2007-02-15 20:14:35)

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lala wrote:

What is the deal with all of these howdy-doody, salt-of-the-earth small towns that turn out to be full of black magicians..... Do certain areas attract a concentration of people with occult tendancies and then create a dark vortex or such? What happens when the vortex hits critical mass with the black magic vibe-

That's so funny that you mention it.....today I was thinking about how the prison, I mean, small town I lived in for nine years in eastern Connecticut, wink had a HUGE occult problem going on.   It was so bad that it made the "USA Weekend" publication back in 1990.  The town was covered "anonymously" in the story, detailing a small town in eastern Connecticut, but the giveaway was that they referred to "Officer Holmes" as being one of the investigative cops that was involved.  Well, Officer Holmes lived in my neighborhood.  wink  So, it was obvious.  But yeah, the focus of that USA Weekend article was about how these kids who lived in my town had reported that their teenage babysitter was involved in satanic/occult stuff, and had dragged these kids to a cemetery where they were forced to watch this group of teens dig up a coffin.  The teens got the coffin open and then made the kids lie in it with the body.  Among other stuff.   My desk in 9th grade Algebra class had an upside down cross carved into it by who knows who before me, and it was known that down in the empty building by the Providence and Worcester rail tracks stray cats and small animals were being sacrificed in rituals.   And that's just some stuff off the top of my head.  In fact recently we were out for a walk where we live here in Charlottesville, and we got to the point where the local Rivanna hiking trail opens onto this road, and we saw some people exiting the woods onto the road.  And I had to laugh.  I noted that back in Connecticut, if you see people creeping around in the woods or exiting the woods like that then chances are, they're there for occult ritual stuff.  But here in Charlottesville it's just joggers and hikers.  big_smile  I hadn't even thought about it all in years until seeing those joggers emerge from the woods, then it all just came back and I made that realization/connection.

As far as that sort of thing creating a "vortex" I think definitely so.  In fact, NR poster "Seeker" wrote a small piece for the NR front page about standing vibes of areas, which relates to this concept.  It's seems to be very true.  The vibes that a region was founded on create the foundation for which everything that comes after will fall in line with, so it seems.  And the area where I lived in CT wasn't founded on pleasant vibes.  It was founded on wars with the local Indian tribes and desecration of them and their land.   The woods that surrounded my neighborhood was part of the larger Pachaug State Forest.....and these woods actually made it onto Rense.com as being super haunted supposedly, riddled with Indian burial grounds and rife with "issues." You can go to Rense and do a search using the search function for "Pachaug State Forest" and pull up the article.   My dad went hiking one time in another part of the same large expanse of PSF with a buddy from work and stumbled onto an Indian burial ground.  They were all over supposedly.  Personally, I never experienced problems with the woods where we lived.  I spent a lot of time in them and enjoyed it.  But others in that area apparently have stories of a very different nature, so, who knows. 

ANYway, it's all slightly off topic, but I just had to pipe up after reading your comments. 

lala wrote:

Can a person be a black magician and not know it consciously, or is this letting them off the hook, so to speak? There is nothing wierder than to run into someone in public knowing that they have cursed you to die or tried to enslave you hypnotically and they act like a normal, everyday person. Post-modern black magic is mind boggling because it is so "just folks."-lala

I think some people have very strong natural psychic abilities, and this gives them the inadvertent power to "make stuff happen."  Which means if they're not careful about their thoughts, then stuff will occur of a negative nature.  So yes, I do think a person can at least be an *inadvertent* black magician and not even know it.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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If you want to do magic than do protection spells you don't need to go to their level. When I was into Wicca that's all I did.

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STO is incompatible with 'magic spells'.

Except, for example, creating, singing, dancing and acting a poem (in Imagination if not in action) with your all your heart, in a pure and sincere STO situation. In short, Love.

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Lyra,
I've had similar experience in a small, quaint town where the teens are going to the graveyard and calling up demons (and it worked), exhibiting strange occult powers, getting imps and so forth to create "mischief" that then turns into bad, bad stuff, Every housewife practicing wicca or Thelemic magic etc., etc. The town was named one of the top places in the US to raise a family last year. (Seems like also old mining towns and towns with a history of pre-Cival War slavery are also tops in the weirdness parade.) A lot of the "alternative" people (hippie-ish, liberal-ish) have a glazed-over, zombie kind of look in this town, makes me think of old movies like Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Starling is right, everyone's working the occult, we live in an occult society now (includes Christianity), maybe we always have, it's just that it is more out in the open now. !-lala

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Post-modern black magic is mind boggling because it is so "just folks."-lala

I love the way you see things, lala. 

I lived for three years in a v small town not far from here that appears on the surface as quaint and interesting and artistic and alternative.  BUT.  Nasty things happened to good people, eventually.  And weird synchros and just lots of weird stuff.  From all sides, you just couldn't pick em.  To begin with anyway.  My brother, who was in the same town for much longer than me and had an even more intense experience there says that : "You can always count on the rednecks to be rednecks, but the hippies can turn at any moment".  He also theorises that the bad crop of mushies that went around in '83 explains everything. lol

Seriously, it is also an area that has a long history (like the whole country, like 40,000 years in mainstream history books) with the indigenous people, which includes in relatively more recent times the massacres and regular slaughter of same in some of their most sacred and meaningful places.  The sort of genetic sense of history that 'we' of european descent can only remember in myth.  To those that lived in Australia and other places without european disturbance for so long, that history is unbroken law.  So, the vibe of utter betrayal of the human spirit is present always, even under the quaint and peaceful facade.

The point of all this, is that the energy you seek to create, and the intention with which you create them, will hang around, they will be real.  Think about what you really are wanting to deal with on a day to day basis.  Ditch the bastards.  And start something that is yours.  No spells required.  Come out from under the spell.  It is a nothing.  Look the other way.  Have a nice day. 

Be free, if you want.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. Jimi Hendrix